I just have one comment or reply:

I dont mind you posting these things. It's consumers choice and duty to find out their prices. Wal-Mart buys the phone at the regular price... but loses money when they do the phone so low... therefore, having to make it up elsewhere. (i.e. Toilet paper, food, toys, etc.) I have worked across the street from a Wal-Mart for about 2 years now... and I have atleast 1-3 customers a day come in to my store and ask me what the heck happened to their phone, or their bill... I walked in there just to see what was going on... Well the kid working behind the counter, also works as a stocker, cashier, and in the auto department. They have no training... no experience... no nothing.

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This is a public forum and not your place of business. Making that comparison is intellectually dishonest.

Furthermore, the carriers and manufactureres themselves allow Walmart to sell their products. This would not be an issue if the carriers and manufacturers themselves were not trying to profit off of Walmart's customers.

Try blaming the greed of the corporations that drive your industry, as opposed to the consumers who have to wade through such shark infested waters.

First off... how do you know that Wal-Mart loses money when they activate the phone. From having my own cell company I can tell you they are losing money when it's activated, but when they get their commission they come out ahead.

I'll give you an example... When I had my cell store I always sold my phones (discounted ) them 100 bucks under a corp store. Yes I lost 100 on the phone, but I made a net of 280 per activation. I chose to be the cheapest in the market place to drive business....This is excatly what they are doing. I GUARANTEE you they are not taking a negative NET on the phone. Not to mention all the residual commission they get on the customer as well.


Secondly.....Give me a EFFIN break! There is a HUGE difference between...
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Thats not a bad price. The only thing that is wrong with that is that it's walmart who got that price. I'm a little upset but I also know that 80% of Walmart customers can't afford that phone. Not a slight on the customer base but I just know that most of the people who activate at Walmart want "free". When I was with Coca-Cola I dealt with Walmart on a different than most of you posting. I find their business pracitces horrible and the way they treated me and my co-workers deplorable. Knowing what I do from Coke, Walmart problably called ATT and said "we want this handset for this price." ATT said "no, we can't undercut our COR/dealer stores." Walmart said "no problem we won't carry your go phones or your plan phones if we don't get ...
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People want to save money in the short-term and in the process don't realize the detriment being caused in the long-term.

Wal-mart is infamous for exactly what you are describing.

The PBS documentary on Wal-mart is very interesting.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/ »

I saw that. Actually one of the areas in the video is right near where I live. Walmart is trying to strong arm the residents to let them build a new supercenter. You get treated like crap as a Walmart employee, customer, vendor, and nearby resident. Are we sure Gordon Gecko doesn't run Walmart?

Here's one Wal-mart strong arm tactic when Supercenters are prohibited.


Adjacent Wal-Marts May Dodge Size Curbs
Calvert Had Stopped Supercenter Plans

By Amit R. Paley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 7, 2005; Page B01

Robin Gottlieb cringed when she learned of Wal-Mart's plans to build a store the size of three football fields near her home in Dunkirk, a cozy hamlet in Southern Maryland ringed by rolling tobacco fields. The 44-year-old librarian feared it would overwhelm her tightknit community and usher in even more development.

After intense lobbying from Gottlieb and her neighbors, Calvert County officials passed tough regulations last summer that limited the size of big-box stores in quaint town centers such ...
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bastards! 😈 👿 That is crap. I never shop there and that's a good reason why.

bwag717 said:
bastards! 😈 👿 That is crap. I never shop there and that's a good reason why.

Im glad you don't shop there. The lines are already too long.. 😉

captainplooky said:
Here's one Wal-mart strong arm tactic when Supercenters are prohibited.


Adjacent Wal-Marts May Dodge Size Curbs
Calvert Had Stopped Supercenter Plans

By Amit R. Paley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 7, 2005; Page B01

Robin Gottlieb cringed when she learned of Wal-Mart's plans to build a store the size of three football fields near her home in Dunkirk, a cozy hamlet in Southern Maryland ringed by rolling tobacco fields. The 44-year-old librarian feared it would overwhelm her tightknit community and usher in even more development.

After intense lobbying from Gottlieb and her neighbors, Calvert County officials passed tough regulations last summer that limited the size of big

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They found a loop hole and exploited it. The residents still didn't want the store.

bwag717 said:
They found a loop hole and exploited it. The residents still didn't want the store.

