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Wow

ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 5:41 PM
"spite of Apple's recently-filed lawsuit alleging that Samsung's mobile division has copied the hardware and software design of the iPhone and iPad"

It's like "hey I just filed a lawsuit against you and you must pay me just a couple of million dollars, but don't worry, our friendship will still be the same". πŸ˜•
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phatmanxxl

Apr 20, 2011, 6:06 PM
Yep another slew of lolsuits from apple. πŸ™„ Companies wont want to do business with apple, this is bad business practice.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:08 PM
Sorry Samsung we are screwing you in the Ass But can we have a few million dollars and be friends. Reminds me of my roommate situation 🀣
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Troll-Bait

Apr 20, 2011, 6:10 PM
I want to point out that you just said you and your roomate had anal intercourse... but I won't... lol.

messing with you man, but if you read it the right way!!!!
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:28 PM
You never know I might be scarred for Life!!!! 😲 JKJK
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:37 PM
I see your new to Phone Scoop. Welcome! It's great site & community.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:38 PM
Thanks man Lovin it so far 😎
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:43 PM
Yeah, there's quite a few wireless related sites on the web, but none with a community quite like this one.

So how did you find out about the site? I found out about it from a Best Buy employee way, way back.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:44 PM
I work for Tmobile at a Company so we use it to look up phones
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:45 PM
Yeah, I saw that in your profile entry. And that you use a G2. IMO one of the best Android smartphones on the market. I use the LG Ally.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:48 PM
Yea they both are about the same my friend Had an Ally and its a great phone as well
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:52 PM
Really my only major complaint is I keep getting "Low memory" warnings. This thing has way, way too little memory! I cleared the memory from the web browser cause it was taking up a whopping 35mb's, doing so caused me to lose my bookmarks.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:54 PM
Bummer get a sd card or a G2 😎
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ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 6:59 PM
did you get that from t-mo for free?
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:00 PM
The g2???
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ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 7:01 PM
yes sir
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:09 PM
I got it free with a $200 MIR but the Vibrant was free and I only pay $40 for both lines for working at tmobile with 2000 minutes per line and unlimited text and web
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ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 7:17 PM
awesome... I hope I can have the same haha
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:28 PM
If I got it now it would be 199.99 but totally get it and if you can get the dealer plan its only $20 a month and even though the G2 seems expensive get it!!! or the G2x or the Galaxy S 4G
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ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 7:39 PM
hmmm the reason why I ask is just like you im an outbound telesales rep. Just wondrin what are the things you can get if you are an employee of a certain company (specially network providers) as an incentive? (im not from the us 😁 )
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:41 PM
It depends on how good you do but incentives are amazing here where I work
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ExtremeLotus

Apr 20, 2011, 7:44 PM
Im from sprint haha... 😁 and i cant use sprint phones on my country... But T-Mo phones... ABSOLUTELY
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 8:01 PM
Hell yea I love Tmo 😁
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 7:08 PM
I do, a 16gb one, problem is some apps can't be moved to the sd card.

MSNBC 2mb's
FOX NEWS 2mb's
FOX Business 6mb's
CNN 2mb's
Slacker 2mb's
TuneIn Radio 2mb's

Just a few examples of some apps that that are larger than 1mb that can't be moved to sd. Heck even if an app can be moved to the sd card ther is still data left that is stored on the internal memory.

One of my lines qualifies for an upgrade in November, hopefully I will be in the position to get a new smartphone by then.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:10 PM
Hell yea do it get the best phone you can 😁
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 7:18 PM
To me, the best phone means:

01. Dual-core prcessors
02. Nexgen screen technology such as Super AMOLED, LG's NOVA, or HTC's S-LCD.
03. No less than 2gb's of internal memory.
04. Ice Cream version of Android
05. OF COURSE a slideout keyboard.
06. And NO LESS than a 1700mah battery.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:43 PM
G2x 1500 Mah but dual core 5.4GBmemory no slide out keyboard but it does have swype whichg works out amazingly well
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 7:47 PM
Swype is very interesting. I haven't yet tried it though.

I start my shift @ top of the hr, and will be charging my phone because my battery is in the red.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 8:01 PM
get that phone it has great battery swype is simple and easy or get the galaxy s 4G
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:11 PM
Also all of our phones have been tested to work for up to 32Gb
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Troll-Bait

Apr 20, 2011, 6:09 PM
Except that Samsung is making BILLIONS off of selling Apple it's components.

What's wrong with Apple demanding that no one, including it's suppliers, copy it's patented work?

I mean, seriously.
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ygbhen

Apr 20, 2011, 6:33 PM
Totally agree with you. Neither company would be willing to part ways with this relationship because of how lucrative it is for both parties but more so for Samsung. Apple could definitely find another vendor to outsource for components but Samsung would definitely be hard pressed to find another buyer who buys in the volume that Apple does.
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diamondawg35

Apr 22, 2011, 9:27 AM
I don't think it would be that easy for Apple. Things like key components can be copyrighted (Example is the sidekick's swivel screen. Samsung could not use it on the new sidekick because of the copyright), and would hurt Apple just as bad. To stop business on either end would hurt both, however I do see Samsung raising the cost of Apples components that are copyrighted by them to pay for the cost of this lawsuit.
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:39 PM
Samsung isn't the only phone maker that has a chrome look on the side of one of their smartphones, doesn't RIM have a BB that has chrome around itßs side also?
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bluecoyote

Apr 20, 2011, 9:23 PM
It's a little more than just the chrome look.

