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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 3:09 PM
Ok I was just wondering how the testing was going?? I know that some one had said that it was being tested in a few markets. I have been seeing that Verizon is trying their PTT again. any input would be great...
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mathisa21

Apr 2, 2005, 3:13 PM
I wonder if the z500a will work with PTT?!
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:32 PM
PLEASE DONT REPLY TO NEXTEL18 ANY RESPONSE WILL GIVE HIM SOME FUEL TO TALK CRAP ABOUT HOW CINGULARS PTT WILL NEVER LIVE UP TO NEXTELS !
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 5:46 PM
Being that I know nobody even with Nextel. I have no reason to want Nextels PTT.
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sleekcat

Apr 2, 2005, 3:24 PM
I heard rumors back in November about Cingular getting PTT and asked about it not that long ago but haven't really gotten any information. I hope we do get it though. It will take away some of the competitive advantage that the other companies offering PTT have.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 3:28 PM
Can I ask a question without seeming stupid? What is the big friggin' deal about Push To Talk? I mean honestly, is it that hard to hold a conversation as a regular phone call. I mean this may just be my opinion, but I would just as soon get a phone with speaker phone on it and put my phone call on speakerphone then I would do the two way thing.. I mean more buttons to hit all the time and all, I just don't see the benefit for anyone other than people in construction or technical work, but even then I still don't see this huge advantage. I honestly see a bigger advantage with a bluetooth headset with a bluetooth phone because your phone can be in your pocket and then headset is on your ear... But then again, maybe it's just me. 😕
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Icyhot

Apr 2, 2005, 3:40 PM
Just another gadget on our phone to use Jackie. I prefer the Bluetooth method as well. Well already have cameras, mp3 players, video recorders, fm radios and others as well. So in my opinion its just another gadget.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 4:18 PM
I just find it obnoxious to be in a public place and force everyone to listen to your conversation... I mean it seems to me the people that are on the two way basically scream when they are on it. And the constant "chirp" just makes me crazy.
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 6:44 PM
Yeah, I know people who use it and it drives me crazy. Why would you want everyone around you to hear your convo anyway. 🙄
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sleekcat

Apr 3, 2005, 11:23 AM
I don't really like it either but I know that here is a market for PTT. A lot of people do feel it is annoying but as long as it is in demand it would be smart to offer PTT. Even just test it in one or two markets to determine wether it is actually worth launching nationwide.
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lordrevan05

Apr 4, 2005, 11:19 AM
🤣 🤣 I agree, only ignorant people want you to hear both sides of the damn conversation 👿
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:21 PM
I completely agree with you, Jackie. With the development of bluetooth headsets and speakerphone on cell phones, I really don't see the need for PTT. Other than something else to play with.
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chamelea

Apr 3, 2005, 1:03 AM
jramossteel said:
Can I ask a question without seeming stupid? What is the big friggin' deal about Push To Talk? I mean honestly, is it that hard to hold a conversation as a regular phone call. ... I just don't see the benefit for anyone other than people in construction or technical work, but even then I still don't see this huge advantage. 😕


LOL - agree completely!!! It's retrograde! ... enjoyed by a bunch of good 'ole boys longing to yuk it up w/Burt Reynolds ... c'mon back, Bandit?
🤣 🤣
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 12:59 PM
chamelea said:
jramossteel said:
Can I ask a question without seeming stupid? What is the big friggin' deal about Push To Talk? I mean honestly, is it that hard to hold a conversation as a regular phone call. ... I just don't see the benefit for anyone other than people in construction or technical work, but even then I still don't see this huge advantage. 😕


LOL - agree completely!!! It's retrograde! ... enjoyed by a bunch of good 'ole boys longing to yuk it up w/Burt Reynolds ... c'mon back, Bandit?
🤣 🤣

Okay, now that was pretty funny.
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HAND

Apr 4, 2005, 9:09 AM
Well said J, I agree, bluetooth or speakerphone for me!
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 3:42 PM
if you want push to talk get nextel.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 3:49 PM
And if I wanted to pay twice the price for their coverage..
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 3:52 PM
if you want to pay for cingular's delay be my guest.

how would you pay twice?

nextel's unlmited direct connect plans are from 35-200.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 4:06 PM
And why in the hell are you always here starting sh... oooppps crap. why not stay on nextels forum....
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:07 PM
i was just stating to that person. i am not starting anything, i was just stating the facts, my friend.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 4:21 PM
And half the places I go don't have any coverage So why would I want to.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:23 PM
becuase with 3k cell sites per year it will improve those coverages. maybe you will like when qchat will be available. i go all over and it works fine for me.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 4:38 PM
nextel18 said:
if you want push to talk get nextel.
Geeze. Here we go again.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:39 PM
i thought you said you werent going to talk to me? so far its twice. why cant you ever keep your word? i knew you were going to say something.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 4:46 PM
nextel18 said:
i thought you said you werent going to talk to me? so far its twice. why cant you ever keep your word? i knew you were going to say something.
You knew I was going to say something because basically you're shooting down Cingular's PTT without it even on the market yet. He asked how Cingular's PTT service was coming, and you responded "if you want PTT get Nextel". Why would you even say something like that in here? Wait for the service to be offered before bashing it.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:48 PM
why not? it will still be on a delay like verizon's new ptt over the REV O network. it will be bad regardless. again, if they want a true push to talk company they chose nextel then qchat with nextel/sprint if they like cdma in 2007.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 4:55 PM
nextel18 said:
why not? it will still be on a delay like verizon's new ptt over the REV O network. it will be bad regardless. again, if they want a true push to talk company they chose nextel then qchat with nextel/sprint if they like cdma in 2007.
Wait till 2007 to experience Qchat? People want solutions now, and they might not necessarily want to deal with Nextel's mediocre cell service. Let's just wait and see how Cingular's PTT service works first, okay?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:59 PM
people have solutions...

1. nextel
2. alltel
3. verizon
4. sprint

(thats the order it should be)

coming soon
5. nextel/sprint in 2007.
6. cingular/att wireless tba.

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i knocked on sprint's and verizon's roll out when it was rumored to come out and look how those went? terrible. verizon's new service is still terrible,however, it has improved. (becuase its over their DO system)
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:03 PM
nextel18 said:
people have solutions...

1. nextel
2. alltel
3. verizon
4. sprint

(thats the order it should be)

coming soon
5. nextel/sprint in 2007.
6. cingular/att wireless tba.

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i knocked on sprint's and verizon's roll out when it was rumored to come out and look how those went? terrible. verizon's new service is still terrible,however, it has improved. (becuase its over their DO system)

I've used Verizon's new PTT service between two separate counties and guess what? It's not terrible. It's a viable alternative to Nextel. Despite what you would say. But why on earth would you bash Cingular's PTT service before it arrives? We want you to explain that to us.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:06 PM
i tried verizon's new push to talk too and it was terrible. the set-up latency was around 2-3 seconds and during the call it was about pretty good but it went from not much latency to 2 seconds. too much of a delay. i am also seeing that when a few brokerage firms do channel checks and demo checks they say pretty much the same or similiar as i do.

why would i bash cingular? becuase i bashed verizon and sprint and they did terrible and i said that there was no point of them to roll it out becuase of m2m. cingular wont do well.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:10 PM
nextel18 said:
i tried verizon's new push to talk too and it was terrible. the set-up latency was around 2-3 seconds and during the call it was about pretty good but it went from not much latency to 2 seconds. too much of a delay. i am also seeing that when a few brokerage firms do channel checks and demo checks they say pretty much the same or similiar as i do.

why would i bash cingular? becuase i bashed verizon and sprint and they did terrible and i said that there was no point of them to roll it out becuase of m2m. cingular wont do well.

And guess what? I was in a Verizon store getting my phone replaced on Friday and tried out the new Kyocera 444 PTT handset and have a great, latency free conversation...
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:14 PM
if it works well, when i try it as well as big brokerage houses try it and they compare it to nextel and as do i, then i will say cingular will do well.

latency free? i dont think so. maybe during the intra call but not for the set-up.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:20 PM
nextel18 said:
if it works well, when i try it as well as big brokerage houses try it and they compare it to nextel and as do i, then i will say cingular will do well.

latency free? i dont think so. maybe during the intra call but not for the set-up.
The conversation was pretty much instantaneous...very quick. I didn't notice any difference from when I used Nextel a couple of years back.

"if it works well, when i try it as well as big brokerage houses try it and they compare it to nextel and as do i, then i will say cingular will do well."

Did you not just tell all of us that Cingular PTT would suck sight unseen? Now you're telling us you're willing to try it before making a decision?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:25 PM
wow. you are very selective. this is what i am saying let me repeat it for you so that you would understand.

MY OPINION IS AS FOLLOWS;

right now= my opinion, cingular will be bad when it rolls out.

when it rolls out= my opinion will still with that it will still be bad thus will stand stand till my trials show that cingular's push to talk system is good.

let me hope you understand that.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:31 PM
nextel18 said:

when it rolls out= my opinion will still with that it will still be bad thus will stand stand till my trials show that cingular's push to talk system is good.

let me hope you understand that.
Uh, no...I don't understand it as it is the most grammatically inept sentence I've ever read in my 34 years on this planet. And that's Earth in case you're confused.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:35 PM
34 years? wow. and your online? wow shows how much of a life you have by arguing with a 21 year old. come on dude. get out sometimes.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:41 PM
nextel18 said:
34 years? wow. and your online? wow shows how much of a life you have by arguing with a 21 year old. come on dude. get out sometimes.
I got out. I got out to a bar last night and didn't make it back in till 4am. Is that "out" enough for you? And since when was there an "age limit" for the internet? I'm nursing a hangover so go jump off a cliff.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:49 PM
having a hangover and typing very well? hmm i smell bologna and its not the sandwich.

there is no age limit for the internet it just proves that you have no life by being online at 34 and arguing with a 21 year old.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:56 PM
nextel18 said:
having a hangover and typing very well? hmm i smell bologna and its not the sandwich.

there is no age limit for the internet it just proves that you have no life by being online at 34 and arguing with a 21 year old.
How's it matter that you're 21 and I'm 34 and we're both on the internet? As for hangovers, I function pretty highly while experiencing one. I also spell, pronounce, read, punctuate, and rationalize far better than you. Because you know what? You're an idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:01 PM
ooo name calling. i like. you can spell well? wow i can too. hit f7 or press spell check at the end of this message. not a big deal. you def cant read well becuase i explain things 100 times to you and you dont understand it. you cant think either becuase your not bright when it comes to the wireless industry, nor the business world.

give it up already my friend.
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SBacklin

Apr 3, 2005, 11:21 AM
You can't spell, becuase is SPELLED "because"
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:13 PM
i dont care about spelling correctly 24/7 for all the forum nerds out there. sorry.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:05 PM
nextel18 said:
i dont care about spelling correctly 24/7 for all the forum nerds out there. sorry.
24/7? You've never spelled or used punctuation correctly EVER. In ANY of your posts. You'd better forget your BA/ITT/AA dreams 'cause you're an idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:29 PM
oo name calling. again, i dont want to spell correctly 24/7 and use correct punctuation especially online where you nerds exist. sorry. thats not my game.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:58 PM
nextel18 said:
oo name calling. again, i dont want to spell correctly 24/7 and use correct punctuation especially online where you nerds exist. sorry. thats not my game.
You "don't want to"? No. It's because you have no idea what spelling and grammar are. No one ever taught you how to read and write.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 8:00 PM
no... i am a poor person like you. i can say it anyway i want. "don't want to" or "dont want to" is the same thing. it means the same thing.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:20 PM
nextel18 said:
no... i am a poor person like you. i can say it anyway i want. "don't want to" or "dont want to" is the same thing. it means the same thing.
Nothing's the same without proper punctuation.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 5:00 AM
morning.... again, i dont care, about perfect punctuation. it doesnt bother me, but it seems to be bothering you for some reason. ITS THE INTERNET for gosh sakes.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:27 PM
Wow, Drama, you must have a hangover because you finally gave in and let him have it again. The only problem is that he will never understand. You are correct, sir, he is an idiot. And he also indirectly admitted that he has no clue on how the world works. None of us did at 21.

