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Toxic

Aug 20, 2004, 9:01 PM
I work at a ATTWS Kiosk, inside the Oaks Mall, here in Gainesville, Fl.
I work with two other people a chick and a guy. I have to tell you, nobody around here likes or wants ATTWS. ATTWS can't eeven afford to advertise their product in the Gainesville Sun newspaper. I myself do not use ATTWS, because I know they s**k the b*g one.
Though Cingular will or may buy out ATTWS, why waste money buying a company when our employees know the company rots!
GSM coverage here is NOT good, most people seem to prefer CDMA.
By the way, the other two people I work with know the ship is "sinking" and we are looking for a life raft.
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RUFF1415

Aug 20, 2004, 9:53 PM
I can belive that AT&T may not be anything worth buying in Florida, but the reality of it all is this. You can't speak for the entire company when you experience one TINY portion of AT&T's entire network. I live in the Northeast and have used 4 of the major 6 carriers, AT&T being one of them. GSM in my area, state, and surrounding states (yes I've used it in all of these places) is phenomenal. All of AT&Ts employees in my area own AT&T service and they are glad to have it. I can honestly say that if I walked into any AT&T store in my area, not a single employee would tell me they use another provider or have even given the idea a thought. Cingular has bought a goldmine for pennies. With AT&T's assets there is only room for impovement ...
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phonepimp3376

Aug 21, 2004, 8:16 AM
GSM up here in the Northeast sucks SOOOO bad that Cingular was judged #1 GSM network in the entire region and #1 network overall in CT and Western Massachusetts. Hmmmmm
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RUFF1415

Aug 21, 2004, 11:53 PM
I'm confused at whether this is sarcasm or you are questioning my experience with GSM in this region. So I'll reply as if it were the latter, just in case. 😉

I was referring to the entire state of Pennsylvania, lower New York, New Jersey, bits of Delaware, and most of Ohio, Viginia, West Virginia, and Maryland (which aren't really in the Northeast but still). GSM in all of these areas that I have traveled have never given me trouble. It's rare to hear "AT&T's service sucks" where I live. The only true complaints that I have heard from AT&T customers are of course about their "poor" customer service.

I can not speak for the entire Northeastern part of the United States because I haven't witnessed service everywhere first-hand...
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cellphone gurl

Aug 30, 2004, 10:34 PM
I work AT&T Wireless customer care. we get a lot of complaints from those areas
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RUFF1415

Aug 31, 2004, 3:03 PM
I never said you don't get complaints. I'm sure that you do. What I was getting at is that I've never heard a person complain about AT&T SERVICE in those areas. Are the complaints ACTUALLY about the service or are their problems caused by equipment and their technically-challenged selves?
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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 11:13 AM
phonepimp3376 said:
GSM up here in the Northeast sucks SOOOO bad that Cingular was judged #1 GSM network in the entire region and #1 network overall in CT and Western Massachusetts. Hmmmmm

Now was that a subjective or obejective survey done there PP
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phonepimp3376

Aug 22, 2004, 9:32 PM
As determined by Telephia in network drive studies of all six networks, VZW ol' pal.
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ants_farm

Aug 24, 2004, 1:21 PM
Everyone is right. GSM s*ck and is great at the same time. Check this out. I asked a couple of coworkers to go to the staircase and call me from their phones, ATT-GSM-Nokia-7210, ATT-GSM-nokia-6590, Tmobile-GSM-ericson-610, Tmobile-Nokia-3310 does not call out except for Verizon-Motorola-T720 and my ATT-GSM-nokia-6620. I looks like it does not matter what kind of service you have, but the phone. The T720 has a retracting antenna and my 6620 is huge. The other phones are punny. I know that by having a larger brick phone, i am killing brain cells everytime i put that thing to my head. but i take great pics and video over 10minutes. Oh i have issues with my 6620 already check my other post. It is all about the phone.

