Samsung murders Nokia
Once again too many assumptions have been made. Nokia does not suck, but the ideas behind the design and engineering of the phones sure does. Mr. Mellowdreamer, I actually have owned Nokia's, Motorolla's, and Samsungs, and have quite a bit of hands on experience with them. However, Nokia DOES sacrifice reception by not having and external antenna, the options the user menu gives you are limited, and 9 out of ten people have one hell of a time getting those damn battery covers off. Up until this year Nokia was the best phone, but Samsung has improved and the new models they now have give me only a quarter of the problems Nokia's gave me. And Bid Daddy you can SHUDDAFUGGUP because you just don't seen to be able to think too deep on things...
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That's odd, because Nokia phones are the best operating phones on all the GSM networks. Last year the NOKIA 3595 was the best "signal hugger" of any phone offered on the GSM networks. What's even more odd is the fact that the 3595 is an "entry level" phone.
I'm not bashing Samsung at all. I like Samsung and they offer some cool phones, but saying Samsung murders Nokia is quite a stretch. I can honestly say I have had reception problems with my samsungs. The Voicestream phone, Sprint Phone, Cingular phone.... I always had signal problems. Nokia has the largest market share for a reason, and it's because of phones like the 3595.
I'm not bashing Samsung at all. I like Samsung and they offer some cool phones, but saying Samsung murders Nokia is quite a stretch. I can honestly say I have had reception problems with my samsungs. The Voicestream phone, Sprint Phone, Cingular phone.... I always had signal problems. Nokia has the largest market share for a reason, and it's because of phones like the 3595.
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You must work TDMA care and not GSM because if u did you would hear all the complaints the x426 gave us. Horrible!! The v206 didnt give us so much hell because it was priced at 399.99, who would buy it and those that did hated it afterwards. The e316 also has the same problem with reception. I do admit the Samsung phones are very appealing and perhaps more than Nokias. Their screens are much much nicer BUT the nokias offer speaker phone which i need on my phone. None come equipped with bluetooth, at least here in the US. I have compared day in and out all the phones offered and by Nokia gets the best reception. But as much as I push them, they always go the flip flops (as the call it) and guess what on the 31st day they are asking "which pho...
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You must work TDMA care and not GSM because if u did you would hear all the complaints the x426 gave us. Horrible!! The v206 didnt give us so much hell because it was priced at 399.99, who would buy it and those that did hated it afterwards. The e316 also has the same problem with reception. I do admit the Samsung phones are very appealing and perhaps more than Nokias. Their screens are much much nicer BUT the nokias offer speaker phone which i need on my phone. None come equipped with bluetooth, at least here in the US. I have compared day in and out all the phones offered and by Nokia gets the best reception. But as much as I push them, they always go the flip flops (as the call it) and guess what on
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neorask said:
Actually Samsung offers speakerphone now. Also I guess you didn't see when I said NEW Samsung phones are better, NOT the old ones. Also I do GSM care too, and people do have problems with the X426, But comparable models on other companies like Verizon and Sprint don't.....which gives me further reason to believe that CDMA is actually the superior technology.
Lemme get this straight. You are saying CDMA is a superior technology based on the fact that Samsung makes a better CDMA phone than they do a GSM phone? OK. Nokia makes a better CDMA phone than Samsung does. Nokia also makes a GSM phone that is better than the CDMA phone. So by your same logic, GSM is better, right? Do us all a favor ...
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CainMarko said:
Lemme get this straight. You are saying CDMA is a superior technology based on the fact that Samsung makes a better CDMA phone than they do a GSM phone? OK. Nokia makes a better CDMA phone than Samsung does. Nokia also makes a GSM phone that is better than the CDMA phone. So by your same logic, GSM is better, right? Do us all a favor and don't judge a technology's viability based on a TV manufacturer's cell phones. My personal experience with Samsungs have been poor reception with Sprint Tmobile and Cingular. I actually liked the phones but reception wasn't too good. You may have had better luck with your Samsungs. In my opinion the best phone in existence right now is the Nokia 6620.