Just remember this: HE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 12:22 AM
SForsyth01 said:
Wow, Drama, you must have a hangover because you finally gave in and let him have it again. The only problem is that he will never understand. You are correct, sir, he is an idiot. And he also indirectly admitted that he has no clue on how the world works. None of us did at 21.

Just remember this: HE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!
I sure as hell didn't understand the world at 21, but you know what? I had common sense and I could spell and read pretty well...Nextel's as dumb as a brick in that regard. I just couldn't stand seeing him feed everybody in this forum crap.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:03 PM
Nextel is dumb as a brick in every regard.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:41 PM
21 year old arguing with people his own age. What's the difference. If he finds you to be a nuinsance then he does. And you bring this onto yourself, no purposefully chose you to fight with you are brought each of these disagreements and arguments to yourself.
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SBacklin

Apr 3, 2005, 11:20 AM
21......I seriously would've thought 12
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:11 PM
aww. thanks. i like the compliment.
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RUFF1415

Apr 2, 2005, 4:58 PM
How do you know this? Are you God? Are you the CEO of Cingular? Are you the technichian on the team that is working to release Cingular PTT?

If the delay on PTT is because of Verizon's Rev. O network, then why would Cingular's PTT be on a delay? If they are releasing PTT over their HSDPA network, which in fact is faster than Rev. O and Rev. A, then it in fact, would be faster than both Verizon's PTT and Sprint\Nextel's qChat.

Honestly, you need to think before you post your stupid guesses.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:01 PM
RUFF1415 said:
How do you know this? Are you God? Are you the CEO of Cingular? Are you the technichian on the team that is working to release Cingular PTT?

If the delay on PTT is because of Verizon's Rev. O network, then why would Cingular's PTT be on a delay? If they are releasing PTT over their HSDPA network, which in fact is faster than Rev. O and Rev. A, then it in fact, would be faster than both Verizon's PTT and SprintNextel's qChat.

Honestly, you need to think before you post your stupid guesses.
Nextel doesn't think about ANY of his responses. And I want EVERYbody to read how he thinks Cingular's PTT SUCKS before it even arrives. NONE of us know how well Cingular's PTT will work until it's on...
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:01 PM
on the cdma network its not good regardless cept for REV A and Qchat.

how do i know that? well becuase if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already. by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while, and no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s, especially since the fcc limits cell towers and its signals and power. i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s.

again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:06 PM
nextel18 said:
on the cdma network its not good regardless cept for REV A and Qchat.

how do i know that? well becuase if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already. by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while, and no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s, especially since the fcc limits cell towers and its signals and power. i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s.

again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
So, sight unseen you've already decided that Cingular PTT will suck, right?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:08 PM
exactly. now, we will see if thats the case when they roll it out.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:12 PM
nextel18 said:
exactly. now, we will see if thats the case when they roll it out.
So, wait...you've said that it will suck and then you say you'll wait till it comes out to decide if it sucks? Which is it Mr. Contradiction?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:16 PM
no. i am saying that it will be bad, but we will have to see if that is the case. thats not a contradiction. my opinion right now, is that it is bad. when it comes out and its not, then my mind will change.

no contradiction my friend. you just dont know how to read things correctly.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:24 PM
nextel18 said:
no. i am saying that it will be bad, but we will have to see if that is the case. thats not a contradiction. my opinion right now, is that it is bad. when it comes out and its not, then my mind will change.

no contradiction my friend. you just dont know how to read things correctly.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING TO US

"no. i am saying that it will be bad, but we will have to see if that is the case. thats not a contradiction. my opinion right now, is that it is bad. when it comes out and its not, then my mind will change."

That statement is the biggest contradiction you've ever made on this forum.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:28 PM
yea, you cant understand anything it seems like.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:34 PM
nextel18 said:
yea, you cant understand anything it seems like.
That's because you're a nimrod.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:37 PM
34 years old and name calling? wow how mature.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:38 PM
And how old are you might we all ask?
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:44 PM
jramossteel said:
And how old are you might we all ask?
He's 21, which means he was 8 when Nextel was first offering it's PTT service. And remember...he was using it back then so he knows.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:45 PM
i am 21.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:30 PM
It is very hard to understand the most contradictory statement written in the history of phonescoop.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:35 PM
nice!!!!!
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RUFF1415

Apr 2, 2005, 5:14 PM
Do you realize you're contradicting yourself?

"well because if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already"

They haven't even rolled out HSDPA yet, which you obviously know according to this:

"by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while"

You don't have to tell me this, but you're not exactly right. Cingular is skipping upgrading their network to UMTS and is going straight to upgrading all of their towers and software with HSDPA. That means that since they were projecting end of 2005 for UMTS, its now end of 2005 for HSDPA.

"no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s...i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s."

Cingular's test market in Atlanta has already reached speeds that fast. There have been press releases abo...
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:19 PM
those speeds were in closed. meaning that it was in a closed area, and that it wasnt nationwide on the network meaning speeds should get dilouted as more people use it. i belive ev-do rev o was tested at over 3mb/s and no one is even hitting that. verizon is advertising 300-600kb/s.

thus; umts/hsdpa should be dilouted too.

of course i have no idea, but i am allowed to make predictions. again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:25 PM
nextel18 said:
those speeds were in closed. meaning that it was in a closed area, and that it wasnt nationwide on the network meaning speeds should get dilouted as more people use it. i belive ev-do rev o was tested at over 3mb/s and no one is even hitting that. verizon is advertising 300-600kb/s.

thus; umts/hsdpa should be dilouted too.

of course i have no idea, but i am allowed to make predictions. again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
That's "diluted", idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:29 PM
back to the name calling? how mature.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:34 PM
nextel18 said:
back to the name calling? how mature.
Yeah, I've decided I don't give a damn if I'm banned for life...you're literally that annoying.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:37 PM
aww. what about going out? getting a life?
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:45 PM
nextel18 said:
aww. what about going out? getting a life?
I love how you resort to this when we've proven you wrong and you're upset.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:51 PM
i am upset? hahahahahah that is quite funny. i am very happy. if i am proven wrong then i am wrong, i dont take it to heart like you do.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:59 PM
nextel18 said:
i am upset? hahahahahah that is quite funny. i am very happy. if i am proven wrong then i am wrong, i dont take it to heart like you do.
Do you undertand how many people have proven you wrong on this site and how many people truly hate you?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:03 PM
wow!! big deal. its a forum it doesnt mean such a big deal to me, unlike it does to you. sorry my friend i actually have a life besides for the forum and the internet unlike you..
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:33 PM
You have yet to prove any of us wrong, so how would you know if we take it to heart like you have shown that you do.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:36 PM
oh, i have. you just arent looking out there.

yawwnnn.....
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:41 PM
Ok, Whatever, idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:42 PM
now, name calling? hahah how mature.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:46 PM
starting flame wars....also very mature.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:49 PM
with who? hahaha. you are the one who is calling me a liar. thus; you are starting the flame war.

wow you are so insensitive and un real.

cant fathem that someone had a cell phone at 15. you call them a liar, becuase you dont belive them. then you call them names.

you dont have to cry about it seriously. its not a big deal to have a cell phone at 15. lol

wow.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:53 PM
Just look around at all of the people that hate you and tell you that you are posting inaccurate information. That posting of incorrect information is what starts flame wars, but you wouldn't understand that because you are a spoiled brat who has always gotten his way with everything.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:55 PM
wow, a forum of online peoples hates me. wow!!! such a big deal. my forum friends dont like me. oh no. now i should cry... oh get real. i post informative information, but again most people cant handle it becuase most of the information is against their carrier.


aww, thanks for the compliment.
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RUFF1415

Apr 2, 2005, 5:35 PM
It's enclosed, and no they weren't.

Cingular's HSDPA test network covers the entire city of Atlanta and some of the surroudning area. What do you think they did, created a whole entire HSDPA network to use one phone to make one phone call? Cingular has HSDPA phones and network cards throughout the entire city and data speeds STILL hit those highs. I don't doubt that the speed will drop somewhat after it is released nationally, but don't make it out like the speeds are going to be so much slower that they'll be sitting still.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:45 PM
the speeds will be diminished though. thats the point. it wont be 14mb/s like they are mentioning. it will be the same thing like the initial ev-do tests to what it is being advertised now. i would probably say that cingular's network would be around 3-5mb/s. nothing in this world especially when it comes to speeds is every advertised to be when it comes out nationwide. everyone knows that.

again, i will belive it will hit 3-5mb/s if they are lucky. remember speeds dimish if they are away from the cell site. notice why they say "theoretical maximum speeds".

look at this... http://www.convergedigest.com/Daily/daily.asp ?vn=v11n229&fecha=12%2F1%2F2004#Cingular%20Wi reless%20Announces%203G%20Plans "Cingular Wireless Announces 3G Plans
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:46 PM
where do yo live ?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:52 PM
hahahahah. i dont think so my friend. if you want to keep threatening me keep it up then you will be reported. have you noticed that threatening is a TOS violation?
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:58 PM
what ever i like this forum but people like you ruin it for cingular employees like me
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:02 PM
well just becuase i show facts and information that effects cingular you shouldnt be taking it so seriously.

what do you do for cingular if i may ask?
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:04 PM
i asked first
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:05 PM
i asked first? hahah thats first grade talk.

no you first, no you no you first, no you go first. oh grow up my friend, and your calling me a child? lol hahahha.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:27 PM
No we are ppointing out that the many times we have asked you about yourself you continually dodge our questions.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:29 PM
i already told what i do, and if i wont go into details i wont.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:33 PM
No you kinda beat around the bush. You said "consulting". As for that. you still have not stated where besides the northeast... AND oh the northeast comprises of quite an area so that is also vague and dodging the question. I have learned that you are good at that.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:36 PM
i answered it 100 times. i said where i live. look. by the way i dont have to tell you exactly what i do. i told you the broad thing and thats all i will tell you. sorry.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:39 PM
So dodging... Which is fine... It reassures me of how much you can be trusted. Also having a hard time finding anything about Nextel 6 years ago, even on their own site because their archives only go back to 2000. But I will get it and then i want you to apologize for insinuating that I am lying.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:44 PM
dodging? i already said how old i was, where i worked for, what i have ties with corp, consulting etc.. and things like that. how is that dodging? i answered all of your questions.

i wont insult you for saying that you are lying becuase people sometimes are mistaken, just like i was with roll over. its not a big deal. i never called you a liar i said you were mistaken. you tkae things so out of context its not even funny.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:46 PM
NO you are telling me I did not experience something that I know I did... Big difference between being mistaken and being told you are a liar.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:47 PM
i never said liar. again, i had nextel for 6 years so far and 6 years ago i didnt have the 2-3 second delay that you are stating. just admit it your wrong. it is ok too be wrong. i was wrong about rollover.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 6:49 PM
nextel18 said:
it is ok too be wrong.

Justifying your existence?

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:52 PM
i feel bad for you my friend. 😢 😢 😢
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 6:54 PM
And why is that? Because I have a better developed wit? Because I make points that have a point? Because I bring forth CORRECT information? Because I've traveled the globe as much as you? Because I have my integrity? You're right. I feel sorry for me too.

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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speck

Apr 2, 2005, 6:56 PM
Prolong exposure to high quantities of radiation?