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mycool

Aug 25, 2004, 10:25 AM
ants_farm said:
Everyone is right. GSM s*ck and is great at the same time. Check this out. I asked a couple of coworkers to go to the staircase and call me from their phones, ATT-GSM-Nokia-7210, ATT-GSM-nokia-6590, Tmobile-GSM-ericson-610, Tmobile-Nokia-3310 does not call out except for Verizon-Motorola-T720 and my ATT-GSM-nokia-6620. I looks like it does not matter what kind of service you have, but the phone. The T720 has a retracting antenna and my 6620 is huge. The other phones are punny. I know that by having a larger brick phone, i am killing brain cells everytime i put that thing to my head. but i take great pics and video over 10minutes. Oh i have issues with my 6620 already check my other post. It is all a
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RoamDog

Aug 24, 2004, 1:37 PM
I'm pretty sure it's due to at&t not having many towers there.

I know there's barely any in CT.
it's all roaming agreements with cingular.
so at&t customers get the lower end of the cingular towers.
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Mobile-El

Aug 21, 2004, 1:19 PM
Toxic, you seem a little bitter. Better jump ship now man, or get on for some anger management. Kidding, we are all entitled to our opinions. Cingular is buying 20+ million subscribers, a national TDMA network that will be kept on air until at least 2007, a strong GSM footprint, at both 850/1900 frequencies, and a great portfolio of offerings. Yes there, are areas that need improvements. People in challenged markets need to just look at the big picture. I am in NJ?NYC where GSM sucked becuase it was orgianlly launched at just 1900, and it blew. We had an 850 overlay, and now I can honestly say that it rocks. we are working hard to regain the market share. People do ask from time to time about the merger, they still choose ATTWS and ...
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Toxic

Aug 21, 2004, 6:15 PM
By the way, I'm not bitter. Think for a minute. Cingular wants to spend around 41 billion for ATTWS. And ATTWS looks and seems to be falling apart.
I have see the coverage maps with a cingular overlay on ATTWS area. They seem to cover 90% of the same areas. So where is the big deal?
And imagine Verizon spending a tiny fraction of that on a network that gets better montly, who would you go with?
See for your self all the negative commments about ATTWS on these threads, they speak for them selfs.
As for facts, I have friends who live in Long Island, New York, yes that island is 110 miles long and the Cingular and Attws still stinks. For all you novices, Long Island is the biggest island in the states, and it lies due east of t...
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Mobile-El

Aug 21, 2004, 6:35 PM
2 year agreements is a great topic for discussion. As a Dealer it is tough call. ATTWS pays Dealers the same thing on a 1 or 2 yr, the bebfit to the customer is mobile to mobile and early nights on plans with MRC's of $59.99 and higher. Cingular on the other hand pays Dealers a higher commission and I mean mucher higher $100 plus difference on many plans in our market. This allows the end user to get a much better price on the handset, as the commission is passed through to the end user. the Carrier's are all looking to increase ARPU and reduce churn, 2 year agreements and bolt-on's are the way to get this. The cost of acquisition is still very high. Number portability is a cause of churn with ATTWS the largest loser in that game. Cert...
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Toxic

Aug 21, 2004, 6:47 PM
Not to worry about the "shots". I myself will never do a 2 year agreement.
Okay folks think this for a moment, you may asave $100 on that pretty phone. But when you think about spending around $50 a month on your cell phone contract that second year, that is $600 folks. Yea you saved that $100 in the beginning, and in that second year you paid out $500.
I have had Bellsouth cell service, Attws when they had TDMA, it doesn't matter who you contract with, that second year you really don't need. Once your 1 year contract is up, just go month to month. And if for some reason they(cell company) decides to raise your bill, DUMP THEM!
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mycool

Aug 28, 2004, 9:29 PM
Toxic said:
By the way, I'm not bitter. Think for a minute. Cingular wants to spend around 41 billion for ATTWS. And ATTWS looks and seems to be falling apart.
I have see the coverage maps with a cingular overlay on ATTWS area. They seem to cover 90% of the same areas. So where is the big deal?