It doesn't amtter what the "residents" want. The residents only own what they own. They elect officials to make the zoning laws. They should blame their elected officials for the "loop holes" not Wal Mart for acting within the law to their advantage!!!

Dude you know that is crap. If you were in the same position, you would not like a big corporation going around what you had stopped legally to make a buck. The big problem is that in this case a small town is going to be overrun and Walmart does invite a lower class of people to an area. Because of this these homeowners would have reduced property values and possibly some problems with new residents that run up costs to residents in school taxes, property taxes and the cost of a larger police force. They don't want their small town turned into a low income area with bad traffic. Trust me, we don't need a Walmart on every corner. A 7-11 maybe (love those slurpees and hot dogs).You're either playing Devils Advocate or you really have no...
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bwag717 said:
Dude you know that is crap. If you were in the same position, you would not like a big corporation going around what you had stopped legally to make a buck. The big problem is that in this case a small town is going to be overrun and Walmart does invite a lower class of people to an area. Because of this these homeowners would have reduced property values and possibly some problems with new residents that run up costs to residents in school taxes, property taxes and the cost of a larger police force. They don't want their small town turned into a low income area with bad traffic. Trust me, we don't need a Walmart on every corner. A 7-11 maybe (love those slurpees and hot dogs).You're either playing Dev

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Local, state and the federal government who do not force WalMart to follow antitrust laws and predatory business practice laws are the issue here. In many states WamMart's business practices are illegal. Selling new product below cost is against the law in many states. Not one has sued or even issued a cease and desist order.

Not to mention their labor practices. No the world would be much better without WalMart.

Anti Trust? Hardly. If there were laws to enforce at least a few states would try...ya think?

In Which states are Wal Marts business practices illegal? Show me the statutes not being enforced.

NO one has sued becasue it would be considered a frivolous law suit. Wal Mart has agreements with their Vendors on PAPER that cannot be litigated.

Blame ATT not Wal Mart. Apparently there is a long list of applicants waiting for openings as well to get a job with unfair labor practices.....Where do you get your information...PBS? LOL

You are kidding, right?

Wal-Mart BRINGS a lower class of people? Wal-Mart brings down property values?

I hope that kool-aid tastes reeeeeal good.

Fail.

United States counties - with new Walmart stores - during the time 1987 and 1998 experienced higher poverty rates than other counties with no walmart.(Source: Pennsylvania State University Study)

captainplooky said:
Fail.

United States counties - with new Walmart stores - during the time 1987 and 1998 experienced higher poverty rates than other counties with no walmart.(Source: Pennsylvania State University Study)

You believe everything you read? That's 10 year old information. LOL I can assure you poverty is a result of personal choices more then a Wal Mart store.

AvgJoe said:
You believe everything you read? That's 10 year old information. LOL I can assure you poverty is a result of personal choices more then a Wal Mart store.

🤣 Quite the grip on science and mathematics 🤣

Curse those evils scientists and mathematicians with their relentless logic.

The study was actually released in 2004 and used data from those time periods.

AvgJoe said:
I can assure you poverty is a result of personal choices more then a Wal Mart store.

How asinine.

captainplooky said:

AvgJoe said:
You believe everything you read? That's 10 year old information. LOL I can assure you poverty is a result of personal choices more then a Wal Mart store.

🤣 Quite the grip on science and mathematics 🤣

Curse those evils scientists and mathematicians with their relentless logic.

The study was actually released in 2004 and used data from those time periods.

AvgJoe said:
I can assure you poverty is a result of personal choices more then a Wal Mart store.

How asinine.

I was referring to the dates of the study. Isnt that what is relevant? It still 10 year old data.

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You are priceless.

I think you really must be a bird. Your regurgitation methods are flawless.

Choice.

bwag717 said:
I saw that. Actually one of the areas in the video is right near where I live. Walmart is trying to strong arm the residents to let them build a new supercenter. You get treated like crap as a Walmart employee, customer, vendor, and nearby resident. Are we sure Gordon Gecko doesn't run Walmart?

They sure do have a lot of employess for being treated so bad. WAtch those "residents" bend if Wal Mart would offer them $1000 each to allow a super center LOL. Money talks.

