PTT
jramossteel said:
Can I ask a question without seeming stupid? What is the big friggin' deal about Push To Talk? I mean honestly, is it that hard to hold a conversation as a regular phone call. ... I just don't see the benefit for anyone other than people in construction or technical work, but even then I still don't see this huge advantage. 😕
LOL - agree completely!!! It's retrograde! ... enjoyed by a bunch of good 'ole boys longing to yuk it up w/Burt Reynolds ... c'mon back, Bandit?
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chamelea said:jramossteel said:
Can I ask a question without seeming stupid? What is the big friggin' deal about Push To Talk? I mean honestly, is it that hard to hold a conversation as a regular phone call. ... I just don't see the benefit for anyone other than people in construction or technical work, but even then I still don't see this huge advantage. 😕
LOL - agree completely!!! It's retrograde! ... enjoyed by a bunch of good 'ole boys longing to yuk it up w/Burt Reynolds ... c'mon back, Bandit?
🤣 🤣
Okay, now that was pretty funny.
how would you pay twice?
nextel's unlmited direct connect plans are from 35-200.
nextel18 said:Geeze. Here we go again.
if you want push to talk get nextel.
nextel18 said:You knew I was going to say something because basically you're shooting down Cingular's PTT without it even on the market yet. He asked how Cingular's PTT service was coming, and you responded "if you want PTT get Nextel". Why would you even say something like that in here? Wait for the service to be offered before bashing it.
i thought you said you werent going to talk to me? so far its twice. why cant you ever keep your word? i knew you were going to say something.
nextel18 said:Wait till 2007 to experience Qchat? People want solutions now, and they might not necessarily want to deal with Nextel's mediocre cell service. Let's just wait and see how Cingular's PTT service works first, okay?
why not? it will still be on a delay like verizon's new ptt over the REV O network. it will be bad regardless. again, if they want a true push to talk company they chose nextel then qchat with nextel/sprint if they like cdma in 2007.
1. nextel
2. alltel
3. verizon
4. sprint
(thats the order it should be)
coming soon
5. nextel/sprint in 2007.
6. cingular/att wireless tba.
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i knocked on sprint's and verizon's roll out when it was rumored to come out and look how those went? terrible. verizon's new service is still terrible,however, it has improved. (becuase its over their DO system)
nextel18 said:
people have solutions...
1. nextel
2. alltel
3. verizon
4. sprint
(thats the order it should be)
coming soon
5. nextel/sprint in 2007.
6. cingular/att wireless tba.
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i knocked on sprint's and verizon's roll out when it was rumored to come out and look how those went? terrible. verizon's new service is still terrible,however, it has improved. (becuase its over their DO system)
I've used Verizon's new PTT service between two separate counties and guess what? It's not terrible. It's a viable alternative to Nextel. Despite what you would say. But why on earth would you bash Cingular's PTT service before it arrives? We want you to explain that to us.
why would i bash cingular? becuase i bashed verizon and sprint and they did terrible and i said that there was no point of them to roll it out becuase of m2m. cingular wont do well.
nextel18 said:
i tried verizon's new push to talk too and it was terrible. the set-up latency was around 2-3 seconds and during the call it was about pretty good but it went from not much latency to 2 seconds. too much of a delay. i am also seeing that when a few brokerage firms do channel checks and demo checks they say pretty much the same or similiar as i do.
why would i bash cingular? becuase i bashed verizon and sprint and they did terrible and i said that there was no point of them to roll it out becuase of m2m. cingular wont do well.
And guess what? I was in a Verizon store getting my phone replaced on Friday and tried out the new Kyocera 444 PTT handset and have a great, latency free conversation...
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latency free? i dont think so. maybe during the intra call but not for the set-up.
nextel18 said:The conversation was pretty much instantaneous...very quick. I didn't notice any difference from when I used Nextel a couple of years back.
if it works well, when i try it as well as big brokerage houses try it and they compare it to nextel and as do i, then i will say cingular will do well.
latency free? i dont think so. maybe during the intra call but not for the set-up.
"if it works well, when i try it as well as big brokerage houses try it and they compare it to nextel and as do i, then i will say cingular will do well."
Did you not just tell all of us that Cingular PTT would suck sight unseen? Now you're telling us you're willing to try it before making a decision?
MY OPINION IS AS FOLLOWS;
right now= my opinion, cingular will be bad when it rolls out.
when it rolls out= my opinion will still with that it will still be bad thus will stand stand till my trials show that cingular's push to talk system is good.
let me hope you understand that.
nextel18 said:Uh, no...I don't understand it as it is the most grammatically inept sentence I've ever read in my 34 years on this planet. And that's Earth in case you're confused.
when it rolls out= my opinion will still with that it will still be bad thus will stand stand till my trials show that cingular's push to talk system is good.
let me hope you understand that.
nextel18 said:I got out. I got out to a bar last night and didn't make it back in till 4am. Is that "out" enough for you? And since when was there an "age limit" for the internet? I'm nursing a hangover so go jump off a cliff.
34 years? wow. and your online? wow shows how much of a life you have by arguing with a 21 year old. come on dude. get out sometimes.
there is no age limit for the internet it just proves that you have no life by being online at 34 and arguing with a 21 year old.
nextel18 said:How's it matter that you're 21 and I'm 34 and we're both on the internet? As for hangovers, I function pretty highly while experiencing one. I also spell, pronounce, read, punctuate, and rationalize far better than you. Because you know what? You're an idiot.
having a hangover and typing very well? hmm i smell bologna and its not the sandwich.
there is no age limit for the internet it just proves that you have no life by being online at 34 and arguing with a 21 year old.
give it up already my friend.
nextel18 said:24/7? You've never spelled or used punctuation correctly EVER. In ANY of your posts. You'd better forget your BA/ITT/AA dreams 'cause you're an idiot.
i dont care about spelling correctly 24/7 for all the forum nerds out there. sorry.
nextel18 said:You "don't want to"? No. It's because you have no idea what spelling and grammar are. No one ever taught you how to read and write.
oo name calling. again, i dont want to spell correctly 24/7 and use correct punctuation especially online where you nerds exist. sorry. thats not my game.
nextel18 said:Nothing's the same without proper punctuation.
no... i am a poor person like you. i can say it anyway i want. "don't want to" or "dont want to" is the same thing. it means the same thing.
