Is Verizon ad false?
I saw this ad in the paper, just wanted to know what people think of it. I know at&t has more 3g coverage than that.
http://shopping.postnewsmarketplace.com/ROP/a ds.aspx?adid=8432989&advid=330940&type=
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I was wondering the same thing. Not all of Verizon's map that they advertise is 3G.
I found it amusing that the music sounds like an iphone commercial.
Will
I found it amusing that the music sounds like an iphone commercial.
Will
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what im wondering is if verizon isnt just showing there full network coverage and not just 3G but you could probably check it on both of the websites not really sure though
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Check out your glossary on CDMA 2000 (1x). It IS 3G. So yeah Verizon is showing its entire native coverage.
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Yeah, but CDMA 2000 doesn't quite hit the speed requirements for 3G. I guess EDGE would also be 3G if that was the case.
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phonescoop agrees with you that CDMA2000 is 3G, but the speeds are about the same as EDGE.
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cdma2000 is a third-generation (3G) wireless technology that is evolved from existing CDMA 2G technology. Its main features are faster data rates, always-on data service, and improved voice network capacity (more people can use each tower at the same time).
cdma2000 will be deployed in at least three phases.
The first, 1xRTT, supports up to 144 Kbps packet data speeds. It also doubles voice capacity over previous CDMA networks (IS-95).
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cdma2000 is a third-generation (3G) wireless technology that is evolved from existing CDMA 2G technology. Its main features are faster data rates, always-on data service, and improved voice network capacity (more people can use each tower at the same time).
cdma2000 will be deployed in at least three phases.
The first, 1xRTT, supports up to 144 Kbps packet data speeds. It also doubles voice capacity over previous CDMA networks (IS-95).
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Oh, no doubt. I am not stating that VZW should be bragging about 1x...just that if one wants to be technical their entire network is 3G. Is it misleading? Yeah. 1x and Edge are about the same speed wise so that is what the lawsuit will determine. AT&T could always fire back with commercials explaining that Edge is about as fast as 1x. It's that 3G tag that is sticking in their craw.
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I think you might be on to something Hombre. I say you contact AT&T marketing with that one.
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I would but I'm afraid I'd see a commercial for it next week. Then we would be like the big red checkmark.
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In case you didn't catch on I was following your thought process. I'm aware of what Edge and LTE are.
It's kinda like what Verizon has done.
It's kinda like what Verizon has done.
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All 3g technologies use a variant of CDMA (WCDMA, HSPA, etc)
GSM/Edge is 2g technology (and 2.5)
GSM/Edge is 2g technology (and 2.5)
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i've wondered the same thing. its hard to say....at&t only displays the GSM coverage on most of their maps...they don't seperate 3G UMTS/HSDPA coverage on nationwide maps.
with VZW, their 3G is data ONLY, so if you can't get EVDO, then you can't really use data.
with VZW, their 3G is data ONLY, so if you can't get EVDO, then you can't really use data.
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Why do you think it is that at&t does not show 3g coverage on there maps? Cause it's that sparatic. There is very very few place that VZ is not EVDO. Before the end of the year they will have EVDO everywhere that 1x is. Unless you are roaming off other towers.
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sporadic? yeah, that could be the reason...that's your assumption anyways.
VZW will deploy 3G EVDO everywhere there is 1X in the next 2 1/2 months? unlikely.
VZW will deploy 3G EVDO everywhere there is 1X in the next 2 1/2 months? unlikely.
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Sorry, not true.
I live in the outskirts of a 1.6 million pops metro and most coverage on VZW is only 1X.
People with air cards are only getting 120kbps so we are switching them AT&T or another one of our carriers. Sprint has more EVDO than Verizon in our area. Cricket is darn close.
I live in the outskirts of a 1.6 million pops metro and most coverage on VZW is only 1X.
People with air cards are only getting 120kbps so we are switching them AT&T or another one of our carriers. Sprint has more EVDO than Verizon in our area. Cricket is darn close.