I nevr got treated like crap as a customer. On the contrary I never had an issue with a return. Something one does not see in many stores. Vendors have the choice NOT to do business with Wal Mart. They do so know knowing Wal...
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bwag717 said:
Thats not a bad price. The only thing that is wrong with that is that it's walmart who got that price. I'm a little upset but I also know that 80% of Walmart customers can't afford that phone. Not a slight on the customer base but I just know that most of the people who activate at Walmart want "free". When I was with Coca-Cola I dealt with Walmart on a different than most of you posting. I find their business pracitces horrible and the way they treated me and my co-workers deplorable. Knowing what I do from Coke, Walmart problably called ATT and said "we want this handset for this price." ATT said "no, we can't undercut our COR/dealer stores." Walmart said "no problem we won't carry your go phones or

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YOu need to complain to your corporation not Wal Mart. In case you forgot. Wal Mart started with a single small store. One man did the research, work and sacrifice needed to get where they are today.

They employ far more people then ATT and save money for those who shop there perhaps so they CAN own a cell phone with the money saved!

Whining about big bad Wal Mart will not make it go away. I work in a retail industry where we have to compete with the Internet! We do. Am I complaining about internet stores? Nope. It's progress like it or not. Old jobs go away replaced by new jobs.

When people cannot afford the products they have to reduce prices or raise pay.

No job is secure. Only you can secure your familiy. In fact getting a...
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Wal-mart is a success story, however, they also are very detrimental to communities, businesses, consumers, and employees.

On a side note, it makes me think of the recent lead contamination stories. Americans were up in arms about the 'children' who were or may have been hurt, yet at the same time turning a blind eye to the children who manufacture those products.

I dont see how Wal Mart is detrimental to communities. They employ far more people then those mom and pop stores they replace. The stores that cannot compete will fail.

Those stores do not employ many people outside their families in many cases. Wal Mart made millionares out of truck drivers in the early days. Not too many mom and pops did the same for their employees.

Americans have no business in saving the world from themselves. In some cultures Kids working at 9 years old is totally acceptable. It is not up to us to impose our rule on them. We can do that by not buying products from such countrys. But that won't happen becasue we like inexpensive luxuries.

There are many hidden costs that are giving you those savings. In 2004 walmart cost tax payers 1.5 billion in medicare costs. They make their workers work off the clock in many instances. They also hold many small citites hostage by threatening to build outside city limits if they don't allow them to build their and demand a subsidy for the development as well. They are so crooked and unfair to their emloyees I'd rather give my money to someone who treats their workers, citizens of my community, a better life.

Sigma1570 said:
There are many hidden costs that are giving you those savings. In 2004 walmart cost tax payers 1.5 billion in medicare costs. They make their workers work off the clock in many instances. They also hold many small citites hostage by threatening to build outside city limits if they don't allow them to build their and demand a subsidy for the development as well. They are so crooked and unfair to their emloyees I'd rather give my money to someone who treats their workers, citizens of my community, a better life.

They "threaten" to build outside city limits?

Don't blame Wal Mart for working within the laws and loop holes of the US Government. Seek socialistic change by electing officials wh...
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You don't think their workers have tried to unionize? They have several time, but walmart has people to deal with these people. They even go as far as producing anti union commercials to show their employees. Most people that try to revolt againts the machine get instantly fired. There is always someone else willing to work so walmart doesn't care. I don't understand why you support a company that operates this way and I never will but to each is own eh?

Arguing with children is frustrating isn't it?

Sigma1570 said:
You don't think their workers have tried to unionize? They have several time, but walmart has people to deal with these people. They even go as far as producing anti union commercials to show their employees. Most people that try to revolt againts the machine get instantly fired. There is always someone else willing to work so walmart doesn't care. I don't understand why you support a company that operates this way and I never will but to each is own eh?

Workers were successful unionizing against far bigger companies. Apparently there are not enough disenchanted employees. I don't blame them for producing anti union commercials.

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You sir, and I say that full well knowing you are most likely are a juvenile, are speaking out of ignorance.

Wal-mart has grown powerful off the back of what is essentially Chinese slave labor.

The reason you don't "see it" is because you are uniformed, and apparently unwilling to even explore possibilities that run contrary to your beliefs.

In the search for cheaper goods, walmart aggressively demmands that its suppliers cut wholesale costs.

This has the effect of wholesalers moving factory jobs from our nation to others. Our citizens lose jobs and our economy and communties suffer.

