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I'm curiuos to see others thoughts, It has been proven tha Iden is the supperior PTT technology, i'm using VZW's Phase two and can't complain, yet I KNOW it isn't as quick initially. I'm wondering when the merger of sextel finally completes and the transition from Iden to Qchat occurs, do you think there will be a larger delay(probably not by much), but seeing how all other PTT clients work over CDMA i'm wondering if the excellent quality of Iden will be a thing of the past eventually?? Sort of how some people say that analog phones by far and away were way better for voice than digital service. But obviously was limited as far as digital features are concerned. Will all PTT subscribers onbe day just have to get used to POC type technolo...
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I LOVE QCHAT!! hahah.
let me try to answer your questions as best that i can and allowed to do.
"I'm wondering when the merger of sextel finally completes and the transition from Iden to Qchat occurs, do you think there will be a larger delay(probably not by much), but seeing how all other PTT clients work over CDMA i'm wondering if the excellent quality of Iden will be a thing of the past eventually?? "
well there will be a gateway first between cdma and the iden network that qualcomm, and motorola have been working on with nextel to develop. there is also qchat which is a very interesting technology. so from now till 2007-2008 there will be a dual phone and the gateway will exist. qchat will be available in the 2007-2008 time f...
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let me try to answer your questions as best that i can and allowed to do.
"I'm wondering when the merger of sextel finally completes and the transition from Iden to Qchat occurs, do you think there will be a larger delay(probably not by much), but seeing how all other PTT clients work over CDMA i'm wondering if the excellent quality of Iden will be a thing of the past eventually?? "
well there will be a gateway first between cdma and the iden network that qualcomm, and motorola have been working on with nextel to develop. there is also qchat which is a very interesting technology. so from now till 2007-2008 there will be a dual phone and the gateway will exist. qchat will be available in the 2007-2008 time f...
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I went to the store the other night and tried the newer VZW ptt and it was good, not Nextel good but it had minimal latency and was a vast inprovement from the first release. Q chat is still in developement and for all we know might never be released, the reason I feel this way is that by having sole custody of it Sextel is going to be charging other carriers to use it and I think we will eventually see PTT that is cross carrier operable like text messaging is today. If one company tried to be greedy and liscense it that might effect them. if other carriers are able to PTT to each other or adopt a PTT capability close to Q chat then Sextel could be alone using PTT while people from the remaining carriers are using PTT to reach each other. ...
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"Q chat is still in developement and for all we know might never be released." it will be released.
"Sextel is going to be charging other carriers to use it and I think we will eventually see PTT "
no they arent.
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we will see. right now its nextel's as soon as the merger is oked its nextel/sprint's. there will be no charging other carriers to use this function. no point of giving up a niche that you have to other customers even if they were to pay you. not a smart thing to do.
"Sextel is going to be charging other carriers to use it and I think we will eventually see PTT "
no they arent.
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we will see. right now its nextel's as soon as the merger is oked its nextel/sprint's. there will be no charging other carriers to use this function. no point of giving up a niche that you have to other customers even if they were to pay you. not a smart thing to do.
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If this is all true why did they pay for exclusive rights to help further develop Q-Chat?
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becuase they wanted no one to have it other than themselves and nextel partners. qchat can not be used by any other provider, but sprint if this merger goes through.
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yea, did you have any questions with what i said to you before? if so please ask. again, since you are a rival (verizon wireless) i cant say some things.
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the term REV is revisions. right now, verizon is doing REV O. nextel/sprint will do REV A.
let me go to the qualcomm page and do some copying and pasting, becuase i dont know how to explain it to you without the technical stuff.. they will tell it better becuase they developed it.
"EV-DO Rel. 0 is a high-performance, cost effective, wide area wireless broadband solution. It offers high data rates, high capacity and lower costs for wireless operators, enabiling them to offer compelling, differentiated data services to consumers and business professionals. EV-DO Rel. 0 provides a combination of superior efficiencies and economic benefits, which are unprecedented in commercial systems capable of mobile, portable and fixed services. E...
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let me go to the qualcomm page and do some copying and pasting, becuase i dont know how to explain it to you without the technical stuff.. they will tell it better becuase they developed it.
