Dumbest Customer EVER
and after spending 20 minutes explaining why thats not possible unless he migrates, he proceeds to tell that he is a)gonna sue us for breach of contract, since he states his contract gives him the right to add on new lines if he chooses, and then tells me this would have not happened if the Republicans han not been re-elected π π
Customer calls in and wants to get credit on the account, she has 2 lines one on tdma and one on gsm, she got a rep to cxl her account and waive her ETF, damn rep out of Bothell WA, and noted,customer is loyal and has another account with us,so that was done, but not paying the bills, and hits me up for credit-BIG MISTAKE, she mentions loyalty again, and DEMADS I RESEARCH IT NOW-BIGGER MISTAKE π π
I research it, i am dual trained on both the tdma and gsm systems.Loyalty got us from her total of 5 tdma accounts- 1 active, 2 cancelled, ans 2 more written off within 18 months.So after that, i reversed the ETF, we don't wa...
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lexical said:
See, π’ , there's nothing like a fellow rep who does his job correctly. I'm so proud of you, man... Keep up the good work π
well i like the motto of stone cold, thats why i picked the handle "DTA don't trust anyone or , you mess with mew son, i open a fresh can of whoop a$$, thats the bottom line cuz i said so!" π π π π
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Try this one, customer calls in, has a blue and orange acount, got 2 lines through blue just prior to Day 1, and then last week went wanted a third line to add to his blue family package, was told at store no more blue lines being sold, just orange, so he gets a line on orange, now wants us to link two 2 acounts into, while still keeping 2 lines on blue and 1 on l orange.
and after spending 20 minutes explaining why thats not possible unless he migrates, he proceeds to tell that he is a)gonna sue us for breach of contract, since he states his contract gives him the right to add on new lines if he chooses, and then tells me this would have not happened if the Republicans han not been re-elected π
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repCB said:...austin316 said:
Try this one, customer calls in, has a blue and orange acount, got 2 lines through blue just prior to Day 1, and then last week went wanted a third line to add to his blue family package, was told at store no more blue lines being sold, just orange, so he gets a line on orange, now wants us to link two 2 acounts into, while still keeping 2 lines on blue and 1 on l orange.
and after spending 20 minutes explaining why thats not possible unless he migrates, he proceeds to tell that he is a)gonna sue us for breach of contract, since he states his contract gives him the right to add on new lines if he chooses, and then tells me this would have not happened if the Republicans h
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not_in_halifax said:...repCB said:austin316 said:
Try this one, customer calls in, has a blue and orange acount, got 2 lines through blue just prior to Day 1, and then last week went wanted a third line to add to his blue family package, was told at store no more blue lines being sold, just orange, so he gets a line on orange, now wants us to link two 2 acounts into, while still keeping 2 lines on blue and 1 on l orange.
and after spending 20 minutes explaining why thats not possible unless he migrates, he proceeds to tell that he is a)gonna sue us for breach of contract, since he states his contract gives him the right to add on new lines if he chooses, and then tells me this wou
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Here's a call I just had:
Customer(blue) calls in
Customer: I need to go over my bill i believe there's an error with it.
Me:Sure let me bring up your invoice.
Customerπ²k see all those additional minutes, those were cingular calls and other att customers, why didn't my mobile to mobile get used.
Me:OK sir you are on a national plan 59.99 from may, 2003, you never had mobile to mobile.
Customerπon't you know anything about your company.When the merger was done we were all given free mobile to mobile to cingular and att customers, don't you watch your own comercials
Me:Sir that means if you had m2m before it was only att customers, now it expanded to cingular custome...
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austin316 said:
Customer:No i hate cingular, don't you know customer service boy...
Apparently so. Well done, austin316, well done.
davidg4781 said:
Well, if his contract did state he would be able to add more lines to his account, and if the company didn't give him consideration for not allowing him to, the company is in breach. He can then sue or walk away from the contract with no ETF. Of course, that's just law. Who cares about that, right?
Nobody's contract EVER states that he/she would be guarenteed to add more lines.We state in the T&C, that the company has the right to limit lines of service, subject to availability, with no prior notification needed to be given.
For instance, when my bill was added up incorrectly and I called about it, the rep said that if a call started at 859 pm and lasted 2 hours, it would be 2 hours of daytime minutes, not 1 min of daytime and 1 hr 59 min of night time min. I told him that was dumb and asked why I wasnt' told about it sooner. H said it's in your T&C, so I got out all of the paperwork that came with my phone and read through it with him on the phone. I didn't have a copy that stated that, so, therefore, I'm not bound by those terms....