Just remember this: HE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!
SForsyth01 said:I sure as hell didn't understand the world at 21, but you know what? I had common sense and I could spell and read pretty well...Nextel's as dumb as a brick in that regard. I just couldn't stand seeing him feed everybody in this forum crap.
Wow, Drama, you must have a hangover because you finally gave in and let him have it again. The only problem is that he will never understand. You are correct, sir, he is an idiot. And he also indirectly admitted that he has no clue on how the world works. None of us did at 21.
Just remember this: HE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!
If the delay on PTT is because of Verizon's Rev. O network, then why would Cingular's PTT be on a delay? If they are releasing PTT over their HSDPA network, which in fact is faster than Rev. O and Rev. A, then it in fact, would be faster than both Verizon's PTT and Sprint\Nextel's qChat.
Honestly, you need to think before you post your stupid guesses.
RUFF1415 said:Nextel doesn't think about ANY of his responses. And I want EVERYbody to read how he thinks Cingular's PTT SUCKS before it even arrives. NONE of us know how well Cingular's PTT will work until it's on...
How do you know this? Are you God? Are you the CEO of Cingular? Are you the technichian on the team that is working to release Cingular PTT?
If the delay on PTT is because of Verizon's Rev. O network, then why would Cingular's PTT be on a delay? If they are releasing PTT over their HSDPA network, which in fact is faster than Rev. O and Rev. A, then it in fact, would be faster than both Verizon's PTT and SprintNextel's qChat.
Honestly, you need to think before you post your stupid guesses.
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how do i know that? well becuase if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already. by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while, and no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s, especially since the fcc limits cell towers and its signals and power. i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s.
again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
nextel18 said:So, sight unseen you've already decided that Cingular PTT will suck, right?
on the cdma network its not good regardless cept for REV A and Qchat.
how do i know that? well becuase if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already. by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while, and no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s, especially since the fcc limits cell towers and its signals and power. i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s.
again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
nextel18 said:So, wait...you've said that it will suck and then you say you'll wait till it comes out to decide if it sucks? Which is it Mr. Contradiction?
exactly. now, we will see if thats the case when they roll it out.
no contradiction my friend. you just dont know how to read things correctly.
nextel18 said:WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING TO US
no. i am saying that it will be bad, but we will have to see if that is the case. thats not a contradiction. my opinion right now, is that it is bad. when it comes out and its not, then my mind will change.
no contradiction my friend. you just dont know how to read things correctly.
"no. i am saying that it will be bad, but we will have to see if that is the case. thats not a contradiction. my opinion right now, is that it is bad. when it comes out and its not, then my mind will change."
That statement is the biggest contradiction you've ever made on this forum.
nextel18 said:That's because you're a nimrod.
yea, you cant understand anything it seems like.
jramossteel said:He's 21, which means he was 8 when Nextel was first offering it's PTT service. And remember...he was using it back then so he knows.
And how old are you might we all ask?
"well because if it was great they would have rolled it out over it already"
They haven't even rolled out HSDPA yet, which you obviously know according to this:
"by the way umts/hsdpa wont be out for a while"
You don't have to tell me this, but you're not exactly right. Cingular is skipping upgrading their network to UMTS and is going straight to upgrading all of their towers and software with HSDPA. That means that since they were projecting end of 2005 for UMTS, its now end of 2005 for HSDPA.
"no one knows that it will go to 14mb/s...i bet it would hit around 2-5mb/s."
Cingular's test market in Atlanta has already reached speeds that fast. There have been press releases abo...
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thus; umts/hsdpa should be dilouted too.
of course i have no idea, but i am allowed to make predictions. again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
nextel18 said:That's "diluted", idiot.
those speeds were in closed. meaning that it was in a closed area, and that it wasnt nationwide on the network meaning speeds should get dilouted as more people use it. i belive ev-do rev o was tested at over 3mb/s and no one is even hitting that. verizon is advertising 300-600kb/s.
thus; umts/hsdpa should be dilouted too.
of course i have no idea, but i am allowed to make predictions. again, cingular wont do well with push to talk.
nextel18 said:Yeah, I've decided I don't give a damn if I'm banned for life...you're literally that annoying.
back to the name calling? how mature.
nextel18 said:I love how you resort to this when we've proven you wrong and you're upset.
aww. what about going out? getting a life?
nextel18 said:Do you undertand how many people have proven you wrong on this site and how many people truly hate you?
i am upset? hahahahahah that is quite funny. i am very happy. if i am proven wrong then i am wrong, i dont take it to heart like you do.
wow you are so insensitive and un real.
cant fathem that someone had a cell phone at 15. you call them a liar, becuase you dont belive them. then you call them names.
you dont have to cry about it seriously. its not a big deal to have a cell phone at 15. lol
wow.
aww, thanks for the compliment.
Cingular's HSDPA test network covers the entire city of Atlanta and some of the surroudning area. What do you think they did, created a whole entire HSDPA network to use one phone to make one phone call? Cingular has HSDPA phones and network cards throughout the entire city and data speeds STILL hit those highs. I don't doubt that the speed will drop somewhat after it is released nationally, but don't make it out like the speeds are going to be so much slower that they'll be sitting still.
again, i will belive it will hit 3-5mb/s if they are lucky. remember speeds dimish if they are away from the cell site. notice why they say "theoretical maximum speeds".
look at this... http://www.convergedigest.com/Daily/daily.asp ?vn=v11n229&fecha=12%2F1%2F2004#Cingular%20Wi reless%20Announces%203G%20Plans "Cingular Wireless Announces 3G Plans
C...
