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Who buys Samsung phones?

bluecoyote

Jun 17, 2011, 10:25 AM
Samsung phones are almost unanimously terrible- they tend to quit after about getting 80% of the design right. From back in the days of feature phones that lacked proper T9 implementation to the Google-advised-against-this Galaxy Tab.
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jameskpolk

Jun 17, 2011, 10:51 AM
"quit after getting 80% of the design right"

That's the quote of the day, sir.

Kudos.
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iDont Care

Jun 17, 2011, 11:04 AM
bluecoyote said:
Samsung phones are almost unanimously terrible- they tend to quit after about getting 80% of the design right. From back in the days of feature phones that lacked proper T9 implementation to the Google-advised-against-this Galaxy Tab.



So true. I always hated SamSUCK. They always fall short on something. These days they just make pretty screens. Other than that, it's the typical cheap plastic build quality as usual, etc. TouchWiz is horrible. If I wanted iOS, I'd buy an iPhone. They need to stop copying Apple and be more innovative.
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gshock

Jun 17, 2011, 11:37 AM
Really? All of your opinions are very funny! How can anyone deny Samsung is the number one selling OEM in the U.S. and soon to be the global leader. BTW best quality device in the market.

It is true some devices tend to be "identical" in appearance. Apple and others should be flattered at the resemblance.

Like Samsung or not, great products and innovation in technology. There are other great manufacturers out there as well.

I love the fact Samsung Electronics largest customer is Apple. Apple uses Samsung's components in their phones, iTouch(s) and computers.
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MileHigh8710

Jun 17, 2011, 12:22 PM
I think it would be interesting to do a survey like the Land Rover commercial. Research how many Iphones are still in use (by percentage of course) versus Samsung. That way you can get a sense of durability.

I also think that Samsung and many other carriers tend to build cheap quality phones, knowing that the "Majority" of people will upgrade their phone in 2 years. Which is not really a bad strategy, because why spend all this money on making a phone last 5 to 8 years when people are going to throw it away before 2?

iPhones, that I see are very durable and made from quality material, but where does that really put them?

Like I said most people only want/need for their phone to last close to 2 years and they are on to the next anyw...
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Vmac39

Jun 17, 2011, 12:55 PM
For the most part, I agree with you. I have a Samsung Focus, although it is quite a nice looking phone, I wanted to find a quality case for it. With that said, that could be the main reason for only using better quality plastics or glass. Its more expensive and most of us will put a case on it anyway. So, in the end, does it really matter? Unless you're a serious outdoors person, who goes spelunking in some cave or likes being in and around water a lot, i don't really se it being an issue. There's usually some case that handles every thing else.
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crammy1

Jun 17, 2011, 6:52 PM
it actually works well for apple, they make their phone seem stury and last longer and that adds to the value of the phone, thats why you still see people holding iphone 2Gs...also apple makes it so that people would buy the next iproduct even if their current one is still working fine, how do you think they get those kinds of lines during release dates?
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benhxcjammin

Jun 17, 2011, 12:23 PM
all i have to say is that if apple tried to make an Android phone, any samsung would blow it away. apple would try to make their own overlay that would probably be corny and plain like iOS. Samsung phones are awesome. the fact that their plastics have a 'cheap' feel, is because they use 40% recycled plastic, which, in this day in time is probably the smartest economical move made by any cell phone company. apple is just stuck up and too proud of a phone that 'started it all,' which i for one hate being restricted as to what my phone can do. I think samsungs touchwiz is awesome, especially since they now got rid of freakin Bing. so to answer your question, I buy Samsung phones.
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MileHigh8710

Jun 17, 2011, 12:27 PM
I have nothing against samsung, because they make a alright phone for the buck the consumer spends.

But I just want to ask, what do people mean by restricted on the iPhone? What is it that you can not do on your iPhone that you can do other phones? Other than flash and customize your background (which I think is a little corny but thats probably cuz I'm a guy)

I don't have an iPhone, I have a LG Rumor 2 lol but I do have an iPod touch and it literally does everything I need it to do, and it has for years! Very durable and I love the battery life btw.
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benhxcjammin

Jun 17, 2011, 12:29 PM
how about facetime, restricted to wifi. mobile hotspot, MUST pay your carrier to use, whereas with most android phones and ALL galaxy s phones can be rooted and have free wireless tethering. yaaaaaay.
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MileHigh8710

Jun 17, 2011, 2:57 PM
The tethering thing, i feel you on that, but to be honest, I have a wireless card for my laptop and use wifi.

Video chat is whack to me anyways, its just a extra gimmick cell makers throw in their just to say their phone has it, to help with sales. Technology is not their yet to have good quality at the cheap price they cell phone makers are willing to spend on dual camera's to put into cell phones while keeping the price low, so to me its just not really something I would use. I have a chat camera on my laptop and I swear I've only used it like twice, cuz my girlfriend made me, meh.

I see that most of the complaints (I don't mean this in any negative manner, but just being truthful) are the people who love to cut corners and get freeb...
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acdc1a

Jun 17, 2011, 12:41 PM
Flash and customized background are two very important points. Take the apps as well where Apple has their paws on every single app. Let's add to the fact that battery life is marginal and you can't have a spare (or even replacement) and I can't think of an educated consumer who would still choose an Apple product.

