🤣 This is worth a bump! LOL

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i dont think that will happen tmobile is to smart to take that on, they have a solid business model that is working for them. yes they could gain lots of spectrum, and with sprint bargain basement stock price it could be a good deal..but far more head ache than its worth.


plus i enjoy watching sprint implode on a quarterly basis 🤣

Oh no, you misunderstand... T-Mobile can become No.3 without buying Nextel.

They could get #3 if Sprint sells Nextel (good idea) and then out severely out net-adds Sprint for a few quarters (not too hard to do right now).

The joy of implosion is another thing entirely. 😳

They are already number 3 that is why Rich has them listed in third place. Take away iden customer and only count cdma and sprint is losing to tmobile. and sinking further and further 😁

how is sprint's 35.5 million CDMA customers losing to BigStink's 30 million? I'm not really following your math here.... 😕

Yeah Tmobile has a solid business model, releasing 3g 5 years later than competitors. For users who require the best coverage, data connection, and general technology, Tmobile is NOT THE CHOICE. There are at least 3 better companies to choose from. Actually choosing one of Sprint's little MVNO networks would actually be an upgrade technology wise over Tmobile, since of course they piggy back on Sprint's network. Tmobile is a joke! You must ONLY use your phone for talking if you're a tmobile customer. Otherwise you would have already left due to painfully slow internet, ****ty phones (Sidekick LOL), and limited coverage. Not to mention terrible plans.

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Yeah Tmobile has a solid business model, releasing 3g 5 years later than competitors. For users who require the best coverage, data connection, and general technology, Tmobile is NOT THE CHOICE. There are at least 3 better companies to choose from. Actually choosing one of Sprint's little MVNO networks would actually be an upgrade technology wise over Tmobile, since of course they piggy back on Sprint's network. Tmobile is a joke!

And yet, the sad thing?

T-Mobile net added a million customers last quarter.
Sprint net LOST a million customers last quarter.

When a 'joke' is wiping the floor with you, you know you're in deep trouble. 😢

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Haha BURN!

And Sprint could lose many millions more before Tmobile would have more customers. 🤣

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And Sprint could lose many millions more before Tmobile would have more customers.

Maybe not. Actually, Sprint losing No.3 is a lot easier than you might think.

If Sprint sells Nextel, which could be a very wise and perhaps life-saving move for them, that would bring Sprint down to 36 million customers or so, only about 5 million ahead of T-Mobile.

How many more quarters of Sprint losing a million customers and T-Mobile gaining a million customers before Sprint would lose No.3 then? About three.

Unless of course Sprint can get its act together and stop bleeding customers right and left, but I don't think that's a simple or quick thing to do. Heck, Sprint's customer losses may even ac...
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SystemShock said:

Xfort said:
And Sprint could lose many millions more before Tmobile would have more customers.

Maybe not. Actually, Sprint losing No.3 is a lot easier than you might think.

If Sprint sells Nextel, which could be a very wise and perhaps life-saving move for them, that would bring Sprint down to 36 million customers or so, only about 5 million ahead of T-Mobile.

How many more quarters of Sprint losing a million customers and T-Mobile gaining a million customers before Sprint would lose No.3 then? About three.

Unless of course Sprint can get its act together and stop bleeding customers right and left, but I don't think that's a simple or quick thing to do. Heck

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We could say what if what if all day. Nextel customers ARE Sprint customers so therefore count towards Sprints customer base.

The idea that nextel will be sold is very far fetched

Actually, no, it isn't. Sprint apparently is strongly considering the idea:

Wireless provider Sprint Nextel (News - Alert) Corp. is considering spinning off or selling its ailing Nextel unit, but no deal is imminent, Wall Street Journal reporters Amol Sharma and Joann Lublin say. Those rumors come on the heels of other rumors thatDeutsche Telekom ( News - Alert) is investigating a purchase of Sprint.

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SystemShock said:

Xfort said:
We could say what if what if all day. Nextel customers ARE Sprint customers so therefore count towards Sprints customer base.

The idea that nextel will be sold is very far fetched

Actually, no, it isn't. Sprint apparently is strongly considering the idea:

Wireless provider Sprint Nextel (News - Alert) Corp. is considering spinning off or selling its ailing Nextel unit, but no deal is imminent, Wall Street Journal reporters Amol Sharma and Joann Lublin say. Those rumors come on the heels of other rumors thatDeutsche Telekom ( News - Alert) is investigating a purchase of Sprint.