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what do you do for cingular if i may ask?
no you first, no you no you first, no you go first. oh grow up my friend, and your calling me a child? lol hahahha.
i wont insult you for saying that you are lying becuase people sometimes are mistaken, just like i was with roll over. its not a big deal. i never called you a liar i said you were mistaken. you tkae things so out of context its not even funny.
nextel18 said:
it is ok too be wrong.
Justifying your existence?
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
Just thought you missed one speedy... 😛
Good Housekeeping selects Nextel's Nationwide Direct ConnectSM walkie-talkie service as most reliable for emergency communications.
Nextel and Motorola introduce the Motorola i205, a GPS-enabled mobile phone that allows users to instantly communicate from coast-to-coast at the touch of a button using Nextel's Nationwide Direct Connect.SM
http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/company_hi ... »
Okay so article number one... This states that 10/03 was the first instant connection.
http://www.forbes.com/businesstech/2004/02/03/cx_al_ ... »
In the past two years, Nextel's (nasdaq: NXTL - news - people ) Direct Connect service--a nationwide walkie-talkie system that allows multiple users to connect at the push of a button--has been a hit with companies and government agencies involved in national security
Indeed, both financial and industry analysts agree that Nextel's service is superior. It takes about a second to establish a connection on Direct Connect, compared with two to nine seconds on other services.
http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-1011687.html?tag=tec ... »
average latency is a second, Caplan said
http://wirelessreview.com/ »...
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by the way i remember the phone i had which was the i1000 phone. that was about released in sept/oct of 1998 which is about 7 years from now and i used that phone and i didnt have any latency.
maybe it was the i600 but came out in january 1998. but it still says no where about any latencies over 2-3 seconds and i have looked everywhere.
dude, just give it up.
here is something...
http://www.nextel.com/services/dc_testimonials.pdf »
“Direct Connect is the greatest piece of communication
since light and time. I use it with all of my family
members and in my trucks for dispatching. Direct Connect
is fast and reliable. There’s no waiting ... you don’t have to
be put on hold, all answers are instant. I don’t worry about
competition; I have them beat.”
— Freddie Webb, Raven Transport Co., Inc., NC
“We started using Nextel Direct Connect in 1994 as a
secondary form of communication between dispatchers
and couriers. After the first few months, we realized there
was no need for any other type of two-way service. Nextel
Direct Connect has proven...
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http://nextel.com/cgi-bin/localMarketMap.cgi?zip=16701 »
my question to you is that why is the average hold for cingular 5-7 mins?
come on buddy. seriously. know your facts before you speak.
atleast please know what you are talking about. you did well till you said that nextel isnt profitable. stay with the things you know please.
leg mason and Fidelity owns about 220 million shares of nextel or 21 percent of nextel's outstanding shares.
so your wrong.
and half? lets see
cingular= 270 million people it covers
so that means that nextel should cover 135 million people?
well think again..
nextel= 261 million people.
(according to their web sites)
so your wrong.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
speedywalk said:Speed...you are the light in the darkness, my friend. Perfect post.
No it doesn't. That's why POPs are not listed on a coverage map. If all of your POPs (200 million hypothetically speaking) were in Texas, you would have a 200 million POP, but your coverage would be just the State of Texas. POP does not equal coverage. Coverage is synonomous with "calling area" not "mobile-to-mobile community."
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
i know these things too.
nextel18 said:Ties with corporate? A monkey at a mall kiosk has "ties with corporate" because of his direct contact with his manager. I have "corporate ties" with my headquarters because of conference calls. What "corporate ties" are you talking about? We think you're lying to us. Again.
i used to work with nextel and sprint for 2-3 years in sales and in the customer care areas. in the north east. now i have ties with corpw with different companies and the things i have just mentioned.
think of it. you have a brain.
nextel18 said:The only corporate ties you have with Nextel are when your third party wireless vendor manager comes over to your local mall and berates you for being an idiot.
yes, ties with corp. do i have to repeat that 100 times for you to understand that? should i speak in "monkey" terms since you called me a monkey?
think of it. you have a brain.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
so for being 21 i am very successful. have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA.
so i am successful.
anyway, nextel was never at 2-3 second latency 6 years ago. sorry.
". You are in an area different from mine so you could be wrong. Right?"
i could be but i highly doubt it. it would be consistant nationwide.
There's no such thing as good consistant coverage. If that was true, there'd never be any coverage problems and so on.
if you want coverage everywhere get a satelite phone.
nextel18 said:That's "Who's Jackie?". Didn't you pay attention in grade school when all the other children were taught to read and write? Jackie's someone you shouldn't concern yourself with as she, and we, hate your guts.
exactly? yea the coverage isnt consistant everywhere, but the direct connect is consistant everywhere. (especially if there is atleast 1 bar on your phone) whose jackie?
nextel18 said:You shouldn't be frightened. You should be saying to yourself "All these fine people laugh and scorn me whenever I open my mouth...maybe I should take a look at myself and figure out why this is so". But, no, you won't...because you're too stupid.
what a stupid thing. i asked who was jackie. i dont know who she is on here. wow you are pathetic. oh wow, online forum losers hate my guts!!! wow!!!! that scares me!!!! grow up.
i shouldnt be saying anything to myself about people like you. means nothing for people like you to insult me. nothing!!
But if you decide to attack back, don't go around saying people are attacking you. Its very hypocritical. 😛
if they would stop attacking me, then there would be no need to attack them back and defend myself.
thus; direct connect is consistant. but obviously if you have no service it wont work, unless you have off network push to talk.
When I was with Nextel, I needed at least THREE BARS otherwise it WOULDNT WORK. I KNOW what I experienced. 1-2 bars DIDNT cut it.
Im glad it worked for you with less than 3 bars, but as for me, it didn't. It obviously has something to do with the market area.
again, if you have atleast 0-1 bar (and does not say no service) your direct connect should always work.
by the way, what market were you in?
I have no reason to make a thing up, if you choose not to believe me, that's your business, but I know what I experienced.
I live in Chicago,...
