at&t defeats Verizon Wireless 4Q2006
The trolls will have many points (some of which valid) to argue. But the numbers are in, and they don't lie.
2.4 million to 2.3 million.
Including all elements, be it pre-paid for Cingular as a strength and Verizon's historic churn rates, the final number says Cingular ADDED MORE CUSTOMERS THEN VERIZON OVER A 3 MONTH PERIOD
....raising it higher.
2.4 million to 2.3 million.
Including all elements, be it pre-paid for Cingular as a strength and Verizon's historic churn rates, the final number says Cingular ADDED MORE CUSTOMERS THEN VERIZON OVER A 3 MONTH PERIOD
....raising it higher.
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Should be changed from raising it higher to relying on more outside sources.
For the year Cingular added 6.8 million while VZW added 7.8 million. 😳
The fouth quarter numbers were fueled by resellers, they acconted for 1/3 of the total for the quarter. Cingy added a pale 850k postpaid retail while VZW added 2.1 million.
Would you want your company relying on other companies to make your numbers or a company that is posting the results almost soley on it's own? Would you rather have 2.1 million postpaid that signed a contract to stay with you for at least 12-24 months or only 850k, can you say Churn??? Would you rather have 750k prepaid that could decide to leave at anytime or would Cingy have been better off with focusing on postpaid ...
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For the year Cingular added 6.8 million while VZW added 7.8 million. 😳
The fouth quarter numbers were fueled by resellers, they acconted for 1/3 of the total for the quarter. Cingy added a pale 850k postpaid retail while VZW added 2.1 million.
Would you want your company relying on other companies to make your numbers or a company that is posting the results almost soley on it's own? Would you rather have 2.1 million postpaid that signed a contract to stay with you for at least 12-24 months or only 850k, can you say Churn??? Would you rather have 750k prepaid that could decide to leave at anytime or would Cingy have been better off with focusing on postpaid ...
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Hi BigDaddyTROLL.
your numbers are cute and your dedication to your carrier is admirable. but let me ask you as simply as i can since you are a long winded type of guy.
if a football team controlls the entire game. satistically, emotionally, momentum and all, but the final score isn't in their favor is that a win?
no one cares about re-sellers or postpaid v. pre. those are excuses. if i wanted to make excuses, i'd point out how cingular pulverizes verizon in net adds almost every single quarter for over a year before churn.
2.4 > 2.3
61 mil > 59 mil
iphone > anything you got or have coming
raising it higher
your numbers are cute and your dedication to your carrier is admirable. but let me ask you as simply as i can since you are a long winded type of guy.
if a football team controlls the entire game. satistically, emotionally, momentum and all, but the final score isn't in their favor is that a win?
no one cares about re-sellers or postpaid v. pre. those are excuses. if i wanted to make excuses, i'd point out how cingular pulverizes verizon in net adds almost every single quarter for over a year before churn.
2.4 > 2.3
61 mil > 59 mil
iphone > anything you got or have coming
raising it higher
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hitman???? do you have a clue? net adds are after churn and where is the profit in loosing postpaid customers only to spend a fortune replacing them? You have no business sense whatsoever, it costs more to add new customers and less to keep what you got. does that make sense or too much info for you to process? As far as the football analogy you won the game but the season goes to VZW, it takes more than a quarter to win the year. go play with your red rider bb gun and take some marks.
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Since you like to tell people where and what to go play with, here is one for you...why dont YOU go play in the Verizon forum with your CDMA phones....??
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people are easier targets in this forum, in other words more clueless people to set straight
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You call people clueless? You're just jealous because you want Cingular and your mom wont let you have it.
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symbian, however linux is catching them. I look at linux as the VZW of the OS world.
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Catching them huh. Kinda like Verizon is catching Cingular I guess. Having said that, how many Symbian phones does VZW have in their lineup??
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Correct, by 2010 Saybian will play second fiddle to Linux as will the new at&t. VZW has none I think but I'm not sure and my mom is not here to answer for me. Nokia and FOMA are major users of Symbian OS and neither can make a CDMA phone to save their lives. I heard NOKIA is Swedish for crap, is that true?????
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Nokia is Swedish for the worlds largest handset manufacturer. bigdaddyjay is English for dumbfuk. End of discussion
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You are starting to sound like anxiovert. You and Ruff are the only ones in here with a clue, don't do this to yourself. Stop getting crabby that I answered your questions as well. Nokia is the largest because Euro Trash and the Chinese love them, they are all afraid of flip phones. 😳
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🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 hahahah that is funny ... but kinda true .. i will never touch a nokia or most motorola phone
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bigdaddyjay said:
Correct, by 2010 Saybian will play second fiddle to Linux as will the new at&t. VZW has none I think but I'm not sure and my mom is not here to answer for me. Nokia and FOMA are major users of Symbian OS and neither can make a CDMA phone to save their lives. I heard NOKIA is Swedish for crap, is that true?????
FOMA is WCDMA correct? Why would they make a CMDA handset? Samsung is starting to put out Symbian phones.. and LG.. And why would VZW release a symbian phone if they are just going to lock down the UI/apps anyways? Seems pointless.. Furthermore why would Nokia invest so much into CDMA when it's 10% of the global market? Oh.. because they are altruistic? Doubtful.. Nokia is li...
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Wow, Bigdaddy is right your business acumen is leveled somewhere around the 7-11 clerks. Cingular lost to Verizon as usual, nobody takes into consideration tracfone adds. Look at rcrnews today, Cingular was PUMMELED by Verizon, less than a million of those adds were high value post paid customers whereas 2.1 million of Verizon customers were postpaid high value customers.
