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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 7:32 AM
Can someone please tell me why is Verizon W and Cingular are so expensive?

60 + 10
for just 500 anytime family plan?

Cingular W
50 + 20
for 600 anytime family plan

Alltel W
60 + 10
for 900 anytime and you also get unlimited mobile to home as well!

And Alltel has just as good coverage as the BIG GUYS ....

is everybody missing this or is this just me?
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austin316

May 2, 2005, 8:41 AM
Thats simple to answer as far as cingular.Altell and VZW wireles are CDMA tech, its a lower end tech compared to gsm, so it does not cost as much to maintain the CDMA network.

GSM is a much more expensive tech to maintain support and grow even bigger then it is.We also have more reps, more engineers, sales reps and other departments that the oney ise used to pay for.

No answer for VZW.
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Aleq

May 2, 2005, 11:05 AM
austin316 said:
Thats simple to answer as far as cingular.Altell and VZW wireles are CDMA tech, its a lower end tech compared to gsm, so it does not cost as much to maintain the CDMA network.

GSM is a much more expensive tech to maintain support and grow even bigger then it is.We also have more reps, more engineers, sales reps and other departments that the oney ise used to pay for.

No answer for VZW.


TMobile is GSM, our family plans are priced to include two lines, 500 shared mins with unlt'd nights, weekends and M2M is 49.99, 1000 mins is 69.99, 1600 mins is 99.99, 2500 mins 129.99, 10.00 add a line for any line past the first two, up to five lines per family plan.

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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 11:07 AM
No its larger coverage. More money for more towers available. 😁
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toddzillaus

May 2, 2005, 3:45 PM
Doesn't t-mobile rent the tower space?...seems to me that people in california where complaining about the cost due to switching from t-mobile to cingular 😉
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Zaniphan

May 2, 2005, 11:13 AM
austin316 said:
...CDMA tech, its a lower end tech compared to gsm...
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🤣 🤣

CDMA is lower end tech....

🤣 🤣
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HeroPsychoDreamer

May 2, 2005, 11:15 AM
Here comes a flame war.... 🙄
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texaswireless

May 2, 2005, 1:02 PM
"Morons! I've got morons on my team"
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Aleq

May 2, 2005, 3:26 PM
texaswireless said:
"Morons! I've got morons on my team"

Bingo! 🤣
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ralph_on_me

May 2, 2005, 4:06 PM
Spaceballs, right?
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disturbed1

May 2, 2005, 3:32 PM
Just to set the record straight on this one. CDMA is actually more expensive to maintain. GSM is more widespread and is a STANDARD, therefore it's much lower cost to build and maintain. CDMA on the other hand is the equivalent to a proprietary solution and therefore more expensive to build and maintain cause developers have to have not only license, but knowhow. That license translates into higher maintenance cost.

Think of it like Windows and Linux. Anyone can get or develop for Linux because it's open-source code. Because of this it's pretty cheap...sometimes FREE. In Windows' case you have to have license, knowhow and authorization from Microsoft to develop applications. The cost of that authorization translates into higher pri...
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SForsyth01

May 2, 2005, 8:43 AM
Alltel is a regional carrier. VZW and Cingular are national carriers. I have yet to see an alltel map that compares to the size of VZW or Cingular. I could be wrong about that, but as far as I have seen, the coverage of the 2 big guys far exceeds alltel. Thus the price difference.
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CingularguyinTN

May 2, 2005, 9:10 AM
Cingular
70 + 10
1100 ROLLOVER minutes
Unlimted M 2 M nationwide
Unlimted Nights and Weekends
Plus No roaming or Long distance

I dont see alltel haveing half the coverage of the big guys 😁
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Draynen

May 2, 2005, 9:16 AM
Or 60+10 for 900, exact same as the altel deal...
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 9:22 AM
http://www.alltel.com/personal/wireless/plans/index. ... »

Alltel has everybit the amount of coverage as the other two, they have agreements with vzm they share eachothers.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

May 2, 2005, 9:32 AM
And you think they do this for free??