Furthermore, in this process, they fail to meet the labor standrds that have been enacted to protect workers. Of course, you probably just ignore...
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LOL I saw that show and read the site too.
That's quite the dour list for such a successful company who is the largest employer in the US.

The REALITY is Wal Mart is successful and operates withing the laws of the countries they operate in.
I could care less if an 12 year old in China made my shoes. China has their laws, we have ours. That 12 year old will grow up a hell of a lot more responsible then most of the youth I see today who grow up in coddled homes. WORKING AT A YOUNG AGE is not a bad thing. To a coddled population it seems so though.

You are in the minority in believing Wal Mart is the Evil Doer of the world.
Peopl do NOT HAVE to work there. They can collect wel fare instead LOL.

When I worked at Coca-Cola we had to match their price. This is not like working with major supermarkets. The major supermarkets understand that products cost money to make(labor, shipping, maintenence). Walmart does not care that it costs $3.49/gallon of gas to ship to them as long as they offer cheap prices. It is not socialism if I disagree on how the employees/customers are treated. I saw walmart from a different angle then you did and I choose not to support a company that finds loop holes to make a profit. Walmarts big problem is that they bully too many manufactures into doing what even the manufactures know is wrong. It is not fair to the small Mom & Pop businesses if someone gets a price break and they do not. Why should Wal...
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NO you did not HAVE to match their price you CHOSE to match their price or find another vendor.Where there is choice there is not Socialism. IF every whining vendor did that Wal Mart would not be in business or be able to offer lower prices!!

ATT chose to match their price as well.

Wal Mart has no shortage of people willing to work for them.

BTW Your lack of "support" for Wal Mart is symbolism at best. The majority don't share that view as Wal Mart is still growing. I suggest You get on board and invest in WMT.

Charging $100 MORE for a phone is wrong too, ya think! Thats not doing whats right either by your own argument.

The extent to which people "care" is governed exclusively by their own self-interest. I have seen pre...
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That's not matching prices that's screwing up your profit margin to make one customer happy. That Tilt cost more then 229 to make and HTC and ATT lose their butts on selling it to Walmart and they don't even get any Data out of it. That means less profit for ATT and less money for their shareholders. Keep drinking the Walmart KoolAid. Walmart may sponsor a High School team from time to time but that doesn't make it alright for them to turn a profit at my companies expense. They also find loopholes so they don't have to pay for healthcare and since when is 28 hours full time?

bwag717 said:
That's not matching prices that's screwing up your profit margin to make one customer happy. That Tilt cost more then 229 to make and HTC and ATT lose their butts on selling it to Walmart and they don't even get any Data out of it. That means less profit for ATT and less money for their shareholders. ?

Imagine that..... and ATT STILL chose to do business with big bad Wal Mart.....Amazing.

I didn't say it was right.

bwag717 said:
I didn't say it was right.

NO you did'nt, but countless vendors and customers don't believ as you do and take advantage of their market and lower prices.

Apparently they believe it is right for them.

AvgJoe said:
The REALITY is Wal Mart is successful and operates withing the laws of the countries they operate in.

I could care less if an 12 year old in China made my shoes. China has their laws, we have ours. That 12 year old will grow up a hell of a lot more responsible then most of the youth I see today who grow up in coddled homes. WORKING AT A YOUNG AGE is not a bad thing. To a coddled population it seems so though.

Wow. Ignorance is bliss afterall apparently.

captainplooky said:

AvgJoe said:
The REALITY is Wal Mart is successful and operates withing the laws of the countries they operate in.

I could care less if an 12 year old in China made my shoes. China has their laws, we have ours. That 12 year old will grow up a hell of a lot more responsible then most of the youth I see today who grow up in coddled homes. WORKING AT A YOUNG AGE is not a bad thing. To a coddled population it seems so though.

Wow. Ignorance is bliss afterall apparently.

Im probably refering to you as one of those coddled kids growong up not taking responsibilty for anything and wanting it all now....even if it means you will put your family and fu...
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AvgJoe said:
And yes ignorance is bliss and by definition ignorace is hardly a bad thing.

😳 🙄 😳

Your above statement speaks volumes in regards to character, or lack thereof, imho.

captainplooky said:

AvgJoe said:
And yes ignorance is bliss and by definition ignorace is hardly a bad thing.

😳 🙄 😳

Your above statement speaks volumes in regards to character, or lack thereof, imho.

Really...I guess you know everything about everything WOW.

