Iphone Release Date?
While everyone knows that the Apple iPhone is coming out in June, there has been a significant amount of speculation as to its precise date of release.
Apple has been elusive as usual on the matter, stating only that the phone is "scheduled to ship in late June." The Boy Genius Report received an interesting piece of information at our world headquarters today, and it may shed some light on the iPhone release date confusion.
According to an official letter sent to all corporate AT&T employees, the Apple iPhone launch will take place on June 15th with the launch period extended until the 15th of July.
AT&T isn't even approving their employees from taking...
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The reality is an iron-clad contract with Apple dictating the launch, so not even AT&T could screw this one up.
I seriously doubt that. The levels of incompetence that AT&T (Cingular) are capable of is astounding.
Remember their response (or lack thereof) to the illegal NSA Wire Tapping program?
Of course, if the Bush Administration has their way, the telecommunications industry will receive immunity for violating the rights of possibly millions.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070504-bush-a ... »
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The issue of whether any of this behavior was legal is not important. The government has already argued that legali
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Also it was illegal until they received a warrant from the justice department 72 hours after they started...they may seem like a long time but is common when the case of probable cause has arisen.
And honestly I could care less if anyone is tapping my calls, because if you are doing something illegal where attention is brought to you, using a mobile phone is about the stupidest thing you could possibly do, besides doing something illegal in the first place.
While, I believe, your statements demonstrate a profound lack of understanding and ignorance on the principles our country was founded on (assuming your an American), I can not help but also wonder how you can assert such a thing considering the blatant abuses of power that have been perpetrated against the American people on under the guise of security and the cloak of terrorism.
Bruce Schneier has eloquently drafted a rebuttal for such nonsensical arguments.
The Eternal Value of Privacy
Brush Schneier, 05.18.06 | 2:00 AM
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/se ... »
The most common retort ag...
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Secondly, yes I am an American, both sides of my family are about as Anglo-Saxon you can get, with a couple of ethnic groups in there as well.
Both sides are members of Sons and Daughters of the Texas and American Revolution, with my dad side being members of the Sons Of Liberty.
And I know the exact type of person you are, the type that actually thinks out of over 300 million, the US Government would actually give two Rats Arses about you, or what you are doing...no one cares what you are doing as long as you are not doing anything against this country.
And let me ask this, if you can read information coming from outside the country, but not within, that is in response to the ...
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I always wondered if one of the fabled "28%" (they seem to be in hiding nowadays) could defend their positions that directly contradicts the constitution and not have to employ the tactics of terrorists in order to get their point across. I see now, that for some, it is not possible.
Much of your rambling does not even broach the subject of the intrusion on privacy and the rights of citizen's.
Instead you chose to try to use fear to force submission by saying terrorism exists, therefore we must submit to what those in authority dictate.
I honestly do not know how to respond much further to your post as it only threatens.
I did find some things interesting though:
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read up on FDR and while he was pres
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You sound like a friend of mine...a pathetic soul that doesn't realize his pessimistic attitude is driving away all his friends...but I am assuming you have some lol.
This is the last response I will have on your comments because you obviously have no life where you can write a novel and its honestly hard to sift through such opinionated crap.
And it isn't using fear to say terrorism does exist, we are the last country in a long line that has had to live through it.
But since it seems you already know me from "that ...
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Seriously, with your Sons of Liberty reference, your rambling, your fear mongering, inability to hold a rational conversation, and your desire for Texas to secede from Union; you've pretty much met and exceeded most stereotypes of Texas.
That's not a good thing btw.
I hate to break the news to you, but you are never going to own slaves again, no matter how fondly you remember the 'good ole days'.
Yeah, Texas should secede from the Union because it would be a lot more successful economically especially in regards to Energy and Defense, and not to mention Electronics. I cou...
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As for Texas... what would you like to discuss about it?
The deplorable double standards in the judicial system for non-whites to this day?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0 ... »
The rush to executions without due process? Afterall, 131 inmates were executed under George Bush as governor, and 43 of these inmates were represented by attorneys who at some point had been disbarred, suspeneded, or otherwise sanctioned by the Texas Bar Association.
The fear of sexual education and cancer related vaccines because of the fear of promiscuity.
The abysmal ...
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schlittertex said:
You sound like a friend of mine...a pathetic soul that doesn't realize his pessimistic attitude is driving away all his friends...but I am assuming you have some lol.
Being rational in Texas can instill feelings of persistant misery. He should move.
Webb said:
Being rational in Texas can instill feelings of persistant misery. He should move.
That's... pretty accurate. Dang.
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oh yeah sorry SIDE NOTE...
people start blaming others when they are thrown into the lions den themselves.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/olbermanns- ... »
Terrorism is now a political tool.
Rudolph W. Giuliani speaking to a forum about crime in the cities, sponsored by The New York Post.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E ... »
Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
To me your more like a "Tech Article Ticker" than an actualy person. When responding to your posts I'm not sure whether I should respond to you, or just send an email to whoever's article you posted....
Being able to cite sources of information and using information in context is not something I frown upon.
Having an opinion and having no clear source for the information you base your opinion on is something I frown upon.
Either way, I won't refrain from posting information that supports the context of my statements.
Especially when that information, more then likely, does a better job at the expression of an idea then I am capable of.
captainplooky said:
I'll never understood positions like yours.
My point exactly, I could not have stated it any better!
Thanks
That being said..I hardly think its a real debate and unless hell freezes over, it will have WiFi when released.
I really wish there was some other national GSM/UMTS carrier to force them to compete..