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Wow, that's some really extensive testing you've done there. I'm convinced. I'm quitting Cingular RIGHT NOW. Your whole "external antenna" statement is a joke. The reason you will see an external antenna on almost every CDMA phone, is because it's almost required to rec've good signal with a CDMA phone. Internal antennas are just as viable as external ones in GSM. Moto, Nokia, Seimens, and Sony Ericsson all offer phones with internal antennas.
You have a right to your opinion about Samsung and Nokia, but you'll be hard pressed to find many people to agree with you. There is a reason Nokia OWNS the market right now. They have the reputation of having the best reception in the industry.
You have a right to your opinion about Samsung and Nokia, but you'll be hard pressed to find many people to agree with you. There is a reason Nokia OWNS the market right now. They have the reputation of having the best reception in the industry.
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i wouldnt say that CDMA is a superior technology, its just more widely used in korea, samsung is a korean company, therfore thier phones will work better for sprint and verizon, but i have 0 reception issues w/ my phone and no one i know has any issues w/ theirs, most of the people i know with nokias want to flush them down the toilet because that is what people do with feces
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I guess that's why Nokia sells about 100 times the phones that Samsung does... if you lkike samsung, more power to ya... it's all about what works for you.
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i like samsung 😎........my personal experience w/ nokia vs. samsung, is why i like samsung more.......and nokia has sooooooo many phones and soooooo many of them are offered for "free", that is why nokia "outsells" their phones, i wouldnt call it "outselling" so much as giving away, granted, samsung does not have many GSM models at this point in time, CDMA is used more widely then GSM in korea which is why they have a much larger CDMA phone base, this does not imply whatsoever that CDMA is a better technology.....samsung is just going with what they know works
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well, they are offered "free" by the carriers, not Nokia. Nokia IS famous for entry level phones, but those same phones are notorious for having awesome reception. It's impossible for any company to please everyone, but Nokia seems to be handling it nicely.
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nokia offers a lot of entry level phones, what are they saying about their customers? 🤣 🤣
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What they are saying is that most customers simply want to make a phone call as simply and hassle free as possible, which is the absolute truth. Nokia's strengths? Excellent reception on BOTH their CDMA and GSM phones, fantastic battery life, and workhorse durability. I admit I prefer to carry a Samsung much of the time because they are so cool and I am a techno buff, but I don't think I will ever put my Nokia 6610 out to pasture because it is such a damn great phone.
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well that is where i typically disagree with people on nokia and their durability, etc.....but hey, its an opinion and opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one and they all stink 😛
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It's an opinion backed up by many many experiences with customers, and I honestly don't know how anyone can disagree. I can't tell you how many blue collar type customers I have helped who will only carry Nokias because they are so hard on them and they keep working.
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Nokia has THE reputation of workhorse phones. How many 5165's or 5120's are still in existence and still using up the airways. Samsung is a good product, but not a Nokia killer. They make good HDTV's tho. They absolutely DESTROY Nokia in the HDTV department. 😉
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Well take your wonderful Samsungs and hold the antenna while on a call and see how long you hold a call. Most of the Samsungs X426 and E316 will drop calls when you do this. This is the problem that we run into at the POS in the stores. Nokia makes a non fancy phone that just plain works.
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🤣 What type of intelligent person would make a phone call and go out of their way to completely cover the antenna, the phones sole source of decent call quality and reception.. the reason that NOKIA's DONT do that is because they have INTERNAL antennas.. you CANT block their reception.. if you HOLD the antenna while your on a call than you deserve a dropped call, you don't need service ever..
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Yes I agree Tech Rep is 100 percent correct, I just have one question...how come I cant make a call from my underground nuclear shelter?
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I would like to clear up the misconception that an internal antenna is inferior to an external antenna. The fact is that they consist of the same components: a coil. The coil has the same number of windings dependent on the frequency it is working for. The location of the antenna on a phone is insignificant because they are both encased in a plastic housing and the incoming signal gets to them just as easily. The true reception characteristic is due to the RF amplifier/modulator of the device and how well it makes use of weaker signals. I agree that Nokia holds the majority of the market share. This in my opinion is based on the fact that they have superior engineering and ingenuity. Since Day-1, their devices have used easy-to-navigate-thro...
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