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Ah, 3G speeds are just unsatisfying, and unimpressive. From all the national carriers.
Tomorrow I'm getting service from Clear, they have TRUE mobile broadband, the same speeds as from cable companies but wireless, Clear doesn't bring shame to the word broadband like ATT & Verizon do.
Tomorrow I'm getting service from Clear, they have TRUE mobile broadband, the same speeds as from cable companies but wireless, Clear doesn't bring shame to the word broadband like ATT & Verizon do.
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You think you should get the full 7.2 data with lots of people on one tower? Okayyyy...
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No, ATT "claims" they're towers ard 3.6 capable, I don't even get half that.
Clear is the only company that advertises REAL WORLD speeds, not stupid theoretical speeds, I hate theoretical speeds, I can care less what a cell tower is capable of putting out. I want to know end-user speed not theoretical speeds.
I know damn well Clear's towers are capable of speeds above 10mbps, but they advertise 3-6mbps.
Clear is the only company that advertises REAL WORLD speeds, not stupid theoretical speeds, I hate theoretical speeds, I can care less what a cell tower is capable of putting out. I want to know end-user speed not theoretical speeds.
I know damn well Clear's towers are capable of speeds above 10mbps, but they advertise 3-6mbps.
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anything over 786k is broadband (that is DSL)
Verizon advertises 1.2-1.6mbs downloads, which I get pretty close to (over mifi, blackberries are horrible for measuring speed). I pass it from time to time.
No this is not cable, but cable isn't the "basic broadband."
If we want to go that way, why not just say anything less than Fios shames the word broadband? 😛
sites like hulu were created to take advantage of ever faster computers, an I'll admit I look foreward to when I can get a card and use that to connect to the internet instead of the overpriced cable/dsl options around here, but the speeds provided by 3g are a lot faster than a lot of rural customers have available to them. (one of the reasons Verizon pushed 3g out to r...
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Verizon advertises 1.2-1.6mbs downloads, which I get pretty close to (over mifi, blackberries are horrible for measuring speed). I pass it from time to time.
No this is not cable, but cable isn't the "basic broadband."
If we want to go that way, why not just say anything less than Fios shames the word broadband? 😛
sites like hulu were created to take advantage of ever faster computers, an I'll admit I look foreward to when I can get a card and use that to connect to the internet instead of the overpriced cable/dsl options around here, but the speeds provided by 3g are a lot faster than a lot of rural customers have available to them. (one of the reasons Verizon pushed 3g out to r...
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Actually the map is correct. A large portion (rural areas) of the VZW map is from the Alltel merger. Remember Alltel had the largest network (because of rural areas) before the merger. Alltel had also upgraded all of its networks to EVDO. So yes all the red is EVDO.
AT&T doesn't care about rural america 😢
AT&T doesn't care about rural america 😢
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Actually the map is correct. A large portion (rural areas) of the VZW map is from the Alltel merger. Remember Alltel had the largest network (because of rural areas) before the merger. Alltel had also upgraded all of its networks to EVDO. So yes all the red is EVDO.
AT&T doesn't care about rural america 😢
The map is wrong. Many of the areas pictured are US Cellular and other regional CDMA carriers. They are in fact picturing their entire voice coverage area rather than just 3G.
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Nope, we don't 3G romaing (yet) off US Cellular. But we do in Alaska and Mississippi. But thats it. MS you can't even tell anymore. Other than that, its all real. That is not just Voice. If it was, you would see all of Texas in Red almost.
You wonder WHY Verizon has the largest 3G network. AT&T Customers don't understand what "Largest" means because they have been used to spotty 3G.
Wait till 4G 😉
You wonder WHY Verizon has the largest 3G network. AT&T Customers don't understand what "Largest" means because they have been used to spotty 3G.