I'm sure once you leave Alltel's calling area they charge you roaming up the ying yang.
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 9:38 AM
not at all check that coverage map nationwide and total freedom come with no roaming and long distance ..... just can't beat alltel
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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 10:11 AM
But the point is that they are still a regional carrier and that means that they are not gonna be everywhere...
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 10:19 AM
But they are everywhere
with no roaming and alltel and verizon together, and the fact that they just purchased western wireless you can go everywhere
cheaper
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SForsyth01

May 2, 2005, 10:51 AM
They are NOT everywhere. I cannot get alltel service in my area, even though they show that they have coverage there. They may have a national map, but they don't have local phone numbers available in all major markets, thus meaning they are simply a regional carrier.
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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 10:55 AM
Hi Shawn! 😁
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SForsyth01

May 2, 2005, 10:58 AM
Hi, Jackie, how are you?
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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 10:59 AM
Just peachy! 😁 And you?
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SForsyth01

May 2, 2005, 12:54 PM
absolutely wonderful. But I need to find a new job, so I am busy with the wonderful job search. Maybe I will try the wireless industry.
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austin316

May 2, 2005, 10:14 AM
LUCK-o-IRISH said:
not at all check that coverage map nationwide and total freedom come with no roaming and long distance ..... just can't beat alltel


It's clear you don't work in the business, so here's what they meant, you mentioned that altell shares roam agreement with VZW, and thats true, but the roam agreement is a agreeement between the two carriers, that in exchange for as an example letting a VZW use a altell tower, or for letting a altell customer using a tower, the roaming partner allows them authorized access in return for a roam fee, what's called "in collect" fees.

the rates are hammered out in the roam agreement, anywhere from $0.15 a minutes up to $0.50, depending on area coverage, mor...
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 10:19 AM
When i go to Pittsburgh wich is 25 miles from my house I switch to Verizon ..... and these charges your talkin about do not exist on my bill at all.
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austin316

May 2, 2005, 10:25 AM
No you don't pay those fees, the company does, and where do you think the company gets to afford to in collect fees, from the bills you pay for monthly service.

Do you think that VZW says "you are my competitor, but out of the goodness of our heart we will let your customers use our towers 🙄 "

Thats what roam agreements and incollect fees, that why if you have a local plan and you leave your local area, you pay roam fees with some carriers, thats why you tend to pay more money for less minutes with a national plan.And thats also why some carriers won't let you roam on anyone else's towers.Its all in the cost of the in collect fees, and the roam agreements.
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scottmack22

May 2, 2005, 10:30 AM
AllTel is regional. If it isn't then why are there no AllTel stores in Massachusetts?
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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 10:31 AM
Oh by the way, GOOD MORNING 😁 to everyone.
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scottmack22

May 2, 2005, 10:34 AM
Must be a full moon today! Customers started complaining 15 minutes before the mall even opened. I mean my computer at the kiosk wasn't even on!
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jramossteel

May 2, 2005, 10:38 AM
Oh yeah... I had a good weekend, so I know that this week is gonna be H-E- double hockeysticks.
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 3:44 PM
Your not makin sense this all started because you CAN roam on verizons towers AND ITS STILL CHEAPER!
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HeroPsychoDreamer

May 2, 2005, 10:26 AM
Dont you have to live in a certain are to get an Alltel plan?

If you don't, what good is Alltel?
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davidg4781

May 2, 2005, 10:51 AM
Ok, I don't know about the rate plans rates or anything, but, basing the price on how many service reps the company has or their coverage size is just terrible business practice, and probably not what Cingular does.

Using that logic, if they started out only in Texas, their rates would be lower. Once they expanded to LA and OK, they would have to raise rates to cover the extended area and more customer service peeps. But, they would also be taking in more revenue. That revenue should be used to cover the extra expenses. If not, they just put them selves down the road called Bankruptcy.

Also, business should not base their prices on their costs, but on what the market tells them to price it on. If some dork opened a restaurant se...
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LUCK-o-IRISH

May 2, 2005, 3:46 PM
Either way ............... Oh and Alltel has EV-DO wich blows EDGE away
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