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by the way, again, as long as you have atleast 1 bar or it doesnt say no service with 0 bars you can make direct connect calls, however, with regular calling it will be extremly difficult.
for example, i was in NYC one of the heaviest markets with capacity problems, and i had 0-1 bar and i could DC fine and with no delay etc..
nyc has a bigger problem with capacity then chicago does, and if in nyc you can dc with atleast 0-1 bars your Atleast 2-3 bars is flawed and not true.
makes no sense my friend.
Expand your horizons 'my friend'.
dont make things up please
If I was going to make up something bad about bad service, I would have made it alot jucier than that. If you'd like, my brother to this day still has that problem with his Nextel phone, if you ever are in the Chicago area, let me know, we'll meet up, and I'll be more than happy to prove you wrong 🙂
your not honest. again, i just did it with 0-1 bars and it worked fine. i dont think you understand the purpose of direct connect and how much signal you can use so that it can DC. especially with my example with nyc for you and about the example with the whole situation with idling and dcing.
Just because you make things up about carriers, doesn't mean everyone does.
Like I said, if you're ever in Chicago, let me know, we'll meet up and I'll prove you wrong. 🙂 It'll be a breeze to do so.
i never make up anything about other carriers.
sorry.
nextel18 said:
yea, most people would make up things about the service, becuase they dont like them. ( dont worry i did that with sprint after i left them)
situation with idling and dcing.
nextel18 said:
no i am not doing it consistantly in my market. when i go to nyc, nj, cali, miami, penn, col, i never have problems with latency and with the 2-3 bars that you say YOU ATLEAST NEED TO DIRECT CONNECT. its not true.
i never make up anything about other carriers.
Oxymoron
if nyc, cali, boston can have 0-1 and DC can go through, Chicago doesnt need 2-3 to go through. that was the point.
nextel18 said:Sure. And you would know that from the mall kiosk you work at. "Excuse me, Sir...while you're passing by would you like to try a Nextel phone and service? Sir? Sir!!??".
you should, becuase cingular will never have a decent push to talk system.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
sorry, my friend, you are mistaken.
and your market "delay" doesnt mean nationwide it had a delay which it didnt. it has always been sub 1 sec latency, cept the time they started it in 1995 approx.
sorry.
nextel18 said:
they had nationwide direct connect in 2000 and that was extremly successful. so your latency claim is false.
Wow. How about this directly from Nextel's own webpage:
NEXTEL said:
In August 2003, Nextel was the first to provide coast-to-coast walkie-talkie service with Nationwide Direct Connect
Don't believe me?
http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/profile.shtml »
It's listed under Product Innovation.
This simple arrogance is what makes you look like the fool you truly are. And you wonder why we want you to prove that the service WAS that way, coast-to-coast, which, as noted in my previous findings (all of 30 seconds of research), was not the case. Th...
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speedywalk said:...nextel18 said:
they had nationwide direct connect in 2000 and that was extremly successful. so your latency claim is false.
Wow. How about this directly from Nextel's own webpage:NEXTEL said:
In August 2003, Nextel was the first to provide coast-to-coast walkie-talkie service with Nationwide Direct Connect
Don't believe me?
http://www.nextel.com/about/corporateinfo/profile.shtml »
It's listed under Product Innovation.
This simple arrogance is what makes you look like the fool you truly are. And you wonder why we want you to prove that the service WAS that way, coast-to-coast, which, as noted in my previous find
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If you base your entire argument on something that is incorrect, that means that your argument is base on a false claim. In a literary/logical sense this is what we call a "false premise agrument." Take this for example:
Because the earth's sky is red, and water is blue, it follows that all skies are red and all water is blue.
How incorrect is that? We know the sky is blue, not red here on earth. Therefore, the argument is false. Let's try this one out:
Nextel had their nationwide PTT network with less that 1 second response time by 2000.
Let's examine this closer:
Nextel had their nationwide PTT . . . by 2000.
Wrong. They didn't. Therefore the ENTIRE ar...
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Good explanation Speedy, but honestly it's not going to make a bit of difference. Why? Because this dude's a Troll!
Nextel18, that's not an insult, nor is it technically name calling. It's a term for what you're doing here with this thread. The original post was to ask about Cingular's PTT testing. You decided to interject an opinion that you knew would incite what has amounted to a load of garbage. That's trolling, that makes you a board troll.
No one seems to think that your info is helpful, inciteful, or even wanted from what I can tell. In short, to quote a great man: "If you've got nothing nice to say, SHUT THE F UP!"
by the way, he doesnt want to get over the point and fact that i said i made a mistake about the reading about the article and google 100 times. he wont go over it.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
last time lets see if you get it this time.
1. i made a mistake with the google search and it said that then i clicked on the link then i didnt read the date on the article.
conclusion; I READ IT WRONG!!! it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot. move on already. gas is in the car, the steering wheel is working, just change that gear.
nextel18 said:
it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot.
It sounds that way because we both understand the concept of debate and the rules of logic. The fallacy that you are presenting is taught in Logic 101 at most colleges.
The unicorn is one of nature's most magnificent creatures. Therefore its offspring will be just as magnificent.
Reminiscent of:
Nextel's nationwide PTT had less than one second latency in 2000. Therefore Cingular's will be higher.
Both statments are false.
Since the unicorn doesn't exist, any statement regarding it cannot be taken as fact.
Since Nextel's nationwide PTT didn't exist until 2003, any statement regarding ...
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Since the unicorn doesn't exist, any statement regarding it cannot be taken as fact.
Since Nextel's nationwide PTT didn't exist until 2003, any statement regarding it before 2003 is false.
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wow. thats all i have to say. and your saying i am stuck in reverse. hahah well thats what you and much talk about. just staying in the past. its ok i guess. move on already.
nextel18 said:We don't move on because you constantly make mistakes like this one.
wow, you are quite pathetic. move on already.
last time lets see if you get it this time.
1. i made a mistake with the google search and it said that then i clicked on the link then i didnt read the date on the article.
conclusion; I READ IT WRONG!!! it sounds like you and muchdrama are the same people becuase you cant move on from that spot. move on already. gas is in the car, the steering wheel is working, just change that gear.
nextel18 said:You spell, write, and punctuate like a retard, and I'm not that bright? LOL. Good luck with ITT.
no, you cant move on, becuase your not bright. i already said that i made a mistake on it, smart one. move on.