"EV-DO Rel. 0 is a high-performance, cost effective, wide area wireless broadband solution. It offers high data rates, high capacity and lower costs for wireless operators, enabiling them to offer compelling, differentiated data services to consumers and business professionals. EV-DO Rel. 0 provides a combination of superior efficiencies and economic benefits, which are unprecedented in commercial systems capable of mobile, portable and fixed services. E...
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Wait a minute here, Sprint will be using Rev O later this year as does VZW. In 2006 VZW will be doing network trials with Rev A through Nortel and Sprintel will be launching Rev A in 2007/2008. I also believe that Q Chat will allow Sprintel some exclusive rights but nowhere have I heard that they will not allow anyone else to use Q chat, if this is true they could be hanging themselves out to dry.
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well it may very well be just like Iden a proprietary technology in this case owned legitamatley by a Nextel18 i greatly appreciate all the info. so is it really the case that VZW will experiment with RevA and that sprint is rolling out revO this year, after all the talk i assumed that Sprint was going straight to RevA, if that it is O first based on history VZW will probably lead the pack and release RevA first.
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"well it may very well be just like Iden a proprietary technology in this case owned legitamatley"
yes it is. for a length of time which i cant say.
you are very welcome.
" so is it really the case that VZW will experiment with RevA and that sprint is rolling out revO this year, after all the talk i assumed that Sprint was going straight to RevA, if that it is O first based on history VZW will probably lead the pack and release RevA first."
they dont have any options to go to REV A like i was explaning to jay. that means they have to pay more, which increases capex to get REV A . sprint already paid for both. yea, sprint will be going from REV O to rev A.
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yes it is. for a length of time which i cant say.
you are very welcome.
" so is it really the case that VZW will experiment with RevA and that sprint is rolling out revO this year, after all the talk i assumed that Sprint was going straight to RevA, if that it is O first based on history VZW will probably lead the pack and release RevA first."
they dont have any options to go to REV A like i was explaning to jay. that means they have to pay more, which increases capex to get REV A . sprint already paid for both. yea, sprint will be going from REV O to rev A.
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Sprint was going to go to EV-DV but the technology wasn't going to be available in time to compete with EV DO Rev O networks plus with the merger of Nextel Sprint no longer needs the spectrum saving ability of EV DV on their network. I'm sure both Verizon and Sprint would love to release EV DO Rev A asap but the technology isn't ready at this point and DO Rev O is the only option for now for both carriers.
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yea, sprint will be using REV O this year, as will verizon.
sprint will be doing rev a in 2007-2008 and there is no intention of verizon doing it becuase 1. they dont have the option too and they didnt pay for the upgrade 2. i dont belive that they are thinking of that yet. trials means nothing especially if you have to pay additional. we will see with that.
" I also believe that Q Chat will allow Sprintel some exclusive rights but nowhere have I heard that they will not allow anyone else to use Q chat, if this is true they could be hanging themselves out to dry."
nextel has exclusive rights in the united states and some international markets and if this merger gets oked then "sprintel" will gain those rights. yea, they will not...
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sprint will be doing rev a in 2007-2008 and there is no intention of verizon doing it becuase 1. they dont have the option too and they didnt pay for the upgrade 2. i dont belive that they are thinking of that yet. trials means nothing especially if you have to pay additional. we will see with that.
" I also believe that Q Chat will allow Sprintel some exclusive rights but nowhere have I heard that they will not allow anyone else to use Q chat, if this is true they could be hanging themselves out to dry."
nextel has exclusive rights in the united states and some international markets and if this merger gets oked then "sprintel" will gain those rights. yea, they will not...
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All current reports lead to the fact thet Verizon will test Rev A in 2006 and it is a software upgrade at the base stations isn't it? The fact is that Rev A is the next step after Rev O and all CDMA carriers will take this migration path unless EV-DV makes a comeback. Rev A is available to any CDMA carriers wishing to use it, the only thing that might be limited is the use of Q-Chat over a Rev A network.
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"All current reports lead to the fact thet Verizon will test Rev A in 2006 and it is a software upgrade at the base stations isn't it?"
what i have been reading that the upgrades was only for REV O, not for REV A.
"The fact is that Rev A is the next step after Rev O and all CDMA carriers will take this migration path unless EV-DV makes a comeback"
very true. ev-dv wont make a comeback especially since my beloved qualcomm has sorta pulled the life support system from it.
