What happened to the August 29th Rumer?
no idea what you are talking about - Sep 1st is when all the changes occur.
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The ones were cingular copies verizon because they cannot think on there own and they still cannot figure out why verizon is killing them every quarter! Maybe there next "big change" should be towards enhancing there service wouldn't you think??
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Oh killer comment dude. To compete with 9.99 add-a-lines, the price plan HAS to change to the same one as Verizon's to maintain profit.
But guess what? Verizon doesn't have Rollover. So what do you take if both Cingular and Verizon get coverage in the same area? Verizon if you are a moron. Cingular if you like keeping the minutes you pay for.
Plus, our phones rule.
And so what if Verizon gets sweet coverage in butt****, idaho. Only 3 people live there anyways, and Cingular will eventually be putting up just as much coverage as Verizon offers. 6 BILLION dollars into network expansion for 2006.
But guess what? Verizon doesn't have Rollover. So what do you take if both Cingular and Verizon get coverage in the same area? Verizon if you are a moron. Cingular if you like keeping the minutes you pay for.
Plus, our phones rule.
And so what if Verizon gets sweet coverage in butt****, idaho. Only 3 people live there anyways, and Cingular will eventually be putting up just as much coverage as Verizon offers. 6 BILLION dollars into network expansion for 2006.
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thats cool, 8 billion for verizons network though! And also it's not just in bum f**k idaho but verizon rates substantially higher in every MAJOR CITY in the country so I guess you really don't know what your talking about. Not to mention the comment about your phones being cooler shows me you are no more than 15yrs old. Also last but not least what good is a phone if it doesn't work example "Boy my razor looks cool static, static, static oops dropped call again" yeah thats cool!!! hahahaha LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Last time I checked Verizon was spending $4 billion on network expansion. Show some facts if you're going to throw at a bullshit claim. $8 billion in network expansion is unrealistic.
Either way, the amount of money a company puts into their network has no bearing on the quality of the service.
Either way, the amount of money a company puts into their network has no bearing on the quality of the service.
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Exactly so then tell your other fanboy that his mention of $6 billion for cingulars network means nothing! They can spend $12 billion and they still wouldn't be anywhere near verizon, so there is nothing else you or any other cingualr fanboy could say done deal...
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at least I'm a fanboy of a company worth being with and not a company trying to be like someonething it's not and thats reliable! 3Q I will have the last laugh again as I've had all year 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Laugh all you want... let the number of customers show what company is Number 1... Cingular must be doing something right.
It's a huge company and it takes time to change... everyone isn't going to wake up tomorrow morning and see 100% satisfaction with any company, especially one that is as far flung as Cingular or Verizon.
Coverage will be better by the end of Oct if the tower switchover remains on schedule... lets see what the coverage looks like later this year and then we can have a discussion about that.
It's a huge company and it takes time to change... everyone isn't going to wake up tomorrow morning and see 100% satisfaction with any company, especially one that is as far flung as Cingular or Verizon.
Coverage will be better by the end of Oct if the tower switchover remains on schedule... lets see what the coverage looks like later this year and then we can have a discussion about that.
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wow are you silly so the number of customers states who's better?? All cingular did was buy at&t who had 20 million plus customers it's not like they went out there and earned them they were bought. So if Verizon buys a company with 20 million plus customers they are automatically number one?? Wake up from your dream!!!! The results at the end of every quarter show who is number one, and who do you think is winning every quarter??? EXACTLY!!!
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but Cingular is keeping the customers they have... low churn, rising arpu, etc.
True they "bought" the customers, but they are keeping them.
True they "bought" the customers, but they are keeping them.
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Are you kidding me keeping them they had the some of the worst churn in the business!! Now thats really funny this deserves (3) faces 🤣 🤣 🤣
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They lowered their churn every quarter since the merge. Down to 2.2% from 2.7% in Q4 of last year. Sprint and T-Mobile both have higher churn rates.
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I never said they were the worst.. Sprint and t-mobile are a whole different ball game..T-mobile is lucky to even compete right now with there debt and 3g problems and there owner deutsch basically saying they can't wait to dump them on somebody. What does that tell you about them? Sprint on the other hand made a poor choice in buying nextel they must have only done it to aqcuire future bandwith but if you ask me they should have just let nextel crumble as they were!
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but as the post above you said, they've lowered churn every quarter since the merger.
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I, you ignorant fool, am no fanboy.
I do condone the fact that Verizon is a very strong company with great service to offer. I also do condone the fact that Cingular is one too. I have used both services in my area and Cingular works better, even if it is a slight difference, than Verizon. So what, by me stating that the amount of money spent on a company's network holds no bearing on quality of service, makes me a fanboy?
I like Verizon. I don't like you.
Done deal...
I do condone the fact that Verizon is a very strong company with great service to offer. I also do condone the fact that Cingular is one too. I have used both services in my area and Cingular works better, even if it is a slight difference, than Verizon. So what, by me stating that the amount of money spent on a company's network holds no bearing on quality of service, makes me a fanboy?
I like Verizon. I don't like you.
Done deal...
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Yeah. I have no idea what I am talking about. Maybe I'll just quit posting on phonescoop. And, while I'm at it, I'll drop cingular. My v600 looks really sweet, but it does always drop calls and make staticy ones. I never get service anywhere I go. I stood right next to a cell phone tower, and it still didn't work. Owell, I'll just keep paying my bill.
I guess I just don't know how a company has about 51.6 million customers that all have phones that don't work! Maybe we will never know. Not to mention they let me sign a 2 year agreement when I am 15 years old! This company really sucks!
I guess I just don't know how a company has about 51.6 million customers that all have phones that don't work! Maybe we will never know. Not to mention they let me sign a 2 year agreement when I am 15 years old! This company really sucks!