Wait till 4G 😉
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I'm not waiting for 4G anymore! I'm getting service from Clear tomorrow! I can't wait. Being able to watch Hulu with ZERO buffering. And Clear doesn't have any evil data limit. Plus it's only $40/mo, conmpared to the rip off $60/mo that ATT/Verizon charge with a data limit. The Clear store opens at 10am, I'll be having breakfast near by, and be there at 9:55am sharp. The speeds I get from 3G just don't excite me, plus I feel that current 3G speeds bring shame to the word broadband. I'm sure HSPA+ will be different than current 3G. But I'm not waiting anymore. I mean we're 2.5 months away from 2010 ALREADY!!! Show me the future!!! And Clear is the ONLY one delivering the future right NOW, no more waiting for TRUE mobile broadband.
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Clear is not the only one. Verizon has the LTE 4G network up and live. November to December you will be able to buy.
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Really, that soon? Any cities beyond Boston & Seattle that they're testing in?
But Clear is only $40/mo.
But Clear is only $40/mo.
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Verizons 4G will be the same more than likely. And it will be unlimited. There are other places, but they won't say. Las Vegas will be out next year I know for a fact. So will NYC, ATL, Dallas, LA, and more. 30 markets in 2010. They are going to make it large enough to cover not just they mahor part of the city, but places outside the city.
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Ah, knowing Verizon it'll cost more than the $40 that Clear charges.
How are you so sure Verizon's 4G will be unlimited?
How are you so sure Verizon's 4G will be unlimited?
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Why do you keep pumping this company on numerous threads? Are you heavily invested in it?
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Nope, we don't 3G romaing (yet) off US Cellular. But we do in Alaska and Mississippi. But thats it. MS you can't even tell anymore. Other than that, its all real. That is not just Voice. If it was, you would see all of Texas in Red almost.
You wonder WHY Verizon has the largest 3G network. AT&T Customers don't understand what "Largest" means because they have been used to spotty 3G.
Wait till 4G 😉
No, I'm not saying that Verizon roams off of US Cellular's 3G network, I'm saying that the map in the commercial is a sham even if it was only supposed to picture their voice coverage. It should be colored differently to depict roaming areas where they have zero native coverage, not ...
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It isn't just showing their voice coverage. It is showing their 3g coverage. if it was showing voice coverage the map would be a lot more complete.
And why should a map be colored differently for roaming when they are talking about coverage? for a verizon customer, in the few areas they do roam (fewer and fewer every year) it doesn't matter if they are in native or roaming coverage.
For a consumer, all they care about is "will the features I have on my phone work where I need it to." They don't care about towers. yes, for some other carriers it matters when you are roaming, it doesn't with Verizon Nationwide plans. If you phone works (and you're in the US) everything about your plan is the same no matter if you are roaming or not...
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And why should a map be colored differently for roaming when they are talking about coverage? for a verizon customer, in the few areas they do roam (fewer and fewer every year) it doesn't matter if they are in native or roaming coverage.
For a consumer, all they care about is "will the features I have on my phone work where I need it to." They don't care about towers. yes, for some other carriers it matters when you are roaming, it doesn't with Verizon Nationwide plans. If you phone works (and you're in the US) everything about your plan is the same no matter if you are roaming or not...
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It isn't just showing their voice coverage. It is showing their 3g coverage. if it was showing voice coverage the map would be a lot more complete.
And why should a map be colored differently for roaming when they are talking about coverage? for a verizon customer, in the few areas they do roam (fewer and fewer every year) it doesn't matter if they are in native or roaming coverage.
For a consumer, all they care about is "will the features I have on my phone work where I need it to." They don't care about towers. yes, for some other carriers it matters when you are roaming, it doesn't with Verizon Nationwide plans. If you phone works (and you're in the US) everything about your plan is the same no
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I'm not saying vzw reps don't do the same. but you don't see us saying "know where your sprint phone worked, ours work theres work, because we roam for free."
and I highly doubt Sprint's data and voice coverage is larger than verizon's. If this were the case, you wouldn't roam on us more than we roam on you.
and I highly doubt Sprint's data and voice coverage is larger than verizon's. If this were the case, you wouldn't roam on us more than we roam on you.