Grab a Dictionary sometime if you remember how to use one and look up the word "ignorance".

Avgjoe, give it up. There is no way you can possibly argue that ignorance is "hardly a bad thing" - unless of course your audience is ignorant or stupid to begin with.

Ignorance is the fact or condition of being ignorant, want of knowledge, general or special. To the soul, it is caused lack of observation, definite lukewarmness, indifference or failure to care after observation has taken place. Ignorance is darkness and knowledge is Light. That which destroys ignorance liberates the truth.

Now this is good reading. We need a plooky vs. AvgJoe forum.

captainplooky said:
Avgjoe, give it up. There is no way you can possibly argue that ignorance is "hardly a bad thing" - unless of course your audience is ignorant or stupid to begin with.

Ignorance is the fact or condition of being ignorant, want of knowledge, general or special. To the soul, it is caused lack of observation, definite lukewarmness, indifference or failure to care after observation has taken place. Ignorance is darkness and knowledge is Light. That which destroys ignorance liberates the truth.

The only person without ignorance is that person who knows everything there is to know about anything......Like Texaswireless...

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Plooky, you've always been a smart man and I agree with you.

A small bit of information for other at&t agents: at&t is now putting COR employees inside walmart. Now they've got the low price and people who know what the hell they're doing. It's a smart move business-wise by at&t, but I still hate walmart.

ralph_on_me said:
A small bit of information for other at&t agents: at&t is now putting COR employees inside walmart.

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ralph_on_me said:
It's a smart move business-wise by at&t, but I still hate walmart.

I agree.

I know it's not a popular perspective, but I can't help but wonder where this capitalism without conscious and desire/need to be constantly growing and expanding is going to take us and how we are going to end up.

Unfortunately given the current state of world events, current financial situation, and current consumption rates given resources available both in the long and short term - I think we are headed in the wrong direction and have been for ...
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Go get a diffrent job deuch. Or provide enough quality with your service and handling of customers that they dont mind paying the extra price for the services, but DON'T act like someone giving a reffrence to a customer where they can save money and increase their own value and happiness with the company is somhow stealing money from your family the absurdity of that accusation infuriates me to no end. If you can't handle working commision come work at a call center if you want tostay in the industry but you knew the pay structure before you started working there.

spazebar

I meant N82/N95s for that price. Sorry should have been more clear.

Yeah, and Ma Bell was a good thing for the country as well right?

captainplooky said:
Yeah, and Ma Bell was a good thing for the country as well right?

Now There is a stretch. Wal Mart is not a Monopoly. In every place I have lived including California, Missouri, Nevada,New York, and SC. Targets,Kolhs, Sears, JC Pennys and a whole lot of other retialiers survive and do awfully well in Wal Mart's shadow. Costco even does better than Sam's Club!

No its those like you selling phones at MUCH higher prices that whine about Wal Mart rather than to your own bosses who cut the deal with Wal Mart. No one put a gun to their heads to sign a contract. They are the enemy not Wal Mart.

So then what may I ask do you do for a living?

I don't think living in his mom's basement is considered a living.

IM 53 retired 2 years ago, married Work part time in retail. Everything paid off. No debt. Wife doesn't work.

Losing your congnitive skills early are you? You know full well captianplooky does not sell phones yet you threw him in with the rest of the bunch when talking about Wal-Mart.

When you start to lose those memory skills, well the rest is just downhill.

texaswireless said:
Losing your congnitive skills early are you? You know full well captianplooky does not sell phones yet you threw him in with the rest of the bunch when talking about Wal-Mart.

When you start to lose those memory skills, well the rest is just downhill.

If it walks like a duck.......

I can't believe I am defending pooky bear.

HE IS NOT IN THIS WIRELESS INDUSTRY.

AvgJoe said:
No poor man ever gave me a job....

Probably gave you every job you ever had in some way.

I didn't always have the luxury of affording to shop where I wanted. Walmart kept me afloat, so I can't complain about them. I can choose to no longer go there for my own sanity though. 🙂

I would never buy a high end phone at a place like Walmart. You have to remember that Walmart is like a GIANT Odd-Job(remember those?). They sell LOW quality product that falls apart VERY easily compared to if I buy a similar product at stores where they sell it almost exclusively. If I want lint-removers, shaving razors, deodorant, etc I don't mind going to Walmart because I can easily find it all in one place. But things like shirts, electronics, and pet stuff(I have fish) I would never buy there. The other thing I can't stand is that its mostly Walmart that still sells the FULL SCREEN version of movies when they should all be WIDESCREEN by now. They have REALLY low end HDTVs, adaptors for video games that break very quickly, and their vid...
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They are the same damn phones you would get through Online, in a cor store, or from HTC themselves. To suggest they would be lower quality is just retarded.

