canadians may not have the best cell Rate plans but....
In blissful apathy year long...
speck said:
Canada is awesome... they're like the potheads of the world...
In blissful apathy year long...
I don't know, man. I live in Edmonton and I'm not very blissful or apathetic towards our -40 degree winter weather. So you might want to amend that statement to around half the year.
I'll agree with the pothead theory, though, from personal experience if nothing else ;)
YOu would be better off in Denmark...with regard to healthcare.
We pay zip, zilch, nadda..oh, did I miss ZERO?
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Great Health care insurance at $400 a month is much less then paying 10x that in taxes for crappy health care. Do the math. Unless you are poor, Canadian health care makes no sense after the taxes. Id rather pay 25% taxes and $4000 a year for top line health insurance. then pay $40K or more a year in taxes for Canadian style Health care...And the medical Centers in Detroit, Niagara Fall and many other border towns will attest to that.
Where are you getting your stats?
That's one of the funniest things I ever heard!
It is all over the news from several different sources, not just Fox News (you guys can watch it now hehe). You are 'paying" for your health care. You are paying for it before you even use it.
Gotta love socialism.
texaswireless said:
Scotian,
It is all over the news from several different sources, not just Fox News (you guys can watch it now hehe). You are 'paying" for your health care. You are paying for it before you even use it.
Gotta love socialism.
And those who earn more are paying more (in taxes) for the same "quality" care.....No Socialized health care Canadian style is no bargain.
I'll take choice....
texaswireless said:
Scotian,
not just Fox News (you guys can watch it now hehe).
Are you for real? we've been watchin' fox just as long as you dumbass. Get with the times! 🤣
http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/threads/showflat.php ... »
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Toronto/Pet ... »
http://www.ccta.ca/english/View.asp?t=&x=150&id=331 »
Before you resort to making foolish statements and childish name calling why don't you get your facts straight.
There were close to 20 different articles all stating the same thing. I chose to link only 3 including the state run regulation body.
Gotta love censorship.
How many Canadian stations do American stations not broadcast? Probably most of them. Each country has its own stations and its own regulatory board. Americans freak out over a bare breast on superboal, and in Canada our stations broadcast porn at 10-12:00 on french stations.
I really dont think people around the world should watch FOX that much, they would realize how arrgant, protectionist and racist (a small portion) of societ...
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Oh and BTW, there are quite a few Arab TV broadcasts here locally, as well as Hispanic, French, British, CANADIEN, Indian, Japanese, Chinese and pretty much and other reasonably sized nationality you might think. Supply and demand dictate what channels are shown here by providers, not a government agency. If you really wa...
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texaswireless said:
Scotian,
It is all over the news from several different sources, not just Fox News (you guys can watch it now hehe). You are 'paying" for your health care. You are paying for it before you even use it.
Gotta love socialism.
do you know what propaganda means that what fox news provides on the 10pm evening news
pointblank500 said:texaswireless said:
Scotian,
It is all over the news from several different sources, not just Fox News (you guys can watch it now hehe). You are 'paying" for your health care. You are paying for it before you even use it.
Gotta love socialism.
do you know what propaganda means that what fox news provides on the 10pm evening news
no they provide the alternate propaganda CNN and the big three networks have been providing for years.
pointblank500 said:
believe what you want about Canadian health care but when my babies are sick i don't need to worry about paying a co-pay all i need to do is pat 5$ for a prescription and insurance pays the rest
I'll gladly make the co pay and get seen by a doctor today and surgery tomorrow if needed. And as well keep more of my own income in my pocket.
you talk about surgery, if someone needs surgery they get it. if your talking about heart or something like that no matter where you are US or CAN you need to wait for the right donor. i don't know anyone that waited an unusually long time
Rathrok said:
Well...on the news recently someone got a letter stating they were ready to do the surgery. But umm, the person had been dead for oooh, 6 months? 😳
As opposed to the current method in the US, wherein those who are either rich or have good health insurance get anything they need as soon as they need it, but anybody who doesn't have insurance can either wait until they can pay for it (and for a lot of procedures six months past dead will just about work out) or they can go ahead and pay for it the rest of their lives--sacrificing future standard of living for the privilege of living at all.
I'll take the Canadian model any day--that whole "you might have to WAIT for HEALTH CARE!!" scare ...
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Aleq said:...Rathrok said:
Well...on the news recently someone got a letter stating they were ready to do the surgery. But umm, the person had been dead for oooh, 6 months? 😳
As opposed to the current method in the US, wherein those who are either rich or have good health insurance get anything they need as soon as they need it, but anybody who doesn't have insurance can either wait until they can pay for it (and for a lot of procedures six months past dead will just about work out) or they can go ahead and pay for it the rest of their lives--sacrificing future standard of living for the privilege of living at all.
I'll take the Canadian model any day--that whole "you might have to
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muchdrama said:...Aleq said:Rathrok said:
Well...on the news recently someone got a letter stating they were ready to do the surgery. But umm, the person had been dead for oooh, 6 months? 😳
As opposed to the current method in the US, wherein those who are either rich or have good health insurance get anything they need as soon as they need it, but anybody who doesn't have insurance can either wait until they can pay for it (and for a lot of procedures six months past dead will just about work out) or they can go ahead and pay for it the rest of their lives--sacrificing future standard of living for the privilege of living at all.
I'll take the Canadian model an
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Aleq said:...muchdrama said:Aleq said:Rathrok said:
Well...on the news recently someone got a letter stating they were ready to do the surgery. But umm, the person had been dead for oooh, 6 months? 😳
As opposed to the current method in the US, wherein those who are either rich or have good health insurance get anything they need as soon as they need it, but anybody who doesn't have insurance can either wait until they can pay for it (and for a lot of procedures six months past dead will just about work out) or they can go ahead and pay for it the rest of their lives--sacrificing future standard of living for the privilege of living at all.
