Using Roaming Minutes
I was told by a customer service rep that you can use all of your plan minutes in roaming if you have a fair and flexible plan or maybe it was a new kind of plan they offer. Last thing I knew you could use up to half of your anytime mins...does anyone know of a roaming plan that includes your plan mins.
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No such plan, and one thing else it's half your USAGE, not half your anytime minutes... basically if you have a 2000 minute plan, and only use 1000 minutes for the month, up to 500 of those 1000 minutes can be roaming... So remember half you total USAGE, Not half you total anytime minutes.
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the whole roaming hting is tricky. yes you can only use half your mins in roaming. but what happends if you go over? the first month you go over you will get a letter that basically says "you went over your roaming mins please stop going over" the second month IN A ROW that you go over you will receave a letter "you went over if you continue to do sot he roaming option will be removed." The third month IN A ROW that you go over you will get the same letter "you went over if you continue to do sot he roaming option will be removed." if you go over a 4th month IN A ROW then they will remove the roaming feature andt hey will take it off and you will pay roaming. a cuple other points if you are on a family plan it is half the total mins used by ...
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There's no point in having "cool tech toys" if you can't use them. Ready Link, Vision, and the like DON'T WORK when you're off-network. If you can't get voice coverage in the area you need your phone the most, then there's absolutely no point in sticking with that carrier. Sprint understands that, which is why they don't charge the Early Termination Fee if a customer's home is outside of a coverage area, or if the customer moves out of coverage.
Cingular does have superior coverage when compared to Sprint. Most GSM carriers do. CDMA is a beautiful, amazingly-advanced technology, but it has its limits and it's not for everyone.
Cingular does have superior coverage when compared to Sprint. Most GSM carriers do. CDMA is a beautiful, amazingly-advanced technology, but it has its limits and it's not for everyone.
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Slander said:
CDMA is a beautiful, amazingly-advanced technology, but it has its limits and it's not for everyone.
What exactly do you mean by limited? I think you mean Sprint CDMA coverage IS limited! right?
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Oh really? What rock do you live under? I suppose you don't think Cingular has video phones or fast data? You DO realize that EDGE is faster than anything you currently offer? Ready link on Sprint is a joke. Latency is ridiculous. Our PTT solution is in final testing, and ReadyLink is the main reason we are taking our time. Sprint and VZW's PTT are pitiful compared to Nextel's. We are striving for something better than either of you offer, and will take the extra time to deliver it.
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wow the bottemless pit of missinformation keeps spewing out more and more fertilizer.
i wonder if this guy has ever goen into a store and seen sprint RL in action. i doubt it. now about RL nextel is still the fastest for initial connection. RL has a real world latency to 1 sec average for the initial conection once the connection is established the ag time is less then half a second much closer to .1 sec. very simalar to nextel. but hey i am sure that once cingular has wcdma deploind on 1/3 of its network it will release there version of ptt which undoutably will probubly just telaport you to the other person instantly any where on the cingular gsm network. i am sure some one in thsi forum will probubly make that claim 🙄
i wonder if this guy has ever goen into a store and seen sprint RL in action. i doubt it. now about RL nextel is still the fastest for initial connection. RL has a real world latency to 1 sec average for the initial conection once the connection is established the ag time is less then half a second much closer to .1 sec. very simalar to nextel. but hey i am sure that once cingular has wcdma deploind on 1/3 of its network it will release there version of ptt which undoutably will probubly just telaport you to the other person instantly any where on the cingular gsm network. i am sure some one in thsi forum will probubly make that claim 🙄
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I had a Sprint phone... real world testing in NE was more like 2 seconds for initial connect, and about a one to one and a half second delay thereafter.
Where are you getting that 1/3 WCDMA crap from? I stated we are 2/3 complete with EDGE.
SHow me the list of markets where EVDO is available on Sprint's network. I'm dying to see it, since NO wireless resource I have has ANY info on it.
Where are you getting that 1/3 WCDMA crap from? I stated we are 2/3 complete with EDGE.
SHow me the list of markets where EVDO is available on Sprint's network. I'm dying to see it, since NO wireless resource I have has ANY info on it.
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i am not at liberty to show you the markets that have ed-do established yet that is propritary infor mation and i like my job to much to show you the info.
and the 1/3 wcdma was a number i made up as part of the sarcastic remark
and the 1/3 wcdma was a number i made up as part of the sarcastic remark
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Here's the truth...not ONE SPRINT CUSTOMER can use EVDO on network yet.