"Rev A is available to any CDMA carriers wishing to use it, the only thing that might be limited is the use of Q-Chat over a Rev A network."
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what i have been reading that the upgrades was only for REV O, not for REV A.
"The fact is that Rev A is the next step after Rev O and all CDMA carriers will take this migration path unless EV-DV makes a comeback"
very true. ev-dv wont make a comeback especially since my beloved qualcomm has sorta pulled the life support system from it.
"Rev A is available to any CDMA carriers wishing to use it, the only thing that might be limited is the use of Q-Chat over a Rev A network."
very true. yea, no one who has cdma especially in the usa and as well as in some international markets can use qch...
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Here you go.
CTIA Wireless 2005 In Brief
By Wireless Week Staff
March 15, 2005
news@2 direct
Day 2: The CTIA Wireless 2005 show in New Orleans is in full swing today. Here's a glimpse of what was announced during Tuesday's show.
Nortel unveiled plans for its CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Revision A technology, which supports the delivery of interactive 3D gaming, mobile music, voice over IP and high-speed file transfers. The technology, according to Nortel, also will support virtual real-time interactive access to a host of services, including mobile television, video telephony and push-to-talk. Nortel plans to launch live market trials with Verizon Wireless next year.
Remember that Rev A is a software update away and doesn't ...
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CTIA Wireless 2005 In Brief
By Wireless Week Staff
March 15, 2005
news@2 direct
Day 2: The CTIA Wireless 2005 show in New Orleans is in full swing today. Here's a glimpse of what was announced during Tuesday's show.
Nortel unveiled plans for its CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Revision A technology, which supports the delivery of interactive 3D gaming, mobile music, voice over IP and high-speed file transfers. The technology, according to Nortel, also will support virtual real-time interactive access to a host of services, including mobile television, video telephony and push-to-talk. Nortel plans to launch live market trials with Verizon Wireless next year.
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again, if nortel says that they are going to do market trials it doesnt mean that verizon paid for the upgrade for REV A.
verizon doesnt have an option to go to REV A, or else they wouldnt have even said "market trials".
people have to purchase new chipsets from qualcomm. so that means cost will increase.
this is what i saw; " Nortel said its EV-DO base stations could be upgraded to Rev A through simple modular upgrades, allowing existing hardware and software to be reused. "
again, it still costs.
another one "Sprint's CDMA network: Sprint’s national 1.9GHz/CDMA network would expand through the use of Nextel cell sites and spectrum. The company would also continue its CDMA-EVDO upgrades. Earlier this month, Sprint fina...
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verizon doesnt have an option to go to REV A, or else they wouldnt have even said "market trials".
people have to purchase new chipsets from qualcomm. so that means cost will increase.
this is what i saw; " Nortel said its EV-DO base stations could be upgraded to Rev A through simple modular upgrades, allowing existing hardware and software to be reused. "
again, it still costs.
another one "Sprint's CDMA network: Sprint’s national 1.9GHz/CDMA network would expand through the use of Nextel cell sites and spectrum. The company would also continue its CDMA-EVDO upgrades. Earlier this month, Sprint fina...
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nextel18 said:Yeah, 'cause it's sane to love a technology we haven't seen in action yet. You might want to see Qchat in action before you start making latency claims...remember, you have no idea what latency even means. And as for Verizon and Sprint's PTT solutions...they're becoming viable enough choices now that they've improved their product.
I LOVE QCHAT!! hahah.
qchat has been having a latency of 1.5 seconds. it will have excellent quality.
the recent launches of verizon and sprint's are not even in the same league as qchat. by the way qchat is owned by nextel and no one else.
P.S. Nextel does not "own" Qchat. Nice try, though.
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Qualcomm owns the technology but Nextel paid for the exclusive rights to develop it with qualcomm. Go do your homework and stop attacking people when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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bigdaddyjay said:You just repeated what I said in a different manner. Nextel does not own Qchat.
Qualcomm owns the technology but Nextel paid for the exclusive rights to develop it with qualcomm. Go do your homework and stop attacking people when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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drama, thats pretty much the same thing, owning the rights to be the ones to use the technology. And considering they have been testing it, they would have latency times from there current tests.