Just thought you missed one speedy... 😛
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:57 PM
no becuase you are a sad individual. i make points also, and i bring forth correct information. you have nothing, my friend sorry.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:53 PM
And the same applies to you right?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:55 PM
of course. if i am wrong, then you are right and then i will honor your statment.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:56 PM
And same for me but until you can prove to me, and the other people in here that are stating you are wrong, that you are right... The same applies. Thank you
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:58 PM
well you have to prove your statment of nextel's dc 6 years ago or so was 2-3 second delay. its up to you, my friend. you have the burden of proof. if you cant find it that means you are wrong.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:03 PM
Why is it that I must find it or I am wrong.... WHy isn't that you must find it or you are wrong... It's a catch 22, my friend.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 7:05 PM
becuase you said it. so its the burden of proof. just like lets say a DA says that someone commited a crime. its on the DA's side to prove it. thus; same with you.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:08 PM
But you are saying the delay is under a second where is your proof... both are circumstantial.. So, no, I believe that if you want anyone on here to think you are credible I would find your information.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:28 PM
October 2003
Good Housekeeping selects Nextel's Nationwide Direct ConnectSM walkie-talkie service as most reliable for emergency communications.

Nextel and Motorola introduce the Motorola i205, a GPS-enabled mobile phone that allows users to instantly communicate from coast-to-coast at the touch of a button using Nextel's Nationwide Direct Connect.SM

http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/company_hi ... »

Okay so article number one... This states that 10/03 was the first instant connection.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 7:30 PM
now your switching it around on me? hahaha. how pathetic.



http://www.forbes.com/businesstech/2004/02/03/cx_al_ ... »

In the past two years, Nextel's (nasdaq: NXTL - news - people ) Direct Connect service--a nationwide walkie-talkie system that allows multiple users to connect at the push of a button--has been a hit with companies and government agencies involved in national security

Indeed, both financial and industry analysts agree that Nextel's service is superior. It takes about a second to establish a connection on Direct Connect, compared with two to nine seconds on other services.

http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-1011687.html?tag=tec ... »

average latency is a second, Caplan said


http://wirelessreview.com/ »...
(continues)
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:33 PM
Neither is what I posted...But where are the dates? All three of those articles are in the past 2 years... We are talking 6 years back, remember?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 7:35 PM
i thought you wanted me to prove that its sub second now. sorry i miss-read you.

by the way i remember the phone i had which was the i1000 phone. that was about released in sept/oct of 1998 which is about 7 years from now and i used that phone and i didnt have any latency.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:42 PM
Maybe its the phone then but they all had (and by all I mean the 36 he had) were i600's.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 7:49 PM
the phone that i had and my dad had when we got it was the i1000, and i had no latency what-so-ever.

maybe it was the i600 but came out in january 1998. but it still says no where about any latencies over 2-3 seconds and i have looked everywhere.

dude, just give it up.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 7:52 PM
Why should I give it up... You are saying I am wrong... Not to mention that I came up with closer proof than you did... I gave you the first phone that they carried with "instant connection" as per their standards you give it up.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 8:17 PM
closer proof? hahahahah. you are wrong.

here is something...

http://www.nextel.com/services/dc_testimonials.pdf »

“Direct Connect is the greatest piece of communication
since light and time. I use it with all of my family
members and in my trucks for dispatching. Direct Connect
is fast and reliable. There’s no waiting ... you don’t have to
be put on hold, all answers are instant. I don’t worry about
competition; I have them beat.”
— Freddie Webb, Raven Transport Co., Inc., NC

“We started using Nextel Direct Connect in 1994 as a
secondary form of communication between dispatchers
and couriers. After the first few months, we realized there
was no need for any other type of two-way service. Nextel
Direct Connect has proven...
(continues)
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 6:05 PM
Nextel what general area do you live???
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:06 PM
north east.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 6:08 PM
How far norht? (state)
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:11 PM
didnt i say it before?
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:28 PM
no you haven't stated what state you live in.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:31 PM
oh, i didnt. i thought i did. anyway i am from mass.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 6:37 PM
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:42 PM
are you ok? i know what my own coverage area is.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:07 PM
if you must know i am a customer care manager in grayson ky would you like my name as well
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:08 PM
no, i just wanted to know what you do, thats all. i dont care for your area or name, just what you do.

my question to you is that why is the average hold for cingular 5-7 mins?
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RUFF1415

Apr 2, 2005, 5:51 PM
That is with the first HSDPA chipsets that will be availble. The interesting thing is, the speeds you recieve will depend greatly on the chipset. Faster chipsets will be released, don't you doubt it.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:38 PM
i wish i could see you in person i shove a nextel phone up your ass!
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:46 PM
hahaha. thats funny. threatening online? how nice.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:50 PM
how bout we scrap it out and whoever wins cant post here any more ....id love to get rid of your poor misinformed propagandist ass
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:53 PM
we scrap it out? what does that mean?
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 5:57 PM
you know what i mean ..why dont you stay in your forum we dont go to yours and start crap so show us the same respect we show you
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:00 PM
i show respect to everyone cept if people insult me.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:01 PM
what ever you are a child obviously. by the way what great service do you preform for nextel ?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:04 PM
yea, i am 21 i am still a child and still room to grow with wealth and knowledge. all i can say to you is that i have ties and do many things for nextel especially in my area.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:05 PM
well good for you how does it feel to work for a company that has never turned a profit
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:07 PM
never turned a profit? hahahahhahaha what do they have now? free cash flow, positive eps, net debt down, cash up.

come on buddy. seriously. know your facts before you speak.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:08 PM
ok call motorolla to pay the bills my bad
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:10 PM
actually if you do know this, which you dont, nextel is motorola's biggest client.

atleast please know what you are talking about. you did well till you said that nextel isnt profitable. stay with the things you know please.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:14 PM
who built your company ? moto who is the major holder of your company ? moto
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:19 PM
who built nextel? i wouldnt say motorola built it. i would say the tech's and engineers as well as the fcc and motorola for selling/leasing spectrum and iden to nextel. major holder of nextel? actually its legg mason and Fidelity . motorola owns approx 9 percent of nextel's outstanding shares or approx 83 million shares.

leg mason and Fidelity owns about 220 million shares of nextel or 21 percent of nextel's outstanding shares.

so your wrong.
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simplymarcus

Apr 2, 2005, 4:48 PM
Don't bother with nextel18 he is hater. He bashes cingular a lot in every forum he needs help.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:50 PM
hater? ahhaha. no son, i speak the truth and facts. they have mobile to mobile, there would be no sense of having both, especially since they wont do that well. verizon, and sprint did terrible. cingular will do the same.
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crashnbrn3

Apr 2, 2005, 4:54 PM
....And Nextel has half the coverage area Cingular does..
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 4:57 PM
well, they should, they just bought out att wireless.

and half? lets see

cingular= 270 million people it covers

so that means that nextel should cover 135 million people?

well think again..

nextel= 261 million people.

(according to their web sites)

so your wrong.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 5:03 PM
You are talking about POP's. That is entirely different than coverage. Nextel can't claim largest anything now, except for iDen phone selection. 😛

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:07 PM
i know i was talking about POPS. they COVER those people which means coverage.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 5:11 PM
No it doesn't. That's why POPs are not listed on a coverage map. If all of your POPs (200 million hypothetically speaking) were in Texas, you would have a 200 million POP, but your coverage would be just the State of Texas. POP does not equal coverage. Coverage is synonomous with "calling area" not "mobile-to-mobile community."

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:13 PM
speedywalk said:
No it doesn't. That's why POPs are not listed on a coverage map. If all of your POPs (200 million hypothetically speaking) were in Texas, you would have a 200 million POP, but your coverage would be just the State of Texas. POP does not equal coverage. Coverage is synonomous with "calling area" not "mobile-to-mobile community."

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
Speed...you are the light in the darkness, my friend. Perfect post.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:15 PM
alright my friend. think what you want to.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:21 PM
He works in the industry... Do you? We know these things. And no offense probably a little better than you do.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:26 PM
i already told you, i worked in the industry and i have ties to the industry. i talk to tech people, IR people, execs almost every day.

i know these things too.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:32 PM
Who do you work for? Nextel? And where then? Just so we can know what areas you are talking about...
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:36 PM
i used to work with nextel and sprint for 2-3 years in sales and in the customer care areas. in the north east. now i have ties with corpw with different companies and the things i have just mentioned.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:43 PM
nextel18 said:
i used to work with nextel and sprint for 2-3 years in sales and in the customer care areas. in the north east. now i have ties with corpw with different companies and the things i have just mentioned.
Ties with corporate? A monkey at a mall kiosk has "ties with corporate" because of his direct contact with his manager. I have "corporate ties" with my headquarters because of conference calls. What "corporate ties" are you talking about? We think you're lying to us. Again.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:50 PM
yes, ties with corp. do i have to repeat that 100 times for you to understand that? should i speak in "monkey" terms since you called me a monkey?

think of it. you have a brain.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:57 PM
nextel18 said:
yes, ties with corp. do i have to repeat that 100 times for you to understand that? should i speak in "monkey" terms since you called me a monkey?

think of it. you have a brain.
The only corporate ties you have with Nextel are when your third party wireless vendor manager comes over to your local mall and berates you for being an idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:01 PM
aww. jealous are we? that a 21 year old is more successful then you? so sad.. wahhhh wahhhh baby baby!!!!!! hahaha. give it up already.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 6:07 PM
If you're so successful, and you've got such good connections, wouldn't you be proud to associate yourself with it? Quit pulling a KingFrog and tell us what you do. The cleaning lady in our building that comes in on Tuesday and Thursday has "ties to the industry." I don't care if you're "more successful" I care that I have a higher mastery of the higher thought processes than you seem to exhibit!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:09 PM
you should have a higher thought process you older than i am and i have just begun. i am extremly proud of myself and what i have done.
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THE BOX

Apr 2, 2005, 6:10 PM
done what ? what have you done that is great tell me please
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:15 PM
been very successful when i worked for nextel and sprint. i am very successful now with my investments. very successful and met a lot of people in corp and have ties and i have been successful then too becuase i know this area very well so they call me to assist them. i guess like a consultant. traveled all over the world but greece, but i will go there this year, oh yea, and have property.

so for being 21 i am very successful. have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA.

so i am successful.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:26 PM
I don't know why.. but I feel as if you are not completely honest with us. 😕
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:28 PM
no reason to lie on here my friend. i am not trying to impress anyone. its just me and my accomplishments. you should be happy for me, but obviously your jealous and not. i guess that is ok. many people are.

anyway, nextel was never at 2-3 second latency 6 years ago. sorry.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:32 PM
What do I have to be jealous about... I am very successful at what I do. As for for the 2-3 second latency... I am reading up on those right now... That's why I haven't posted that much in the past hour... You try to make all of us listen to what you say and claim that you don't deal with immaturity but belittling people that might not be as successful as you is truly ignorant. Andyway to that, I will go again and keep researching.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:35 PM
if you find something that says 2-3 second latency that happened 6-7+ years ago post it then i will belive it. just dont make up things that you think might have happened but didnt.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:36 PM
I won't result to saying that you are lying because I don't do that but I know what my father's company experienced. I worked in his office while going to school. So please stop referring to me as a liar.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:40 PM
i never called you a liar. you probably have mistaken. again, i have been with nextel for 6 years and no delay of that sort that you claimed what-so-ever.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 6:43 PM
So since you were 15? And indirectly you are by stating that I am wrong... You are in an area different from mine so you could be wrong. Right?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 6:46 PM
yes, i had nextel since i was i was 15. obviously not under mine name but my dad's name.

". You are in an area different from mine so you could be wrong. Right?"

i could be but i highly doubt it. it would be consistant nationwide.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 3, 2005, 4:36 PM
Then how come their coverage isnt consistant nationwide? Some people haven't had coverage problems on other parts of the country, but I have and so have many others that I know. How come that good coverage others have had wasnt consistant all the way to my area?