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But nextels network sucked BEFORE sprint. Call me ignorant, but sprint was my first, and has been my only carrier. before AND after sprints aquisition (please hold while the nextel subscriber is trying to reach is located) Happened...ALL the time. So why the hell are nextel customers mad at sprint? the only reason I'd EVER contemplate nextels incredibly large, and feature deficient phones is the direct-connect feature, and I can only assume that thier former and current customers are the same. Nextels ACTUAL wireless service map is as pathetic as metro pcs, and has only gotten better after sprint bought them out. One can only assume that sprint aquired nextel in hopes to convert them, or make bad-ass hybrid handsets. Although that failed mis...
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not in the world, but you and I seem to be some of the very few on this forum.

Xfort said:

SystemShock said:

Xfort said:
And Sprint could lose many millions more before Tmobile would have more customers.

Maybe not. Actually, Sprint losing No.3 is a lot easier than you might think.

If Sprint sells Nextel, which could be a very wise and perhaps life-saving move for them, that would bring Sprint down to 36 million customers or so, only about 5 million ahead of T-Mobile.

How many more quarters of Sprint losing a million customers and T-Mobile gaining a million customers before Sprint would lose No.3 then? About three.

Unless of course Sprint can get its act together and stop bleeding customers right and left, but I don't think that's a s

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Yup, right! Glad you agree. Tmobile has a MUCH smaller coverage area than Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T. Tmobile is basically trash technology wise and as a system compared to the other big companies. Tmobile is better than Cricket though... if that makes you feel better! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Wow, You are about as uneducated of a person I have seen when it comes to wireless. How is T-Mobile Trash technology wise? They use the same technology that AT&T and the vast majority of the world uses(GSM). I saw you also brought up the 3g arguement, yes they just launched it. But T-Mobiles business model was to create a great customer experience, great rate plans and strong voice network(Which by the way ranks higher than Sprint in pretty much any survey I have seen in regards to fewer dropped calls,call quality etc.) It was always their plan to make Data/3G second.I don't know if you have ever worked in wireless but the demand for Aircards and High Speed PDA devices is not exactly booming.It has its niche but the VAST MAJORITY of customer...
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Ok, management within Sprint... above store management? That would be a regional manager, which if you were that you would have said so. You are unlike every other Sprint peon here lieing about your unimportant job and complaining. Are you kidding me about the market for PDA devices and air cards isnt booming??? HAHAHAH. Moron, it is booming more than ever before. Fool. As for me knowing the wireless industry, I work within the heart of Sprint's network. I literally control the traffic to the call centers, with the ability to turn them on and off with a click of my mouse. I have weekly meetings with the executive team to discuss the state of our call traffic and billing platform conversions. I was a trained tech for Nextel before the ...
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I hope you get fired! 🤣

Bellevue 🤣

Whats funny about Bellevue? Being one of the richest cities in the country and offering some of the most high tech career paths anywhere deserves a lol? Whats wrong with you cellenator? I live in Overland Park KS now and work at the Sprint headquarters so lol at Bellevue all you want.

My apologies then, for someone who is so important and qualified, you sure do come off as ignorant and stupid when you post.

Now it has been awhile since I have been caught (LIEING??) about something.

And as for my statement about PDA's and aircards not booming, being on the sales side and actually seeing the numbers I know that PDA devices and aircards make up a small number of the gross adds.

As for T-Mobile, I know that you won't take this seriously because most people who are apart of the team that is in last place rarely do but in the JD Power that was just released, T-Mobile ranked second behind Verizon among national carriers for customers most satisfied with their network performance.

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Ignorant AND stupid? Wow, that hurt my feelings! You are non-educated AND lack education~! Get a clue buddy, JD Power can say what it wants about happy customers, thats good and all but it still doesnt make Tmobiles coverage any larger OR their data anu faster. Thats another 5 years down the road.

Oh and if Sprint goes, it is highly unlikely my job would do anything besides roll into the new company. So in the end I dont care if Sprint were to be bought out so long as my pay keeps climbing yearly.

