Cingulars PTT
WOW so has anyone actually used it??? its niiiccee.. i have the Samsung D357 and two wayed someone in Wis. as a test run. it is pretty bad ass. 😈 we are only about 2 milliseconds slower than nextel.... ooooohh... any thoughts on it?? i think it will Rock. i was impressed.. NOITHING like Sprints Direct Connect...... oh yeah... also a request... i would like to be entertained by Sprixtel Enthusiasts...
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I have not used it yet. I have heard that it is a lot better than Sprint and Cerizon's attempt at PTT. I also heard the nokia 6682 will be one of the PTT phones. 😎
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i just like it that all Company Reps Get PTT COU's.... 😈 muahahaha... gotta love it
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yea, we are supposed to be gettin some early sept. at least thats the "rumor" circulating at our store 😎
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ok no longer a rumor.. sims have been activated, and we're awaiting delivery of the phones from samsung. 😈
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Which market are you in??? I work in the Central region.....Chicago market?? WHo did you hear this from?? Did they give you a date??
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our lines are active... we are just waiting for the phones. by the way i'm in the northeast region (philly market)
our new business cards are being printed with the new numbers too...
our new business cards are being printed with the new numbers too...
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hmmm...do you have any more infor you can share?? what type of info do you want from me to prove I am a cingular employee??
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I'm guessing we won't be able to add this feature to a blue plan, right? I'm talking about if I buy a PTT phone from Nokia, or somewhere else.
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Why do we need it? What's the point? What purpose does it serve? I really just don't get it, so I hope someone can explain the appeal of this service. Please tell me it doesn't chirp when you get a connection request. That sound already makes me convulse.
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There are a lot of businesses that already benefit from this technology, which we do not provide. Imagine how many customers Cingular would take from Nextel (or should I say Sprint-Nextel?) and others who already provide this service. Bottom line is money, of course.
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The money part I understand, but how do these business people benefit from PTT? We already offer unlimited mobile to mobile. The only difference I can see between this is when you call them the other phone doesn't "ring", you have to take turns talking to each other, and everyone around you can hear your conversation.
When I was 6 I had a walkie talkie set that worked from about 10 feet apart. When I was 16 I had a CB radio in my car. When I was 22 I got a cell phone. Now I'm supposed to get a walkie talkie again?
When I was 6 I had a walkie talkie set that worked from about 10 feet apart. When I was 16 I had a CB radio in my car. When I was 22 I got a cell phone. Now I'm supposed to get a walkie talkie again?
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It's just more convenient and practical for some people to use PTT. Especially business users.
With PTT it's a quick "always connected" way to communicate with more than one person at once. Instead of continuing a call through the duration of your need to be connected with another person or group of people you can easily keep a connection and talk only when you need to. There's no wasted airtime and no need to call the person back every time you have something to say. If you just take a minute to sit down and think about it, it's just more practical to pick up your phone, hold in a button, say what you have to, and be done with it.
Imagine you are working on something that takes two hours of your time, but you must be connected to ...
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With PTT it's a quick "always connected" way to communicate with more than one person at once. Instead of continuing a call through the duration of your need to be connected with another person or group of people you can easily keep a connection and talk only when you need to. There's no wasted airtime and no need to call the person back every time you have something to say. If you just take a minute to sit down and think about it, it's just more practical to pick up your phone, hold in a button, say what you have to, and be done with it.
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Don't you still have to "dial" the person on the other end so it knows who to connect to? Can you speak to more than one party at the same time (3-way)? If you swap between calls, how does it distinguish which connection to speak on?
If I had to work on something for 2 hours and needed a second party to reference, I'd rather have them on speakerphone.
If I had to work on something for 2 hours and needed a second party to reference, I'd rather have them on speakerphone.
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You do have to "dial" to make the initial connection, but not every time you want to communicate with that person. You can also connect with a group which can include several more users than just three. I'm not sure the limit of users on a group connection though.
To the speakerphone comment, it's all personal preference. Some people have been anticipating Cingular's release of PTT with much excitement.
To the speakerphone comment, it's all personal preference. Some people have been anticipating Cingular's release of PTT with much excitement.
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it's gonna be great.. and if you dont want others hearing your conver.. put it on private (nextel offers this but I doubt alot of their users know it). Alot of people ask everyday, so their is a market for it..
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There's a market, yes, but is it really a good thing? I honestly don't think so.
Yes it's a wonderful way for Cingular to cash in on the gimmick that is PTT, but eventually it won't be such a big thing. I mean for a while there, when the whole PTT thing got really popular with consumers every third person asked me about it. But as time progressed I've gotten more and more people that tell me they're happy we don't have it because it's so damned annoying.
As a rep I'd probably sell the hell out of it both for the gimmick factor that my customers want, and the wonderfully high numbers/commission it would bring. Most of those customers would gladly plop down $10 extra for unlimited chances to annoy the hell out of me.
