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800 MHz Transition Administrator (in charge of the consensus plan with nextel)

nextel18

Apr 21, 2005, 6:52 PM
http://www.800ta.org/index.htm »

some good info..

http://www.800ta.org/faq.htm »

wave 1 would start on june 27th
wave 2 starts on oct 3
wave 3 starts on jan 3 2006
wave 4 april 3 2006.



and this is good too

http://www.ita-relay.com/800_MHz/The_Process.html »


Beginning June 27, 2005, voluntary negotiations will commence between Nextel and incumbent licensees currently utilizing channels 1-120 (851 – 854 MHz) in Wave 1 regions. The outline below provides additional detail concerning the reconfiguration process that will unfold.

Nextel shuts down operations on its former General Category channels (851-854.75 MHz) and temporarily shifts its operations to its other spectrum holdings, likely 900 MHz, for the given Region.
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nextel18

Apr 21, 2005, 7:15 PM
i am going to add some more information...

this process is supposed to take about 3 years. from negotations to completion.

some more information about those waves...

go to ... http://www.800ta.org/pdfs/RPPMod.pdf slide 5

whoever is in wave 1 you are in,

6 – Northern California 27 – Nevada
7 – Colorado 28 – Eastern Pennsylvania (east of Harrisburg, southern NJ & DE)
8 – Metropolitan, NYC Area (NY, NJ, CT) 35 – Oregon
11 – Hawaii 41 – Utah
13 – Illinois (except Southern Lake Michigan counties) 42 – Virginia
14 – Indiana (except Southern Lake Michigan counties) 45 – Wisconsin (except Southern Lake Michigan counties)
Wave 1
19 – New England
20 – District of Columbia, Maryland, Northern VA
54 – Southern Lake Michigan (Gre...
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nextel18

Apr 21, 2005, 7:48 PM
some more information about each wave is this;

wave 1= 38 percent people covered, 55 percent interference complaints, 31 percent workload
wave 2= 22 percent people covered, 4 percent complaints, 19 percent workload.
wave 3= 15 percent people covered, 10 percent complaints, 25 percent workload.
wave 4= 25 percent people covered, 31 percent complaints, 25 percent workload.
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just some interesting information.
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maverick96

Apr 22, 2005, 9:14 AM
Hi nextel18 I have a question. I live in Chicago does that wave one affect me? Also will this wave one improve signal and reception quality here in Chicago? I have noticed that signal strength has improved a little from where it was a year ago, are they just adding more towers here? Your info is much appreciated!!
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MarkF

Apr 22, 2005, 2:30 PM
Chicago is in wave one as is NY and the west coast. There is no telling what outages or call blocking will occur as this is way in its infancy, although I'm sure NEXTEL will do whatever it can to keep its customers happy.

One thing you do want to make sure is that you have a 3digit phone. I posted this information a few weeks ago that spells out what happens to the different phones in the upcoming years:


https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Rebanding and Phone Update/Replacement Requirements

by MarkF Apr 12, 2005, 7:22 PM



Here is a website that offers the requirements of the NEXTEL/SoLinc iDEN phones:

http://www.southernlinc.com/pdfs/RebandingPhoneDecis ... » ...

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MarkF

Apr 22, 2005, 6:11 PM
The SouthernLinc got broken. I'll try it again

http://www.southernlinc.com/pdfs/RebandingPhoneDecis ... »

Mark
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 1:53 PM
no reason to read what SL says. i am going to read what the TA says and what the fcc says.
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nextel18

Apr 22, 2005, 3:28 PM
hey good questions. yea, you are in wave 1 that should/could effect you.

there is no way that it will help signal quality and reception in your area, however, after the merger and this is complete, i belive so. the 6:1 voice coder will be on the network and then there will be "cleaner" air instead of interference, which hurts signals.

nextel tries to rapidly roll out cell sites year by year. there plan is to do 3k for this year and 3k for next year. the merger will help too. they always add towers nationwide.

i would say just be patient. we are doing everything we can to help customers have a smooth process.

i am thinking that there could be some problems, but our CTO who is the best in the land will make sure and plan acco...
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maverick96

Apr 22, 2005, 10:55 PM
Thank you guys for your info. it was much appreciated! So from the way it sounds this rebanding will only move to a different frequency but will not improve reception, it's too bad
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MarkF

Apr 23, 2005, 4:40 AM
maverick96 said:
Thank you guys for your info. it was much appreciated! So from the way it sounds this rebanding will only move to a different frequency but will not improve reception, it's too bad


Sure no problem....but one thing that re-banding does give is 1.9GHz at the conclusion of the project. This will allow NEXTEL to deploy 3G technologies and they will be able to construct a nationwide system with data speeds and capacity comparable to the competitors.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 2:02 PM
mark he didnt ask about the 1.9ghz, and right now that 1.9ghz is only going to be used for data not voice. (again it depends on the merger etc..)
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MarkF

Apr 24, 2005, 5:05 AM
Like you always say....I didn't respond to you so mind your own business.
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nextel18

Apr 24, 2005, 5:22 AM
he actually really didnt ask you anything becuase it was posted to me, so i can say the same thing to YOU.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 2:00 PM
"So from the way it sounds this rebanding will only move to a different frequency but will not improve reception, it's too bad"

no. i didnt say that. typically when you get rid of interference it helps improve signal quality becuase you wont get into "dirty" air. you are in "cleaner" air. just like in nascar racing. (hope that analogy helps)

the only way to increase reception is to make more towers and to have a lot of people getting the 3 digit phones that have the 6:1 on it. (or split 3:1 for us techies)

hope that helps.
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maverick96

Apr 23, 2005, 9:30 PM
Thank you, your info is great but I don't understand what a 3 digit phone is? What are the differences between a 3 digit phone and a regular one? Which nextel phones are 3digit? Thanks again!
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muchdrama

Apr 23, 2005, 10:14 PM
maverick96 said:
Thank you, your info is great but I don't understand what a 3 digit phone is? What are the differences between a 3 digit phone and a regular one? Which nextel phones are 3digit? Thanks again!
A little piece of advice, Mav...if you've got questions you'd be better off asking MarkF, as he's an engineer who works for Nextel, while we don't have any official word as to what Nextel18 is. He's been proven wrong many, many times.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 10:17 PM
3 digit phoens are like the i205, i265, 730, 530 etc... (hence 3 digits) 2 digits are like the 90, 95 etc.. (hence 2 digits.)

the 3 digit phones are a lot better with codeplugs and RF software and they also include the 6:1 voice coder so that enhances the call quality and signal on the network. (or should)
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 2:02 PM
also with the combination of nextel's and sprint's towers and spectrum it could help boost capacity and increase reception.

they are getting 1.9ghz but they arent going to use that for the voice portion. (unless that changes becuase of the merger, but we will see) so far, until 2007-2008 or so they wont be using 1.9ghz for voice.

hope that helps again.
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