There's no such thing as good consistant coverage. If that was true, there'd never be any coverage problems and so on.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:04 PM
coverage wont be consistant nationwide with any carrier, let alone with nextel. nextel doesnt focus a lot of rural areas and places like that. they focus on where a lot of people are. with 3k cell sites per year plus they will start to fill in those gaps.


if you want coverage everywhere get a satelite phone.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 3, 2005, 6:35 PM
EXACTLY, you just admitted it's not consistant, therefore Jackie's statement is completely true when she says that she may have had the problem in her area and you didnt in yours. There is no consistancy, therefore it could have been the case. End of discussion 😉
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:48 PM
exactly? yea the coverage isnt consistant everywhere, but the direct connect is consistant everywhere. (especially if there is atleast 1 bar on your phone) whose jackie?
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:11 PM
nextel18 said:
exactly? yea the coverage isnt consistant everywhere, but the direct connect is consistant everywhere. (especially if there is atleast 1 bar on your phone) whose jackie?
That's "Who's Jackie?". Didn't you pay attention in grade school when all the other children were taught to read and write? Jackie's someone you shouldn't concern yourself with as she, and we, hate your guts.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:33 PM
what a stupid thing. i asked who was jackie. i dont know who she is on here. wow you are pathetic. oh wow, online forum losers hate my guts!!! wow!!!! that scares me!!!! grow up.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:03 PM
nextel18 said:
what a stupid thing. i asked who was jackie. i dont know who she is on here. wow you are pathetic. oh wow, online forum losers hate my guts!!! wow!!!! that scares me!!!! grow up.
You shouldn't be frightened. You should be saying to yourself "All these fine people laugh and scorn me whenever I open my mouth...maybe I should take a look at myself and figure out why this is so". But, no, you won't...because you're too stupid.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 8:05 PM
oo name calling? what happened to rich saying that your not allowed to do that anymore? dont listen to him either? thats a shame.

i shouldnt be saying anything to myself about people like you. means nothing for people like you to insult me. nothing!!
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 3, 2005, 10:49 PM
You called all of them "Online forum losers"... That's name calling as well, so don't be such a hypocrite. 🙂
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:07 AM
morning. but all of you guys started to attack me first 🙂 so i will attack back 🙂 😛 😛
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 8:41 AM
I never attacked you, I know others have.

But if you decide to attack back, don't go around saying people are attacking you. Its very hypocritical. 😛
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:00 AM
i never said you have attacked me. i have a right to defend myself, and i am attacking becuase i have been attacked. its defending really, not exactly attacking.

if they would stop attacking me, then there would be no need to attack them back and defend myself.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 11:02 AM
Do what you will.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:10 AM
i know.. i will.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 3, 2005, 10:52 PM
Yes exactly. And what happens when you dont have that one bar? Then it's no longer consistant. 🙂 Meaning, not even direct connect is consistant.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:12 AM
morning.. if you have 1 bar or barely one bar, but it doesnt say no service, it will still work the same as it did if you had full service. example, i was in nyc a few months ago, and in this one area i only got from 0-1 bar and when i was Dcing, i had no latency. (even with 0-1 bars) as long as it doesnt say no service, or on the TX status atleaast -100 to maybe -105 or -110 you will be able to DC.

thus; direct connect is consistant. but obviously if you have no service it wont work, unless you have off network push to talk.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 8:40 AM
LISTEN to what I said.

When I was with Nextel, I needed at least THREE BARS otherwise it WOULDNT WORK. I KNOW what I experienced. 1-2 bars DIDNT cut it.

Im glad it worked for you with less than 3 bars, but as for me, it didn't. It obviously has something to do with the market area.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:01 AM
that is quite interesting. you dont need 3 bars to work direct connect since it uses about 1/25th of the cell site/spectrum/freq etc.. i know you didnt experience that. you shouldnt be making things up its not right.

again, if you have atleast 0-1 bar (and does not say no service) your direct connect should always work.

by the way, what market were you in?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 11:06 AM
The thing is, I'm not making a single thing up, and I can have my cousin and 2 of my friends who also had Nextel sign up on Phone Scoop and tell you the same thing for they experienced the same exact problems, among alot of other problems with Nextel, which is why we all payed our early termination fees and got the hell out of Nextel in search of something that would service our needs alot better. My cousin went to Verizon, my one friend and I went to Cingular, and my other friend went to T-Mobile. I have yet to hear a complaint from one of them, as they have yet to hear a complaint from me.

I have no reason to make a thing up, if you choose not to believe me, that's your business, but I know what I experienced.

I live in Chicago,...
(continues)
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:10 AM
yea, i simply dont belive you with that whole ATLEAST 2-3 bars for DC. In chicago, nextel works pretty good so you shouldnt have had any problems.

by the way, again, as long as you have atleast 1 bar or it doesnt say no service with 0 bars you can make direct connect calls, however, with regular calling it will be extremly difficult.

for example, i was in NYC one of the heaviest markets with capacity problems, and i had 0-1 bar and i could DC fine and with no delay etc..

nyc has a bigger problem with capacity then chicago does, and if in nyc you can dc with atleast 0-1 bars your Atleast 2-3 bars is flawed and not true.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 11:11 AM
Well, you can call it untrue, but I know what I along with 3 other people experienced.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:21 AM
yea, i doubt it to be honest. i HIGHLY doubt it. if in nyc you can do 0-1 and as long as it doesnt say no service and there is the highest problems with capacity then in chicago you wouldnt need ATLEAST 2-3 bars to DC.

makes no sense my friend.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 12:31 PM
Sure it makes sense. But you're too closed-minded to understand just because something works perfect in one place, that it won't in every place. It's obvious you lack knowledge of techonolgy, not just iDEN, but technology period. Nothing is consistent and I'm sure you've heard the term, Results May Vary. Which they always will, no matter what way you look at it or think it.

Expand your horizons 'my friend'.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:35 PM
it is very consistent, my friend. by the way i had 0-1 bar here in mass for a few seconds and i dced my friend and it was fine. by the way when you direct connect someone usually and most often the "bar"s go up becuase when your connected to a tower you will be more prority which means YOUR SINGAL will get better. usually if you have 0-2 bars when your not in direct connect and after your in dc calling you should be atleast 3-4 bars, becuase of from being idle to becoming active on that cell site.

dont make things up please
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 12:38 PM
lol I'm sorry for being honest, and I'm sorry if you don't think that I in reality had this problem, but I did have this problem lol.

If I was going to make up something bad about bad service, I would have made it alot jucier than that. If you'd like, my brother to this day still has that problem with his Nextel phone, if you ever are in the Chicago area, let me know, we'll meet up, and I'll be more than happy to prove you wrong 🙂
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:42 PM
yea, most people would make up things about the service, becuase they dont like them. ( dont worry i did that with sprint after i left them)

your not honest. again, i just did it with 0-1 bars and it worked fine. i dont think you understand the purpose of direct connect and how much signal you can use so that it can DC. especially with my example with nyc for you and about the example with the whole situation with idling and dcing.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 12:45 PM
Okay, you're doing it on YOUR phone in YOUR market. There is no such think as consistany... which brings me back to the old saying, "Results May Vary".

Just because you make things up about carriers, doesn't mean everyone does.

Like I said, if you're ever in Chicago, let me know, we'll meet up and I'll prove you wrong. 🙂 It'll be a breeze to do so.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:47 PM
no i am not doing it consistantly in my market. when i go to nyc, nj, cali, miami, penn, col, i never have problems with latency and with the 2-3 bars that you say YOU ATLEAST NEED TO DIRECT CONNECT. its not true.

i never make up anything about other carriers.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 12:50 PM
Okay, when you go come to Chicago, you'll be sure to see the problem yourself. If not, I'll be more than happy to demonstrate for you. It'll be a breeze.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:58 PM
if i have business to do up in chicago or what not, then maybe i will go. again, if nyc and LA are very heavy areas and same with boston (all though i dont really live in the city, but i do go there a lot) and i can still DC with 0-1 bars your theory of atleast 2-3 is wrong.

sorry.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 1:03 PM
You are forgiven! 😁
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:17 PM
aww thanks...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 1:17 PM
You're welcome! 😁
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:23 PM
can i have a cookie now? i like chocolate chip!
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 1:25 PM
Sorry, no cookies for you! Only good people deserve cookies! 😁
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:41 PM
but, i am good.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 4, 2005, 1:42 PM
In who's opinion? 😳
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:50 PM
with my real friends, and others. just not on here, becuase people on here take things wayyy to seriously.
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:02 PM
nextel18 said:
yea, most people would make up things about the service, becuase they dont like them. ( dont worry i did that with sprint after i left them)
situation with idling and dcing.


nextel18 said:
no i am not doing it consistantly in my market. when i go to nyc, nj, cali, miami, penn, col, i never have problems with latency and with the 2-3 bars that you say YOU ATLEAST NEED TO DIRECT CONNECT. its not true.

i never make up anything about other carriers.


Oxymoron
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:16 PM
how is that an oxymoron? lol...
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:26 PM
Two opposites...you stated one thing then the exact opposite.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:42 PM
stated what.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 2:46 PM
Let me ask this... Not to get into a debate with you about things again... BUT why is it just because someone's experience differs from yours they are wrong? Could it just be that is what they experience, and its different. 😕
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:48 PM
no. its not. its becuase they are wrong. he just doesnt know facts. i also gave him the 3 biggest markets that i was in and that i was able to direct connect with 0-1 bars and his ATLEAST 2-3 bars that is needed in Chicago, which isnt that big of a market is flawed.

if nyc, cali, boston can have 0-1 and DC can go through, Chicago doesnt need 2-3 to go through. that was the point.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 3:41 PM
My point is that if you have never been there how do you assume on is wrong? Just like you were not in Feasterville PA with me in 1998, so how can you assume that I was wrong? Just understand that even on Nextels' brochure they do not guarentee service, NO ONE DOES, because that would bring up too many lawsuits.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:50 PM
the point is... that other person said that in chicago you need 3-4 bars ATLEAST to have a dc call go through, but with nyc the highiest problems with capacity you can have 0-1 bar and dc will work shows his theory to be flawed. with direct connect its instant.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 4:03 PM
I think that he said 2-3 and until you are there and using it... It's best not to assume because you know what that does, right?
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:09 PM
no, he was saying that in his area you need ATLEAST 2-3 bars to use direct connect and to actually connect. which isnt true what-so-ever. as long as you have 0-1 bars or no service you can make DC calls.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 4:14 PM
I think you are wrong... How are you going to prove it to me?
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:16 PM
becuase i have done it myself. in cali, boston, nyc, florida etc... NYC was extremly difficult becuase the towers dont cover a lot of the areas but i will still able to DC and it was pure and clean and instant.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 4:20 PM
Nope, still think you are wrong.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:42 PM
thats your loss.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 4:47 PM
Nope... I feel no loss at all.. Thanks though.
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nextel18

Apr 5, 2005, 7:40 AM
you should, becuase cingular will never have a decent push to talk system.
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muchdrama

Apr 5, 2005, 8:45 AM
nextel18 said:
you should, becuase cingular will never have a decent push to talk system.
Sure. And you would know that from the mall kiosk you work at. "Excuse me, Sir...while you're passing by would you like to try a Nextel phone and service? Sir? Sir!!??".
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nextel18

Apr 5, 2005, 5:16 PM
your pathetic my friend.
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speck

Apr 5, 2005, 5:27 PM
Choice words...
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nextel18

Apr 5, 2005, 5:43 PM
its true..............................
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jramossteel

Apr 5, 2005, 9:23 AM
You should feel a loss as well, being as that you have no cellular service, just a glorified walkie-talkie.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 6:44 PM
Couldn't be farther from the truth. We started carrying Nextel at CompUSA around 2000 and we quit for a nice stretch because in our market the delay was bad enough that we kept getting them returned. It wasn't 1 second, and I'm not saying it was 6 either. I just now it was latency, and they were returned. We did pick them back up when the latency was corrected in our area about a year-and-a-half later.