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I will tell you how they bought at&t who already had 20 million plus customers thats how they got there numbers, sounds like you are finally coming to your senses about your company. 🤣
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I have always wondered. How much of verizons network is actually theirs and how much is roaming partners?
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I would have to say most of there network is theres then again all features work everywhere on there network, plus they are the most reliable and without static!!!
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but the thing is there features do not work everywhere, their data map is about a third of their voice. Which would lead be to believe much of the coverage is roaming parters or analog.
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The best representation of a company's own coverage is their prepaid maps.
Verizon (the bright red is their own CDMA coverage):
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/cardprepayp ... »
Cingular:
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/ ... »
Verizon (the bright red is their own CDMA coverage):
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/cardprepayp ... »
Cingular:
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/ ... »
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RUFF1415 said:
The best representation of a company's own coverage is their prepaid maps.
Verizon (the bright red is their own CDMA coverage):
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/cardprepayp ... »
Cingular:
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/ ... »
as much as i'd love to defend this, the Pick your Plan map includes some roaming partners, not all though. the pay as you go is the most realistic, but again, all features work in all areas of our regular coverage map as well. 😉
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RUFF1415 said:
The best representation of a company's own coverage is their prepaid maps.
Verizon (the bright red is their own CDMA coverage):
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/cardprepayp ... »
Cingular:
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/ ... »
I checked Verizon's link, and their website was down. I guess that means they have no coverage of their own, right? cingular's is their coverage map for two years ago.
-Z
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I don't know what to tell you. Both of the links I provided were correct at the time of post.
Verizon's was their "pay-as-you-go national map and cities list" and Cingular's was their "GoPhone pick-your-plan national map". Both recent, working links, especially considering Cingular has never offered GoPhone until this year.
You can take a look at Jinx's response to my original post to know that those were correct and properly working links.
I guess links change? I don't know why, but they are no longer properly working.
In any case, if the information is of that much interest to you, you can look for it yourself. You will see that Cingular and Verizon's native coverage are pretty even
Verizon's was their "pay-as-you-go national map and cities list" and Cingular's was their "GoPhone pick-your-plan national map". Both recent, working links, especially considering Cingular has never offered GoPhone until this year.
You can take a look at Jinx's response to my original post to know that those were correct and properly working links.
I guess links change? I don't know why, but they are no longer properly working.
In any case, if the information is of that much interest to you, you can look for it yourself. You will see that Cingular and Verizon's native coverage are pretty even
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all i was pointing out is that the link you have points to GoPhone Pick your plan, but you should be referencing Pay as you go if you are comparing Company Owned towers.
But the second part of my point is that it doesn't matter - if you are on postpaid we STILL have 1 map, not multiple like VZW. Our services don't ONLY work on the company owned network, but ALL roaming partners as well.
But the second part of my point is that it doesn't matter - if you are on postpaid we STILL have 1 map, not multiple like VZW. Our services don't ONLY work on the company owned network, but ALL roaming partners as well.
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I understand this. That post was directed towards somebody else, who was having trouble veiwing the right links. 🙂
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maverick96 said:
I would have to say most of there network is theres
lie - cingular OWNS roughly DOUBLE the towers that VZW does.
maverick96 said:
then again all features work everywhere on there network,
lie - according to THEIR OWN WEBSITE, they don't.
maverick96 said:
plus they are the most reliable and without static!!!
lie - their most reliable "claim" is based on their OWN INTERNAL STUDIES.(readt he fine print at the bottom of the ad) Of course they are going to say they're the best.
and if you are getting "static" on a GSM phone, it's an equipment issue, not a service issue:
analog = hiss/static
digital = no sound/cho...
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J.D. Power and Consumer Reports are they lying? No it's not an equipment issue it is a service issue.. ANOTHER DAYDREAMER MESMORISED
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Consumer reports knows nothing about cell phones what so ever. they know about a lot of things, but if you read some of their articles when they come out, it looks like the person just started learning about cellular.
JD Power actually has T-Mobile ranked as the overall best carrier in the nation. Dont just look at one region, look at every ranking and every region and T-Mobile more often than not is ranked higher or tied with Verizon.
But to be honest, it frankly doesnt matter who you think is better, it is to every person who has their cell phone. I get 40% of my customers comming in and complaining about Verizon service, then when they leave only a handful tell me they want to go back.
In my area I have Sprint and it works as go...
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JD Power actually has T-Mobile ranked as the overall best carrier in the nation. Dont just look at one region, look at every ranking and every region and T-Mobile more often than not is ranked higher or tied with Verizon.
But to be honest, it frankly doesnt matter who you think is better, it is to every person who has their cell phone. I get 40% of my customers comming in and complaining about Verizon service, then when they leave only a handful tell me they want to go back.
In my area I have Sprint and it works as go...
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AshDizzle said:
And so what if Verizon gets sweet coverage in butt****, idaho. Only 3 people live there anyways, and Cingular will eventually be putting up just as much coverage as Verizon offers. 6 BILLION dollars into network expansion for 2006.
Since when did 48 Million people live in Butt***, Idaho????
As for the 6 Billion dollars in expansion... quite honestly they need it.
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47.4 million customers. Don't make up 600,000 people man. That's not cool.
And funny, I don't remember saying all Verizon customers live in the boonies.
And yeah, Cingular needs it. Oh wait, no they don't. What was I thinking? Why would any cell phone company want to spend money to expand? That's so stupid! They should just donate the 6 billion to the national spelling bee association! Then we can spell rumor.
And funny, I don't remember saying all Verizon customers live in the boonies.
And yeah, Cingular needs it. Oh wait, no they don't. What was I thinking? Why would any cell phone company want to spend money to expand? That's so stupid! They should just donate the 6 billion to the national spelling bee association! Then we can spell rumor.
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