Don't think I'm Apple hating here...i-Phone brought us to where we are...the thing is the market is past i-Phone now and this is just...sour apples.
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benhxcjammin

Jun 17, 2011, 12:56 PM
thank you for not being a robot and just loving an iphone for the simple fact theres a picture of bitten apple on it.

as a verizon rep, the only people who i sell iphones to are ones that don't want to hear why android is better and just want the iphone to say they have one and look cool. i think android is a smarter choice, and apple needs to quit being babies and get on the android wagon.
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MileHigh8710

Jun 17, 2011, 3:11 PM
So apple should just say, "oh well we are the number one profitable company in the world, but lets just stop, flop, and jump on googles android because they have a larger market share?"

That doesnt make any sense. You're really starting to sound subjective on the two choices.

Its going to come down to personal choice. You can not say one is better than the other for other people, and as a sales rep that is messed up. Ppl come to you, and you should say first thing first, tell me what it is you want in a phone, then recommend a phone to their likings, not your own subjective likings because you hate apple, or vice versa for the apple fan boys. That is nonsense.

A customer say they don't care about customization, they just want a prod...
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benhxcjammin

Jun 17, 2011, 4:02 PM
from experience, i know that people like to get what they pay for. also people love free! now if i were one of those psychopath salesman, i would shove whatever i make the most money off of into someones hands and swear up and down it is the best. i cannot honestly sell someone an iphone who is on a budget and wants to get as much as they can for free, like any LOGICAL person these days. if you are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for apps and music, which would otherwise be free, go for it.

this discussion, anyways, is about how apple is suing samsung. now if i were to create an internet browser, and it became used nationwide or even globally, and lets say i decided to put the exit, minimize, and maximize buttons on the top left corne...
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MileHigh8710

Jun 17, 2011, 2:47 PM
Well for me wallpaper is pointless. I never change my wall paper and I love the all black setting.

Saying that apple has their paws on every app, doesn't really tell me or anyone how or why that is bad? Them having tight control over their store still says nothing about how you feel about the quality of the apps and the fact they have the most apps. So who cares how "They" treat the "Developers"? as long as the consumers are getting the quality product. So that is a good reason as a app developer to dislike apple but not a reasonable excuse for a consumer, so I can't accept that one.

The battery life is super good for a smart phone. And these days you have those wireless charging case things if its that bad of an issue, but I do see y...
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acdc1a

Jun 17, 2011, 4:42 PM
Nobody likes a fanboy. I think this discussion until now has been pretty unbiased.
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benhxcjammin

Jun 17, 2011, 12:27 PM
another point! apple's amazing 'retina' display, is actually samsung technology! woot woot!
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SellPhones82

Jun 17, 2011, 2:22 PM
Well 70 million people bought a Samsung phone in Q1 of 2011 and they made $9.7 billion during that time frame. The Galaxy S also outsold the iphone in Japan during Q1...another sign that the Japanese are smarter than Americans 🤣 Not to mention every iphone 4 and ipad has an A4 processor in it made by none other than Samsung and the ipad 2 has the Samsung A5! I'm sure there are no quality issues with those since they are in a iphone... 🙄 Making a phone pretty is only a small part..its the inside that really makes a phone what it is!
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bluecoyote

Jun 17, 2011, 11:35 PM
Samsung components are fine, but Samsung products are just crappy efforts all around.

Seriously, pick up an iPhone and pick up Samsung's finest hardware and tell me the materials or workmanship is even comparable. It's not.

Next tell me one advance Samsung has ever made to the software on phones. All they've managed to do is make Android worse.

Third, Sprint's return rate on the Epic 4G is between 25 and 40%.
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SellPhones82

Jun 18, 2011, 9:57 AM
Software wise Samsung has done nothing...I personally hate TouchWiz (it is an iphone knock-off)and other than Bada (or whatever it's called)those are the only mobile software's I can think of that they developed...but they are not a software company so it should be expected. They specialize in hardware and do a damn good job there. I want to see what they are able to do with the flexible AMOLED displays that should be ready Q2 of 2012.
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phatmanxxl

Jun 17, 2011, 6:58 PM
You think phone scoops biggest apple fanboy would know that its Samsungs hardware thats under that apple logo. 🤣
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bluecoyote

Jun 17, 2011, 11:37 PM
I'm sorry, did I ever indicate that it wasn't? I know it's Samsung's components. In fact, can you find a single post where I denied Apple used Samsung components, or was blissfully ignorant?

Just because Rovers used Honda engines doesn't mean they were as nice as Hondas.
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hepresearch

Jun 18, 2011, 1:49 PM
bluecoyote said:
I'm sorry, did I ever indicate that it wasn't? I know it's Samsung's components. In fact, can you find a single post where I denied Apple used Samsung components, or was blissfully ignorant?

Just because Rovers used Honda engines doesn't mean they were as nice as Hondas.


Wait a minute... if we make the verbs in your sentence present-tense and use your metaphor; engines = components, iPhone = Rover, and Samsung = Honda... then your sentence becomes, "Just because iPhones use Samsung components doesn't mean they are as nice as Samsungs."

Hahaha! HAH!!! 😁
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ImThatGuy

Jun 19, 2011, 4:40 PM
hepresearch said:


Wait a minute... if we make the verbs in your sentence present-tense and use your metaphor; engines = components, iPhone = Rover, and Samsung = Honda... then your sentence becomes, "Just because iPhones use Samsung components doesn't mean they are as nice as Samsungs."

Hahaha! HAH!!! 😁


You sir are the freaking man!!
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