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:33 PM
I used to work at CompUSA and we never got them for the same reason your store dropped them. The stores in my region still have not picked them up yet.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 11:12 PM
yea. sure. i dont belive that one min. sorry.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:02 PM
Whateveer....I can show you my resume, as well as give you references at CompUSA from when I worked there....that is if you actually mattered to me. But you are simply a ****y spoiled rich brat, so I am not going to waste my time with you.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:05 PM
awww. i thank you for your compliment. thank you.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 11:11 PM
yea, i highly doubt it. again, in 2001 the latency was very good. keep dreaming my friend. again it doesnt matter if you store picked it up, i know for a fact nextel's direct connect was sub second latency. i know probably when they first launched it in 1995 or 1996 there were problems but as it progressed the latency went down.

sorry, my friend, you are mistaken.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 11:27 PM
they had nationwide direct connect in 2000 and that was extremly successful. so your latency claim is false.



and your market "delay" doesnt mean nationwide it had a delay which it didnt. it has always been sub 1 sec latency, cept the time they started it in 1995 approx.


sorry.
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speedywalk

Apr 3, 2005, 12:31 PM
nextel18 said:
they had nationwide direct connect in 2000 and that was extremly successful. so your latency claim is false.

Wow. How about this directly from Nextel's own webpage:
NEXTEL said:
In August 2003, Nextel was the first to provide coast-to-coast walkie-talkie service with Nationwide Direct Connect

Don't believe me?
http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/profile.shtml »
It's listed under Product Innovation.


This simple arrogance is what makes you look like the fool you truly are. And you wonder why we want you to prove that the service WAS that way, coast-to-coast, which, as noted in my previous findings (all of 30 seconds of research), was not the case. Th...
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:08 PM
i read it wrong, buddy. i put in google that and it showed 2000 but i didnt read the article right becuase it stated 2003. dont be an idiot.
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speedywalk

Apr 4, 2005, 11:36 AM
First, a flashback:
speedywalk said:
nextel18 said:
they had nationwide direct connect in 2000 and that was extremly successful. so your latency claim is false.

Wow. How about this directly from Nextel's own webpage:
NEXTEL said:
In August 2003, Nextel was the first to provide coast-to-coast walkie-talkie service with Nationwide Direct Connect

Don't believe me?
http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/profile.shtml »
It's listed under Product Innovation.


This simple arrogance is what makes you look like the fool you truly are. And you wonder why we want you to prove that the service WAS that way, coast-to-coast, which, as noted in my previous find
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:38 AM
yea, you are exactly like much. you 2 dont know how to move on what was said to the next thing. this is the thing that i said after you posted your post. I SAID THAT I READ THE DATE WRONG ON THE ARTICLE and FROM SEARCHING ON GOOGLE WITH THAT DATE. that is the last time i will say it becuase you cant budge from that gear. move on already.
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speedywalk

Apr 4, 2005, 11:48 AM
Actually, the problem is that you don't know anything about debate.

If you base your entire argument on something that is incorrect, that means that your argument is base on a false claim. In a literary/logical sense this is what we call a "false premise agrument." Take this for example:

Because the earth's sky is red, and water is blue, it follows that all skies are red and all water is blue.

How incorrect is that? We know the sky is blue, not red here on earth. Therefore, the argument is false. Let's try this one out:

Nextel had their nationwide PTT network with less that 1 second response time by 2000.

Let's examine this closer:

Nextel had their nationwide PTT . . . by 2000.

Wrong. They didn't. Therefore the ENTIRE ar...
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 11:53 AM
oh wow. how many times do i have to say this? well, this time i am not going to say it again, becuase it cant get through to you.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 11:56 AM
OMG!!! This thread is still ALIVE?!?!?! 😳

Good explanation Speedy, but honestly it's not going to make a bit of difference. Why? Because this dude's a Troll!

Nextel18, that's not an insult, nor is it technically name calling. It's a term for what you're doing here with this thread. The original post was to ask about Cingular's PTT testing. You decided to interject an opinion that you knew would incite what has amounted to a load of garbage. That's trolling, that makes you a board troll.

No one seems to think that your info is helpful, inciteful, or even wanted from what I can tell. In short, to quote a great man: "If you've got nothing nice to say, SHUT THE F UP!"
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:01 PM
yea, but it also can be about cingular's competition which is nextel. so i just stated a fact.

by the way, he doesnt want to get over the point and fact that i said i made a mistake about the reading about the article and google 100 times. he wont go over it.
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speedywalk

Apr 4, 2005, 12:17 PM
That's because the incorrect information is the basis of your agrument. That's why cannot refute what I am trying to say. You simply cannot adimit you are wrong. Since the premise of your arument is wrong, your entire point is null and void. Drop every claim you are making and stay out of the Cingular forum.

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:20 PM
wow, you are quite pathetic. move on already.

last time lets see if you get it this time.

1. i made a mistake with the google search and it said that then i clicked on the link then i didnt read the date on the article.

conclusion; I READ IT WRONG!!! it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot. move on already. gas is in the car, the steering wheel is working, just change that gear.
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speedywalk

Apr 4, 2005, 12:50 PM
nextel18 said:
it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot.

It sounds that way because we both understand the concept of debate and the rules of logic. The fallacy that you are presenting is taught in Logic 101 at most colleges.

The unicorn is one of nature's most magnificent creatures. Therefore its offspring will be just as magnificent.

Reminiscent of:

Nextel's nationwide PTT had less than one second latency in 2000. Therefore Cingular's will be higher.

Both statments are false.

Since the unicorn doesn't exist, any statement regarding it cannot be taken as fact.

Since Nextel's nationwide PTT didn't exist until 2003, any statement regarding ...
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:00 PM
"Both statments are false.

Since the unicorn doesn't exist, any statement regarding it cannot be taken as fact.

Since Nextel's nationwide PTT didn't exist until 2003, any statement regarding it before 2003 is false.
"

wow. thats all i have to say. and your saying i am stuck in reverse. hahah well thats what you and much talk about. just staying in the past. its ok i guess. move on already.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:39 PM
nextel18 said:
wow, you are quite pathetic. move on already.

last time lets see if you get it this time.

1. i made a mistake with the google search and it said that then i clicked on the link then i didnt read the date on the article.

conclusion; I READ IT WRONG!!! it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot. move on already. gas is in the car, the steering wheel is working, just change that gear.
We don't move on because you constantly make mistakes like this one.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:47 PM
no, you cant move on, becuase your not bright. i already said that i made a mistake on it, smart one. move on.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:51 PM
nextel18 said:
no, you cant move on, becuase your not bright. i already said that i made a mistake on it, smart one. move on.
You spell, write, and punctuate like a retard, and I'm not that bright? LOL. Good luck with ITT.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:01 PM
name calling? very mature. again, we been over this 100's of times. i dont care for spelling, writting, and punctuating correctly 24.7 on here. i mentioned that many times. i am right, you and that other person, i forgot his handle, cant move that gear.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 12:21 PM
See, now there's that whole trolling thing again. I can read what the argument was about. I've seen you say something about him not getting over things several times already. Although you keep saying that you're done with it, you keep stating that you're done, or that he can't get over something. You're the one keeping it going. Trolling.

As for something being a fact. Look up the definition of fact. Something is only a fact if it's backed up by credible information. You made it clear that Nextel is your favorite carrier and you think that others will not live up to it. It may be based on your observations, but since others may or may not have the same experiences it's refutable, that makes it an opinion.

Lastly, there is NO ...
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 12:28 PM
well, i am allowed to state about any competition that is there. cingular's competition with push to talk, if they roll it out, would be nextel, sprint and verizon. i was saying that they wont even meet the speeds of nextel's nor would they take many subscribers from nextel too. they could, however, take some from sprint and verizon.

sprint, and verizon rolled out push to talk and theirs were terrible. verizon recently rolled out their new version over the DO network, and its still terrible, yet improved. thus; i can say that nextel is the best in the push to talk field, and i will continue to say that till i see a provider that is better. again, cingular/att wireless wont be better then nextel's ptt system. if you cant handle that then y...
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 1:21 PM
You can say that all you like. And no one's disputing that Nextel has the best PTT network right now. Not saying that there's NO latency, cause that would be damn near impossible across the entire network ALL the time.

But as I stated, the original post was asking specifically about Cingular's testing. Since comments about other carriers weren't solicited, they shouldn't be offered. It's inappropriate and uncalled for. It seems that you only did it to fire people up and "stir the sh*t" as it were. That's trolling. Stop it.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:29 PM
"
You can say that all you like. And no one's disputing that Nextel has the best PTT network right now. Not saying that there's NO latency, cause that would be damn near impossible across the entire network ALL the time.
"

wrong! its instant my friend.


"It's inappropriate and uncalled for. It seems that you only did it to fire people up and "stir the s___" as it were. That's trolling. Stop it. "

it wasnt inappropriate. it was perfect. i didnt do it for that reason. i did it becuase i wanted to post the information so that person would know.

you seemed to be getting fired up over it. its a shame. its just a forum. get over it.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 2:35 PM
What fired up?

Yet again, with my statements you're trolling. There's no reason to tell me to get over anything, I'm not being emphatic, rude, or overly zealous about anything.

You just seem to want to stir up sh*t, thereby violating T&C's of this site. For that I sincerely hope you're banned, it can only make for a better read while I'm here at work.

By the way, no one and nothing is perfect. To believe that one or something is, is insanity. You need to learn your place in the world and come to terms with the reality that being stubborn, abrasive, and arrogant are not desireable qualities, be they on the internet or in personal interactions.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:38 PM
"You just seem to want to stir up ____, thereby violating T&C's of this site. For that I sincerely hope you're banned, it can only make for a better read while I'm here at work."

so, i dont sorry. those arent my intentions at all. sorry.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 3:00 PM
then why keep flamebaiting and running off topic? Why start and continue pointless arguments? Why act high and mighty cause you're goin to ITT and you love Nextel? It doesn't make sense. If you're not trying to cause a racket then why do these things?

My point is that you knew it would turn ugly the minute you responded to the original post the way you did. If your intention was not to troll then you wouldn't have responded that way.

I'm glad you like your carrier, but ya know most of us are happy with ours too. These are all opinions, we shouldn't shoot off at the mouth because we believe them to be true.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:04 PM
i didnt start with those off topic conversations. much drama and SF and someone else did. i just continued with the conversation.

again, if there is news about another carrier that effects another carrier i will post it, due to competition.

i didnt know it would turn ugly, becuase i didnt know that people on here take everything someone says to heart. you dont see me going off on someone for them saying nextel or sprint is bad. i just say thats good thats your opinon, but your reasoning doesnt back it up.

thats all i do. post information then have discussions. if people want to react like they are reacting something is wrong.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 3:26 PM
nextel18 said:
i didnt start with those off topic conversations. much drama and SF and someone else did. i just continued with the conversation.

again, if there is news about another carrier that effects another carrier i will post it, due to competition.

i didnt know it would turn ugly, becuase i didnt know that people on here take everything someone says to heart. you dont see me going off on someone for them saying nextel or sprint is bad. i just say thats good thats your opinon, but your reasoning doesnt back it up.

thats all i do. post information then have discussions. if people want to react like they are reacting something is wrong.
Right. So if someone asks "Does anyone have any idea if Cin...
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:29 PM
it doesnt sound stupid. its my opinion, based on the other companies' results or lack there of.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 3:31 PM
nextel18 said:
it doesnt sound stupid. its my opinion, based on the other companies' results or lack there of.
Results for what? Crash wanted to know people's thoughts on how good they thought Cingular PTT will be. Your answer not only had nothing to do with the question, but it incited the room into trying to kill you.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:38 PM
i was just basing my opinion, on what the previous competitors' did against nextel and that cingular wont have a chance and wont be as good as nextel's.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 3:39 PM
nextel18 said:
i was just basing my opinion, on what the previous competitors' did against nextel and that cingular wont have a chance and wont be as good as nextel's.
You are aware that Kokiak's PTT solution is working quite well in Europe right? You're in for a surprise, Captain Irrational.
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speck

Apr 4, 2005, 3:43 PM
Personally, PTT itself is a stepping stone... The true benefits will arise once the Push-To-Data begins... PTV and such... Nextel has PTT like Microsoft has OS's no doubt about that... Wether cingy's solution will be the linux of PTT who knows... all I know is the plans cingular has for Push tech is worth it alone... Cingular will not release Push technology strictly for the voice end... as some carriers have based their souls on...

