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Instinct soon to be Extinct?

evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 8:40 AM
Seems as as Sprint got one upped again. They touted then Instinct as an iPhone killer then Apple releases 3G iPhone before Instnct launch. Even those who see no value in the iPhone will have a hard time knocking this one:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/06/23/samsung-om ... »

Again, a real OS with 3rd party apps. (Not just "rumored" SDK for java crap like most dumb phones).

Sprint needs to get some devices like this. It's obvious they can't cant compete with just their "superior" network. They need some killer devices! Sprint may actually HAVE a better network, which is subjective to where you live, but that doesn't help them because they aren't KNOWN for it. They aren't really telling advertising ...
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Dogism

Jun 24, 2008, 8:56 AM
The instinct is doing very well in the stores, there are always other phones by others carries. I fail to see the point of this thread.
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MissSLM07

Jun 24, 2008, 9:16 AM
I agree! Im sick of people talking about this iPhone killer crap! I've never heard anyone say that the Instinct was going to be the iPhone killer. 🙄
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iz

Jun 24, 2008, 10:10 AM
You maybe haven't been to the movies lately. There's sprint ad with all this drama in it, at the end it says "An Iphone Killer"

But I think the HTC Touch Diamond Pro is going to be the Iphone Killer.
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 10:33 AM
iz said:
You maybe haven't been to the movies lately. There's sprint ad with all this drama in it, at the end it says "An Iphone Killer"

But I think the HTC Touch Diamond Pro is going to be the Iphone Killer.


Or the Sprint website DEDICATED to pitting the Instinct against the iPhone. If it's not already down, it should be by the 11th.

I think both of those devices are going to be nice but I don't think anything with WM on it is going to kill the iPhone. I think Android based devices are going to have the best chance at that. WM devices are just too unstable and never have decent battery life without turning them into bricks with extended batteries.
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MissSLM07

Jun 24, 2008, 8:24 PM
I don't understand what the big deal is. Some of you people act like the iPhone can turn water into wine... 🤣 . Its just a phone...Geeeeez!!!
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 8:51 PM
MissSLM07 said:
I don't understand what the big deal is. Some of you people act like the iPhone can turn water into wine... 🤣 . Its just a phone...Geeeeez!!!


It most certainly cannot! That will require a 3rd party application.

And no, not even our fanboys think the device is flawless. What is? Our point is that what the device does, and will do, it does it better than anything else out there.

However, I honestly believe that the best phone on the market right now.... is the one that works best for you. 😉
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Yean

Jun 24, 2008, 9:21 PM


Amen to that.
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Yean

Jun 24, 2008, 9:34 PM
Didn't quote what evilhomer stated before I put Amen to that. evilhoer's quote is " However, I honestly believe that the best phone on the market right now.... is the one that works best for you "
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liquidfire

Jun 24, 2008, 12:34 PM
first off that was quoted from a newspaper or magazine. secondly, yes it is an iphone killer. its better than the orig iphone. the 3g iphone HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET.
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 9:19 AM
Dogism said:
The instinct is doing very well in the stores, there are always other phones by others carries. I fail to see the point of this thread.


I made more points in that post than just a new device. Try reading slower next time. I never said it wasn't a good seller, in fact I think I made mention of that fact.

If you didn't see the point in the post, then I don't see the point in replying to it.
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Dogism

Jun 24, 2008, 9:23 AM
Oh I read it and still can't see any point in posting this in the sprint forum. i think your intentions are just to be a cold water thrower.
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 9:45 AM
Sorry you feel that way but Sprint needs some cold water thrown on its face and wake it up. They need to do something more spectacular device wise if they want to turn the spotlight off of the poor CS and start getting some subscribers back until they CAN fix the CS.
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 9:21 AM
Again, why are you on this forum?

Sprint Speed, ever hear that? It has been their slogan for the last few months.

And have you not seen any thread on the new HTC PRO, and Diamond? If not check this out.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Diamond-CD ... »

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Raphael-CDMA-pho ... »

I think you need to research before you post here again, but cool phone you should put a link on the AT&T forum to get a more useful response.
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 9:42 AM
Sprint Speed has nothing to do with "reliable network"... They tout fast, but they speak nothing about coverage. Just Sprint speed for less. What the heck does that really matter to most cell phone users? Most of the cell phone users in this country aren't as concerned about how fast they can download a ringtone as they are about the coverage and reliability of the network.