As for something being a fact. Look up the definition of fact. Something is only a fact if it's backed up by credible information. You made it clear that Nextel is your favorite carrier and you think that others will not live up to it. It may be based on your observations, but since others may or may not have the same experiences it's refutable, that makes it an opinion.
Lastly, there is NO ...
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sprint, and verizon rolled out push to talk and theirs were terrible. verizon recently rolled out their new version over the DO network, and its still terrible, yet improved. thus; i can say that nextel is the best in the push to talk field, and i will continue to say that till i see a provider that is better. again, cingular/att wireless wont be better then nextel's ptt system. if you cant handle that then y...
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But as I stated, the original post was asking specifically about Cingular's testing. Since comments about other carriers weren't solicited, they shouldn't be offered. It's inappropriate and uncalled for. It seems that you only did it to fire people up and "stir the sh*t" as it were. That's trolling. Stop it.
You can say that all you like. And no one's disputing that Nextel has the best PTT network right now. Not saying that there's NO latency, cause that would be damn near impossible across the entire network ALL the time.
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wrong! its instant my friend.
"It's inappropriate and uncalled for. It seems that you only did it to fire people up and "stir the s___" as it were. That's trolling. Stop it. "
it wasnt inappropriate. it was perfect. i didnt do it for that reason. i did it becuase i wanted to post the information so that person would know.
you seemed to be getting fired up over it. its a shame. its just a forum. get over it.
Yet again, with my statements you're trolling. There's no reason to tell me to get over anything, I'm not being emphatic, rude, or overly zealous about anything.
You just seem to want to stir up sh*t, thereby violating T&C's of this site. For that I sincerely hope you're banned, it can only make for a better read while I'm here at work.
By the way, no one and nothing is perfect. To believe that one or something is, is insanity. You need to learn your place in the world and come to terms with the reality that being stubborn, abrasive, and arrogant are not desireable qualities, be they on the internet or in personal interactions.
so, i dont sorry. those arent my intentions at all. sorry.
My point is that you knew it would turn ugly the minute you responded to the original post the way you did. If your intention was not to troll then you wouldn't have responded that way.
I'm glad you like your carrier, but ya know most of us are happy with ours too. These are all opinions, we shouldn't shoot off at the mouth because we believe them to be true.
again, if there is news about another carrier that effects another carrier i will post it, due to competition.
i didnt know it would turn ugly, becuase i didnt know that people on here take everything someone says to heart. you dont see me going off on someone for them saying nextel or sprint is bad. i just say thats good thats your opinon, but your reasoning doesnt back it up.
thats all i do. post information then have discussions. if people want to react like they are reacting something is wrong.
nextel18 said:Right. So if someone asks "Does anyone have any idea if Cin...
i didnt start with those off topic conversations. much drama and SF and someone else did. i just continued with the conversation.
again, if there is news about another carrier that effects another carrier i will post it, due to competition.
i didnt know it would turn ugly, becuase i didnt know that people on here take everything someone says to heart. you dont see me going off on someone for them saying nextel or sprint is bad. i just say thats good thats your opinon, but your reasoning doesnt back it up.
thats all i do. post information then have discussions. if people want to react like they are reacting something is wrong.
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nextel18 said:Results for what? Crash wanted to know people's thoughts on how good they thought Cingular PTT will be. Your answer not only had nothing to do with the question, but it incited the room into trying to kill you.
it doesnt sound stupid. its my opinion, based on the other companies' results or lack there of.
nextel18 said:You are aware that Kokiak's PTT solution is working quite well in Europe right? You're in for a surprise, Captain Irrational.
i was just basing my opinion, on what the previous competitors' did against nextel and that cingular wont have a chance and wont be as good as nextel's.
Mmm... PTV...
This is true of ALL PTT systems....they're an annoying public nuisance and thier use should be stricktly limited to businesses with on-site employees where it actually does some good.
"Instant Call Set-up – Subscribers can set-up any communications session in 2 - 3 seconds. Kodiak
requires only the originator to be a subscriber to the Kodiak Voice Bridge. Other wireless phones can
receive Kodiak Voice Bridge calls."
http://www.kodiaknetworks.com/solutions/InstantCalli ... »
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oh yea thats quite fast!
by the way, it can be a great solution by itself, but it will be dilouted once it hits gsm and cdma just like motorola's push to talk solution that sprint and verizon used.
muchdrama said:You dumbass. Read the sentence again. "Kokdiak's PTT solution". It shows ownership. Idiot.nextel18 said:You are aware that Kokiak's PTT solution is working quite well in Europe right? You're in for a surprise, Captain Irrational.
i was just basing my opinion, on what the previous competitors' did against nextel and that cingular wont have a chance and wont be as good as nextel's.
nextel18 said:Correct. And if you wanted to show ownership you'd say "Kokiak's". See? Good boy.
you shouldnt be making fun of yourself. its called kodiak.
nextel18 said:True. But if Kodiak owns the patent to its particular type of PTT, it's Kodiak's PTT. Got it? Good.
its KODIAKKKKKKKKKK
Only because of your previous spelling and grammar comments. I know it's annoying, but it's what trolls do. 🙄
disturbed1 said:Acutally, I was showing ownership. He thinks I'm saying Kokiaks, when I'm really saying Kodiak's. See the ownership, Nextool?
he's correcting your spelling. K-o-d-i-a-k
Only because of your previous spelling and grammar comments. I know it's annoying, but it's what trolls do. 🙄
PTB-- Push To Bitchslap
disturbed1 said:What about PTD? Push to Detonate.
I don't know if you checked out Phonescoop on April Fool's day, but ya know what we could use right about now???