Mmm... PTV...
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 3:50 PM
Personally I think PTT is the most annoying cell phone gimmick ever devised. I refuse to even think about Nextel just because of that damned "chirp" that is so loud and obnoxious. It's bad enough I have to hear one side of the conversation while I'm tryin to have a quiet dinner with my gf, I don't want to hear the entire thing punctuated by an obnoxious bleep.

This is true of ALL PTT systems....they're an annoying public nuisance and thier use should be stricktly limited to businesses with on-site employees where it actually does some good.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:46 PM
its KODIAK not kokiak's. by the way alltel runs on kodiak's system. so what? they have a small market area anyway.


"Instant Call Set-up – Subscribers can set-up any communications session in 2 - 3 seconds. Kodiak
requires only the originator to be a subscriber to the Kodiak Voice Bridge. Other wireless phones can
receive Kodiak Voice Bridge calls."

http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/solutions/InstantCalli ... »


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oh yea thats quite fast!

by the way, it can be a great solution by itself, but it will be dilouted once it hits gsm and cdma just like motorola's push to talk solution that sprint and verizon used.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 3:46 PM
muchdrama said:
nextel18 said:
i was just basing my opinion, on what the previous competitors' did against nextel and that cingular wont have a chance and wont be as good as nextel's.
You are aware that Kokiak's PTT solution is working quite well in Europe right? You're in for a surprise, Captain Irrational.
You dumbass. Read the sentence again. "Kokdiak's PTT solution". It shows ownership. Idiot.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:53 PM
you shouldnt be making fun of yourself. its called kodiak.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 3:57 PM
nextel18 said:
you shouldnt be making fun of yourself. its called kodiak.
Correct. And if you wanted to show ownership you'd say "Kokiak's". See? Good boy.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:00 PM
its KODIAKKKKKKKKKK
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 4:02 PM
nextel18 said:
its KODIAKKKKKKKKKK
True. But if Kodiak owns the patent to its particular type of PTT, it's Kodiak's PTT. Got it? Good.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:08 PM
very good. your learning now. by the way kodiak's system is quite slow. 2-3 seconds.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 4:00 PM
he's correcting your spelling. K-o-d-i-a-k
Only because of your previous spelling and grammar comments. I know it's annoying, but it's what trolls do. 🙄
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 4:03 PM
disturbed1 said:
he's correcting your spelling. K-o-d-i-a-k
Only because of your previous spelling and grammar comments. I know it's annoying, but it's what trolls do. 🙄
Acutally, I was showing ownership. He thinks I'm saying Kokiaks, when I'm really saying Kodiak's. See the ownership, Nextool?
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 4:06 PM
I don't know if you checked out Phonescoop on April Fool's day, but ya know what we could use right about now???

PTB-- Push To Bitchslap
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 4:09 PM
disturbed1 said:
I don't know if you checked out Phonescoop on April Fool's day, but ya know what we could use right about now???

PTB-- Push To Bitchslap
What about PTD? Push to Detonate.
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disturbed1

Apr 4, 2005, 4:17 PM
or PTL--Push To Lobotomize
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:41 PM
nextel18 said:
well, i am allowed to state about any competition that is there. cingular's competition with push to talk, if they roll it out, would be nextel, sprint and verizon. i was saying that they wont even meet the speeds of nextel's nor would they take many subscribers from nextel too. they could, however, take some from sprint and verizon.

sprint, and verizon rolled out push to talk and theirs were terrible. verizon recently rolled out their new version over the DO network, and its still terrible, yet improved. thus; i can say that nextel is the best in the push to talk field, and i will continue to say that till i see a provider that is better. again, cingular/att wireless wont be better then nextel's ptt sys
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:49 PM
name callings? i thought Rich said not to do name calling? going against authority huh? how interesting. but you lie too, so thats nothing new.

yep, thats what i said. its a fact, my friend. then i started to elaborate on what i was saying.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:51 PM
nextel18 said:
name callings? i thought Rich said not to do name calling? going against authority huh? how interesting. but you lie too, so thats nothing new.

yep, thats what i said. its a fact, my friend. then i started to elaborate on what i was saying.
Blah, blah, blah...name calling this, name calling that. Suck it up and be a man.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:02 PM
nope, you are a liar. he said not to do it, yet you do.

you sound like your 2 instead of 35 or however old you are.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 2:04 PM
nextel18 said:
nope, you are a liar. he said not to do it, yet you do.

you sound like your 2 instead of 35 or however old you are.
He said not to do it? That's your defense? And I'm the 2 year old? I think it's time to ignore you again. At least for a little while. Maybe not.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:06 PM
of course. he said not to do it, you actually posted it, i belive, then you do it again. yes, you are 2 years old by saying what you said earlier.

time to ignore me again? how long will that last 1 min? hahah.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:36 PM
nextel18 said:
yea, you are exactly like much. you 2 dont know how to move on what was said to the next thing. this is the thing that i said after you posted your post. I SAID THAT I READ THE DATE WRONG ON THE ARTICLE and FROM SEARCHING ON GOOGLE WITH THAT DATE. that is the last time i will say it becuase you cant budge from that gear. move on already.
Nope. Tool.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:47 PM
yep. sorry.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 6:32 PM
Wow. You know what? I've been all over the world too. I'm not that much older than you are, bud. I'm 24. Sorry that I seem to be that much older to you, but I guess that goes to show how underdeveloped you are.

Let's see...I've been to Canada, Mexico, Cayman Islands, Jamaica, the Azors, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Israel, S. Korea, Japan, Vietnam...and you don't see me bragging about being success. You only brag if you're insecure.

Proably have done a great many things you will never get the opportunity to do also.

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:36 PM
Great post, Speedy. I completely agree with your statement.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:29 PM
Let me clue you in on how to get an MBA, since I actually have one, unlike you.

You need to have a bachelor's degree first. An associate's degree or 2 will not get you into any MBA school. I don't care how rich you really are.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 11:01 PM
did you pay attention my friend? i said first i have an associates degree, and right now i am going for my bachleor's degree. after i get my bach's degree, i might decide to get my MBA. i never said i had one.

after 1 and a half or so years, i will be getting my bach's degree.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 1:59 PM
"and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA."

Above is a direct quote from you....to me, that says that you do not have anything yet.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:11 PM
SForsyth01 said:
"and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA."

Above is a direct quote from you....to me, that says that you do not have anything yet.
No offense, but ITT Tech's a joke. Always has been, always will be. It's where people that can't handle real college go to pick up a skill to fend for themselves.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:15 PM
I agree completely....

but did you see the best one, drama....he is now telling me that I didn't ever work at CompUSA. Wonderful....now he knows what I did in my life better than I do.

Next thing I know, he will be telling me that I don't have any college degrees.

idiot.
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speedywalk

Apr 3, 2005, 2:17 PM
And how he also claimed that I was lieing about seein Nextel dumped from my store for over a year!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:19 PM
Oh, read further....he told me that I never worked for CompUSA....now he knows about my life better than I do....This just keeps getting better and better.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:24 PM
speedywalk said:
And how he also claimed that I was lieing about seein Nextel dumped from my store for over a year!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
Yeah, he called me on that as well. Circuit City used to carry Nextel about 6 years ago, but we ended our affiliation with them because of complaints from customers and poor overall service.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:30 PM
i never said lying. i said about the whole latency thing. i dont care if those kinds of stores dump nextel becuase nextel had their own stores where they would sell from their own channels instead of from others. just like radio shack is complaning about sprint a few weeks ago or so.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:23 PM
SForsyth01 said:
I agree completely....

but did you see the best one, drama....he is now telling me that I didn't ever work at CompUSA. Wonderful....now he knows what I did in my life better than I do.

Next thing I know, he will be telling me that I don't have any college degrees.

idiot.
I just can't keep my mouth shut sometimes. He's going on about how Cingular PTT will suck before it comes out.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:26 PM
Yeah, he is a moron. It is plain for everyone to see. He thinks he knows everything about everything whether it has been launched yet or not.

And he thinks he knows what we have done and currently do in our lives better than we do. The last time I checked, God was the only one that could know all of that....so he must be....Wait....nevermind....God would never work in a mall kiosk.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:33 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Yeah, he is a moron. It is plain for everyone to see. He thinks he knows everything about everything whether it has been launched yet or not.

And he thinks he knows what we have done and currently do in our lives better than we do. The last time I checked, God was the only one that could know all of that....so he must be....Wait....nevermind....God would never work in a mall kiosk.
I try to ignore his stupidity unless he says something outright incorrect. Here's a few examples:

1)Nextel owns Qchat (and he works for Nextel folks!)
2)Verizon does not operate on 1900mhz.
3)Cingular will not be profitable for 77 years.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:36 PM
You are just scratching the surface. Let it all out, drama.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:39 PM
SForsyth01 said:
You are just scratching the surface. Let it all out, drama.
Eh, I won't waste my time or yours.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:43 PM
Hey, did you know that growth of a company is called "organic growth?" Last time I checked that was a term in science defining the growth of organisms.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:48 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Hey, did you know that growth of a company is called "organic growth?" Last time I checked that was a term in science defining the growth of organisms.
Actually, I think that can be applied to businesses. I might be insane, though.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 3:20 PM
It may be....but I was never taught it in my 6 years of school. I was always taught that it was organizational growth.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 4:03 PM
SForsyth01 said:
It may be....but I was never taught it in my 6 years of school. I was always taught that it was organizational growth.
Google it and you'll see what I mean.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:50 PM
it can be assigned to businesses. i also provided some links where they actually mention organic growth there. so that is a word that is used in the business world.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:11 PM
nextel18 said:
it can be assigned to businesses. i also provided some links where they actually mention organic growth there. so that is a word that is used in the business world.
What are you yapping at me for? I don't give a rat's ass.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:34 PM
yes, you care. you said you think that it is, as well as that he should check google. so you obviously care, or else you wouldnt have even mentioned it.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:04 PM
nextel18 said:
yes, you care. you said you think that it is, as well as that he should check google. so you obviously care, or else you wouldnt have even mentioned it.
Well, I care when I talk with Scotty. But you? Nope. Not one bit.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 8:06 PM
if you dont care how come your responding back to me? or responding to the things i said? hmm? you must care. face it, becuase your not smart, nor have a life, you pick on others who do. i get it now!!! just like SF figured out i was a snobby rich brat, i figured out that you have no life, no friends, not smart and other things.

if you dont care. stop posting to me. you promised a few times saying that you wouldnt post to me, then you do. seems like you care.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:23 PM
nextel18 said:
face it, becuase your not smart,
I can spell, punctuate, read, and write. I've got one leg up on you.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:02 AM
morning again. i dont want to do all of that on the computer especially on the forum. I DONT CARE!! i dont think you get it. it doesnt bother me to do that stuff.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:16 PM
yea, you arent the brightest it seems like.

lets go over it one more time for you so you will understand. i will do it in an outline form.

1. currently
a. associates degree in business admin/mgmt.
b. going for bach's in business admin/mgmt
2. future
a. go to ITT for some sorta associates degree
b. maybe go for my masters in business admin/mgmt.
c. maybe go after i complete my associates degree at ITT i will get my bach's
3. conclusion.
a. i hope you get it.
b. i hope you understand it.
c. please say you do.

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hahha anyway lets hope you get it now.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:07 PM
nextel18 said:
yea, you arent the brightest it seems like.

lets go over it one more time for you so you will understand. i will do it in an outline form.

1. currently
a. associates degree in business admin/mgmt.
b. going for bach's in business admin/mgmt
2. future
a. go to ITT for some sorta associates degree
b. maybe go for my masters in business admin/mgmt.
c. maybe go after i complete my associates degree at ITT i will get my bach's
3. conclusion.
a. i hope you get it.
b. i hope you understand it.
c. please say you do.

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hahha anyway lets hope you get it now.

Yeah. We get it. You want to get two AA degrees.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:31 PM
well apparently you still dont get it.

lets do it again.