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davidg4781 said:...
For instance, when my bill was added up incorrectly and I called about it, the rep said that if a call started at 859 pm and lasted 2 hours, it would be 2 hours of daytime minutes, not 1 min of daytime and 1 hr 59 min of night time min. I told him that was dumb and asked why I wasnt' told about it sooner. H said it's in your T&C, so I got out all of the paperwork that came with my phone and read through it with him on the phone. I didn't have a copy that stated that, so, therefore, I'm not bound by those terms. If one of my calls lasts through 9pm, I can legally get the minutes after 9 on the NW part. But, I think, through all of the minutes I used, only 2 minutes were from that. The rest of the min
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Icyhot said:
What if a call starts at 6:55am, and last for 2 hours. Is that going to be a free call entirely?
Not on the new plans! π
(provided said caller does not have 7-7-7)
LilShorty said:...davidg4781 said:
For instance, when my bill was added up incorrectly and I called about it, the rep said that if a call started at 859 pm and lasted 2 hours, it would be 2 hours of daytime minutes, not 1 min of daytime and 1 hr 59 min of night time min. I told him that was dumb and asked why I wasnt' told about it sooner. H said it's in your T&C, so I got out all of the paperwork that came with my phone and read through it with him on the phone. I didn't have a copy that stated that, so, therefore, I'm not bound by those terms. If one of my calls lasts through 9pm, I can legally get the minutes after 9 on the NW part. But, I think, through all of the minutes I used, only 2 minutes
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I advised her unfortunately she needs to be in Cingular systems to get this promotion.
Customer sounded disgusted that we can't get her Rollover on her current AWS plan.
"I am sorry lady but you see, you are in AWS systems, this is a Cingular promotion, you are not eligable for it because of this MAJOR factor, does this make sense? Checbacca is a Wookie, he lives on Endor, Ewoks live on Endor, now that does not make sense."
I love using the Wookie defense, even if I didn't actually use it on the call. I wish I could use it on calls.
Link said:
I had a customer call in and was wondering when she gets the benefit of Rollover cause now she under Cingular.
I advised her unfortunately she needs to be in Cingular systems to get this promotion.
Customer sounded disgusted that we can't get her Rollover on her current AWS plan.
"I am sorry lady but you see, you are in AWS systems, this is a Cingular promotion, you are not eligable for it because of this MAJOR factor, does this make sense? Checbacca is a Wookie, he lives on Endor, Ewoks live on Endor, now that does not make sense."
I love using the Wookie defense, even if I didn't actually use it on the call. I wish I could use it on calls.
hhahahaha if someone brought up the ew...
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Here's a thought to chew on:
Once, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away (for the benefit of the wookie fan) customers were seen as important to the businesses they patronized. With the many mergers that have happened along the way, the importance of a single customer has diminished to the point where a customer service rep, a person pretty low on the totem pole at any corporation, feels the right to berate and ridicule a customer they ought to spend more time serving.
Yes, we are ofen confused. Yes, sometimes...
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woland said:
Apparantly all of you think of us, the customers, as bad, stupid children that need to be brought to heel, taught a lesson in obedience, etc.
Not all customers, but there are some ones that make you go "huh?", so to say...
On another note, your monthly cell phone bill is over $400? We need to change your price plan or something...
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You got that right. BUT, the point is, they don't. I think that is 1 reason why the implimented those Customer Service Summaries. I wonder if that has helped the calling in at all???
tadams said:
BINGO! π
You got that right. BUT, the point is, they don't. I think that is 1 reason why the implimented those Customer Service Summaries. I wonder if that has helped the calling in at all???
what is that? i never got one when i signed up for cingular? oh well, it doesnt matter, cingulars bills are WAY easy to read
Still-Learning said:
And as a fellow customer, it makes me feel good that a rep such as you would agree with what that person said, and understand his position. I too thought it was well written and expressed his opinions in a well spoken manner. We need more reps like you Bigern π
Roger that an kudos to the customer's post. On a side note, I'm definately a fan of BigErn, including his movie taste and handle choice... π
On that note, the forum creates good fodder for me to read at work. I would never take anything a CSR/REP said on these forums to heart as to effect me switching carriers. "Sir, why do you want to leave such-n-such wireless?" - I heard some of your most abused, lowest paid employees talking sh** on an internet forum...