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I'm not saying vzw reps don't do the same. but you don't see us saying "know where your sprint phone worked, ours work theres work, because we roam for free."
and I highly doubt Sprint's data and voice coverage is larger than verizon's. If this were the case, you wouldn't roam on us more than we roam on you.
What difference does it make what the content of false information is when the purpose behind all lies is to mislead people?
You can doubt what I stated all you want to, but the fact is that Sprint still advertises the largest voice coverage area in America. And according to their own literature they post on their website, all basic services work where you would roam. Verizon wo ...
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That news release was before the alltel buyout. after the alltel buyout, Verizon offers the largest voice calling network. You'll notice that Sprint doesn't say they have the largest voice calling network anymore.
Verizon's 3g and Voice coverage is the largest nationwide. They DO say this in their adds and sprint doesn't sue them
Verizon's 3g and Voice coverage is the largest nationwide. They DO say this in their adds and sprint doesn't sue them
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Not only is that map NOT indicative of their own 3G coverage, it isn't even all Verizon native coverage. The big red map, once again, is a lie.
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Nope, not at all. We only have EVDO Roaming off of Cellular South (now with Alltel and Unicel, its VERY hard to find) and ACS in Alaska. Thats it, the rest is the truth.
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No. You AT&T people think that its "Impossible" for a wireless network to have such a large coverage area. Verizon has proven its not impossible.
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Sorry man. I'm not a "people". I happen to use Sprint. I've used all the big 4 at one time or another.
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I love that Verizon has people on the blogs to defend there lies! Everyone: all of the big cell companies twist the truth when it comes to there networks. The fact is, dont listen to anyone but yourself. All of the carriers have some trial period, usually 30 days to see if you like the service. I have had Att, Tmobile, Sprint, and Verizon. Currently I have a verizon and Att phone, one personal and one for work, and I can tell you, I travel all over the world and, they both have different places they work and places they dont. The one difference I notice is out of the country Verizon is worthless, but in the us it works very well. Maybe we should all have two carriers then we would have service everywhere! Make up your own minds and do...
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If you go out of the country, your are wasting money by using an ATT or any other phone carrier in the US, even if you do get a signal. I have found that the smartest thing to do in most cases is to just buy a prepaid sim card when you land and slap it in your unlocked phone. And believe me I travel a lot to Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
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The problem is that you have to tell everyone what your new local number is. Or, you can forward your U.S. number to your local number, but then you get socked for an international call anyway. I guess the only way to deal with this is leave a voicemail answer message telling what your local number is.
One question, do you tend to end up with a large collection of pre-paid SIMs?
One question, do you tend to end up with a large collection of pre-paid SIMs?
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Att would be marketing their roaming 3g if they had it, but since the other big gsm carrier (TMOB) uses different 3g, you guys can't.
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yep, false. from the VZW coverage maps find print...they are comparing their *roaming* coverage to others native coverage.
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"Some of the coverage area includes networks run by other carriers; some of the coverage depicted is based on their information and public sources and we cannot ensure its accuracy."
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"Some of the coverage area includes networks run by other carriers; some of the coverage depicted is based on their information and public sources and we cannot ensure its accuracy."
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I was in a bog box retailer tonight after work and they had a huge poster comparing all 3, 3G networks.
Verizon - EVDO Rev A
AT&T - HSPA
Sprint - EVDO Rev A
Where I think this is false is, 3G with GSM begins with HSDPA, which AT&T would have more coverage as not all 3G areas have been upgraded to HSPA.
HSDPA - HSUPA - HSPA - HSPA+ - LTE
Any one, please correct me if I am wrong.
Will
Verizon - EVDO Rev A
AT&T - HSPA
Sprint - EVDO Rev A
Where I think this is false is, 3G with GSM begins with HSDPA, which AT&T would have more coverage as not all 3G areas have been upgraded to HSPA.
HSDPA - HSUPA - HSPA - HSPA+ - LTE
Any one, please correct me if I am wrong.