1. CURRENTLY HAVE
a. associates in business administration.

2. GOING FOR.
a. going for bach's in BA

3. Future
a. going for masters in BA
b. going for ITT associates and maybe bach's.

do i have to do it any other way for you to possibly understand?
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:01 PM
nextel18 said:
well apparently you still dont get it.

lets do it again.

1. CURRENTLY HAVE
a. associates in business administration.

2. GOING FOR.
a. going for bach's in BA

3. Future
a. going for masters in BA
b. going for ITT associates and maybe bach's.

do i have to do it any other way for you to possibly understand?

It's not that we don't see what you're putting down on paper, it's that it makes NO sense. You have an AA in Business. Great, fine, and dandy. But you also want another AA at ITT? Why? What on Earth do you want with two AAs? Who goes for two AAs? You also state that you want two BAs: One in Business, and one at ITT? That doesn't make any sense either.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 8:02 PM
it makes perfect sense. i want to be well rounded. to have a few degrees in BA and then degrees with technology. that is what ITT is, that is if you understand.

it makes perfect sense. again, i want to be well rounded.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:21 PM
nextel18 said:
it makes perfect sense. i want to be well rounded. to have a few degrees in BA and then degrees with technology. that is what ITT is, that is if you understand.

it makes perfect sense. again, i want to be well rounded.
ITT is a place for people who can't handle actual college work to gain a skill they can support themselves with.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 4:10 AM
morning.. no ITT is a school for people who want to get an education with the technology side. go search ittech.edu

"ITT Educational Services, Inc. is a leading private college system focused on technology-oriented programs of study. It operates over 75 ITT Technical Institutes in 29 states which predominantly provide career-focused, degree programs to approximately 40,000 students. Headquartered in Carmel, Indiana, it has been actively involved in the higher education community in the United States since 1969"


looks good to me.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 8:59 AM
nextel18 said:
morning.. no ITT is a school for people who want to get an education with the technology side. go search ittech.edu

"ITT Educational Services, Inc. is a leading private college system focused on technology-oriented programs of study. It operates over 75 ITT Technical Institutes in 29 states which predominantly provide career-focused, degree programs to approximately 40,000 students. Headquartered in Carmel, Indiana, it has been actively involved in the higher education community in the United States since 1969"


looks good to me.
When I was in High School we sent the idiots to "Technical School".
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 10:58 AM
i know what you are talking about. like vocational tech schools and things of that sort, however, ITT tech is a lot different then those kinda schools.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:32 PM
nextel18 said:
i know what you are talking about. like vocational tech schools and things of that sort, however, ITT tech is a lot different then those kinda schools.
Sure it is. Keep aiming high, Ace.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:46 PM
of course it is, my friend. i always aim high. its good to have high goals, becuase most of the time you accomplish them.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:47 PM
nextel18 said:
of course it is, my friend. i always aim high. its good to have high goals, becuase most of the time you accomplish them.

At ITT. Riiiiiiiight.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 1:56 PM
yep, at ITT.


"Riiiiiiiight."

wow, a dude saying that an a 34 year old saying that? how interesting.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 1:58 PM
nextel18 said:
yep, at ITT.


"Riiiiiiiight."

wow, a dude saying that an a 34 year old saying that? how interesting.
Slow at the mall today?
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:02 PM
hahah, how retarded. i am not at the mall sorry.

you have nothing to do huh? thats sad. go out, get a life.
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muchdrama

Apr 4, 2005, 2:04 PM
nextel18 said:
hahah, how retarded. i am not at the mall sorry.

you have nothing to do huh? thats sad. go out, get a life.
I'm posting you poolside, buddy.
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 2:07 PM
your not doing anything to me, sorry. go out for once. by the way i love my pool, and the ocean, but i bet you dont even live on the ocean nor you have a pool.

i feel bad.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:31 PM
Oh, Yeah, and you say you are successful and you don't even have an associate's degree at 21 years old???? Buddy, I had my bachelor's degree in accounting 6 months after I turned 21.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 11:09 PM
yea, i am very successful thanks. jealous still huh? come on now grow up. i am working on my bach's degree and will be completed after a year and a half.

are you very dumb sir? I TOLD YOU I HAVE AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE!!! jeez. very selective seeing it looks like.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:01 PM
Am I dumb??? Good one. What do I have to be jealous of??? A job working in a mall kiosk jerking off all day??? I don't think so.

"then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA. "

That is one of your statements. To me, that says that you don't have s*** yet.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:01 PM
right if you read it correctly it says when i go to ITT i would like to get my associates degree with that school. BUT I ALREADY HAVE MY ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN BUSINESS MGMT AND I AM GOING FOR RIGHT NOT FOR MY BACH'S. come on now.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:01 PM
nextel18 said:
right if you read it correctly it says when i go to ITT i would like to get my associates degree with that school. BUT I ALREADY HAVE MY ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN BUSINESS MGMT AND I AM GOING FOR RIGHT NOT FOR MY BACH'S. come on now.
So, you've got your AA in Business, and you're going for your BA. But you also want to get an AA and BA from ITT? You're not making any sense.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:28 PM
i am making plenty of sense. basically i want more degrees. how does that not make any sense?

my goals
1. have bach's in business administatrion
2. get an associates in ITT tech or some school like that.
3. get masters in BA
4. maybe get bach's in ITT.

makes perfect sense to me.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 7:56 PM
nextel18 said:
i am making plenty of sense. basically i want more degrees. how does that not make any sense?

my goals
1. have bach's in business administatrion
2. get an associates in ITT tech or some school like that.
3. get masters in BA
4. maybe get bach's in ITT.

makes perfect sense to me.
And you only.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 7:59 PM
it doesnt make sense to you becuase you probably dont have an education, and you argue with 21 year olds, becuase you have no other life.


you just cant think. it makes perfect sense to me and my peeps and others. sorry. just only you, SF doesnt get it. but thats ok, you guys have no lives anyway. not a big deal.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 8:18 PM
nextel18 said:
it doesnt make sense to you becuase you probably dont have an education, and you argue with 21 year olds, becuase you have no other life.


you just cant think. it makes perfect sense to me and my peeps and others. sorry. just only you, SF doesnt get it. but thats ok, you guys have no lives anyway. not a big deal.
I have a Bachelor of Science in Telecommunication Operations from the University of Florida (go Gators!), and an MBA from the University of Florida. See how I spell and punctuate that so well? I'm also a widower (do you even know what that is?) with a young son that I'm raising on my own (age: 3 years old). I'm also an Operations Manager for Circuit City, which I've been doing for 2...
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nextel18

Apr 4, 2005, 3:58 AM
morning; Circuit city means nothing becuase that company is in a lot of trouble. now, good with the own store part. by the way, with all your accomplishments you shouldnt be online and you should be out and about.

what are you going to be selling?
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speedywalk

Apr 3, 2005, 3:32 PM
You're not very successful. You're a contradiction. Let me make this simple for you:
nextel18 said:
have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's.

So? Which is it? You seem to make so much stuff up that you can't keep it all straight! If you tell the truth, you don't have to make stuff up to cover your butt.

In the course of 25 words you have single handedly destroyed every shred of credibility you had (and that wasn't much). Rule number one about debate--don't contradict yourself in your argument. That makes you:

  1. Look stupid
  2. Lose credibility
  3. Lose the debate
  4. Defeat yourself

I would lo ...
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 4:17 PM
speedywalk said:
You're not very successful. You're a contradiction. Let me make this simple for you:
nextel18 said:
have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's.

So? Which is it? You seem to make so much stuff up that you can't keep it all straight! If you tell the truth, you don't have to make stuff up to cover your butt.

In the course of 25 words you have single handedly destroyed every shred of credibility you had (and that wasn't much). Rule number one about debate--don't contradict yourself in your argument. That makes you:

  1. Look stupid
  2. Lose credibility
  3. Lose the debate
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2005, 6:10 PM
yea you and SF are morons. this is what i said.

1. i have an associates degree in BA and going for my bach's.
2. after i get my bach's in ba i have a few choices that i want to do.
a. go to ITT and get an associates in something there
b. get my masters in BA.

hope you understand that.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:44 PM
2-3 years??? ANd you are only 21... Most cellular service companies don't hire anyone right out of high schoool because they don't have experience (unless you are talking third party) so how did you get so lucky? And as for the northeast, that's a pretty vast area you are speaking of.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:33 PM
nextel18 said:
i already told you, i worked in the industry and i have ties to the industry. i talk to tech people, IR people, execs almost every day.

i know these things too.
You sell phones at a Mall Kiosk. That isn't "industry work". Industry work means management, corporate sales, customer service from a corporate service center.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:37 PM
Wait on that one... I do take offense to the mall kiosk thing even though I know its not directed towards me.
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speedywalk

Apr 2, 2005, 5:42 PM
muchdrama said:
nextel18 said:
i already told you, i worked in the industry and i have ties to the industry. i talk to tech people, IR people, execs almost every day.

i know these things too.
You sell phones at a Mall Kiosk. That isn't "industry work". Industry work means management, corporate sales, customer service from a corporate service center.

Correct-a-mundo! Sorry.

Correct. If you are "in the industry" you are in some shape, manner, or form affiliated with a CORPORATE location. The corporate locations get all the training, collateral, communications, directives, and what not that dealers, mall kiosks, and friends of "tech people (because THEY would be the ones ...
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:01 PM
And Nextel did not always have their less than one second delay... Or do you not remeber that?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:04 PM
no i dont remember that. when was that? iden was always built for push to talk while cdma, gsm, and others werent. hence the delays with rolling out push to talk as well as with verizon and sprint.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:20 PM
No I can remember back about 6 years ago or so when my father's construction company made the mistake of switching to them, which is a completely different story, and the lag time was about 2-3 seconds... It has only recently become the supposed "Less than a second time".
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:23 PM
no, i had nextel 6 years or so ago, and their latency was still the way it is. i think maybe it was 2-3 seconds when they actually rolled it out first and maybe 1 year or 2 after words.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:29 PM
nextel18 said:
i think maybe it was 2-3 seconds when they actually rolled it out first and maybe 1 year or 2 after words.
Exactly. You think. And when Circuit City was carrying Nextel about 6-7 years ago, the company almost immediately canceled the contract we had made because of Nextel's poor performance and customer complaints about their service.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:34 PM
it doesnt make any difference if circuit city carries nextel or not. it is just a different channel of selling something. it doesnt mean that nextel's service was bad. anway look at their churn from then till now and then arpu.

just like radio shack said that wireless will do bad becuase sprint is opening up more stores and selling it through their channels. does that mean wireless is doing bad? of course not. same with circuit city. they are just different channels.

again, i had nextel 6 years ago and there was no 2-3 second delay. i am not sure about the 7th year becuase i didnt have them.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:39 PM
And I am telling you that I had it six years ago and it did... How are you going to tell me I am wrong.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:46 PM
becuase i had nextel 6 years ago and i didnt have any latency that your claiming.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:49 PM
But I did... So how can you tell me what I was experiencing is wrong?
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:53 PM
i am not sure, why you experiencing that, becuase i wasnt and same with my friends who had nextel. maybe you can find an article somewhere saying that nextel had that amount of latency back then, becuase i had it and it was fine.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:36 PM
How in the hell would you have any clue what latency was when you were 15???? You probably didn't even know the definition of the word.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:38 PM
simple. i knew. plus at the place where i got it there wasnt any latency becuase i tried it.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:42 PM
Whatever....You are a complete liar and a complete idiot. Everyone here knows that. No 15 year old knows if there is latency in their conversations over cell phones. Why don't you just shut the hell up and leave this forum because everyone here is sick and tired of your inaccurate information.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:46 PM
i am a liar? hahahah thats funny. i know i had nextel for 6 years since i was 15!! you just cant take it so you call me a liar and an idiot. what else is knew. everyone knows that 15 year olds dont know latency? hahaha yea, sure. especially if they ask the rep who you bought it from. by the way it was an i1000 that i got first. then to i1000 to i1000 plus series then up till now.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:49 PM
nextel18 said:
what else is knew.