Very impressive you work in sales, you go to college for that? You must live lavish! Just because you dont sell many aircards doesnt mean the data side of cellular isnt booming for every company, especially Sprint. Next time you say so...
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Wow, You are about as uneducated of a person I have seen when it comes to wireless. How is T-Mobile Trash technology wise? They use the same technology that AT&T and the vast majority of the world uses(GSM). I saw you also brought up the 3g arguement, yes they just launched it. But T-Mobiles business model was to create a great customer experience, great rate plans and strong voice network(Which by the way ranks higher than Sprint in pretty much any survey I have seen in regards to fewer dropped calls,call quality etc.) It was always their plan to make Data/3G second.I don't know if you have ever worked in wireless but the demand for Aircards and High Speed PDA devices is not exactly booming.It has its nic

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By the way I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but where I live, which is not rural, Tmo blows. If you stand outside you are ok, but in building coverage is awful. Oh yeah and 3g was JUST rolled out five years after everybody else. This is scary, because even in an urban area, (100,000 plus) there is still no EDGE in many parts of the area today so how long will 3G REALLY take. (I guarantee that Tmo never told you areas would not have GPRS in 2008.) Again if you are 16 refer to the glossary, I know the first phone you sold was a VX8350. Maybe this was ok in the 90's when everybody had a landline, but c'mon its 2008 D-Comm. Why can this company do so well in Europe, and here cannot even really compare?

What do you mean can't compare? For one they destroyed Sprint last quarter in pretty much every financial metric in the business.Not to mention they are probably the most profitable division of DT, even better than their European team.

Also T-Mobile is widely considered to have the best customer service team in wireless.

And where I live, which is a good size City, T-Mobile actually ranks higher than everyone else in call quality, fewest dropped calls etc. I couldn't even go into the nearby grocery store with Sprint or Verizon and get service and my T-Mobile works perfect.

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Yeah you are right, nobody cares about high-speed mobile. That is why all the other companies even Alltel with half as many customers as Tmo is investing million apon millions to launch it. Moron. The future with wireless is data revenues, voice will just happen to be there. The other companies have figured out in order to increase ARPU (again see glossary cuz I am sure you have no clue) they must increase data dollars. Your phone 10 years from now will do things we cannot even imagine today. Did you think you would be able to watch TV on your phone in 1997? Again, dont respond if you dont have a clue.

I didn't say that noone cared about data, what I said was it was T-mobiles focus to get their Voice Network and Customer Care down first then worry about how fast their data speeds are and how cool it is to watch TV on a 2 inch screen. Unlike you, most people have jobs and don't have the luxury to sit around and watch 24 on their phone while downloading music.

Again if you knew how to read, you would also have read that I said Sprint has a good product.Now for the ARPU, a lot of Sprint's ARPU has to do with the fact that Nextel subscribers have been historically the highest spenders in wireless and if you notice the more IDEN customers that leave, the lower the ARPU gets.Also, T-Mobile is not just sitting around doing nothing with 3G/4G, ...
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I have NEVER said that Sprint does not have its challenges right now. They certainly do, but this will change either under the Sprint name or possibly some other. It will not happen over night, but in the next year to three you are going to see some huge changes and the boat will turn around. By the way I do have a job and it is and has been in the wireless industry for over ten years, not working at the burger joint like yourself. I dont tell you how to make a burger, so dont tell me about my industry when you are not in it. Also, I was giving an example to what you can do and will be able to do in the future with data. Its way beyond tv. DING! fries are done, good thing Tmo focuses on cheap prices.

PS-If you knew ANYTHING about investing, you would know that this is a great time to buy Sprint stock, but I am sure you listen to somebody elses opinions about where to invest, and they no doubt have never been in the wireless industry either. Probably dont know anything about technology at all like yourself. Its easy to look at a chart and talk big. Again, I know nothing about your restraunt industry so I keep my mouth shut. Sprint owns a TON of spectrum that is worth millions and milions and carriers would kill for this. Mark my words, Spint stock will be triple to four times its value within three years. It may go down and fluctuate for awhile but it will end up there. Buy low sell high finance 101. If you still are on here I wi...
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gibson714 said:
how cool it is to watch TV on a 2 inch screen.

for my kids, and about 20 other families we metdown there, during our trip from Michigan to Disney, cartoon network and nick on 2 inch screens were gifts from God!!

Also, T-Mobile is not just sitting around doing nothing with 3G/4G, they have their game plan to catch up to the other carriers, you act like this technology is some big secret and being first to launch it means you will be the best, thats not how it works all the time.

If they do indeed have one, we'd love to hear how they are going to make up 5 years difference, and the first one to launch a product is also the one that has the most experience with it...
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Finally somebody with some actual knowledge and who has grown out of puberty. I think Gibson went to go get some Clearasil 😁 Thank you for the post!!

yeah, unfortunately being married with three kids before you turn 30 will get you to grow up a bit

Couple mistakes I want to point out,

1. I do not work in the food industry. I actually work in Wireless, I am an Area Sales Manager for AT&T(One of the other companines along with T-Mobile that destroyed Sprint last quarter.) I also was an Area Manager for Sprint too up until about a year ago.Almost 5 years of time I put in with them. Now you do have more experience than me, I have been in Wireless 6 years, 10 years ago I was a Junior in high school. Also it shows your level of maturity and respect for people when you bash another industry and the people that work in it. Real Classy.