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nextel18 said:Where'd you pull this guy out of? Found someone to come on here and back up all your "accurate posts" did you? Nextel was given the rights by Qualcomm to use Qchat in North America. Nextel does not, however, OWN Qchat. Qualcomm does.
yea, thats what i said. oh well.
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so sad, muchdrama, still has to harrass me and still cant go beyond that post becuase much drama only reads one thing at a time instead of the latest. so sad.
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nextel18 said:I just use it as an example of your many erroneous posts. Better report this as defamation.
so sad, muchdrama, still has to harrass me and still cant go beyond that post becuase much drama only reads one thing at a time instead of the latest. so sad.
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Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
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killer2239 said:I understand it perfectly. Qualcomm invented Qchat. They then went to Nextel and said "Hey, we've heard you'll be going with CDMA in the future and might be in need of a great CDMA PTT solution". Nextel said "Hey, that's great! Yes, we do need Qchat!". Qualcomm then gave Nextel the right to use Qchat in North America. They didn't, however, sell the patents to Nextel. Hence, Qualcomm owns Qchat...not Nextel.
Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
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muchdrama said:killer2239 said:I understand it perfectly. Qualcomm invented Qchat. They then went to Nextel and said "Hey, we've heard you'll be going with CDMA in the future and might be in need of a great CDMA PTT solution". Nextel said "Hey, that's great! Yes, we do need Qchat!". Qualcomm then gave Nextel the right to use Qchat in North America. They didn't, however, sell the patents to Nextel. Hence, Qualcomm owns Qchat...not Nextel.
Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
Still pretty much means same thing as for as them being on...
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killer2239 said:...muchdrama said:killer2239 said:I understand it perfectly. Qualcomm invented Qchat. They then went to Nextel and said "Hey, we've heard you'll be going with CDMA in the future and might be in need of a great CDMA PTT solution". Nextel said "Hey, that's great! Yes, we do need Qchat!". Qualcomm then gave Nextel the right to use Qchat in North America. They didn't, however, sell the patents to Nextel. Hence, Qualcomm owns Qchat...not Nextel.
Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
Still pretty much mea
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muchdrama said:...killer2239 said:muchdrama said:killer2239 said:I understand it perfectly. Qualcomm invented Qchat. They then went to Nextel and said "Hey, we've heard you'll be going with CDMA in the future and might be in need of a great CDMA PTT solution". Nextel said "Hey, that's great! Yes, we do need Qchat!". Qualcomm then gave Nextel the right to use Qchat in North America. They didn't, however, sell the patents to Nextel. Hence, Qualcomm owns Qchat...not Nextel.
Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
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you guys are arguing over a technicality, but muchdrama is right. exclusivity rights and owning the patents are VERY different things. it's highly unlikely that something like this would occur, but technically, the company (what was it, quallcom?), could pull the technology from nextel and sell it to verizon or alltel or whomever.
however, since none of us has seen exactly what KIND of exclusivity deal has been struck between the companies, we really have no idea.
now, can we get back to something fun to talk about? like how freaking cool i am?
however, since none of us has seen exactly what KIND of exclusivity deal has been struck between the companies, we really have no idea.
now, can we get back to something fun to talk about? like how freaking cool i am?
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you guys are arguing over a technicality, but muchdrama is right. exclusivity rights and owning the patents are VERY different things. it's highly unlikely that something like this would occur, but technically, the company (what was it, quallcom?), could pull the technology from nextel and sell it to verizon or alltel or whomever.
however, since none of us has seen exactly what KIND of exclusivity deal has been struck between the companies, we really have no idea.
now, can we get back to something fun to talk about? like how freaking cool i am?
Oh, you're cool with me since you're the first damn person to understand what the hell I'm talking about. Nextel has the exclusivity rights to...
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jason, you are very cool.
i know what the deal of qualcomm, nxtl and motorola is, however, i cant say of course.
i know what the deal of qualcomm, nxtl and motorola is, however, i cant say of course.
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nextel18 said:You can't say because you sell Nextel phones at some mall kiosk? Pfft. You can't say because you don't know...and this is after Rich Brome told you EXACTLY how it was broken down. Nextel does not own Qchat.
jason, you are very cool.
i know what the deal of qualcomm, nxtl and motorola is, however, i cant say of course.