As well as the Same exact Vizio LCD TV you would find at Best Buy....

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Now you're just trying to confuse people. Vizio is sold at Wal-Mart, not Best Buy. We're not talking about different brands here.

Wal-Mart does not sell refurbished phones. They come in the same new boxes with clear IMEIs just like my store and yours. You've seen refurbished phones, they are in plain white boxes stamped 'REFURBISHED'.

Vizio IS sold at Wal Mart AND Best Buy. I bought mine at Costco.

AvgJoe said:
Vizio IS sold at Wal Mart AND Best Buy. I bought mine at Costco.

Are you sure about that?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset= ... »
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0101 ... »

Btw, I'm still waiting for your explanation on how on why ignorance is "hardly a bad thing".

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

captainplooky said:

AvgJoe said:
Vizio IS sold at Wal Mart AND Best Buy. I bought mine at Costco.

Are you sure about that?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset= ... »
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0101 ... »

Btw, I'm still waiting for your explanation on how on why ignorance is "hardly a bad thing".

Get off your butt and Walk into a Best Buy. You will f

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I suspected your answer would be laughable, thanks for not disappointing me.

captainplooky said:
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I suspected your answer would be laughable, thanks for not disappointing me.

Don't fret. Laughing is a normal reaction to embarrassment.

How audacious of you to compare submarines and Coke to child slavery in foreign countries.

How you can possibly make that comparison, and believe it be a sound comparison, is beyond me.

AvgJoe said:
I could care less if an 12 year old in China made my shoes. China has their laws, we have ours.

AvgJoe said:
Im probably refering [sic] to you as one of those coddled kids growong [sic] up not taking responsibilty [sic] for anything and wanting it all now....even if it means you will put your family and future in debt for those frivolous things. LOL

And yes ignorance is bliss and by definition ignorace [sic] is hardly a bad thing.

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AvgJoe said:
Get off your butt and Walk into a Best Buy. You will find Vizio. They do not advertise that brand on their website for obvious reasons.

Please expound for those of us, myself included, who do not find the answer obvious.

That's not a veiled dig is it AvgJoe? I thought we we're having a good discussion earlier.

bwag717 said:
That's not a veiled dig is it AvgJoe? I thought we we're having a good discussion earlier.

Nah "Ignorance" is the absence of SPECIFIC knowledge. Everyone is ignorant on many subjects....Most are ignorant of Coke's secret formula.

I don't view the word ignorant as a slight. I truly am ignorant on many subjects. Phones are not one of them. I did a whole lot of research before deciding where to spend my $500.

Those who thought they were buying a leading edge phone in the iPhone were ignorant to the unbranded unlocked N series which at the time cost the Same and a light years ahead in features....and flexibility

Rodimus Primal said:
Plus they sell cellphones that could be used(XBM to my understanding does NOT have to honor the warranty on phones from Walmart, but XBM please correct me if I'm wrong).

1) STFU
2) They are not used.
3) There is a one year manufacture on ALL phones. No matter where you bought it. Screen goes out? Call XBM. No matter where you bought it.

Please note I hate Wal-Mart, however this is simply misinforming. Used and or refurbished phones are sold in plain white boxes stamped 'Refurbished'. Run down to your local Wal-Mart and take a look in the glass case under the display. What do you see? A lot of orange straight from factory boxes.

dromant said:
I seriously doubt that Wal-Mart buys their devices third party for one main reason - ATT wouldn't license them to sell their service. From everything I have seen, ATT doesn't license agents or retailers to sell their service unless they purchase the equipment through their channels. There is no way ATT would allow Wal-Mart to sell ATT service with devices not purchased through ATT.

Of course not. ATT made the business choice to sell their product to a hugely successful company for resale to that company's Millions of shoppers.

Those who oppose Wal Mart are obviously upset they cannot over charge for a product for their own benefit.