Ah of course... makes sense. I mean, hell they probably weren't concerned about the increased capacity. More specturm in their portfolio. The increase in customer base. Infrastructure equipment. Dealer locations. None of that is a concern, they just bought them for 41 billion just to add an extra 10% of new coverage to their network.... that's all, right?


And imagine Verizon spending a tiny frac
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Toxic

Aug 28, 2004, 10:23 PM
I am still a Verizon customer, so what if the phone cost a little bit more.
I like their coverage much better than ATTWS and Cingular combined.
I can not believe that Cingular, at least here in Gainesville, Fl. 32614 is still trying to sell that piece of Sh** V600. Does Cingular think people are that stupid?
And another thing there is a ATTWS kiosk here at the Gainesville Oaks Mall. I ask the salesperson, why would anyone want to sign on with ATTWS, since Cingular is taking them over in a few months? Why not just go with Cingular?
That salesperson had a stumped look on their face, and they were speechless.
About every two weeks a stroll through that mall, on a friday or saturday afternoon, and both ATTWS and Cingular may have...
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:07 AM
Good for you, now shut up 😈
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RUFF1415

Aug 29, 2004, 12:21 AM
First of all, Cingular discontinued the v600 about a month ago. Secondly, speaking of a piece of s hit phone we could go on and on about the v710, a phone that has an unbelievable amount of customers furious with Verizon. They FINALLY offer a bluetooth phone to their tech-hungry customers and sell it CLIPPED?! Now THAT is a piece of s hit phone if I do say so myself. Now, what company thinks people are that stupid?

Another thing. You seem curious to know why people would continue to buy AT&T service over Cingular service when they will be merging in a few months. Did it occur to you that almost EVERYWHERE AT&T is a better value than Cingular? Talk about "doing your research".

Next, be a little more sympathetic. Yes, most people...
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Toxic

Aug 29, 2004, 12:31 AM
I may not agree with you, but you seem brighterthan some of the fools I've had to contend with over the past few months on these threads.RUFF1415
You "RUFF1415" don't seem as bias as some of the people I've come across here.
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RUFF1415

Aug 29, 2004, 11:40 AM
I try. 😁 And thanks for the reassurance...I was beginning to doubt my own level of intelligence over some of these posts. 🙂 đŸ¤Ŗ
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RoamDog

Aug 29, 2004, 10:35 AM
"And by the way I do NOT work for any of the cell companies, I have a real paying job. I make money by not coning people, but by honest work, not by commission."


I'm glad you look down on people who work in the wireless industry and think you're better just because you don't work on commission Toxic.

this makes you SUCH a great person.

I used to work in customer care, we get no commission, and you know what? you try doing that job for 8 hours a day, 60+ calls a day with customer bitching, yelling, venting and you have to smile and fix their problems that they pretty much blame on you.

but you know what?
that job made me enough money for post secondary education, and I have gained a lot of experience and knowledge. I now know t...
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SammyJankis

Aug 22, 2004, 12:29 PM
attws and cingular service down here (alabama) is pretty good. i used cingular and my friend uses att. i'm going with the go phone service now. coming from a former cinglar insider. i can say that the merger is more about staying ahead of the competition than actual service.
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...ash...

Aug 22, 2004, 12:47 PM
SammyJankis said:
attws and cingular service down here (alabama) is pretty good. i used cingular and my friend uses att. i'm going with the go phone service now. coming from a former cinglar insider. i can say that the merger is more about staying ahead of the competition than actual service.

welcome to planet obvious. 🙄 i think it's pretty dirty, and shows the corporate machine at its absolute worst... BUYING NUMBER 1?? where's that confidence? you have to BUY your way to the top??? is that because earning it is so difficult, that to achieve top status the right way would be impossible? or take too long? if it's the latter then that's just greed. that's what it says to me. it's like sleeping your way ...
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Mobile-El

Aug 22, 2004, 12:57 PM
Buying number 1? Verizon is the child of merger and acquisitions is it not? Number one simply refers to having the most subscribers.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 1:02 PM
this is true, but I believe ash was refering to his company...Sprint "built from the ground up"
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...ash...