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So Rich knows for sure because he runs this site? I thought that Q-Chat was being developed for the EV DO Rev A release yet Rich said it was for the 1xrtt Rev A release from the Verizon Forum Thread,
Re: nextel has exclusive rights to Qchat
by Rich Brome Thursday, 11:04 PM
Qualcomm developed it.
Nextel signed a deal a few years back with Qualcomm for exclusive rights to deploy QChat in the U.S. It's fair to assume they did it just to keep Sprint and Verizon from using it, as much as keeping their own options open. Outside the U.S., other carriers are free to license QChat and use it on their 1xRTT release A networks
Here is what Qualcomm says regarding Q-Chat from the time period that it was released as...
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Re: nextel has exclusive rights to Qchat
by Rich Brome Thursday, 11:04 PM
Qualcomm developed it.
Nextel signed a deal a few years back with Qualcomm for exclusive rights to deploy QChat in the U.S. It's fair to assume they did it just to keep Sprint and Verizon from using it, as much as keeping their own options open. Outside the U.S., other carriers are free to license QChat and use it on their 1xRTT release A networks
Here is what Qualcomm says regarding Q-Chat from the time period that it was released as...
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So Rich knows for sure because he runs this site? I thought that Q-Chat was being developed for the EV DO Rev A release yet Rich said it was for the 1xrtt Rev A release from the Verizon Forum Thread,
Re: nextel has exclusive rights to Qchat
by Rich Brome Thursday, 11:04 PM
Qualcomm developed it.
Nextel signed a deal a few years back with Qualcomm for exclusive rights to deploy QChat in the U.S. It's fair to assume they did it just to keep Sprint and Verizon from using it, as much as keeping their own options open. Outside the U.S., other carriers are free to license QChat and use it on their 1xRTT release A networks
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Here is the point, Rich could have made a mistake or what he wrote could be correct but you take Rich's word and tell everyone else they are wrong. What I am saying is that you are a lazy troller that falls back on whatever Rich says and you are too lazy to go the other sites and research what you are saying. i respect Rich and think it's awesome that we have this site but Rich isn't God and he could have made a mistake here or there. While I agree that Nextel doesn't Own Q-Chat I do understand that they have exclusive rights to it in North America which means they hold the technology in their hands andnobody else gets it unless they allow it. As far as live and learn, well now that is an ironic statement comming from someone that never ...
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yea, jay. i said that indirectly nextel owns qchat, becuase no one can use it. i obviously know that nextel doesnt own qchat directly, becuase qualcomm, the great company, does.
oh well. that is what i ment by ownership.
exclusive rights= no one can use it but you= ownership.
oh well. that is what i ment by ownership.
exclusive rights= no one can use it but you= ownership.
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At least you aren't a Rich Brome groupie! Muchdrama believes everything Rich says. Rich could say that there was a phone comming out from Qualcomm that used recycled dog crap in the plastic and Muchdrama would rum around telling everyone until it turned out to be an April Fools joke!!! I have nothing but Respect for Rich but I am scared that Muchdram could start an internet cult following for him and we all know where that leads. been to the Alltel forum today???
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yea, i agree with your assessments. even the gurus can make mistakes.
no i havnt been on the alltel board yet, although i heard about their DO launch.
no i havnt been on the alltel board yet, although i heard about their DO launch.
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bigdaddyjay said:Now you're just talking rubbish. I don't know Rich. But I do know that I'll take what he writes over what you and your buddy write any day of the week. Ask yourself...how does someone who works for Nextel not know that his compan...
At least you aren't a Rich Brome groupie! Muchdrama believes everything Rich says. Rich could say that there was a phone comming out from Qualcomm that used recycled dog crap in the plastic and Muchdrama would rum around telling everyone until it turned out to be an April Fools joke!!! I have nothing but Respect for Rich but I am scared that Muchdram could start an internet cult following for him and we all know where that leads. been to the Alltel forum today???
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Why can't you get your lazy rear end out of this forum and whay don't you research companies and products? Food for thought.
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bigdaddyjay said:I already told you...I remember reading about Qualcomm's ownership and development of Qchat on RCRWireless.com.
Why can't you get your lazy rear end out of this forum and whay don't you research companies and products? Food for thought.
