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Free Roaming???

rdropps

Jan 16, 2007, 11:10 PM
I never understood the plan of free roaming when you don't even get the option to use it???? I got this phone A707 because of all the band width
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA 850
WCDMA 1900
Thinking if I was stuck somewhere I would still get network. None???? Why doesn't cingular phones go to other networks if it's free roaming. Or what can I do to set up my phone to look for another signal if there isn't any network? Thank you
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RUFF1415

Jan 16, 2007, 11:45 PM
You do get to use it. Although it's not actually an option on your phone to manually choose to roam (because Cingular wants you to use the home network, it's cheaper for them), your phone still reverts to other networks when the Cingular preferred network is not available.
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renardlee

Jan 17, 2007, 12:00 AM
i was also curious about the free roaming, that i do have, not that i want to roam all the time, but im in a major metropolitan area that's completely covered, but lets say i do go to an area that cingular(at&t: hey im adjusting) doesnt have coverage, will the phone roam in the background without me knowing or will the logo on the phone actually change to the other carrier's name, for example Cellular One(Dobson).
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Hombre07

Jan 17, 2007, 12:08 AM
You will never know the difference. By "free roaming" we mean you won't get any charges for roaming or calling long distance. Generally, if your in the map you have service. If your on the white, you don't.
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wombough

Jan 17, 2007, 3:26 PM
GSM phones tell you who's service you are on!
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crackberry

Jan 17, 2007, 3:59 PM
wombough said:
GSM phones tell you who's service you are on!

NOT on Cingular. the alpha tag is set to not change while in the U.S. If you roam int'l then it will but not in us territory.
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wombough

Jan 17, 2007, 4:45 PM
well then my friend must have a messed up phone!
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pink_panther

Jan 17, 2007, 6:17 PM
no, he may have an "unlocked" phone.
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rdropps

Jan 17, 2007, 12:11 AM
But it hasn't even revert to other networks. Just go to the low bar to none then to no network??
When I was with AT&T it would atleast go find available network to use.
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Hombre07

Jan 17, 2007, 12:17 AM
AT&T could do that, TDMA to TDMA. But GSM phones can't run on CDMA networks. You will have service or you will not, no other network about it.
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texaswireless

Jan 17, 2007, 2:23 AM
Exactly what Network is available that you think you cannot access?
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2007, 3:18 PM
In the case of your phone displaying "no network" there is just that, no network.

Your Cingular phone will roam onto another carrier's network without you ever knowing it...that's why it's free roaming. The network ID tag will not display another networks name or anything like that, so you may very well have been roaming onto another carrier's network and then just lost signal from all carriers altogether.

What carrier's network do you think your phone should be accessing in this "no network" spot?
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switchy85

Jan 17, 2007, 3:39 PM
??? I've had plenty of times where my Cingular phone will roam on another network and display the name of the network instead of Cingular's. Happens 24/7 in Alaska where only Cellular One (or whoever bought them now) has coverage.
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wombough

Jan 17, 2007, 3:44 PM
yeah your right. I don't know why they would say it doesn't. Who ever that has tmobile and travals in SC and NC will see Cingular! GSM phones will always say the network its just free!
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crackberry

Jan 17, 2007, 4:49 PM
wombough said:
yeah your right. I don't know why they would say it doesn't. Who ever that has tmobile and travals in SC and NC will see Cingular! GSM phones will always say the network its just free!

not cingular. they did this after they got rid of preferred nations plans. in the U.S. it will show Cingular.
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wombough

Jan 17, 2007, 4:50 PM
I don't get it. Its not cingular's network how can it show cingular. That tag is taken from the network!
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2007, 4:55 PM
I'm almost 100% sure crackberry's right.

In parts of the Laurel Mountains in PA, Cingular and T-Mobile don't have their own towers. Cellular One is the only company with native coverage. When I roam into those areas, my phone still displays Cingular (although I know for a fact it's not picking up a Cingular owned tower).

My phone's alpha tag only ever changed back when I was with AT&T Wireless.
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dromant

Jan 17, 2007, 5:49 PM
The alpha tag (which is what shows Cingular) is locked to Cingular on most, and i say most, cingular customers phones. In some areas where cingular has cusotmers with excessive off network roaming, they have it set to show when they are roaming by showing the other carriers tag, but for 95% of Cingular customers, it will always show Cingular, no matter what.
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wombough

Jan 17, 2007, 5:52 PM
oh ok makes sense!
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rdropps

Jan 17, 2007, 11:25 PM
Ok not me. I had an unlocked branded phone that cingular never carried. The Motorola V635. Now in the exact same spots that the A707 says no network also says the same for the Motorola phone. Now with my other phone
Carrier At&t in that same spot I would be picked up by another network so I could still make phone calls if my car was broken down or anything? So my question shouldn't an unlocked phone do this also if Cingular didn't put there network tag on the phone?????
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RUFF1415

Jan 18, 2007, 12:50 AM
The network tag would be induced by the Cingular SIM card, not the phone itself. So trying out your V635 with the same SIM ultimately would prove nothing.
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2007, 4:52 PM
Perhaps it depends on the SIM cards, the switches, the towers, or something else.

I know for a fact that in parts of the the Laurel Mountains in Western Pennsylvania, Cingular and T-Mobile don't have their own towers up there. Any Cingular phone will roam onto Cellular One's network but will remain displaying Cingular as the alpha tag.

I've witnessed it first hand on countless occasions considering I have a camp up there.
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rdropps

Jan 17, 2007, 11:19 PM
Before it would find celluare one Can't spell it. Another network. This was with my AT&T phone. But with Cingular it doesn't do that and when you try to dial out. I get the dead tone. So I know it's not secretly working in the background just because it doesn't list on the phone. That's why I don't understand the free roaming when it doesn't even let you have the choice to do it.
I remember back in the day when the phone (Can't remember the carrier) would always warn me when I going to switch into another network. Though days we would be charged the roaming time. I just like the idea when I'm out in the boonies and have car trouble I can make a call to get help. I don't have that option with Cingular. So I figured get this phone...
(continues)
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RUFF1415

Jan 18, 2007, 12:48 AM
There is no lock on the phone to work only on Cingular's network. The alpha tag is the only thing that is technically "locked."

What phone are you using? Perhaps it's just not picking up signal strength as well as your old AT&T phone did.
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lil_wayne_1029

Jan 17, 2007, 12:24 AM
When I was in Mexico this past summer I actually had a good signal using my w600i. While I was vacationing I picked up the local cell service telcell. I was surprised I picked up any signal because my cousin with his razr v3(tmobile) picked up no service. I thought I could get around roaming charges by just surfing the web and not do any voice calls. Well i came back to a $80 bill just for surfing the web. I didnt know surfing the web would count as roaming. hahahahaha
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incognitoool

Jan 18, 2007, 9:13 PM
Everywhere I have been in the US with my phone has displayed cingular. Though, I've checked their coverage maps http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
and some of those areas have been roaming.
However, I went into Canada a few weeks ago, and my phone displayed "Rogers Wireless." Also, a friend with cingular has told me that in Europe, the local carrier's name will show on the phone. So I would assume that anywhere outside of the US will display the carrier's name.
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