2. I actually own stock in Sprint so I do not enjoy seeing them fail. I also know how to read an earnings sheet and despite what you argue, it is obvious...
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If you are an Area Sales Manager (and I don't think you really are) you should be fired for your lack of knowledge about the industry. If you were an Area, (and your not) you would have a data goal per unit, and you would praise things such as mobile TV and other applications, not slam them and say they are unimportant. If your boss only heard that, I guarantee you would be shown the door. Furthermore, if you do agree that data is going to be more important as time rolls on, how do you think Tmo is going to compete? They are way behind in this category, and they will never be able to gain back the five plus years they have already lost. They will always be one to two technology leaps behind. Always.

Wow, you really are dense. DATA IS IMPORTANT, just not as important as Customer Service, Cost and Reliability. Without those it does not matter how fast your data speeds are or how many channels you can watch from your phone.That was my whole point. Sprint will not get itself out of its problems with Wimax alone. If Sprint does not repair its reputation for terrible customer service and reliability they will cease to exist.

Now for Data Goal per unit, yes I know what that is and my market does really well in that category because we sell it to people who need it and for people it will benefit but the biggest contributor to Data revenue is Text Messaging, it is not Mobile TV.

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I am dense? I said many times that Sprint has problems. That is not a news flash to anyone. However I am most interested in the future. The past is over, whats done is done. My whole point is Tmobile has no FUTURE. They more than likely will get gobbled up like Cell One or Rcc (Unicel)because the simply cannot compete going forward. That is why those companies sold out to ATT and Verizon. They could jump onto LTE and they might even say that they will, but they wont. They have and always will be a third rate company when it comes to anything. Up until about three and a half years ago when they introduced the 850 roaming areas, they had the worst coverage footprint by far as all they had was their small native footprint and a couple...
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PowerUpBeeatch said:
I am dense? I said many times that Sprint has problems. That is not a news flash to anyone. However I am most interested in the future. The past is over, whats done is done. My whole point is Tmobile has no FUTURE. They more than likely will get gobbled up like Cell One or Rcc (Unicel)because the simply cannot compete going forward. That is why those companies sold out to ATT and Verizon. They could jump onto LTE and they might even say that they will, but they wont. They have and always will be a third rate company when it comes to anything. Up until about three and a half years ago when they introduced the 850 roaming areas, they had the worst coverage footprint by far as all they had was

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As an innocent bystander reading this post, I definitely have to say the more intelligent responses came from Gibson. Powerup, you really need to take a valium man, why so hostile? Sorry you work for Sprint, because basically your company is a sinking ship. Hopefully for your own sake, you jump from that ship before you drown in a sea of yellow piss colored liquid. 😉

Oh and TMOBILE ROCKS...we might own you soon, so power up and stick together.

You've already made a fool of yourself here Gibson. Crawl back under the rock in the tmobile forum you crawled out of. Why are you trolling the Sprint forum again? You obviously lack much knowledge about cellular networks.... you said data service plans arent booming...Lol. Good luck to tmobile launching 3g when others are launching 4g. I also laugh at your notion it will be "easy" for Tmobile to roll into LTE. Lets be realistic, Tmobile is just launching 3g when verizon and alltell have used it for years. Nothing is easy in wirelss and I highly doubt the other carriers will just be happy to share their knowledge to a competitor... Tmobile has a long and tough road to 4g ahead of them, they prolly wont launch 4g for at least 4 years.

What data do you have that shows Data plans are booming? What reports have you seen to show that every customer that signs up gets a powervision plan and keeps it for the entire length of their contract?

Now for the 4G comment, you act like it is some underground secret.Noone needs to share their knowledge to T-mobile in order for them to get 4G services.It shows your lack of the Wireless Industry to not know that T-Mobile is not a US company, it is division of Deutsche Telekom who has already been doing 3G and will be going to LTE also. So I guess T-Mobile Parent company won't share their secrets either?

I'm done with you, it is obvious you are a Sprint Lover and like most people who blindly follow a Cell carrier, fail to recognize w...
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And if it were booming like you stated, why do the carriers have to offer a free month service just to get people to sign up or make them have a data plan in order to get the phone at full discount?

Like I stated, I use Data and I love it as I'm sure you do too and many others. My whole point is that is hasn't caught on to the masses YET, will it eventually, maybe, but not right now.