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Aleq said:Fox News is a hand puppet for the devil.
Oh, sorry, I mean the alleged ozone hole that isn't going to affect us a bit and actually doesn't really exist, or so Fox News tells us... 🙄
muchdrama said:Aleq said:Fox News is a hand puppet for the devil.
Oh, sorry, I mean the alleged ozone hole that isn't going to affect us a bit and actually doesn't really exist, or so Fox News tells us... 🙄
No wonder everything they say smells so gross! 🙄
An economic overview of America's system is: 42 million people are not covered, the various health care plans place rigid limitations on which doctors and hospitals people can use, cost-saving measures are forcing patients out of hospital beds prematurely, administrative costs are approaching 25% of the health care dollar, managed care is generally structured such that physicians have incentives to cut costs and gain revenue by withholding care, and many Americans live in fear of losing whatever care they have.
Our current system is based on the power of the insurance industry to stifle any challenges from alternatives. They advocate a competitive ...
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And no death taxes here, or lotto taxes. Things all balance out. We spend on health and education you spend on military and research
speck said:
I like canada... Once you accept that they're just there... and noty to expect anything..> Canada is awesome... they're like the potheads of the world...
In blissful apathy year long...
Don't forget the beer too.
mmcnier said:And they tax the ever lovin' hell out of you too. Basically it's Socialism at its finest. But, damn is it nice up there.
I plan on retiring to Canada. They awe pretty awesome up there. Crime rate is practically 0, health care rocks & they have great benefits all around.
Rathrok said:
It may be free....but if you need some sort of major surgery or transplant, expect to wait a very long time. Probably be dead by the time you get the surgery.
you need to stop watching the fox new (the news texaswireless likes) b/c your being pumped full of bills*$t
just so you this debate is all in fun and i so sincerely enjoy it
Rathrok said:
It may be free....but if you need some sort of major surgery or transplant, expect to wait a very long time. Probably be dead by the time you get the surgery.
Gee, and how many of those major surgeries have you had to have, as opposed to non-major, day to day health care needs? Not to mention how many major surgeries are the result of a lack of basic preventative and diagnostic care in the FIRST PLACE.
As for transplants, until you can buy parts on Ebay your access to a transplant in the US will depend on your status on the list as well as the tissue matching of available donor methods, it has NOTHING to do with socialized health care... 🙄
A fond memory of the health care system for me was when my grandfather had cancer. It was inoperable, regardless of what country you were in. However, he was able to get free care for months, they even had a nurse come to his house for free everyday. When he was in the hospital the family did not go bankrupt over it, and my grandmother still had money to live comfortable afterwards. It's nice to have free Health Care.
Rathrok said:
I'll stick to my health plan...and save money in the end compared to the "free" healthcare in Canada.
Yeah, I wonder how much you'd like your health plan, or find it affordable, if there were no employer contribution to it. Would you be willing to stop paying your rent or mortgage in order to be able to afford health care? No? Well, nice for you you aren't in that position, because millions of Americans are. Enjoy your little tunnel vision view there, because as long as YOU'RE set, it's all good, right? 🙄
If you're that bad off, to where you need to sacrifice everything else just to pay for health insurance, than maybe you're living beyond your means? Or maybe you need to pick up a second job. Or become a citizen in mexico, have your citizen status revoked here, then cross the border and get free health-care at the expense of my tax dollar for being an illegal alien.
Rathrok said:
Actually, I've priced health insurance before. My employer doesn't offer the best plan, so I do pay a decent amount as it is. If they weren't paying in, I could still find a similar plan on my own and afford it just fine.
If you're that bad off, to where you need to sacrifice everything else just to pay for health insurance, than maybe you're living beyond your means? Or maybe you need to pick up a second job. Or become a citizen in mexico, have your citizen status revoked here, then cross the border and get free health-care at the expense of my tax dollar for being an illegal alien.
Hey, how 'bout those "preexisting conditions" insurance companies are so fond of refusing to accept? ...
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Rathrok said:
When you figure out a way to change the world, give me a call. Until then, yes it is only about ME, because that is the only thing I can control. How do you like them apples?
Well golly, Sport, the way we change things here in America is by getting involved, becoming aware and VOTING. Fortunately, the rest of the world doesn't suffer from the recto-cranial inversion we here in the US enjoy on this subject. Therefore, it's a much simpler task than the one you posit.
And in the meantime, you might want to reflect on the fact that most of us are at most a couple of paychecks away from living under a bridge, that nothing is terribly secure or stable, and that the universe tends to give you ba...
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temp said:
silly canadians, healthcare is for kids
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ROFL
You win the thread.
inACW said:temp said:
silly canadians, healthcare is for kids
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ROFL
You win the thread.
yay......i want a cookie
Being a Canadian or Being an American . . .
I would choose to be Canadian Hands-Down,
no doubt about it.
ATT_IS_DEAD said:
If I had the choice between :
Being a Canadian or Being an American . . .
I would choose to be Canadian Hands-Down,
no doubt about it.
And so your wish comes true....as all should.
Now if we could only get those on the southern border to dream the same dream....
ATT_IS_DEAD said:
If I had the choice between :
Being a Canadian or Being an American . . .
I would choose to be Canadian Hands-Down,
no doubt about it.
you left out the "aye" 😁
inACW said:
what carrier is that through? That sounds better than what I've seen.
Inside hook up 😉