Wonderful english!!!! Absolutely wonderful.

And I am so sure that a 15 year old would think to ask a sales rep about latency of direct connect. In fact, I believe I asked a sales rep about that when I was 5.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:51 PM
yep, i did. i asked them becuase i wanted direct connect and i asked them whats the latency and i tried it out and i got it. by the way, you wouldnt belive me about this anyway but i had sprint prior to that. some samsung phone i belive.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 12:30 AM
SForsyth01 said:
How in the hell would you have any clue what latency was when you were 15???? You probably didn't even know the definition of the word.
He still doesn't understand what latency means. Go ahead, buddy...explain what it means to us.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:04 PM
All I cared about when I was 21 was where I was getting drunk at next and how I was gonna get laid that night. I didn't give 2 s***s about latency of direct connect.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:16 PM
SForsyth01 said:
All I cared about when I was 21 was where I was getting drunk at next and how I was gonna get laid that night. I didn't give 2 s***s about latency of direct connect.
I was a quiet dork that did nothing but read.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:18 PM
I don't believe that for 1 minute. But, to each his own.

Nextel is a spoiled rich brat that buys his women.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:26 PM
SForsyth01 said:
I don't believe that for 1 minute. But, to each his own.

Nextel is a spoiled rich brat that buys his women.
You don't believe I was a quiet dork? LOL. Oh, if you could have only seen me at 21. Pfft. Pathetic. Is Nextel rich? How do we know that?
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:28 PM
Read more of the PTT thread. He admits to being a rich jew. His dad bought him everything he ever wanted, including a cell phone at 13 years old.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:35 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Read more of the PTT thread. He admits to being a rich jew. His dad bought him everything he ever wanted, including a cell phone at 13 years old.
I think he may have made that up to explain him having a cell phone at 13. And no offense...I've NEVER in my life met a Jewish person so utterly stupid. Jewish folks educate their children VERY well.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:37 PM
Normally....but there is always the exception. Nextel18 seems to be the exception to everything.

But the thing that doesn't add up is Jewish folks do NOT waste money at all. That is why most of them are rich. And giving a 13 year old a cell phone would DEFINATELY be wasting money.
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muchdrama

Apr 3, 2005, 2:46 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Normally....but there is always the exception. Nextel18 seems to be the exception to everything.

But the thing that doesn't add up is Jewish folks do NOT waste money at all. That is why most of them are rich. And giving a 13 year old a cell phone would DEFINATELY be wasting money.
Let's not start getting into the whole Jewish thing as it makes me a little uncomfortable. Remember, we've got some Jewish folks on this site...specifically KnifeySpooney. Jewish folks are usually well off 'cause they're excellent with finances and they keep businesses and skills within the family for generations.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 3:19 PM
Oh, I'm not trying to get into that issue at all. Jewish folks are VERY intelligent individuals. Especially with finances.

That's just another rule that nextel18 is the exception to. That is the point I was making.
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SForsyth01

Apr 3, 2005, 2:31 PM
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

There is a link of where the conversation where he admits to being a rich bitch starts. Just start there and read forward.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:53 PM
nextel18 said:
becuase i had nextel 6 years ago and i didnt have any latency that your claiming.
Bullshit...'cause 6 years ago I witnessed it personally.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 5:56 PM
oo resorting to swearing. again, 6 years ago i had nextel and i had no latency what-so-ever. ooo someone is getting testy.. meow.... is it becuase your upset and WRONG LIKE ALWAYS!!??
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:37 PM
So you had a nextel phone when you were 15??? I doubt that. No 15 year old I knew had a cell phone in 1999.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:39 PM
yea, i had a cell phone when i was 15. you doubt that? hahah well its true, sorry. you didnt know anyone? well i did. dont be jealous it is truly not a big deal.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:44 PM
Well, now your true issues come out. Your mother gave you everything you ever wanted and didn't need. That explains why you can't handle being proven wrong on everything.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:47 PM
no, that was my dad. but after i was 13 i got a nice bar mitzvah present and with some of that money i bought a cell phone and obviously it was under my dad's name.

fyi i am jewish and us jews we get a nice amount of money when we are 13.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:51 PM
Oh, so you are a spoiled rich brat. That explains everything.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:52 PM
thats right!!!! you finally got it!
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:55 PM
I knew I would get it eventually. Now everything makes sense.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:56 PM
took 500 years, but you finally get it!!!! we should have a forum celebration!!!

its about time come on lalalallall hahahha
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 10:17 PM
out of curiosity, how long have you had a cell phone?
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 10:19 PM
Since 1997. My first phone was the Nokia 638 (I believe that was the model number, it was an analog phone) through AT&T.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 10:59 PM
thats good. so you had it for 9 years too. (nextel= 6, sprint=3. for me)
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:39 PM
nextel18 said:
it doesnt make any difference if circuit city carries nextel or not. it is just a different channel of selling something. it doesnt mean that nextel's service was bad. anway look at their churn from then till now and then arpu.

just like radio shack said that wireless will do bad becuase sprint is opening up more stores and selling it through their channels. does that mean wireless is doing bad? of course not. same with circuit city. they are just different channels.

again, i had nextel 6 years ago and there was no 2-3 second delay. i am not sure about the 7th year becuase i didnt have them.

You didn't have Nextel 6-7 years ago because you were 13 years old. Or did you forget when you ...
(continues)
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 5:30 PM
You have got to be kidding me... You must really not know what you are talking about... I had the phone in my hand and used it... I know what I talking about and I know the time frame because it was right before my father sold off his half of the construction company... Stop feeding me lies. I know what I used.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:34 PM
So you had a nextel cell phone when you were 15???? No wonder the world is crumbling around us.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:37 PM
i had a cell phone for a long time, with sprint and nextel.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:39 PM
That is all well and good, but when you were 15???? Or are you forgetting that you told us how old you are???
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:40 PM
yes. how many times do i have to tell you? i had nextel for 6 years. and i am 21. so you can do the math. plus i had sprint so i had a cell phone previously before i was 15 but thats ok. again, its not a big deal.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:45 PM
Whatever, you are either a liar or a complete spoiled brat. Whichever it is, deal with it and take your inaccurate information to another forum.
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nextel18

Apr 2, 2005, 9:48 PM
again, no need to lie about it. its pathetic to lie on a forum. anywya, i am not lying but thats ok.

i always post accurate information. you just cant take it especially if its against your carrier.
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muchdrama

Apr 2, 2005, 5:05 PM
jramossteel said:
And Nextel did not always have their less than one second delay... Or do you not remeber that?

Of course he doesn't. Because ten years ago (actually even longer than that) he was 10 years old still playing with whatever was popular with kids 10 years old. Nextel took its time over a decade or longer perfecting PTT.
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DomNation

Apr 2, 2005, 5:47 PM
ok ok ok... i worked for Nextel now with cingular. Nextel's Two Way is awesome. but it sucks also.. not always working, and i had a i830 and a i730. Trust me, Nextel is never going to get their $h!# done! From my district man. which will remain unknown. CHICAGO WEST! says. Nextel is not one of the greatest companies but they sure do pay me a lot to sit here and look good. SEE NEXTEL IS A POORLY RUN COMPANY!
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joef3

Apr 2, 2005, 5:20 PM
Right, well, back to the original question:


From about as high up the corporate ladder as you can go:

PTT will be out around christmas. No sooner.
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 7:59 PM
WTF are we still doing arguing with him.

Different areas may have different problems with latency, then and now.

We know what we are talking about. He isn't worth our time.

We have more important things to concern ourselves with and even though we have proven him wrong (when I say we I mean all of you since I haven't been here) he is still childish and can't admit to it.

Ok im done. I just don't think this should go on any longer.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 8:09 PM
OKay.. I am sorry shay. 😢
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 8:22 PM
Im not mad at you Jackie. I just think your waisting your time. Prease don't think im mad at you. You're one of my favorite people in the world.
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jramossteel

Apr 2, 2005, 8:40 PM
Thanks... ANd I appreciate that I just can't stand that uppity little pain in the rear end
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 8:41 PM
Yeah I know. Just in the two days ive been back I learned to dispise him.

Its not worth the headache it is gonna give you to argue with someone who obviously knows little about the topic though. 🙂

And you all are sooooo much above him in intellect. 😁
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:50 PM
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

He is really frustrating me. I have been trying to leave him alone and not point out how much of an idiot he really is....but he is really out of line today..... 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈
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Shayby

Apr 2, 2005, 9:52 PM
Which is why I posted this and everyone has left this entire thread alone today. Its not worth it. Arguing with him is just gonna cause more headaches for you. And it is also gonna make people want to quit reading and posting here.
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SForsyth01

Apr 2, 2005, 9:56 PM
Well, I finally got to the bottom of it. He has admitted to being a spoiled rich brat....so that explains everything....I feel much better now.

So how are you today??? 😁
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 12:33 PM
To speedy, hero and anyone else who has proven this guy wrong.

Obviously we are getting nowhere. Speedy, Hero I just read over your posts and you guys have proven him wrong so many times and he still continues to argue.

He calls you all liars and refuses to believe the truth.

If I were you I would just say forget it and ignore him cuz obviously he isn't worth it.

Just my opinion.
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 12:55 PM
Hey, Shay....your point is well taken. But sometimes it gets so frustrating to see all of these false posts that we just can't help ourselves and our male egos take over and we just have to prove him wrong again. 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈
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speedywalk

Apr 4, 2005, 12:57 PM
SForsyth01 said:
Hey, Shay....your point is well taken. But sometimes it gets so frustrating to see all of these false posts that we just can't help ourselves and our male egos take over and we just have to prove him wrong again. 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈

Friggin' testosterone....by the way Forsythe, my car is bigger than yours! 😛 😛 LOL!

Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:06 PM
Lmao your insane!
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 1:14 PM
Gosh Darnit....Now I have to go buy a new one.... 😕
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:16 PM
Wait...I have the answer...go get some. Find a chick, or man, whichever you prefer and let all your energy out. 🙄 😉
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 1:20 PM
Shay....you should know better....Man???? Are you crazy???? You should know me better than that.

I feel insulted. 😈
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:23 PM
That comment was not directed necessarily at you...its to all you men here who feel the need to spread your testosterone throughout the forum
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 1:25 PM
But it is our manly duty to do so. 😈
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:26 PM
We are NOT going into manly duties...you really would feel insulted. 😉
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 1:39 PM
Not Nice. 😢
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 1:48 PM
Awww you poor baby. You know my opinion about men currently 😛

Besides the testosterone comment called for anything I could reply with. 😛
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 3:06 PM
Whatever you say, dear. 😛
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 3:03 PM
SHAY... don't egg the boys on.
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 3:08 PM
She enjoys doing it. But then she will yell at us when we get rowdy. 🙄 😉
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 3:33 PM
SForsyth01 said:
She enjoys doing it. But then she will yell at us when we get rowdy. 🙄 😉


Lies! Im a little angel. 😈
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SForsyth01

Apr 5, 2005, 7:12 AM
Or so you would like us to think.... 😉
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 3:11 PM
Wait a minute....what did I do?? 😳
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 3:45 PM
Nothing....
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 4:02 PM
Hehe. All I have to say is....Shawn started it! 🙂
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 4:09 PM
I took me a while to catch up with the forum... It drives me nuts when I am away for a while. 🙄
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Shayby

Apr 4, 2005, 4:43 PM
Yup waaay too much to read when you get back.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 2:47 PM
Hey it's not just the boys... He "burns my butt" too! 😡
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SForsyth01

Apr 4, 2005, 3:06 PM
That must hurt....I thought they made something for that problem.
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 3:43 PM
Yeah well... 🤭
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speck

Apr 4, 2005, 3:44 PM
In it for the rash not the lotion, eh? 😛
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jramossteel

Apr 4, 2005, 3:51 PM
No 😳 why would you think that?
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