But Apple is also stating Android is a knockoff of iOS. Which it pretty much is.
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Azeron

Apr 20, 2011, 6:45 PM
Apple didn't exactly invent the smartphone. They copied and improved on what came before. That's what's wrong. Hypocrites.
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Jayshmay

Apr 20, 2011, 6:49 PM
Murdering the keyboard, and making the battery inaccessible aren't things I would consider to be improvements πŸ‘Ώ
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 6:53 PM
Hell yea All it is is a APPLE Phone Period!!! 😈
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Sturmanator365

Apr 20, 2011, 7:13 PM
oh yea and there's Itunes whoo Hooo 🀣
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bluecoyote

Apr 20, 2011, 9:04 PM
Making it so you don't need to take out the battery to reset it because it randomly crashed (lookin' at you, WinMo) is.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 21, 2011, 12:00 PM
Android has thousands of free apps with lots of uses and great speeds. good enough for me 😎
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Sturmanator365

Apr 21, 2011, 12:06 PM
btw you cant always be right everyone has to be wrong sometime. No one's Perfect
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diamondawg35

Apr 22, 2011, 9:29 AM
Sounds like someone is a little bit upset with the slaughter or the external keyboard... LOL
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bluecoyote

Apr 20, 2011, 9:21 PM
They're not hypocrites, you're just need a more accurate word.

If Samsung "copied" Apple the way Apple apparently "copied" [Blackberry, WinMo, PalmOS, Symbian] , I highly doubt there would be a lawsuit.


And traditionally, "copied" implies the feature was already there, so you know, things like multitouch, a system-wide finger-based UI, a desktop grade browser with decent javascript and memory performance, visual voicemail, and a centralized signed application store that provided signed copies of apps that could be run natively that were unheard of prior to the iPhone isn't exactly the most accurate term for "copied."
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T Bone

Apr 20, 2011, 8:34 PM
Because the specific alleged 'patents' in question are asinine and never should have been granted. Basic design elements should not be allowed to be patented.
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bluecoyote

Apr 20, 2011, 9:33 PM
I understand you're not a programmer, but what you may view as "basic" or "obvious" may actually not be so.

Things we now take for granted on the iPhone, such as the 'physics' of the scrolling system took a lot of work for it to be intuitive and seamless. The system of engineering how to properly respond to a tap vs. swipe vs. accidental press isn't easy. If you need proof, Android still doesn't get much of it right, and Blackberry is even worse.

Simply put, if things such as keyboard heuristics were so 'basic' , Samsung could've patented them beforehand, OR could at least produce an example of someone else who did (they didn't and can't.) .

Same goes for logos and design. Sure the Pepsi logo may be just a circle with two warped ha...
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Azeron

Apr 20, 2011, 6:35 PM
Business people aren't going to *Bleep* over money carrying a grudge. Well...not smart ones anyway.
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T Bone

Apr 20, 2011, 8:39 PM
Apple has been on the warpath recently and they have to be careful, constantly stabbing your 'partners' in the back is not good for business in the long run....first came the inexplicable attacks on Adobe and Google, then lawsuits against HTC, Nokia and now Samsung.....it's like they are on a jihad to destroy every other company on the planet.

Burning bridges can be costly.
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bluecoyote

Apr 20, 2011, 9:13 PM
How did Apple stab anyone in the back in any of those examples you mentioned? And how are they "inexplicable" , because I don't seem to have a single problem explaining them.

Let's recap:

Flash - Performs terribly, has numerous security issues, support is inconsistent, performance is inconsistent, most uses are already served by native apps and HTML5, both of which run superbly and have none of the above problems. What part of that is "inexplicable?"

Google - Had their CEO commit espionage while acting on Apple's board. Had the Android team copy the design of iOS to graft it into their Android project. Don't believe me? Google "Android Prototype."
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T Bone

Apr 21, 2011, 8:04 AM
I said that the attack upon Adobe is explicable, and it is. Adobe is one of the main creators of Mac applications, without Adobe applications the Mac will likely have died as a platform years ago, and not only that, but Adobe is actually a former division of Apple, before it was spun off into its own company.

So Steve Jobs' vicious vendetta against Adobe and his apparent desire to see it go bankrupt and cease to exist makes absolutely no sense at all. Steve's just being a complete **** and that is all.
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bluecoyote

Apr 21, 2011, 1:15 PM
Apple isn't making any such attack on Adobe, they simply have expressed disapproval of Flash, and it's Adobe that made it political.

Of course, Adobe still can't get Flash performance up to par on Android or the Playbook, to say nothing of WM7 or WebOS

Apple openly stated they don't support Flash because Flash is insecure, performs poorly, and isn't necessary when native OS functions perform better. But I guess that doesn't matter because Apple and Adobe should be "friends" and Apple should crap-ify their product in the name of that friendship.


Get real.
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Sturmanator365

Apr 23, 2011, 12:02 PM
Samsung Apple Partners Now they sue them because of their build thats a stab in the back 😎
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Sturmanator365

Apr 23, 2011, 12:32 PM
I meant to say samsung and apple are partners and Apple now wants to sue them because the galaxy phones are somewhat built like the I-Phone. Thats a total Stab in the back IMO
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