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Here is the point, Rich could have made a mistake or what he wrote could be correct but you take Rich's word and tell everyone else they are wrong. What I am saying is that you are a lazy troller that falls back on whatever Rich says and you are too lazy to go the other sites and research what you are saying. i respect Rich and think it's awesome that we have this site but Rich isn't God and he could have made a mistake here or there. While I agree that Nextel doesn't Own Q-Chat I do understand that they have exclusive rights to it in North America which means they hold the technology in their hands andnobody else gets it unless they allow it. As far as live and learn, well now that is an ironic stat
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bigdaddyjay said:
Ummm because Rich told you so in the Verizon forum.
I actually read it in the RCRWireless site quite a while ago. Does that count at research?
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Sounds like a cop out to me, falling on the old read it in RCRNews bit huh?
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bigdaddyjay said:I said that because I used to frequent that website pretty dang often. No lie. Honest injun. Just out of curiosity, Jay...but what do you see in Nextel? Or are you just protecting the little people? You, of all people, have got to notice that just about 90% of what comes out of his gullet is wrong. The other 10% is literally copy and pasted quotes from any website he can find...whether it pertains to the topic or not.
Sounds like a cop out to me, falling on the old read it in RCRNews bit huh?
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He proved me wrong once regarding Q-Chat so I settled down on blasting him. He has never done anything to offend me so I stay peaceful with him and agree to disagree and try to agree from time to time. Nobody is as bad as Kingfrog who I proclaim forum enemy number 1.
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bigdaddyjay said:Nextel is my Khan. Khannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!
He proved me wrong once regarding Q-Chat so I settled down on blasting him. He has never done anything to offend me so I stay peaceful with him and agree to disagree and try to agree from time to time. Nobody is as bad as Kingfrog who I proclaim forum enemy number 1.
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nextel18 said:You cannot own something if somebody else owns the patents.
that is what i was hinting at and said many many times.
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that is not what i am saying.. i am saying that they own the rights to the product which in essence they own that product. its not directly, but it is indirectly.
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nextel18 said:They don't OWN any rights. They essentially LEASE the rights to the product from Qualcomm. Qualcomm owns the rights to the patents.
that is not what i am saying.. i am saying that they own the rights to the product which in essence they own that product. its not directly, but it is indirectly.
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nextel18 said:Yes. Nextel owns exclusive rights to Qchat. No one but Nextel and Sprint will be able to use Qchat unless Qualcomm, the OWNER, says so.
they own exclusive rights to the product.
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killer2239 said:...muchdrama said:killer2239 said:muchdrama said:killer2239 said:I understand it perfectly. Qualcomm invented Qchat. They then went to Nextel and said "Hey, we've heard you'll be going with CDMA in the future and might be in need of a great CDMA PTT solution". Nextel said "Hey, that's great! Yes, we do need Qchat!". Qualcomm then gave Nextel the right to use Qchat in North America. They didn't, however, sell the patents to Nextel. Hence
Wow. im glad you can tell the company that came up with QChat, go figure both starting with a Q. Again, you obviously dont understand owning the rights to be the ones to use it is.
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I think we have established that, how many times you gonna say that? Are you a broken record? Qualcomm created it and owns it, however nextel is only company allowed to use it, thats what we are saying. So what if say it as nextel owns it? Not like any other companies can use it, so whats it matter? And dont give me the bullshit of well technically qualcomm owns it, cause weve heard you say it a thousand times already.
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its over their heads. its like a broken record that keeps repeating and repeating and repeating etc... they just cant lay off of it.
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nextel18 said:No, I'll just tell you and yours you're wrong every time you say something inaccurate. Pretty simple, eh?
its over their heads. its like a broken record that keeps repeating and repeating and repeating etc... they just cant lay off of it.
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Oh how you love to follow him around the forum, are you secretly in love with Nextel18?
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nextel18 said:Right. We've been posting in the Verizon and Cingular forums since 2003...but we're following you around. Right.
muchdrama loves to follow me and harass me and same with SF.
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bigdaddyjay said:I wouldn't necessarily call the emotion I feel for Nextel love.
He is in love with you!!!!
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bigdaddyjay said:Yes. God does say "Thou shalt not kill".
Whatever it is it's just wrong 😉
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bigdaddyjay said:Consider me like Batman...I follow criminals around the forum (the crimes of bad grammar, spelling, erroneous posts, etc...).