PTB-- Push To Bitchslap
nextel18 said:...
well, i am allowed to state about any competition that is there. cingular's competition with push to talk, if they roll it out, would be nextel, sprint and verizon. i was saying that they wont even meet the speeds of nextel's nor would they take many subscribers from nextel too. they could, however, take some from sprint and verizon.
sprint, and verizon rolled out push to talk and theirs were terrible. verizon recently rolled out their new version over the DO network, and its still terrible, yet improved. thus; i can say that nextel is the best in the push to talk field, and i will continue to say that till i see a provider that is better. again, cingular/att wireless wont be better then nextel's ptt sys
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yep, thats what i said. its a fact, my friend. then i started to elaborate on what i was saying.
nextel18 said:Blah, blah, blah...name calling this, name calling that. Suck it up and be a man.
name callings? i thought Rich said not to do name calling? going against authority huh? how interesting. but you lie too, so thats nothing new.
yep, thats what i said. its a fact, my friend. then i started to elaborate on what i was saying.
you sound like your 2 instead of 35 or however old you are.
nextel18 said:He said not to do it? That's your defense? And I'm the 2 year old? I think it's time to ignore you again. At least for a little while. Maybe not.
nope, you are a liar. he said not to do it, yet you do.
you sound like your 2 instead of 35 or however old you are.
time to ignore me again? how long will that last 1 min? hahah.
nextel18 said:Nope. Tool.
yea, you are exactly like much. you 2 dont know how to move on what was said to the next thing. this is the thing that i said after you posted your post. I SAID THAT I READ THE DATE WRONG ON THE ARTICLE and FROM SEARCHING ON GOOGLE WITH THAT DATE. that is the last time i will say it becuase you cant budge from that gear. move on already.
Let's see...I've been to Canada, Mexico, Cayman Islands, Jamaica, the Azors, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Israel, S. Korea, Japan, Vietnam...and you don't see me bragging about being success. You only brag if you're insecure.
Proably have done a great many things you will never get the opportunity to do also.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
You need to have a bachelor's degree first. An associate's degree or 2 will not get you into any MBA school. I don't care how rich you really are.
after 1 and a half or so years, i will be getting my bach's degree.
Above is a direct quote from you....to me, that says that you do not have anything yet.
SForsyth01 said:No offense, but ITT Tech's a joke. Always has been, always will be. It's where people that can't handle real college go to pick up a skill to fend for themselves.
"and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA."
Above is a direct quote from you....to me, that says that you do not have anything yet.
but did you see the best one, drama....he is now telling me that I didn't ever work at CompUSA. Wonderful....now he knows what I did in my life better than I do.
Next thing I know, he will be telling me that I don't have any college degrees.
idiot.
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
speedywalk said:Yeah, he called me on that as well. Circuit City used to carry Nextel about 6 years ago, but we ended our affiliation with them because of complaints from customers and poor overall service.
And how he also claimed that I was lieing about seein Nextel dumped from my store for over a year!
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
SForsyth01 said:I just can't keep my mouth shut sometimes. He's going on about how Cingular PTT will suck before it comes out.
I agree completely....
but did you see the best one, drama....he is now telling me that I didn't ever work at CompUSA. Wonderful....now he knows what I did in my life better than I do.
Next thing I know, he will be telling me that I don't have any college degrees.
idiot.
And he thinks he knows what we have done and currently do in our lives better than we do. The last time I checked, God was the only one that could know all of that....so he must be....Wait....nevermind....God would never work in a mall kiosk.
SForsyth01 said:I try to ignore his stupidity unless he says something outright incorrect. Here's a few examples:
Yeah, he is a moron. It is plain for everyone to see. He thinks he knows everything about everything whether it has been launched yet or not.
And he thinks he knows what we have done and currently do in our lives better than we do. The last time I checked, God was the only one that could know all of that....so he must be....Wait....nevermind....God would never work in a mall kiosk.
1)Nextel owns Qchat (and he works for Nextel folks!)
2)Verizon does not operate on 1900mhz.
3)Cingular will not be profitable for 77 years.
SForsyth01 said:Eh, I won't waste my time or yours.
You are just scratching the surface. Let it all out, drama.
SForsyth01 said:Actually, I think that can be applied to businesses. I might be insane, though.
Hey, did you know that growth of a company is called "organic growth?" Last time I checked that was a term in science defining the growth of organisms.
SForsyth01 said:Google it and you'll see what I mean.
It may be....but I was never taught it in my 6 years of school. I was always taught that it was organizational growth.
nextel18 said:What are you yapping at me for? I don't give a rat's ass.
it can be assigned to businesses. i also provided some links where they actually mention organic growth there. so that is a word that is used in the business world.
nextel18 said:Well, I care when I talk with Scotty. But you? Nope. Not one bit.
yes, you care. you said you think that it is, as well as that he should check google. so you obviously care, or else you wouldnt have even mentioned it.
if you dont care. stop posting to me. you promised a few times saying that you wouldnt post to me, then you do. seems like you care.
nextel18 said:I can spell, punctuate, read, and write. I've got one leg up on you.
face it, becuase your not smart,
lets go over it one more time for you so you will understand. i will do it in an outline form.
1. currently
a. associates degree in business admin/mgmt.
b. going for bach's in business admin/mgmt
2. future
a. go to ITT for some sorta associates degree
b. maybe go for my masters in business admin/mgmt.
c. maybe go after i complete my associates degree at ITT i will get my bach's
3. conclusion.
a. i hope you get it.
b. i hope you understand it.
c. please say you do.
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hahha anyway lets hope you get it now.
nextel18 said:
yea, you arent the brightest it seems like.
lets go over it one more time for you so you will understand. i will do it in an outline form.
1. currently
a. associates degree in business admin/mgmt.
b. going for bach's in business admin/mgmt
2. future
a. go to ITT for some sorta associates degree
b. maybe go for my masters in business admin/mgmt.
c. maybe go after i complete my associates degree at ITT i will get my bach's
3. conclusion.
a. i hope you get it.
b. i hope you understand it.
c. please say you do.
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hahha anyway lets hope you get it now.
Yeah. We get it. You want to get two AA degrees.
lets do it again.
1. CURRENTLY HAVE
a. associates in business administration.