I'm just asking for people to give their customers the respect that they deserve. Whethere they themselves are respected by their corporation is something that they need to address in their own lives.
Would it make me switch carriers? Unfortunately it's the same story no matter where you go. But if it wasn't, sure. I'd rather spend my money with a person I like than with someone who'...
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Still think the shock comes from wireless afficianodos in love with the concept of using/owning their cell phone in business or everyday life seeing angry CSR posts on these forums and deciding that is NOT how they should be acting. Who cares, I only get wireless service from them (the company, not CSRs), not drinking water.
A lot of this is the fault of other CSR's who don't adequately go through everything with the customer in the first place, thus leaving us to have to fix sometimes hellacious problems, all because the other dealer was either a) out to get a buck (adding 4.99 detailed billing instead of the free one, or 1.99 basic vm rather than the free one). or b) accidentally clicked the wrong SOC code.
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It's some tool who called on with a local (regional) package, and says why did i get charged for roaming, it was told i got free long distance calling???Her freakin statement even says from domestic long distance within your local area.
So she wants a credit, look at past bills, has tried the issue before was given 1/2 roaming credit 6 months ago, with a offering of the national plan, and declined, then claimed misinformation over that.Told sorry baby, you got your bite at the apple, no mor...
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On the phones I'm completely professional to everyone who calls in.
From the Cell phone Guru (CSR wet dream) IE: Someone who knows what there plan is and what they want and understand the bill.
To the Cell phone Monkey IE: Someone who should not be allowed to have a phone.
I'm respectful to all..... on the phone. Off the phone I'll vent frustration any way I can. If I ever post in a "dumb cust" thread. No matter how rude my post may seem to be I assure all that I was respectful, patient, helpful to the customer.
"sorry baby you got a bite of the apple."
"some tool"
"Liste, is the customer does not understand the interpretation of what you tell them, then guess what Tough Fricking Stuff"
You hate these people. You probably hate your job. Your manager is blind not to see your poor attitude because you're still employed.
You are there to answer questions. That is all. If you have to answer the same one over and over again, and if you have to explain yourself over and over again, that is your job.
If you don't think it is your job, then you will be a customer service rep for the rest of your life. No promotions for you, my brilliant, all knowing, all powerfull, overacheiving friend. This is as good as it gets....
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Customer:Why is my bill $1000.00
Me:Well let's review, you were supposed to be on $150.00 a month plan plus your extra line, and was not, so you got your bill re-rated for 3 months,correct?
Customer: yes and?
Me:Well yes, so your average bill each month should have been $190.00 X 3 months, now you also did some extra things, like e-wallet downloads, kb usage, and 411 calls, you also never paid your last final tdma bill which was around, $240.00.So for all of that that brings you to $1000.00,plus late fees.
Customer: you better give me credit i can't pay that.
Me:Sir we aren't going to give you credit, as a reward for not paying any bills in 3+ months.
Customer:Well you better...
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tadams said:
how was I way off?
You were way off saying that i don't talk to customer like that, man you were WAY OFFFFFFFF! π π π
As for being all talk, you go on think that way, thats what the others thought oo, the bottom line customers are gonna get off the blue side, one way or another!!!!
Your point is? I think you did actually answer the other guy who claimed no one is unprofessional.
Sure, the guy's a deadbeat, perhaps a cheat.
Did you offer him a payment plan? Did you offer to settle?
See, that actually isn't your job. That's RM (receivables management?)'s job. You transferred the call.
That was really hard work. How can anyone be expected to deal with this?
I am curious now, why does this bother you? It's not like you're digging a ditch, is it?
They transfeerred the call to me, cuz he wantedcredit, i review his bill, explained every aspect of the bill, and he wanted credit as a incentive, so after he was told he is SOL, we don't reward our customers for not apying bills,he thewn refused to apy anthing, then i got him writen off, he hadn't pay from sept to dec,when he was suspended, then when he said gimme a credit or i'm not payin anything, thats when i saod no, he hung up,and i got him written off the next day.
I just told in the most serious tone - I will have your name, all your information including you SSN, sent off to the outside collection agancy, and anytime you do anything that involves giving any line of credit will be flagged on you, and you couldn't get a loan to buy a stick of bubble gum, now you want to pay me or use that money to cash for your bubble gum? π π π
Told me he was gonna sue if we sent him off, and told him, well you don't pay...