Will
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Who does ATT roam off of for 3g?
They are comparing roaming to roaming, where it is available.
They are comparing roaming to roaming, where it is available.
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It is not a roaming coverage map, this is the product of the Alltel-Verizon Merger.
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AT&T doesn't have 3G roaming in the US because AT&T and T-Mobile are the only GSM 3G networks in the US.
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Yeah, I wanted to say that, but I wasn't sure about 3rd parties, but even IF they had regional carrier 3g, it would be what? 1-2 more cities?
Most regional carriers (with 3g) seem to be CDMA. only gsm one around here just upgraded to edge two years ago.
Most regional carriers (with 3g) seem to be CDMA. only gsm one around here just upgraded to edge two years ago.
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Go to Verizonwireless.com click on coverage and then Broadband and VCast Coverage Map. That is the EVDO coverage and that is ridiculously full. When I compare the blue there with the purple on the Verizon Prepaid they both look the same. That's native coverage.
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it took a commercial to show everyone in at&t that their company is not superior. I thought most of you would have already known that giving you use the network for your calls, dropped calls, static calls, and poor customer service.
Both Verizon and at&t suck
Thats why I go with tracfone ha ha ha
Both Verizon and at&t suck
Thats why I go with tracfone ha ha ha
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If Verizon was depicting the AT&T coverage as less than it actually don't you think the lawsuits and injunctions would be flying around for damage control?
They aren't fighting it because it is true.
And for those trying to compare EDGE and EVDO, sorry but 200k and 500k is a pretty big difference.
They aren't fighting it because it is true.
And for those trying to compare EDGE and EVDO, sorry but 200k and 500k is a pretty big difference.
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Verizon's website actually states that the map is "projected and approximate" so there is no legal way to fight it...basically it says "this is what we expect to have"...
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I am talking about AT&T's lack of coverage being represented in the commercial.
Verizon's map is accurate to the point that it represents all of their 3G options. And why does it matter if 3G is roaming? AT&T doesn't have any 3G roaming partners anyways.
Verizon's map is accurate to the point that it represents all of their 3G options. And why does it matter if 3G is roaming? AT&T doesn't have any 3G roaming partners anyways.
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But again, verizon's map specifically states it is "projected and approximate", meaning it may not represent their current coverage properly.
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So does AT&T's map when representing areas that rely on roaming coverage.
And as others have stated a very small percentage of their coverage is roaming. Verizon just doesn't rely on roaming as much as AT&T does/did. I dealt with it every day in West Texas where all we had was roaming all around us (and GPRS data coverage).
So subtract Verizon's roaming coverage for 3G, it still is 4.75 times the size of AT&T. My point was that if Verizon misrepresented ANY of this you know AT&T would sue.
And as others have stated a very small percentage of their coverage is roaming. Verizon just doesn't rely on roaming as much as AT&T does/did. I dealt with it every day in West Texas where all we had was roaming all around us (and GPRS data coverage).
So subtract Verizon's roaming coverage for 3G, it still is 4.75 times the size of AT&T. My point was that if Verizon misrepresented ANY of this you know AT&T would sue.
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There's little reason for ATT to sue. All that would do is bring more attention to an issue that 99% of the public doesn't care or know about. Only phone geeks like us here care about this stuff.
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These maps show current "3G" coverage of these networks:
Verizon Wireless Broadband vs AT&T, Sprint & T-Mobile
This is from Verizon Wireless promotional literature. Includes Verizon's Alltel and Unicel acquisitions
Get a Discount on Broadband from Verizon Wireless
Verizon's comparison to other networks:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g_compare.shtml »
Verizon Wireless Broadband vs AT&T, Sprint & T-Mobile
This is from Verizon Wireless promotional literature. Includes Verizon's Alltel and Unicel acquisitions
Get a Discount on Broadband from Verizon Wireless
Verizon's comparison to other networks:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g_compare.shtml »
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I didn't see anyone comparing EVDO to Edge...