Aug 22, 2004, 1:05 PM
Mobile-El said:
Buying number 1? Verizon is the child of merger and acquisitions is it not? Number one simply refers to having the most subscribers.


relax... i was talking about cingular. did you actually READ what i typed, or...?
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RUFF1415

Aug 22, 2004, 1:41 PM
I'm sure he did. I read your entire post and it came off the same way to me. No company as large as Verizon or "The New Cingular" is what they are just through sheer hard work. Verizon was formed through the merging of many, many smaller companies. How is THAT hard work, and Cingular merging with AT&T not? What you're saying comes off as very hypocritical, and apparently not only to me. 🙄
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...ash...

Aug 22, 2004, 1:49 PM
RUFF1415 said:
I'm sure he did. I read your entire post and it came off the same way to me. No company as large as Verizon or "The New Cingular" is what they are just through sheer hard work. Verizon was formed through the merging of many, many smaller companies. How is THAT hard work, and Cingular merging with AT&T not? What you're saying comes off as very hypocritical, and apparently not only to me. 🙄

how is it hypocritical when i work for the nerd who built itself from the ground up? lol
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RUFF1415

Aug 22, 2004, 5:05 PM
Hypocritical because:

A. You believe it is wrong for Cingular to buy another company to make its way to the top.

B. You don't have a bad opinion of other companies who have done likewise previously. I'm talking Verizon.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 5:26 PM
RUFF, a little preemptive bashing on her, if you were to read further into the thread she reexplained her point...simmer big guy! 😁
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RUFF1415

Aug 22, 2004, 8:02 PM
It wasn't bashing, it was explaining something she didn't quite get the meaning of. I've read her posts. She claims to have a hatred for Cingular for "buying #1" but hasn't spoken ill of Verizon, the all-time king of "buying #1". That is undeniably hypocritical talk.

I'm simmered.
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Lord_Gawkerbane

Aug 22, 2004, 4:14 PM
Welcome to the world of business. There's nothing bad about a company buying another one. There's only one way to the top, and that's to invest in resources, whether by building them yourself or by buying them from someone else. If at some point in the future, Sprint actually became number one by continuing its strategy of no mergers or acquisitions (not something that I think is likely), it still would be buying its way to the top. One tower and subscriber at a time, but it's still buying number one.

If you know of a way to become the number one wireless carrier without spending a dime, let me know. That's one business opportunity I could afford!
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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 4:23 PM
well if I give you a dime can I get in on that with you? hehehe
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Mobile-El

Aug 22, 2004, 4:43 PM
My predictions for our loved industry.

Verizon will someday buy Sprint: they will need the additional spectrum for more high speed data offerings. Already a decent CDMA foot print at 1900.

Cingular will eventually acquire T-Mobile, T-Mobile is a second rate carrier that chooses to focus on price rather than quality, They are like the Walmart or Target of wireless. They are not used by Fortune 1000 companies for the most part. There is nice size customer base to be grabbed. About 12 million right?
A decent GSM 1900 netowrk. Not going 850 will hurt T-Mobile in the long run. You need dual-band to get those damn cities, buildings and rural areas covered.

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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 4:46 PM
To be honest with you...I think VZW would actually do better buying out Alltel rather than Sprint...we have a lot of roaming agreements with Alltel and with those areas actually added on to oiur network rather than being extended area it would save money from those roaming agreements let alone the profit that would be made from the data expansion into those areas( nationaccess, GIN, BoradbandAccess)
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Mobile-El

Aug 22, 2004, 4:51 PM
Good insight. You got my point that the tier two Carriers are not going to cut it flying solo in the long run. Cingular/ATTWS is not the end of the merger and acquisitions. To make things even more f-ed up, we will seethe return of the ATT name to wireless after the deal goes through. Corporate ATT, meaning LD company, the original gets the wireless name back to play with. I have read in Wireless Week and RCR that there are plans for ATT to become a reseller or an MVNO for Sprint.
You got to love this industry.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 22, 2004, 4:54 PM
well the fact was that AT&T was so far in debt that it was cheaper to just sell off everything and just start from scratch...Thats just sad
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phonepimp3376