Oh how you love to follow him around the forum, are you secretly in love with Nextel18?
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nextel18 said:I do contribute. I correct you every day. And that's hard work.
i am never wrong, sorry. dude, contribute for once.
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contribute. you dont. correct me everyday? wow you must have no life. atleast post some news or do some analysis or something.
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nextel18 said:Okay. Here's an analysis: Cingular will make up the $41 billion it spent for ATTWS faster than 77 years. How's that? And I even stated this fact in a forum that doesn't have anything to do with the subject matter just the way you like it. Ta.
contribute. you dont. correct me everyday? wow you must have no life. atleast post some news or do some analysis or something.
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"Ta"? whats that? never heard that before. by the way 20 years or 77 years in the wireless world they are both eternities. i also mentioned earlier, since you like to read posts, or dont, i said that it could take a few decades to see a profit back.. by the way if you dont add their 50 million subs it is that long...
by the way do you ever get off of that subject or are you still stuck? do you want a push?
by the way do you ever get off of that subject or are you still stuck? do you want a push?
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killer2239 said:I could care less what you "think" about ownership of Qchat. Nextel could be the only carrier on earth allowed to use the PTT protocol...but it ain't the same thing as owning the patents. Nextel doees not, in any damn way, shape, or form, own Qchat. Period.
I think we have established that, how many times you gonna say that? Are you a broken record? Qualcomm created it and owns it, however nextel is only company allowed to use it, thats what we are saying. So what if say it as nextel owns it? Not like any other companies can use it, so whats it matter? And dont give me the bull**** of well technically qualcomm owns it, cause weve heard you say it a thousand times already.
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I own my car. If I let muchdrama borrow it for the weekend, he doesn't own my car, does he? Or does it still belong to the dealership where I bought it?
See our point? Use, even exclusively, does not denote ownership.
See our point? Use, even exclusively, does not denote ownership.
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Okay, let's run with that analogy. You say you OWN your car. Do you? Do you owe the bank/finance company a single dollar on that car? If so then you don't really own that car. But I bet everyone who has financed a car would casually say they OWN it even while they are still making payments.
Same thing here, someone (I guess nextel-1😎 casually said Nextel OWNs QChat, when the reality is that they have exclusive rights to it. Fact is, nobody but the wireless geeks know who Qualcomm is, the public will think Nextel owns QChat, just like they think Nextel owns iDen, because Nextel will be the only place they can buy it. In the big picture, who cares? Will it be a good product for the public is the only thing that matters, so there.
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Same thing here, someone (I guess nextel-1😎 casually said Nextel OWNs QChat, when the reality is that they have exclusive rights to it. Fact is, nobody but the wireless geeks know who Qualcomm is, the public will think Nextel owns QChat, just like they think Nextel owns iDen, because Nextel will be the only place they can buy it. In the big picture, who cares? Will it be a good product for the public is the only thing that matters, so there.
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macman said:Motorola created iDen with the help of Nextel...back before they were even Nextel. And who does really care about all this? Not me. But when someone says something I know is blatantly false...I'll correct him/her. The fact is, Nextel18 routinely spouts this type of stuff every day.
just like they think Nextel owns iDen, because Nextel will be the only place they can buy it. In the big picture, who cares?
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Fair enough point, but the car wasn't leased of financed. Paid in cash. But i do understand what you were implying with the analogy (I even thought of the same point)
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I'm curiuos to see others thoughts, It has been proven tha Iden is the supperior PTT technology, i'm using VZW's Phase two and can't complain, yet I KNOW it isn't as quick initially. I'm wondering when the merger of sextel finally completes and the transition from Iden to Qchat occurs, do you think there will be a larger delay(probably not by much), but seeing how all other PTT clients work over CDMA i'm wondering if the excellent quality of Iden will be a thing of the past eventually?? Sort of how some people say that analog phones by far and away were way better for voice than digital service. But obviously was limited as far as digital features are concerned. Will all PTT subscribers onbe day just ha
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Hey Einstein- In case you haven't heard(over your head) iDen is being phased out and replaced by CDMA PTT (Q-Chat most likely) Go do your homework or take the kids to the zoo, you are wasting people's time in here.