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You know, I never, ever do this -- it doesn't seem like its worth the time. But I've just finished copying your posts and sent them on to a friend at Cingular.
I hope that your bile finds its way back finds its way back to you -- if not, I hope that its used for training purposes somewhere.
What do you think anyone at cingular is gonna do.let me clue you in something, reps who sit by each other, when they get a real jerk like these ones who called in, get put on speaker so others can listen and laugh at the customer as much as the rep who took the call.
I got news for you, copy this and paste it to your friend, Cuz nothing can be done, and he/she knows it to, you wasted your time, why don't you be a good little person, and go back to running the lunch room and telling on people, that seems to be your true talent!...
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coldsteel said:
And since you ARE easily tracked thru your IP address, you being reported IS going to affect you.
FYi for you.LKarge Corporations uses multiple servers, and i've logged into the station and looked at my IP adress,its changed 4 times in one night.So that theory goes on the scrap heap.
austin316 said:coldsteel said:
And since you ARE easily tracked thru your IP address, you being reported IS going to affect you.
FYi for you.LKarge Corporations uses multiple servers, and i've logged into the station and looked at my IP adress,its changed 4 times in one night.So that theory goes on the scrap heap.
FYI for YOU. Your static IP is tracked based on your workstation. All the IT gurus need to do is get the IP info from your access to this site from the site admin, and you are busted. Your dynamic IP will change, but there is STILL a static IP address to ID your workstation.
So, I just picked that theory off the scrap heap, dusted it off, and placed it in it...
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Its like guy called in to change his package had 4 lines on the family shared package, and needed blue phone, told him ALL GONE, you got 2 choices, migrate and get 4 new phones, and new plan, or don't migrate but try to find one on your own.
Guy didn't like it, but he had NO REAL CHOICE, so he spent $400.00 in phones, another $72.00 in upgrade fees, plus another $14.95 X 4 for shipping.
And all with new 2 year contract on all lines.Man i nail 2-5 lines per day in migrations, cingular loves my a$$, cuz i get the job done at care.They say migrate them and i do!!!!!!
woland said:
Furthermore, your earlier post, where you ruined someone's credit because they got on your nerves? Good for you! Super job! You showed her! I better be careful not to get on your bad side!
It seems to me that the customer ruined her own credit and that the rep did what needed to be done to keep the company from losing any more money on this customer who refused to pay her bills. *shrugs* Maybe I'm way off here...
He's almost crying, said cingular is nothing like att's care, my bill was messed every month by att, and they would fix it, look no issues, just customer overage, and always claimed misinformation.But anyways he says i get the same erors on their system, and they won't credit me, i wish i could swithc back, he was like on his last day of buyers remorse, but i didn't offer any reverse migration.
So yeah, we gonna get our money out of that guy. π π π π
And also, its not like I am actually ever MEAN to customers. Ever. And most reps aren't. But sometimes, what do the customers expect.
NEWSFLASH CUSTOMERS
Half (or more) reps are outsourced and dont get the proper training.
We get paid very little and are supposed to have some super attitude about helping people.
We have to take call after call after call to meet the stupid quotas and yes, we get you and your situations mixed up.
The company doesn't give a s*** about us, and there is no incentive to do a good job (at least not where I work).
So next time you call in, think about what we have to deal with all day, and dont just assume our life is al...
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Shayby said:
Im here for 10.5hrs a day. βΉοΈ
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OMG... i hope you get a break in there? (yes that was a question.) I'd go nuts.
ralph_on_me said:
ewwwwwww... my sympathy threshold for CSRs just went WAY up.
We have around 100 reps who do this every weekend.
Thank you for your sympathy.
All this done BY MYSELF!!!!
And they wonder why I'm burnt out. π³
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Just my two cents π π
AWS_GUY2 said:
Hey if you ever see my post on here I try to give the cust who are asking, no matter the question, the best info and service I can give them. Its just the ones that after an hour of them saying what you are saying and they still not getting why they are past due I get fustrated. I dont take it out on the customer but I need to vent some how and on top of it most other people get a kick out of other peoples stuipity, otherwise how would shows like america funnist videos ever work.
Just my two cents π π
America's Funniest Videos doesn't work...people still watch that? π
CelluNerd said:
I can see your point, but maybe start a new forum just for venting. its not fair for the "ignorant" customers who come on here being honest and asking questions that reps may think are stupid. not everyone is technoligcally incline.
there is a difference between technical competance and COMMON SENSE