Aug 22, 2004, 9:40 PM
They are not truly starting from scratch though... They just become another Virgin Mobile or Qwest... a postpaid TracFone
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TheVZWMan

Aug 23, 2004, 1:35 AM
technocalities my friend...the fact remains at the rate that AT&T was going they made more profit by just selling it off to the highest bidder than continuing on with what they had
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phonepimp3376

Aug 23, 2004, 10:12 AM
AT&T Corp. had nothing to do with it, VZW pal. ATTWS was spun off from AT&T Corp a few years ago. ATT&T Corp didn't sell off ATTWS to Cingular, because they didn't own it anymore.

So to say AT&T Corp is starting over from scratch, well, this is something they could have done some time ago. Their wireless division was no longer theirs once ATTWS spun off, so they were free to do as they chose.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 23, 2004, 11:46 AM
When did I say anything about AT&T CORP??? Actually if you read any of my past posts I have never even used the Corp until now...I'm talking about the wireless portion...I know they're seperate...I'm not stupid...ATTWS was bleeding bad and they found that it would make them more profit to just sell everything off thahn keeop with what they were doing
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Mobile-El

Aug 23, 2004, 12:23 PM
I am one the one who first mentioned corp in this thread. No body is accusing you ofbeing stupis, relax man. we are all intelligent enough to have an industry conversation without going on the offensive or the defensive. Part of the spin-off deal was that should ATTWS ever sell out, the namegoes back to ATT corp for their use. ATTWS is actually some generic name like Cellular Telephone Company and they sort of lease the rights to use ATTWS as their name. The tracking stock was introduced in 1999 or so, and true spin off occured in 2001.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 23, 2004, 12:39 PM
oh I'm relaxed it's just that PP was kinda breakin it down as if I didn't know the difference and I was a 4th grader... in my post in which he replied to I was basically just stating that AT&T was so far in the hole that...so on and so forth...just more of a clarification if anything, to let PP know that I wasn't talking about, nor did I ever mention anything about corp in the post he was replying to
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Vox Dei

Aug 31, 2004, 9:50 AM
It's just that calling it AT&T is a little confusing because AT&T is usually refering to AT&T corp not AT&T wireless.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 23, 2004, 3:02 PM
But it is AT&T CORP. That is contracting with Sprint as a VMNO, buddy, not ATTWS.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 23, 2004, 3:58 PM
nevermind........ đŸ˜ŗ
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Vox Dei

Aug 31, 2004, 9:36 AM
AT&T Sold AT&T wireless to the public many years ago (Don't remember the year). AT&T had nothing to do with the AT&T Wireless/cingular buyout. Ok Nothing may be too strong of a word but they definatly did not do the selling.
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Vox Dei

Aug 31, 2004, 9:52 AM
I'm stuppid. Ignore this post. someone posted the same post and it has been replyed to.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 22, 2004, 9:35 PM
Oh, and VZW hasn't bought its way to the top? Wake up, ash.
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...ash...

Aug 23, 2004, 1:12 PM
i never said they didn't douchebag
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TheVZWMan

Aug 23, 2004, 1:58 PM
...ash... said:
douchebag

I do believe that that is the first time I've ever heard a female say that word...How vulgor yet awesome at the same time...Ash you kick ass!!!!
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...ash...

Aug 23, 2004, 1:59 PM
hahah thanks man!! 😁
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phonepimp3376

Aug 23, 2004, 3:04 PM
But it makes Cingular bad, yet its acceptable for VZW? double standard there, ash old hole!
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...ash...