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bigdaddyjay said:Actually, genius...iDen's not going anywhere for a few years...or haven't you been reading what Rich's been posting? We all know that eventually CDMA PTT will take over, but for now iDen's still very lucrative and not going anywhere? Would you like that in BIG letters?
Hey Einstein- In case you haven't heard(over your head) iDen is being phased out and replaced by CDMA PTT (Q-Chat most likely) Go do your homework or take the kids to the zoo, you are wasting people's time in here.
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You crack me up, the point is that iDenis being phased out by CDMA, I never said it was happening tomorrow. You should quit being a Rich Brome groupie and actually do some of your own research lazymama
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Grantizzle said:That's a Daddy and Nextel 18 specialty...spelling things incorrectly.
iDenis
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muchdrama said:Grantizzle said:That's a Daddy and Nextel 18 specialty...spelling things incorrectly.
iDenis
i just thought it was funny.
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That is the only thing Drama is good at, being a gramr correcter, oh know Drama is going to catch me spelling wrong or forgetting to put a space between iDen and is
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Drama has to find some way to try and make you look stupid, cause she is getting **** shoved in her face a lot. She is just pulling the standard high school bull ****, of haha they missed a space in a word, omg they are stupid. Drama why dont you go some place where people actually want to hear you, good luck find one though.
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nextel18 said:Why? Because I imagin e the coversation between you two went something like this:
why, muchdrama?
Nextel18: "Hey, ______...would you mind coming over to the Nextel forum at Phonescoop to agree with everything I say and help me bash muchdrama all day?"
Killer: "Sure. That sounds like fun. We could be a tag team, even! Woo!".
Nextel18: "Saddle up pardner!".
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wow, you are low. very sad, muchdrama. shame on you for saying things that arent true. shame on you.
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nextel18 said:Yes. Shame, shame, shame, shame on me. Bad boy.
wow, you are low. very sad, muchdrama. shame on you for saying things that arent true. shame on you.
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man how low of a person are you when all you do is sit and bash others in your post, in no way did i say iden was gonna be gone any time soon, but eventually, because EVENTUALLY it will be! NO cut the **** if there is nothing informative to say.
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it is quite sad i think. bashes me, bashes you, becuase they cant contribute.
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nextel18 said:Hey genius...he responded to the wrong post.
it is quite sad i think. bashes me, bashes you, becuase they cant contribute.
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VZWagent said:Who the hell are you talking to and what post are you referring to? I have no beef with you at all.
man how low of a person are you when all you do is sit and bash others in your post, in no way did i say iden was gonna be gone any time soon, but eventually, because EVENTUALLY it will be! NO cut the **** if there is nothing informative to say.
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muchdrama said:nextel18 said:Why? Because I imagin e the coversation between you two went something like this:
why, muchdrama?
Nextel18: "Hey, ______...would you mind coming over to the Nextel forum at Phonescoop to agree with everything I say and help me bash muchdrama all day?"
Killer: "Sure. That sounds like fun. We could be a tag team, even! Woo!".
Nextel18: "Saddle up pardner!".
Oh no nextel18!!! Drama figured it out, our scheme is over with i guess. LoL
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killer2239 said:muchdrama said:nextel18 said:Why? Because I imagin e the coversation between you two went something like this:
why, muchdrama?
Nextel18: "Hey, ______...would you mind coming over to the Nextel forum at Phonescoop to agree with everything I say and help me bash muchdrama all day?"
Killer: "Sure. That sounds like fun. We could be a tag team, even! Woo!".
Nextel18: "Saddle up pardner!".
Oh no nextel18!!! Drama figured it out, our scheme is over with i guess. LoL
I'll tell you what, Killer. I'll kiss and make up with you as I don't need any more enemies on this sight?
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muchdrama said:nextel18 said:You two make a delightful couple.
hahaha. obviously.
And you make an annoying b**** all by yourself.
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killer2239 said:Aw, you didn't have to start with the compliments. Thank you, however.muchdrama said:nextel18 said:You two make a delightful couple.
hahaha. obviously.
And you make an annoying b**** all by yourself.
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bigdaddyjay said:So...what Rich posts is inaccurate and I should go by what you and Nextel 18 say? Pardon me while I go laugh my ass off.
You crack me up, the point is that iDenis being phased out by CDMA, I never said it was happening tomorrow. You should quit being a Rich Brome groupie and actually do some of your own research lazymama
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