Cingular customers as always drink orange kool-aid like its free beer. You guys are absolutely oblivious to the notion that Cingular is going to get passed by Verizon sometime this year and I am going to laugh at every Cingular fanboy I meet who pledged that Verizon would never overtake Cingular and I'll watch as the ultimate fanboy himself Stan resigns in embarassment ...
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Cingular customers as always drink orange kool-aid like its free beer. You guys are absolutely oblivious to the notion that Cingular is going to get passed by Verizon sometime this year and I am going to laugh at every Cingular fanboy I meet who pledged that Verizon would never overtake Cingular and I'll watch as the ultimate fanboy himself Stan resigns in embarassment ...
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You're quite wrong in saying that Cingular beats Verizon in net adds every quarter . I think you need to do some research as to how the last eight quarters have gone before you make those claims.
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bigdaddyjay said:
Should be changed from raising it higher to relying on more outside sources.
For the year Cingular added 6.8 million while VZW added 7.8 million.
So why did 5.5M customers drop VZW vs. 4.4M for Cingy? 🤭
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please tell me you are not as dumb as your post shows! Cingular lost more customers, this can be seen when you account for Cingular having a higher churn rate. Cingular had more gross adds but 1 million less net additions for the year.
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Hey dipsh!t. You posted the numbers. If VZW had 7.8M adds and 2.3 net adds, that means they lost 5.5M last quarter. You know why? I'll give you an hint: its the network. IT SUCKS!
Signed,
a very happy ex-VZW customer
Signed,
a very happy ex-VZW customer
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you are a piece of work Wonk. If you had proficient reading skills you would realise the 7.8 was a yearly net add total which was a million more than cingy. Do you understand now wanker????
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gotta love when people stop posting after they have been served 🤣 ......well said bigdaddy 😁
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Wow, this is suprising to me a bit - but of course I live in Wisconsin where Cingular's coverage is good for sh*t. 😉
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Verizon Wireless pummels Cingular with 2.1M postpaid adds in Q4
Verizon Wireless announced it captured 2.3 million net new customers in the fourth quarter, numbers that show it continues to dominate other national carriers with its retail performance.
Cingular Wireless L.L.C. brought in more net customers, with 2.4 million customer additions during the fourth quarter, however, fewer than 1 million of Cingular’s customers were high-value postpaid retail customers. Meanwhile, Verizon Wireless said it gained 2.1 million postpaid customers through its own channels in the fourth quarter. The carrier increased its customer base by 15 percent year-over-year to 59.1 million.
Although Cingular is still the largest U.S. carrier by customer ba...
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Verizon Wireless announced it captured 2.3 million net new customers in the fourth quarter, numbers that show it continues to dominate other national carriers with its retail performance.
Cingular Wireless L.L.C. brought in more net customers, with 2.4 million customer additions during the fourth quarter, however, fewer than 1 million of Cingular’s customers were high-value postpaid retail customers. Meanwhile, Verizon Wireless said it gained 2.1 million postpaid customers through its own channels in the fourth quarter. The carrier increased its customer base by 15 percent year-over-year to 59.1 million.
Although Cingular is still the largest U.S. carrier by customer ba...
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Lets see what the Cingular fanboys have to say to this article from arguably one of the most reputable wireless reporting services. Drink the kool-aid boys, drink it all the way to second place.
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Hey Ari Gold, if you would pay attention to Entourage, you would know Ari uses GSM and iDEN phones. No red communist VZW sh*t.
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CINGULAR HAD A GREAT QUARTER.
but if you take any smart businessman/woman/exec and put two unmarked reports in front of them. VZW and Cingulars quarter reports. and ask the exec which would you want for your companys results. 100% of them would pick VZW's results.
Cingular did good, Verizon Wireless did better
but if you take any smart businessman/woman/exec and put two unmarked reports in front of them. VZW and Cingulars quarter reports. and ask the exec which would you want for your companys results. 100% of them would pick VZW's results.
Cingular did good, Verizon Wireless did better
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Finally someone of common sense on the Cinglar board. It pains me to see that some people will deface every carrier no matter what the "facts" say. Yet the facts speak for themselves, on paper Verizon does better and will eventually overtake Cingular and then I will watch as Stan resigns in shame.
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All of the hysterical chatter over prepaid customers being death to profitibility and churn inspite of all the evidence to the contrary, about the iphone lacking broadband (I guess Wimax doesn't count), comparing Cingular to Sprint and bending over so far backwards to dismiss anything that does not directly glorify the big red checkmark reeks of hypocracy to me.
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im pretty sure i said that cingular had a great quarter. im not trashing cingular in any way.
Im merely stating the VZW had a better quarter. my little example about any exec with the two sheets of paper showing unbranded results choosing verizon wireless's 100% of the time is correct and should end this arguement.
Im merely stating the VZW had a better quarter. my little example about any exec with the two sheets of paper showing unbranded results choosing verizon wireless's 100% of the time is correct and should end this arguement.
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Perhaps another way to look at it, for those of you that are in sales.
Would you rather A) Sell 100 phones and make $900 or B) sell 90 phones and make $1000.
The ultimate goal in business, or for any of us that make a living in sales is to make the most money, not to sell the most units.
Would you rather A) Sell 100 phones and make $900 or B) sell 90 phones and make $1000.
The ultimate goal in business, or for any of us that make a living in sales is to make the most money, not to sell the most units.
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Correct, and Cingular is majorly closing the gap (and quickly) on revenues and profit. Pretty soon Verizon isn't even going to be able to claim number one in either category anymore.
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