But 2/3 of Cingular's customers can access EDGE.
But 2/3 of Cingular's customers can access EDGE.
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well maybe if the remaining 1/3 of your customers just moved to that 2/3's area, it might help you out there...hehehe...as for the umts and wcdma and all of the other stuff that you WILL be coming out with...I don't feel that you should be able to use that in your arguement PP, for the simple reason that you don't have any of that available and you have no way of knowing exactly when they will be available...sure The Company says that it will be deployed by such and such a date but how often does that date stay the same? And when it does change have you ever seen a date be moved up on something thats going to be deployed?
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Saw that just recently, when Cingular finished their nationwide GSM upgrade 6 months ahead of schedule.
EDGE covers more territory than VZW's rollout of EVDO. That much is clear.
EDGE data speeds are higher than 1xRTT. This is also clear.
Neither work on analog. Also clear.
So when Cingular completes its rollout of EDGE, by end 3Q, it will work anywhere, while EVDO will only work in digital coverage areas.
In real time, as of now, Cingular's data speeds are actually higher across more of its network.
How's that for current info without the psychic predictions?
EDGE covers more territory than VZW's rollout of EVDO. That much is clear.
EDGE data speeds are higher than 1xRTT. This is also clear.
Neither work on analog. Also clear.
So when Cingular completes its rollout of EDGE, by end 3Q, it will work anywhere, while EVDO will only work in digital coverage areas.
In real time, as of now, Cingular's data speeds are actually higher across more of its network.
How's that for current info without the psychic predictions?
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phonepimp3376 said:
Saw that just recently, when Cingular finished their nationwide GSM upgrade 6 months ahead of schedule.
EDGE covers more territory than VZW's rollout of EVDO. That much is clear.
EDGE data speeds are higher than 1xRTT. This is also clear.
Neither work on analog. Also clear.
So when Cingular completes its rollout of EDGE, by end 3Q, it will work anywhere, while EVDO will only work in digital coverage areas.
In real time, as of now, Cingular's data speeds are actually higher across more of its network.
How's that for current info without the psychic predictions?
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lemme see where did I put that link?
http://wirelessreview.com/ar/wireless_verizon_beats_ ... »
there it is!
http://wirelessreview.com/ar/wireless_verizon_beats_ ... »
there it is!
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key point to that link:
1XRTT is expected to reach a peak speed of 144 kbps compared to 115 kbps for GPRS. However, both standards are expected to offer consumers an average of between 40 and 60 kbps, making the discrepancy in data rates less of a differentiator than some have thought.
1XRTT is expected to reach a peak speed of 144 kbps compared to 115 kbps for GPRS. However, both standards are expected to offer consumers an average of between 40 and 60 kbps, making the discrepancy in data rates less of a differentiator than some have thought.
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Exactly... that's why I gave ya that one.
The only significant increase in speed won't happen until HSDPA hits.
The only significant increase in speed won't happen until HSDPA hits.
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hmmm i just read that article from 2002 wow! that is old! probably not acurate any longer but we will use it any ways.
GPRS 115 25 .016
EDGE Classic 384 75-100 .060
W-CDMA 2000 800 .220
1X (standard/enhanced) 153/307 80/160 .210
1X EV DO 2400 1250 .650
hmmm lets look at that. edge real world speed 75-100 1x real world speed 80-160 looks like 1x wins! but that is just acroding to the link phonepimp posted
you would think he would learn to actually read an article before quoteing from it!
GPRS 115 25 .016
EDGE Classic 384 75-100 .060
W-CDMA 2000 800 .220
1X (standard/enhanced) 153/307 80/160 .210
1X EV DO 2400 1250 .650
hmmm lets look at that. edge real world speed 75-100 1x real world speed 80-160 looks like 1x wins! but that is just acroding to the link phonepimp posted
you would think he would learn to actually read an article before quoteing from it!
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I did read it, moron... notice where it says they are actually close as hell in the REAL world...that was my point. VZW got it. Put down the hostility pills.
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now he changes his story? now he is saying edge is close as hell to 1x in the real world?
i think phone pimp is actually kerry in disuse!
i think phone pimp is actually kerry in disuse!
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And I think you will do whatever it takes to pick a goddamned fight. The real world is what people pay for, and in real life testing EDGE bests 1xRTT.
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🙄 i think you just tied a not in your toung with that one because it made no since
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stevelvl said:
hmmm i just read that article from 2002 wow! that is old! probably not acurate any longer but we will use it any ways.