It was on their front news page that the approved version of the iPhone did not have WiFi.
Yes, I am retarded. Thanks to Rich and others for allowing me to continue their joke far after April 1st.
Good one guys.
That question stumps Texaswireless all the time.
After not being able to find any source, the next course of action is to invite you to Lubbock. 🤣
Why piss off potential customers because they "might" not want an overpriced data plan..
1. Piss of customers, no wifi
2. Force overpriced data plans
3. Profit!
captainplooky said:
Why piss off potential customers because they "might" not want an overpriced data plan..
1. Piss of customers, no wifi
2. Force overpriced data plans
3. Profit!
It will have wi-fi...
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html »
I have no desire for an Iphone and hope it fails miserably for several reasons.
Don't you like innovation? Don't you like competition?
Yes I do, which is precisely why I do not like the Wireless Industry in its present form.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070214-8839.html »
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Now a new paper by Columbia law professor Tim Wu suggests that conditions in the wireless network are not as rosy as generally supposed. Wu's study is sponsored by the New America Foundation, a Washington think tank. It will be presented at a workshop being held yesterday and today by the Federal Trade Commission.
Wu criticizes the "oligopoly" of four major wireless carriers—Verizon, AT&T, Sprint/Nextel, and T-Mobile—for engaging in the same types of anticompetitive behaviors seen in the d
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Apple is making an innovative phone for the World Market, not just the United States. You said you wanted that to fail miserably.
I don't need to look up the thoughts of others to point out your venom, thanks.
Back to insults I see.
That's probably for the best as it appears you have quite the difficulty with utilizing your reading comprehension skills and applying them in relevant ways to discussions.
EVERYONE here knows how much you hate AT&T. Answer this question outside the realm of the carrier and into the realm of electronics and innovation.
While I'm sure your marketing materials are bright and interesting, you might come to realize they lack substantial information.
There is nothing innovative about the Iphone. It's simply a phone with the same technology as all other comparable phones, but with a different brand name. The same electronic components from other phones, like the Samsung CPU and GPU from the Blackjack.
Innovation? Perhaps you could claim that with the software, but even that would be stretching the truth.
This do...
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I see (as do many tech experts) the Iphone as the same thing. While it may not have any groundbreaking new technology, it does incorporate several things that are not widespread at this time, i.e. touchscreen, visual voicemail, accelerometer, proximity sensor to detect when you lift the...
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Great response.
Had I said something similar it would have been shot down as biased I am sure.
You are right, there are significant capabilities that make this phone unique and will force the other manufacturers to take notice.
The ONLY reason he wants it to fail is that he DOESN'T want AT&T to find a success. The sad part is that should this product succeed Apple could have the pricing/brand power to launch a line of handsets that do not require carrier store purchase to get the best price (my idea on the matter, some agree, some don't). That would in turn force consumers to rethink their purchase choices. Consumers, not the carriers, have the power to change the U.S. handset market. Consumers, not legislati...
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Now while this phone will not revolutionize the industry by itself, it will force Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and all the other major manufacterers to continue to innovate their own lines to stay ahead.
I agree.
The biggest thing keeping the United States from a more "open" cell phone industry isn't cell phone carriers, its the customers.
I disagree.
I was asked my opinion on what I didn't like, and I gave it.
With the exception of Visual Voicemail (which required an infrastructure software overhaul as I understand), the Iphone incorporates selected off the shelf technology to meet its required form factor.
I have never said that I didn't think the Iphone would n...
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So, tell me why more consumers, given the choice, do not choose to do a one year or no contract plan when available?
You say you disagree with the premise that consumers drive the industry. I say consumers have some choice in the matter and do not make the choice for no contract plans. Cingular offers no contract plans (w/o free MTM, available for an extra $9.99) yet we don't sell them at all. My employees are fully aware of this option and explain to consumers their options in the matter. There is no need to make the argument that many do not know it is availble, as I agree. But taking a sample size of my store...
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By Tim Lee | Published: February 14, 2007 - 07:59AM CT
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070214-8839.html »
As the debate over network neutrality regulations has raged over the last year, the focus has been on wired networks, and especially the "last mile" in residential broadband networks. Commentators on both sides have tended to hold up the cell phone market as an example of the kind of fiercely competitive and vibrant market that's made possible by real competition.
Now a new paper by Columbia law professor Tim Wu suggests that conditions in the wireless network are not as rosy as generally supposed. Wu's study is sponsored by the New America Foundation, a Washington thin...
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But yet after all Wu points out about the shortcomings of various carriers, they still continue to add customers every year. Where's the outrage over Verizon's crippling of the bluetooth function on their devices? Where's the outrage over Verizon's and at&t's limited 3G services? Where's the outrage over sms update delays? You know where the outrage is? Its in these types of forums, put forth...
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The current state of wireless is eerily similar to the Broadband Scandal.
https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
A nice regurgitation...
I thought we moved past this childish straw-man attack.
captainplooky said:
A nice regurgitation...
I thought we moved past this childish straw-man attack.
Check you times Plooky, this was posted before my other post. As usual, you missed the entire point of my post - Why must a consumer rights group be the ones who push for change? If consumers were truly worried about their pocketbooks and rights being trampled, they would be in the streets demanding change! But the sad fact is the average consumer does not interest himself with the "details." Too many Americans simply pay a bill and are content with what they are provided. Have you ever seen the movie "Reign of Fire?" One of the lines in it goes like this: "Hail to the count ...
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keep buying the same old crap and they'll keep selling the same old crap.