We compared Edge to CDMA2000 (CDMA is technically 3G, but 144 KB/S compares very favorably to 135-150 KB/S.
We compared Edge to CDMA2000 (CDMA is technically 3G, but 144 KB/S compares very favorably to 135-150 KB/S.
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Thank you for posting on AT&T Cellular, we appreciate your comments about our allegedly inferior network.
At AT&T Cellular, we care about you, the consumer, so much that we purposely degrade our service so that you will see Verizon Cellular is the one true cellular carrier that mankind should follow. Verizon is your superior service provider, so we encourage that you switch today.
And please, tell our friends at Verizon Cellular that we do not intend on suing them, but rather, we'd rather join hands with them and sing koombyah.
Thank you for choosing not to choose AT&T Cellular. We appreciate your non-business. Goodbye.
At AT&T Cellular, we care about you, the consumer, so much that we purposely degrade our service so that you will see Verizon Cellular is the one true cellular carrier that mankind should follow. Verizon is your superior service provider, so we encourage that you switch today.
And please, tell our friends at Verizon Cellular that we do not intend on suing them, but rather, we'd rather join hands with them and sing koombyah.
Thank you for choosing not to choose AT&T Cellular. We appreciate your non-business. Goodbye.
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So now they are fighting it...
But not because it is false but because it is misleading. AT&T is not countering that the map does not represent their 3G coverage.
So to answer the questions from all, yes the maps are accurate.
But not because it is false but because it is misleading. AT&T is not countering that the map does not represent their 3G coverage.
So to answer the questions from all, yes the maps are accurate.
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actually, it has two blue areas in Colorado. I can't pull up an atlas with cities atm, but I'm pretty sure one of those areas covers colorado springs.
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No it doesn't cover colorado springs, he was correct. The maps were not updated since the first quarter of last year, an Att has added over 300+ cities to the list. Plus Atts 3g is more like a 3.5 compared to Verizon because it supports voice and data at the same time whereas CDMA cannot. Basically Verizon is playing on the fact that the average cell user doesn't know anything about the actual network makeups. They are doing the same thing every big corporation does in marketing.
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Actually 1x advance cannot support simultianous voice and data. In theory it can, but try using it, an see what happens. It will either drop your call or have website errors and not be able to open.
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Very misleading ad. CDMA2000 is *technically* 3G, but i don't understand why. the speeds are about the same as EDGE.
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cdma2000 is a third-generation (3G) wireless technology that is evolved from existing CDMA 2G technology. Its main features are faster data rates, always-on data service, and improved voice network capacity (more people can use each tower at the same time).
cdma2000 supports up to 144 Kbps packet data speeds. It also doubles voice capacity over previous CDMA networks (IS-95).
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EDGE is used automatically when both the phone and network support it. EDGE phones will automatically revert to the slower GPRS standard when EDGE service is not available.
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cdma2000 is a third-generation (3G) wireless technology that is evolved from existing CDMA 2G technology. Its main features are faster data rates, always-on data service, and improved voice network capacity (more people can use each tower at the same time).
cdma2000 supports up to 144 Kbps packet data speeds. It also doubles voice capacity over previous CDMA networks (IS-95).
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EDGE is used automatically when both the phone and network support it. EDGE phones will automatically revert to the slower GPRS standard when EDGE service is not available.
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the map only shows EVDO data, not CDMA2000 (also known as 1x)
Go to verizon's website, look at their coverage map and toggle it for Broadband access. That map and the map from the commercial are the same, and that is EVDO data.
If they were including everything (1x+ evdo) the map on the adds would be the same as the map for voice, which it clearly isn't.
Go to verizon's website, look at their coverage map and toggle it for Broadband access. That map and the map from the commercial are the same, and that is EVDO data.
If they were including everything (1x+ evdo) the map on the adds would be the same as the map for voice, which it clearly isn't.