Just because your family grazes goats in the Catskills barefoot and hasnt heard of an aircard doesnt mean it hasnt caught on, and booming! ALL carrier's data services are booming, just because you sell more phones than aircards in your one little retail store isnt a good judge of the market. Most aircard users are corporate/business users, so sorry their main avenue of activation isnt going to be a retail store....

Oh and the reason carriers give a free month of data service on a PHONE is simple marketing... I know it may be alot for you to comprehend BUT alot of customers wouldnt have a data plan added on because they really do not understand it. So carriers give them a free month so they can play around with it, hopefully love it, t...
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gibson714 said:
What data do you have that shows Data plans are booming? What reports have you seen to show that every customer that signs up gets a powervision plan and keeps it for the entire length of their contract?

Now for the 4G comment, you act like it is some underground secret.Noone needs to share their knowledge to T-mobile in order for them to get 4G services.It shows your lack of the Wireless Industry to not know that T-Mobile is not a US company, it is division of Deutsche Telekom who has already been doing 3G and will be going to LTE also. So I guess T-Mobile Parent company won't share their secrets either?

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Your comprehension of the English language can use some work. This WHOLE TIME I have been talking about CONSUMER data and CONSUMER accounts. I have been saying that the Data Products the carriers are offering have not caught on with the average consumer. I have also said business,corporate, and governments are the ones who are using these products right now.

Now for Sprint sharing Wimax with its competitors, their competitors are not going to use Wimax. ATT,Verizon,Alltel and I assume T-mobile will all be going with a competing technology,LTE.

I will also say this for the last time, I LIKE Sprint, I think they have a good product. I enjoyed watching the NFL Draft while I was out fishing, I enjoyed being able to use my laptop without go...
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I too own stock with Sprint and I hope they do well. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say I hope Sprint dies and that they have a terrible product. All I was saying was that Sprint is investing all its time and resources into high data speeds instead of trying to create some sort of stable ground to stand on.

Now, I will try to spell this out as easy as possible, I DO think data is important and I DO think it will be important. My whole point is it is not AS important as Customer Service,Reliability of product and Cost.

The Number One rule of any business is too make customers happy. If you cannot do that it does not matter how great your product or services are, you will fail. Now it seems to me that the CEO of the company understand...
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You just make yourself look even less educated on the matter when you say Sprint is investing all its money into data and not customer service. ANY employee will tell you the number one thing Sprint is trying to fix is customer service. Thats all our executives talk about. Sprint is making huge changes to how call centers operate. Something big is coming, and when it goes public you will know that I knew what I was talking about.

"The Number One rule of any business is too make customers happy. If you cannot do that it does not matter how great your product or services are, you will fail. Now it seems to me that the CEO of the company understands that and is trying to make drastics changes"

Reading is fundamental, try it sometime. I already said that the New CEO realizes that customer service is more important and trying to make drastic changes.

Who is the one that seems less educated?

Is there an echo, echo, echo? You are just reinstating what I have already said! I said Sprint is focusing more attention to fixing customer service over any other issue.... I said the number one thing to Sprint as a whole is refocusing our customer care centers... Then you bust back in saying DA NUMBA ONE RUE IS TO MAKE COSTERMERS HAPPY! -gibson714 Good Corky, GOOD~!

Then you respond Blah Blah Blah, customer service is number 1!!! Hmmm, good point, besides that is what I already stated!

GED not working out to great for you is it? 😢

Xfort said:
Is there an echo, echo, echo? You are just reinstating what I have already said! I said Sprint is focusing more attention to fixing customer service over any other issue.... I said the number one thing to Sprint as a whole is refocusing our customer care centers... Then you bust back in saying DA NUMBA ONE RUE IS TO MAKE COSTERMERS HAPPY! -gibson714 Good Corky, GOOD~!

Then you respond Blah Blah Blah, customer service is number 1!!! Hmmm, good point, besides that is what I already stated!

GED not working out to great for you is it? 😢

The main problem is that he doesn't understand this whole thread should never have been created in the first place, and we're just giving ol' Ce...
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Usually people who throw out insults do so because they are not intelligent enough to come up with a rational arguement or a informed opinion.

Keep it up though, I have always found Keyboard Warriors to be quite hysterical and at the same time, pretty pathetic.

GED?? Don't give me that much credit, I didn't even make it out of Junior High.

So far, I am retarded,have a GED and work at Mcdonalds. With that background, I don't know how I have been able to buy a house,have a family,have nice cars and a few other nice things. Just imagine if I put a little more effort into getting a high school diploma and left mcdonalds, I would be doing even better.


And just because I like you so much, I will do your autoresponse.

"Good one Cor...
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Ok, OK, sorry.