2. GOING FOR.
a. going for bach's in BA
3. Future
a. going for masters in BA
b. going for ITT associates and maybe bach's.
do i have to do it any other way for you to possibly understand?
nextel18 said:
well apparently you still dont get it.
lets do it again.
1. CURRENTLY HAVE
a. associates in business administration.
2. GOING FOR.
a. going for bach's in BA
3. Future
a. going for masters in BA
b. going for ITT associates and maybe bach's.
do i have to do it any other way for you to possibly understand?
It's not that we don't see what you're putting down on paper, it's that it makes NO sense. You have an AA in Business. Great, fine, and dandy. But you also want another AA at ITT? Why? What on Earth do you want with two AAs? Who goes for two AAs? You also state that you want two BAs: One in Business, and one at ITT? That doesn't make any sense either.
it makes perfect sense. again, i want to be well rounded.
nextel18 said:ITT is a place for people who can't handle actual college work to gain a skill they can support themselves with.
it makes perfect sense. i want to be well rounded. to have a few degrees in BA and then degrees with technology. that is what ITT is, that is if you understand.
it makes perfect sense. again, i want to be well rounded.
"ITT Educational Services, Inc. is a leading private college system focused on technology-oriented programs of study. It operates over 75 ITT Technical Institutes in 29 states which predominantly provide career-focused, degree programs to approximately 40,000 students. Headquartered in Carmel, Indiana, it has been actively involved in the higher education community in the United States since 1969"
looks good to me.
nextel18 said:When I was in High School we sent the idiots to "Technical School".
morning.. no ITT is a school for people who want to get an education with the technology side. go search ittech.edu
"ITT Educational Services, Inc. is a leading private college system focused on technology-oriented programs of study. It operates over 75 ITT Technical Institutes in 29 states which predominantly provide career-focused, degree programs to approximately 40,000 students. Headquartered in Carmel, Indiana, it has been actively involved in the higher education community in the United States since 1969"
looks good to me.
nextel18 said:Sure it is. Keep aiming high, Ace.
i know what you are talking about. like vocational tech schools and things of that sort, however, ITT tech is a lot different then those kinda schools.
nextel18 said:
of course it is, my friend. i always aim high. its good to have high goals, becuase most of the time you accomplish them.
At ITT. Riiiiiiiight.
"Riiiiiiiight."
wow, a dude saying that an a 34 year old saying that? how interesting.
nextel18 said:Slow at the mall today?
yep, at ITT.
"Riiiiiiiight."
wow, a dude saying that an a 34 year old saying that? how interesting.
you have nothing to do huh? thats sad. go out, get a life.
nextel18 said:I'm posting you poolside, buddy.
hahah, how retarded. i am not at the mall sorry.
you have nothing to do huh? thats sad. go out, get a life.
i feel bad.
are you very dumb sir? I TOLD YOU I HAVE AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE!!! jeez. very selective seeing it looks like.
"then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's. then maybe go for my MBA. "
That is one of your statements. To me, that says that you don't have s*** yet.
nextel18 said:So, you've got your AA in Business, and you're going for your BA. But you also want to get an AA and BA from ITT? You're not making any sense.
right if you read it correctly it says when i go to ITT i would like to get my associates degree with that school. BUT I ALREADY HAVE MY ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN BUSINESS MGMT AND I AM GOING FOR RIGHT NOT FOR MY BACH'S. come on now.
my goals
1. have bach's in business administatrion
2. get an associates in ITT tech or some school like that.
3. get masters in BA
4. maybe get bach's in ITT.
makes perfect sense to me.
nextel18 said:And you only.
i am making plenty of sense. basically i want more degrees. how does that not make any sense?
my goals
1. have bach's in business administatrion
2. get an associates in ITT tech or some school like that.
3. get masters in BA
4. maybe get bach's in ITT.
makes perfect sense to me.
you just cant think. it makes perfect sense to me and my peeps and others. sorry. just only you, SF doesnt get it. but thats ok, you guys have no lives anyway. not a big deal.
nextel18 said:I have a Bachelor of Science in Telecommunication Operations from the University of Florida (go Gators!), and an MBA from the University of Florida. See how I spell and punctuate that so well? I'm also a widower (do you even know what that is?) with a young son that I'm raising on my own (age: 3 years old). I'm also an Operations Manager for Circuit City, which I've been doing for 2...
it doesnt make sense to you becuase you probably dont have an education, and you argue with 21 year olds, becuase you have no other life.
you just cant think. it makes perfect sense to me and my peeps and others. sorry. just only you, SF doesnt get it. but thats ok, you guys have no lives anyway. not a big deal.
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what are you going to be selling?
nextel18 said:
have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's.
So? Which is it? You seem to make so much stuff up that you can't keep it all straight! If you tell the truth, you don't have to make stuff up to cover your butt.
In the course of 25 words you have single handedly destroyed every shred of credibility you had (and that wasn't much). Rule number one about debate--don't contradict yourself in your argument. That makes you:
- Look stupid
- Lose credibility
- Lose the debate
- Defeat yourself
I would lo ...
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speedywalk said:...
You're not very successful. You're a contradiction. Let me make this simple for you:nextel18 said:
have an associates going for bach's and then probably go to ITT tech or something like that to get my associates then maybe my bach's.
So? Which is it? You seem to make so much stuff up that you can't keep it all straight! If you tell the truth, you don't have to make stuff up to cover your butt.
In the course of 25 words you have single handedly destroyed every shred of credibility you had (and that wasn't much). Rule number one about debate--don't contradict yourself in your argument. That makes you:
- Look stupid
- Lose credibility
- Lose the debate
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1. i have an associates degree in BA and going for my bach's.
2. after i get my bach's in ba i have a few choices that i want to do.
a. go to ITT and get an associates in something there
b. get my masters in BA.
hope you understand that.
nextel18 said:You sell phones at a Mall Kiosk. That isn't "industry work". Industry work means management, corporate sales, customer service from a corporate service center.
i already told you, i worked in the industry and i have ties to the industry. i talk to tech people, IR people, execs almost every day.
i know these things too.
muchdrama said:nextel18 said:You sell phones at a Mall Kiosk. That isn't "industry work". Industry work means management, corporate sales, customer service from a corporate service center.
i already told you, i worked in the industry and i have ties to the industry. i talk to tech people, IR people, execs almost every day.
i know these things too.