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Yes it's a wonderful way for Cingular to cash in on the gimmick that is PTT, but eventually it won't be such a big thing. I mean for a while there, when the whole PTT thing got really popular with consumers every third person asked me about it. But as time progressed I've gotten more and more people that tell me they're happy we don't have it because it's so damned annoying.
As a rep I'd probably sell the hell out of it both for the gimmick factor that my customers want, and the wonderfully high numbers/commission it would bring. Most of those customers would gladly plop down $10 extra for unlimited chances to annoy the hell out of me.
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how can you call it a gimmick when nextel has been offering it for as long as they have? i'm sure you know the deff of gimmick.
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I'm well aware of the definition of gimmick (like most words it has multiple definitions) and for the sake of clarification here's the definition I'm using:
"An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project: an advertising gimmick."
Therefore I can very easily call it a gimmick no matter how long Nextel's been offering it. You seem to have the impression that to call something a gimmick it must be short term....it doesn't have to be. Rollover is Cingular's gimmick, The "Can you hear me now?" commercials are VZW's gimmick, Alltel's dropped call credits are a gimmick. Every company has one. And eventually every company wants to cash in on everyone else's gimmick.
"An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project: an advertising gimmick."
Therefore I can very easily call it a gimmick no matter how long Nextel's been offering it. You seem to have the impression that to call something a gimmick it must be short term....it doesn't have to be. Rollover is Cingular's gimmick, The "Can you hear me now?" commercials are VZW's gimmick, Alltel's dropped call credits are a gimmick. Every company has one. And eventually every company wants to cash in on everyone else's gimmick.
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sure it's about making a profit. just like the mobile to mobile calling... only everyone picked up on it.
I still say ptt has a legitimate use for alot of people..
I still say ptt has a legitimate use for alot of people..
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I don't really "get" PTT, but it's coming more into view. I'm asking all this crap, because as a rep I'd like to know what the hell I'm talking about when a customer asks me.
So far I'm hearing that it works just like the cell phone features, but since it's only one way at a time it can work on a lower signal?
So far I'm hearing that it works just like the cell phone features, but since it's only one way at a time it can work on a lower signal?
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Something like that. Kinda like how you can still recieve a text or a voicemail alert when you're in an area where the signal's too low to actually get a call thru. It only takes short bursts whereas a call requires continuous connections (I assume).
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Text uses a different frequency than than actual calls do. Calls (on Cingular) use 850 whereas text uses 1900. In all reality the 850 frequency actually has a longer range than the 1900 frequency does. So in some areas you can still receive calls but you cant get text. But...the 1900 frequency is a stronger frequency than the 850. The 850 has trouble with some building that 1900 can penetrate. So there are some areas that can still receive text but you cant receive calls.
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This technology has many benefits, but for most the dispatch feature of being able to contact more than 2 other phones at once is the attraction. Kodiak has a great website for those cingular cust serv, and cingular sales reps wishing to learn more on their solution for ptt.
http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/ »
As for the post by springorem your off on text and voice spectrum use. 850mhz kills 1900mhz on building penetration. Typical range for a 850 gsm cell-site at full range is over 8 miles, 1900 tops out at close to 2 miles. Also at present sms still uses voice channels to send and receive on tdma and gsm networks with cingular. Multimedia messages use data to transfer information.
http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/ »
As for the post by springorem your off on text and voice spectrum use. 850mhz kills 1900mhz on building penetration. Typical range for a 850 gsm cell-site at full range is over 8 miles, 1900 tops out at close to 2 miles. Also at present sms still uses voice channels to send and receive on tdma and gsm networks with cingular. Multimedia messages use data to transfer information.
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disturbed1 said:
...and the fact that it takes MUCH less signal than an actual call does to get a message thru (again, great for field employees who may not be in the best coverage areas).
No true. Maybe for Nextel, but definitely not for Cingular. Cingular is using Kodiak's technology, which uses regular voice channels for PTT - just like a phone call.
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We at Alltel also you kodiak for PTT but we at alltel have the largest two coverage, has that been taken away from Cingular or can we still keep that title?
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no. cingular is not better than anybody. my little brother has a toy phone he got at walgreens and it dispenses candy. its pretty cool and it gets better reception than most cingular phones.
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Achilles5 said:
no. cingular is not better than anybody. my little brother has a toy phone he got at walgreens and it dispenses candy. its pretty cool and it gets better reception than most cingular phones.
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Achilles5 said:
no. cingular is not better than anybody. my little brother has a toy phone he got at walgreens and it dispenses candy. its pretty cool and it gets better reception than most cingular phones.
yea but he doesnt get rollover 😉 😁
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Absolutley! Cingular's PTT will be right up there with the quality of Nextels Direct Connect. Sprint(which im sure will now improve w/ the Nextel merger), verizon, and alltel's PTT are all very poor performance wise.
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The only reason he brought it up is since Alltel revamped their Kodiak system back in February it is not that far off of Nextel in preformance so if anything I would guess Cingular's and Alltels will be very similiar in Quality since they are practically the same Kodiak product.
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