And please. How many more HTC battery sucking devices do we need? The average cell users need for than a half a days life from a charge and most don't want to carry around two batteries to make it through the day. The Instinct already has two batteries because many people aren't making it through the day with one. Don't get me wrong, HTC makes good handsets for the mo...
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 10:35 AM
Again you still don't know what you're talking about, I've been using HTC phones for the last few months and my roommate has been for the last 2 years, the only time either our batteries kick out is when we're powerhousing the internet and music and not exiting programs. By the way anyone using WM phone make sure you exit programs when you're done.

What proof do you have about GSM using less battery life? I never experienced that, plus CDMA is WAYY stronger especially in my market (northeast)

Do you even work for a phone company? Please stop quoting what you've heard and posting it here. Unless you actually have experienced or have quoted a realiable source you're junking this forum. I mean this in a nice way. 😉
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 10:50 AM
drake said:
Again you still don't know what you're talking about, I've been using HTC phones for the last few months and my roommate has been for the last 2 years, the only time either our batteries kick out is when we're powerhousing the internet and music and not exiting programs. By the way anyone using WM phone make sure you exit programs when you're done.

What proof do you have about GSM using less battery life? I never experienced that, plus CDMA is WAYY stronger especially in my market (northeast)

Do you even work for a phone company? Please stop quoting what you've heard and posting it here. Unless you actually have experienced or have quoted a realiable source you're junking this forum. I mean this in a nic
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 10:52 AM
Drake; Sorry, I didn't mean to call you a moron. I can't blame you for not knowing. BTW: Do YOU work for a wireless carrier. I don't but have worked in wireless technology for over a decade.
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 5:19 PM
CDMA, comes up with

Increased security for wireless communications
Duplex conversations
increased efficiency that allows a large network to handle traffic effectively (better return for buck spent)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE FOR PHONES as low power consumption
Better capacity and reach

🤣

What a joke, troll elsewhere

Plus this was done for CDMA 800 which is not used in the U.S.

At least when I quote something I read it first so I don't sound like a clown.
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jrfdsf

Jun 24, 2008, 4:59 PM
drake said:
Again, why are you on this forum?...

Because Sprint is his favorite subject, why else? 😉
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 5:21 PM
Right, check out his supporting link on why GSM have better battery life that I quote;


CDMA, comes up with

Increased security for wireless communications
Duplex conversations
increased efficiency that allows a large network to handle traffic effectively (better return for buck spent)
Better battery life for phones as low power consumption
Better capacity and reach

Notice anything on that?
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ArmySF

Jun 24, 2008, 10:01 AM
their qchat phones 😢 I don't know what sprint was thinking but these phones suck! I can't see how this poorly made phones will win over any Nextel loyalest!

The pro serious is a joke, light weight phones with a tiny screen. LG 😢 The samsung was ok but I wouldn't by it.
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 10:38 AM
What's going on with Qchat phones? They are not available in my market, but the Pro 700 seems pretty decent as far as durabilty

Why did you post this on this tread?
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ArmySF

Jun 24, 2008, 10:58 AM
i already told you imo they suck. the pro 700 is a complete waste of resources. anyone who uses Nextel will not want these phones.
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drake

Jun 24, 2008, 4:43 PM
No, I'm curious what's wrong with them other then they "suck" I'm looking for feedback on the device not a teenage slander
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scoobypls

Jun 24, 2008, 9:24 PM
i can't wait to get out of my nextel 335 and into either the 700 pro or the samsung 400...the only thing i was disapointed about with the pro series is the lack of a camera...

the availability of the ndc will be the biggest problem for current nextel customers looking for a sprint phone with dc. (only works in limited rev a)

my 335 isn't even 7 months old, even with yearly upgrades i don't think i will make it...have you ever tried to do anything other than use the radio on a nextel phone, NOT USER FRIENDLY AT ALL!!!

The transition for the casual nextel user will be seemless as long as they are in a rev a market. they will enjoy the heck out of the better call quality and feature rich phones!
😁 😁
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VZDUB1914

Jun 24, 2008, 10:21 PM
Well, VZW is launching a product soon according to a recently release article from RCR...you should check out their phones when they launch...
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Yean

Jun 25, 2008, 1:24 PM
Are you worried about the weight and screens of the Q-Chat phones? The LCD is pretty comparable to the majority of iDEN. Keep in mind that Moto made the iDEN network and made their handsets. The new Moto Q-Chat phone from Moto should arrive soon. I had the chance to get my mits on them. I'm sure you'll find the Moto product better than LG's, Sanyo's, and Samsung's.
I do have to say, the Q-Chat phones are still a little buggy and there is a very slight delay on the DC compared to the iDEN DC, and if the MDN's (which can be used as the DC number) 7th number in the 10 digits has a 0, you have to have a iDEN DC like numer. ex.(xxx)xxx-0xxx, the DC has to change to xx*xxx*xxxx*x.
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ArmySF

Jun 25, 2008, 2:13 PM
I noticed the Sanyo 700 was very light maybe I just love my phone to much (moto i580), but the phone lacked substance/heft. What other Motorola qchat phones are coming out besides Moto v950?...because that phone looks like a razr with rubber sides! 😢 Anything close to the ic902 with retractable antenna, and design of a real Nextel phone?