Correct-a-mundo! Sorry.
Correct. If you are "in the industry" you are in some shape, manner, or form affiliated with a CORPORATE location. The corporate locations get all the training, collateral, communications, directives, and what not that dealers, mall kiosks, and friends of "tech people (because THEY would be the ones ...
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nextel18 said:Exactly. You think. And when Circuit City was carrying Nextel about 6-7 years ago, the company almost immediately canceled the contract we had made because of Nextel's poor performance and customer complaints about their service.
i think maybe it was 2-3 seconds when they actually rolled it out first and maybe 1 year or 2 after words.
just like radio shack said that wireless will do bad becuase sprint is opening up more stores and selling it through their channels. does that mean wireless is doing bad? of course not. same with circuit city. they are just different channels.
again, i had nextel 6 years ago and there was no 2-3 second delay. i am not sure about the 7th year becuase i didnt have them.
nextel18 said:
what else is knew.
Wonderful english!!!! Absolutely wonderful.
And I am so sure that a 15 year old would think to ask a sales rep about latency of direct connect. In fact, I believe I asked a sales rep about that when I was 5.
SForsyth01 said:He still doesn't understand what latency means. Go ahead, buddy...explain what it means to us.
How in the hell would you have any clue what latency was when you were 15???? You probably didn't even know the definition of the word.
SForsyth01 said:I was a quiet dork that did nothing but read.
All I cared about when I was 21 was where I was getting drunk at next and how I was gonna get laid that night. I didn't give 2 s***s about latency of direct connect.
Nextel is a spoiled rich brat that buys his women.
SForsyth01 said:You don't believe I was a quiet dork? LOL. Oh, if you could have only seen me at 21. Pfft. Pathetic. Is Nextel rich? How do we know that?
I don't believe that for 1 minute. But, to each his own.
Nextel is a spoiled rich brat that buys his women.
SForsyth01 said:I think he may have made that up to explain him having a cell phone at 13. And no offense...I've NEVER in my life met a Jewish person so utterly stupid. Jewish folks educate their children VERY well.
Read more of the PTT thread. He admits to being a rich jew. His dad bought him everything he ever wanted, including a cell phone at 13 years old.
But the thing that doesn't add up is Jewish folks do NOT waste money at all. That is why most of them are rich. And giving a 13 year old a cell phone would DEFINATELY be wasting money.
SForsyth01 said:Let's not start getting into the whole Jewish thing as it makes me a little uncomfortable. Remember, we've got some Jewish folks on this site...specifically KnifeySpooney. Jewish folks are usually well off 'cause they're excellent with finances and they keep businesses and skills within the family for generations.
Normally....but there is always the exception. Nextel18 seems to be the exception to everything.
But the thing that doesn't add up is Jewish folks do NOT waste money at all. That is why most of them are rich. And giving a 13 year old a cell phone would DEFINATELY be wasting money.
That's just another rule that nextel18 is the exception to. That is the point I was making.
There is a link of where the conversation where he admits to being a rich bitch starts. Just start there and read forward.
nextel18 said:Bullshit...'cause 6 years ago I witnessed it personally.
becuase i had nextel 6 years ago and i didnt have any latency that your claiming.
fyi i am jewish and us jews we get a nice amount of money when we are 13.
its about time come on lalalallall hahahha
nextel18 said:
it doesnt make any difference if circuit city carries nextel or not. it is just a different channel of selling something. it doesnt mean that nextel's service was bad. anway look at their churn from then till now and then arpu.
just like radio shack said that wireless will do bad becuase sprint is opening up more stores and selling it through their channels. does that mean wireless is doing bad? of course not. same with circuit city. they are just different channels.
again, i had nextel 6 years ago and there was no 2-3 second delay. i am not sure about the 7th year becuase i didnt have them.
You didn't have Nextel 6-7 years ago because you were 13 years old. Or did you forget when you ...
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i always post accurate information. you just cant take it especially if its against your carrier.
jramossteel said:
And Nextel did not always have their less than one second delay... Or do you not remeber that?
Of course he doesn't. Because ten years ago (actually even longer than that) he was 10 years old still playing with whatever was popular with kids 10 years old. Nextel took its time over a decade or longer perfecting PTT.
From about as high up the corporate ladder as you can go:
PTT will be out around christmas. No sooner.
Different areas may have different problems with latency, then and now.
We know what we are talking about. He isn't worth our time.
We have more important things to concern ourselves with and even though we have proven him wrong (when I say we I mean all of you since I haven't been here) he is still childish and can't admit to it.
Ok im done. I just don't think this should go on any longer.
Its not worth the headache it is gonna give you to argue with someone who obviously knows little about the topic though. 🙂
And you all are sooooo much above him in intellect. 😁
He is really frustrating me. I have been trying to leave him alone and not point out how much of an idiot he really is....but he is really out of line today..... 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈
So how are you today??? 😁
Obviously we are getting nowhere. Speedy, Hero I just read over your posts and you guys have proven him wrong so many times and he still continues to argue.
He calls you all liars and refuses to believe the truth.
If I were you I would just say forget it and ignore him cuz obviously he isn't worth it.
Just my opinion.
SForsyth01 said:
Hey, Shay....your point is well taken. But sometimes it gets so frustrating to see all of these false posts that we just can't help ourselves and our male egos take over and we just have to prove him wrong again. 😈 😈 😈 😈 😈
Friggin' testosterone....by the way Forsythe, my car is bigger than yours! 😛 😛 LOL!
Speedywalk
"It ain't broke, it just needs duct tape!"
I feel insulted. 😈
Besides the testosterone comment called for anything I could reply with. 😛
SForsyth01 said:
She enjoys doing it. But then she will yell at us when we get rowdy. 🙄 😉
Lies! Im a little angel. 😈