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but you can also claim that CDMA2000 has the same speeds as REV 0.
to compare apples to apples, you need to look at EVDO REV A. that map is clearly different then what is advertised.
to compare apples to apples, you need to look at EVDO REV A. that map is clearly different then what is advertised.
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It is EVDO rev A (verizon upgraded basically their entire native network to REV A in the past few years)
That map is no different than what is advertised.
That map is no different than what is advertised.
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totally false, a lawsuite is in place against verizon's theres a map for that commercial. Falsely showing at&t's 3G only coverage which is still more then that map shows. They also show verizons total coverage including non 3G areas.
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ATT is NOT suing over coverage shown, but rather that it implies that the phones will not work with 3g.
Maybe read the lawsuit before commenting on it.
Maybe read the lawsuit before commenting on it.
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I am simply stating what I was told by my manager, if you have a link so I can read the details that would be appreciated.
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/03/atandt-sues-veriz ... »
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"So this seems like a very narrow lawsuit, actually. As we've been told, AT&T thinks Verizon is trying to fool viewers into thinking that they can't use any AT&T phone services outside of 3G coverage areas by showing two essentially different maps. Since Verizon's entire network is 3G, the gaps in the red map are actual service gaps -- but Verizon doesn't show that the gaps on the AT&T map might be covered by AT&T's huge 2G network. We can see how that could be misleading, but at some point you've got to compare apples to apples, and AT&T even says it has "no quarrel with Verizon advertising its larger 3G network" in its complaint, so we'll see ...
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It would make more sense to help consumers make the right choice by showing both 3G, and 2G coverage. Granted Verizon dose have a bigger 3G network, so the ad is in thier favor. When I first saw the ad, I thought they were talking about total coverage, not just 3G. Have you ever tried reading the little print at the botton of the screen at the end, unless you have a DVR, or Tivo you cant.
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They mention it is 3g coverage.
I agree if you were talking about just data, the maps are unfair, but they are mentioning that they are JUST talking about 3g speeds.
ATT kinda walked into it by claiming to be the nations "fastest" network.
I agree if you were talking about just data, the maps are unfair, but they are mentioning that they are JUST talking about 3g speeds.
ATT kinda walked into it by claiming to be the nations "fastest" network.
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I agree, at&t walked into it, if you work in sales like me, you know aswell as I that customers only hear what they want, and see what they want. All they see is our blue map with very little coverage and the red map with alot of coverage. I can honestly say that cause I get asked that question every day. Plus I still get customers that dont even know what 3G is.
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Believe me, I get the same thing since most verizon phones show EV for "3g" data.
I had a customer swearing up and down that we lied when we said we had 3g blackberries because he had his for a month and it only ever showed EV. 🙄
on the same token, I think that working your commercials so that everyone understands them is a bad thing to do as well. The issue isn't that people are confused, the issue is that people are too lazy to find an answer to their confusion.
I had a customer swearing up and down that we lied when we said we had 3g blackberries because he had his for a month and it only ever showed EV. 🙄
on the same token, I think that working your commercials so that everyone understands them is a bad thing to do as well. The issue isn't that people are confused, the issue is that people are too lazy to find an answer to their confusion.
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thats true. I dont understand why people cant just type in "what is 3G" into bing, or google, or even yahoo. I cant belive we still live in a age where people dont realize that all they need to do to fix most problems is turn the phone off and on.
When our pay station for bill payments asks for the billing zip code people dont know what to enter. Its no wonder our country is going down the ****er, people like this find some way to survive in the world.
When our pay station for bill payments asks for the billing zip code people dont know what to enter. Its no wonder our country is going down the ****er, people like this find some way to survive in the world.
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Menno said:
They mention it is 3g coverage.
I agree if you were talking about just data, the maps are unfair, but they are mentioning that they are JUST talking about 3g speeds.
ATT kinda walked into it by claiming to be the nations "fastest" network.
The commercial shows someone unable to get online at all- that's misleading!
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Verizon has no non-3G areas. 1x is slow as molasses but for whatever reason it is still 3G.
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