Forget my dislike of the current qchat lineup, do you think these phone are capable of capturing the nextel crowd? i don't.
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Yean

Jun 25, 2008, 2:33 PM
Sprint and the Q-Chat manufactures made a Q-Chat phone, NOT another iDEN phone, the iDEN phone has already been made. It's not going to easy for the loyal iDEN users to swap to Q-Chat. Loyal iDEN users are going to compare and usually find what the phone doesn't have compared to the iDEN. If iDEN is your choice, keep it. I can see you're fustration due to Sprint Nextel not updating their iDEN handset portfolio.
If I were an iDEN use, I'd be upset too, but I feel the iDEN PTT is still tops at the moment, and Q-Chat will only get better within time (technology and handset wise). Cheers.

-Yean

P.S. the v950 was the phone I played with. I'm sure when you have hands on the device, you'll appreciate it better than how's it's explained or by...
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ArmySF

Jun 25, 2008, 2:45 PM
Yean said:
Sprint and the Q-Chat manufactures made a Q-Chat phone, NOT another iDEN phone,


That is a mistake I can understand they're wanting to make a more consumer friendly phone, and steer away from the heavy bricks... but a balance would of have been a better choice. I will hold out hope for the V950 🙂
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Yean

Jun 25, 2008, 2:52 PM
😉 There's going to be at least 4 to 6 new phones coming,or, are out, for field testers and BETA testers. If There's another Q-Chat enabled phones, that's more "Nextel like", you'll be one of the 1st I'll notify. I know at least 3 are non Q-Chat. Samsung Jazz m630 (replaces UpStage) and Samsung m530, and Sanyo Eclipse.
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ArmySF

Jun 25, 2008, 2:55 PM
😉 Cool thanks Yean...any rough date for the release of the v950?
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drake

Jun 25, 2008, 2:58 PM
What can you do if you're Sprint tho, from what I hear they are being forced to get the IDEN range clear because big brother wants it for the military or something (don't know exactly where I even heard it, but I've been watching this process since 2003). I think they're doing their best with what they have, I still don't understand how Qchat can connect as fast as it can with a direct connect phone. But I think its a stride in the right direction to get people off IDEN.
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Yean

Jun 25, 2008, 3:14 PM
The iDEN frequency is interfering with Military, public workers, and emergency help. FCC doesn't want Sprint Nextel to inter-fear with these channels. FCC is forcing Sprint to switch their frquency or forced to be turned off.
As you know, the Q-Chat phones are EvDO Rev.A, enabled. The speeds are so fast, the VoIP allows Q-Chat to connect to iDEN.
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cell_G

Jun 24, 2008, 4:29 PM
did you go on this site and compare the instinct and the 3g iphone? if you did you would know that the instinct still hase better spec's
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evilhomer

Jun 24, 2008, 5:32 PM
Like what? Smaller screen with lower resolution? Slower processor? Lack of true OS? Such poor battery life that you need two? (Typical of Samsung devices) And you think video and music playback can even touch iPhone because NOTHING has been able to touch the MP3 world since Apple. Do you have access to the iTunes store from that device that only has the largest selection of online music anywhere?

Maybe it's the corporate apps like the Exchange sync?

Maybe instead of me guessing, you could tell me just what it is that is better about the Instinct vs. the iPhone. Two people in my office got their this weekend and they are returning it on July 11th because, in their words, "I like your iPhone better"...
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arsimckhoi

Jun 24, 2008, 9:25 PM
so your argument you feel wins based on asthetics? (did is spell that right?)... don't get me wrong i love the iphone and the instinct but when it comes to region i live in sprint and evdo rev a haul ass compared to everyone else's, well verizon has rev a too... are you gonna knock the glyde? glyde is a cool phone too... but the rev a and interface just well seems blocky and clumsy which is another bit of asthetics i suppose... it'll be even cooler when verizon qchat phones are interoperable with sprint qchat and the networks with be able to communicate via chirp...

ah but i may have said too much

let the fan boys argue!
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