Either compete or get out of the game. Your corporatio...
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AvgJoe said:

dromant said:
I seriously doubt that Wal-Mart buys their devices third party for one main reason - ATT wouldn't license them to sell their service. From everything I have seen, ATT doesn't license agents or retailers to sell their service unless they purchase the equipment through their channels. There is no way ATT would allow Wal-Mart to sell ATT service with devices not purchased through ATT.

Of course not. ATT made the business choice to sell their product to a hugely successful company for resale to that company's Millions of shoppers.

Those who oppose Wal Mart are obviously upset they cannot over charge for a product for their own benefit.

Either compete or get

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Webb said:

AvgJoe said:

dromant said:
I seriously doubt that Wal-Mart buys their devices third party for one main reason - ATT wouldn't license them to sell their service. From everything I have seen, ATT doesn't license agents or retailers to sell their service unless they purchase the equipment through their channels. There is no way ATT would allow Wal-Mart to sell ATT service with devices not purchased through ATT.

Of course not. ATT made the business choice to sell their product to a hugely successful company for resale to that company's Millions of shoppers.

Those who oppose Wal Mart are obviously upset they cannot over charge for a product for their own ben

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No one is ENTITLED to a living wage 🤨

ygbhen said:
No one is ENTITLED to a living wage 🤨

Thats right. You EARN a living wage dependent on YOUR education and responsible or irresponsible decisions.

You need to prepare for a living wage. It's not automatic like most entitlements.That's not a new concept.

If you are good at what you do you will earn more than those who are not or feel entitled. Someone is selling to 2.4 million new customers last QTR It's not ALL Wal Mart.

AvgJoe said:
If you are good at what you do you will earn more than those who are not or feel entitled.

Ow. Ow. The laughter. It hurts too much.

ygbhen said:
No one is ENTITLED to a living wage 🤨

Stop. Stop. I'm laughing too hard. Any more and I'll rupture my diaphragm. If that happens, I won't be able to labor in the phone mines...

That is not correct.

Most major national retailers actually buy direct from the manufacturer. They can afford to buy 100,000 units. There is nothing in our AT&T agreement that says we have to buy direct from AT&T. All it says is that the phones must have the proper software.

I think when he said third party he means sources other than AT&T distribution.

Guys, this really doesn't matter if Walmart buys the phones from Al Queda. What is appalling is that we have made is acceptable to purchase whom the majority of us believe to treat the poor, middle class, and wealthy with contempt as log as they shop there and generate a profit. I work for a Mom and Pop organization and like to remind customers that while it is easier to purchase at Walmart that it is hardly the best for our country and the world. I am not liberal for anything other then I think people should not be kept down by a government or a corporation. AvgJoe, I appreciate your comments cause it is obvious you care about your view. I was taught by my father that opinions are like a$$holes; everyone has one and sometime they stink...
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Guys, this really doesn't matter if Walmart buys the phones from Al Queda. What is appalling is that we have made is acceptable to purchase whom the majority of us believe to treat the poor, middle class, and wealthy with contempt as log as they shop there and generate a profit. I work for a Mom and Pop organization and like to remind customers that while it is easier to purchase at Walmart that it is hardly the best for our country and the world. I am not liberal for anything other then I think people should not be kept down by a government or a corporation. AvgJoe, I appreciate your comments cause it is obvious you care about your view. I was taught by my father that opinions are like a$$holes; everyo

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AvgJoe, Congrats on being financially independent. Too many people in this country live by being in debt. I owe only my mortgage, one car payment(1year to go) and insurance payments. I was taught to only buy when you have the money not to get caught up on credit and owing people. My parent were financially independent and I aim to be the same despite what is going on in country. I really have only one want and that is a '63'-65 Corvette.

bwag717 said:
AvgJoe, Congrats on being financially independent. Too many people in this country live by being in debt. I owe only my mortgage, one car payment(1year to go) and insurance payments. I was taught to only buy when you have the money not to get caught up on credit and owing people. My parent were financially independent and I aim to be the same despite what is going on in country. I really have only one want and that is a '63'-65 Corvette.

IM not quite financially independant. I would be $500 short each month if I did not work part time. However Now I can Save the extra and keep somewhat busy as well.

Debt is the enemy. Credit cards are the worse. I have a couple but use them for what...
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I'd love to do a couple payments a year but I don't work for Coke anymore I work for ATT. With chargebacks and a slow retail season I'm lucky I'm not behind in my mortgage.