GPRS 115 25 .016
EDGE Classic 384 75-100 .060
W-CDMA 2000 800 .220
1X (standard/enhanced) 153/307 80/160 .210
1X EV DO 2400 1250 .650
hmmm lets look at that. edge real world speed 75-100 1x real world speed 80-160 looks like 1x wins! but that is just acroding to the link phonepimp posted
you would think he would learn to actually read an article before quoteing from it!
Can I call a time on this...according to those number it says WCDMA Top Speed of 2000kbps
EV-DO Top Speed 2400kbps
Isn't UMTS dependent on WCDMA? Is that the technology th...
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UMTS is primarily a voice tech... the data software upgrade is HSDPA, with top speeds of 14.4 Mbps. Quite a bit higher than EDGE or EVDO.
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Well if thats the case then what Data are they talking about with the WCDMA on there?
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darn if I know... latest I have is UMTS max 384 kbps without the HSDPA upgrade.
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hmmm...interesting...what could that possibly be...are you guys hiding something?
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thevzwman that is what i was talking about. he really should rea dhis articles before he posts them
but i did defend the guy i mean the article was from 2002 so i would hardly consider it a reliable sorce any ways
but i did defend the guy i mean the article was from 2002 so i would hardly consider it a reliable sorce any ways
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Don't you people get sick of having the same argument every day, on every board? I sure do get sick of seeing you guys going at it.
It's wireless, not war.
It's wireless, not war.
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Actually we haven't had a good Data discussion in any forum for at least 2 weeks... 😁
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that was written in 2002... all of your sources seem to be old PP.... i mean those may have been good times for you, but find some more up-to-date information and i'll take you seriously. just kidding, i won't really take you seriously.. but atleast i won't think you're a moron...as much of a moron.. 😁
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Edge works anywhere? VZW's only works on it's lowly digital network? More opinion than fact there.
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Cingular's coverage, if you read my posts, is ALL DIGITAL on our GSM network. The distinction I was trying to make is this: When EDGE is deployed fully, it will work on the WHOLE network, since it is all digital. Either VZW has to replace analog with digital, or EVDO will only work in the digital coverage area.
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Here's the truth...not ONE SPRINT CUSTOMER can use EVDO on network yet.
But 2/3 of Cingular's customers can access EDGE.
let me go ahead and finish that for you.
hear is the truth 2/3 of ciingulars customers can access edge but 100% of sprints customers can access vision and RL.
But 2/3 of Cingular's customers can access EDGE.
let me go ahead and finish that for you.
hear is the truth 2/3 of ciingulars customers can access edge but 100% of sprints customers can access vision and RL.
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i hope, for your sake and the sake of your ridiculous pride, that you are right. i had 6 activations this week ALONE porting from cingular... and though your reasoning is noble in regards to why cingular is last out of the gate with their "still in testing" PTT devices.... i HIGHLY doubt that is factual info. especially when cingular's EDGE is available to only 25 of the 50 states, and those are your "bragging rights". Haha... I love how you talk about all the awesome things up cingular's sleeve... like, well they are coming out with this soon, and this, OH AND when THIS comes out you guys will be sorry, and THIS is going to blow your **** out of the water... yeah, whatever. for now, cingular is what it is... don't brag about technology that...
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dakz... do me a favor... pick up a copy of WirelessWeek or RCR Wireless News. These aren't MY projections, they are published projections from wireless insiders.
Here is the link for the UMTS/HSDPA info you see me refer to often:
http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/CA432357?text=ci ... »
The timetable for launch I will admit is speculative and based on what I hear from our techs.
As for PTT, there are a number of different platforms being tested, and modifications being made to each. We want to get it right... more right than is currently available. We are not following the standard method, but looking at possibilities to improve on what's there.
Getting the handset vendors to design the phones is also ...
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Here is the link for the UMTS/HSDPA info you see me refer to often:
http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/CA432357?text=ci ... »
The timetable for launch I will admit is speculative and based on what I hear from our techs.
As for PTT, there are a number of different platforms being tested, and modifications being made to each. We want to get it right... more right than is currently available. We are not following the standard method, but looking at possibilities to improve on what's there.
Getting the handset vendors to design the phones is also ...
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So PP why is it that VZW gets bashed for testing to try to make things right but when Cingular does it all of a sudden it's a noble cause? And VZW Motorola phone can not be used in this agrument!
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so it's not even good enough for a live test yet??? Come on PP you guys are slackin!!! 🤣
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With something as critical as this, we are taking no chances. It's getting live testing from my understanding, but on a closed network.
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