Aug 23, 2004, 3:32 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
But it makes Cingular bad, yet its acceptable for VZW? double standard there, ash old hole!

i've had it with you, phonepimp, i'm not kidding. YOU are the only thing that makes cingular "bad", kapiche? you need to stop talking down to me right now, i have had enough. i don't think it's "bad" to buy other companies; i am sorry my post was worded in such a way that made it seem like i felt that way. i think it's advantageous, business wise, and i was only comparing it to sprint's built from the ground up network (please don't start talking sh*t about that aspect of this post, i don't wanna hear anymore about why sprint is doing a disservice its customer's because they 'refuse to buy other co...
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phonepimp3376

Aug 23, 2004, 3:40 PM
but its okay to call me a douchebag? You have been nothing but confrontational to me since your first post.

So here's the deal: Post links to the threads you claim I have not answered, I will answer them. I get so sick and tired of the personal attacks. You may find me stupid, but two major universities granted me Magna and Summa, so I am more inclined to believe THEM.

As for the ash, old hole remark... well at least type it right. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. I respond with what you give me, ash.
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...ash...

Aug 23, 2004, 4:34 PM
I'm dyslexic, sorry I typed it backwards. I'll ensure accuracy when reiterating my own insult name in the future.
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Dyingunman

Aug 24, 2004, 11:13 AM
TheVZWMan said:
...ash... said:
douchebag

I do believe that that is the first time I've ever heard a female say that word...How vulgor yet awesome at the same time...Ash you kick ass!!!!


đŸ˜ŗ ASH IS A CHICK!

*throws up....
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TheVZWMan

Aug 24, 2004, 11:19 AM
Yeah...is that a problem
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Dyingunman

Aug 24, 2004, 12:03 PM
TheVZWMan said:
Yeah...is that a problem


no man..... no just shocking thats all, Im gonna go lie down...... ☚ī¸
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TheVZWMan

Aug 24, 2004, 12:03 PM
It's okay just take deep breathes...hehehe
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Dyingunman

Aug 24, 2004, 12:04 PM
Im pulling the paper bag out now.....
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...ash...

Aug 24, 2004, 10:30 PM
Dyingunman said:
TheVZWMan said:
...ash... said:
douchebag

I do believe that that is the first time I've ever heard a female say that word...How vulgor yet awesome at the same time...Ash you kick ass!!!!


đŸ˜ŗ ASH IS A CHICK!

*throws up....

wait why is that gross? 🤭
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Dyingunman

Aug 26, 2004, 10:34 AM
No, its just with the language you used you came off as a guy that's all, I'm just not used to women cursing soo much.
(I barley curse myself, it's just an outlet for those who lack other vocabulary)

Sorry, I'm over it now ☚ī¸
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speck

Aug 28, 2004, 12:34 PM
That's corporate America ash... Capitalism at it's best.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 22, 2004, 9:34 PM
Your insider has no clue then. Cingular's primary goal with the acquisition was increased spectrum holdings and network size to implement more agressive 3G solutions.
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...ash...

Aug 22, 2004, 12:51 PM
:::applause::: 😁
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rubrducky99

Aug 22, 2004, 8:30 PM
I work for a call center for attws, but not in the states, in Canada, so we don't even have attws as a provider. just from where we are, i guarantee you that anyone of us canadians that work here or have ever worked here would never sign with attws. more often that not (and i know that only a small percentage of customers even call in to the centers) poeple hate there svc. we're not worried about the ship sinking, i just want it to go down fast.
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speck

Aug 28, 2004, 12:32 PM
All wireless providers have spots that the service isn't great. Verizon though having a great network still has areas where Cingular or AT&T crush them... Why would Cingular want to buy AT&T? If you're asking that question don't even worry about the answer because you don't know about big business... Rephrase the question and ask Why would Cingular want to buy 1 of it's top 2 competitors? That answers itself... Why would Cingular want to purchase a network That is bigger than it's own and promises to increase our current coverage? Or even simpler for thos i've lost... Why would Cingular want to purchase the AT&T name? The name that started it all... Seriously, and how can anyone honestly sit there and say one companies coverage is horrible a...
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Big Daddy

Aug 28, 2004, 4:26 PM
I applaud you 😁
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mycool

Aug 28, 2004, 10:11 PM
Toxic said:
I work at a ATTWS Kiosk, inside the Oaks Mall, here in Gainesville, Fl.
I work with two other people a chick and a guy. I have to tell you, nobody around here likes or wants ATTWS. ATTWS can't eeven afford to advertise their product in the Gainesville Sun newspaper. I myself do not use ATTWS, because I know they s**k the b*g one.


Umm, so you work the Kiosk? *g* you must be full of knowledge in the wireless industry.

Though Cingular will or may buy out ATTWS, why waste money buying a company when our employees know the company rots!
GSM coverage here is NOT good, most people seem to prefer CDMA.


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Toxic

Aug 28, 2004, 10:31 PM
Oh by the way, I no longer work for ATTWS, I left on my terms.
I was offered a job making 10k more a year! I make a lot more than now than the highest paid cell salesman, I found a "liferaft" with money on it!
You do your resarch, the money is there!
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:08 AM
so you sell for Verizon you friggin liar
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Toxic

Aug 29, 2004, 12:26 AM
No Big Daddy I'm out of the cell world! By the way, weren't you part of "Z1's" council of 12? Yes you were. And by the way, I think so was "Mycool", I'll see if I can find Z1's past threads. I think he was right about the now infamous "12".
And you know B'Daddy, I never though of you to be to bright, and you've just prove it!. So why don't you stop posying sh**, give some other people chance to post questions so people other than yourself who have real brains can help them.
Big Daddy you should rename yourself, Big Fool!
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:31 AM
Enjoy your new job as streetwalker moron
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Toxic

Aug 29, 2004, 12:33 AM
I would love to, but your mother and sister beat me to it!
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:34 AM
well since my mother and sister are dead I dont care what you say about them but since you claim to be out of the wireless world quit posting on this website
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Toxic

Aug 29, 2004, 12:39 AM
You know BigDaddy if you had kept your "Big" mouth shut. I would of stayed off, but it's time to go out now (party) that is. Maybe you should be a streetwalker instead, it probably pays more than your pathetic present job.
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:40 AM
well I make more than you peter puffer, have a good night, get hammered and let an irish sailor ream out your cornhole
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Toxic

Aug 29, 2004, 12:35 AM
I don't about the rest of you but here it's saturday night, and I'm going out to paint the town red. By the way, the cell phone does NOT come with me. (Unlike most people who have them glued to their hip)
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Big Daddy

Aug 29, 2004, 12:37 AM
So you are queer...
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Myth

Aug 30, 2004, 1:07 PM
Big Daddy said:
So you are queer...

No, BD, that's me.

Though I have no idea what that has to do with cellphones, industry knowledge, being a complete and utter jerk, or going out on Saturday nights, with or without your cellphone.

...Well, I can see how it might influence where you go out, especially if you have nobody to go out with, but not the rest of it.
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mycool

Aug 29, 2004, 6:44 PM
Toxic said:
Oh by the way, I no longer work for ATTWS, I left on my terms.
I was offered a job making 10k more a year! I make a lot more than now than the highest paid cell salesman, I found a "liferaft" with money on it!
You do your resarch, the money is there!


10k more a year?! Wow, that's a lot. You make more than the highest paid cellular salesman? So I guess you make 170k a year because when I worked for AWS I made 25k/year part-time and I knew some people who made up to 160k from B2B sales. ****, right now I know some people who are making around 100k/year for being salesmen full-time in the wireless industry!

I doubt you even make as much as I did when I worked for AWS.
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Toxic

Aug 30, 2004, 11:17 AM
Please give me a break. If you made so much money, why are you always on these forums? Between you and BigDaddy and some of "Z1's council 11" don't you people have lives beyond these forums.
Oh by the way, I only have to work four days or less to make that money.
ATTWS was once the "cream of the crop", much like food, if left out, it spoils.
I'd put my money on Google.
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RoamDog

Aug 30, 2004, 1:15 PM
compare jobs and lives on some other forums please.

no one really cares.
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