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bluecoyote

Mar 8, 2010, 8:07 PM
If you own one of the two Android handsets that have Android 2.0 or above!

The rest of you can wait until you can't return your phone and then sometime in the future maybe you'll get that too. Give or take a few months. Not like you're going anywhere with that $350.00 ETF... 🤣
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Jayshmay

Mar 8, 2010, 9:33 PM
Android is getting ready for ME!!! I've been waiting for Android to mature more and it seems as though it's getting closer to that point. But ATT FCKs up Android devices too much, so I'll probably end up getting a N1 that has ATT 3G directly from Google.
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bluecoyote

Mar 8, 2010, 10:05 PM
AT&T just prohibits non-marketplace apps. Likely because they don't want to deal with any angry customers who suspended their warranty by installing 3rd party applications not approved by Google. And it's not like the backflip needed AT&T to make it a failure either.

It doesn't matter, within a month of buying your phone, another Android handset will come out running Android 2.2, with a 4 month window before you can upgrade. I've said it before and I'll say it again- they have no idea what they're doing and it shows.
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ECANTU

Mar 8, 2010, 10:29 PM
Will this be an OTA update? 😕
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Jayshmay

Mar 8, 2010, 11:17 PM
I think rthis is more so for the developers to be able to make better, richer 3D games. For the user it just requires that you have Android 2.0 and newer.
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Menno

Mar 9, 2010, 2:07 PM
no, it's already on the phone.. it's like Google opening more source code
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 7:45 PM
Hey Menno, when you have you have your Droid connected via usb and your using pdanet, can you charge the phone while tethering through usb? Cause tethering draings the battery way, way fast. I'm using my N95 to tether right now, but I have it plugged in.
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Jayshmay

Mar 8, 2010, 11:15 PM
I know, I read an article on Engadget about Android's fragmentation, I also read a lot of post about it. I just think it's growing pains right now.
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bluecoyote

Mar 9, 2010, 12:21 AM
Growing Pains is what the iPhone is experiencing. Fragmentation is an early sign of a platform's failure (read: WinMo.)

Platforms don't become "less fragmented" - only moreso. Google's only option is to cut the cord on a lot of these devices (leaving you holding the bill) or to keep whirling forward with a new handset du jour (leaving you with a handset that only got developer attention for 4 months.)
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 2:38 AM
Are you a developer?
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bluecoyote

Mar 9, 2010, 3:01 AM
I'm a developer for WebOS and used to be a developer for the iPhone.
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 4:47 AM
So is the pre & Pixi doing as bad as some say it is?
I think Palm will survive, they just need to make some adjustments, kinda like GM had to.
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trojandrew

Mar 9, 2010, 1:22 PM
Kind of like GM? Doubt the government is stepping in to save Palm any time soon 🙂. Yeah Palm is hurting. It needs 2 things in my opinion; hardware that propels it in to the Nexus 1 strata of specs, and non-fail advertising that exposes the power and functionality of the platform. WebOS is a gorgeous blend of continuity and user experience and "plenty" open development. But no one would know because they're being told it's for mom and creepy zen lady.
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bluecoyote

Mar 9, 2010, 11:00 PM
They're not doing awful, it's just that the Sprint launch was mediocre (between the Droid and N1) , and the Verizon launch was a total failure. They just aren't getting any love.

The problem is Android is stealing a lot of Palm's thunder because of marketing money. Palm's OS and hardware is unquestionably better, and unlike Android, Palm is actually bringing some pretty amazing stuff to the table development wise (there's simply far more potential with WebOS than Android.)
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 11:15 PM
I don't know enough about either Android or WebOS to say which is better, but hardware wise, Android has bigger screens, better keyboards than those tiny little round buttons on Palm's.
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Menno

Mar 10, 2010, 1:55 AM
Blue likes Webos because it's a lot closer to the iphone experience (which is nice, but not for everyone) Android can be intimidating for someone if they've never really messed with a computer before, but once you get used to how it works it's intuitive. It's just counter-intuitive to a lot of other "touch" OS's

Marketing is an issue, Blue is right there. But I don't think it's really just a question of money so much as it is focused. Palm is pushing WebOS as a sort of advanced Daytimer, with the actual "phone" bits being similar to "dumbphones."

Blackberry pushes business, messaging, and email.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvjoMHZK6TU »
Tag: "Connect to everything you love"

Iphone is all about the music and apps.
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Jayshmay

Mar 10, 2010, 5:46 AM
What the heck did you mean when you reffered to WebOS as a "Daytimer"? I don't get what you mean by that.
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Menno

Mar 10, 2010, 10:47 AM
Daytimer is a paper-scheduling company.. they were the "it" thing to have before PDA's, at least out here on the east coast. They were the size of small novels, but people kept everything in them (you could buy years with the days broken down by 15min all the way to hour segments)

The Ads that really show off what WebOS can do are showing off how you can sync all your calenders/contacts etc to one screen. So for me, it just looks like a Glorified Daytimer (or with modern times, a PDA)

Palm is marketing themselves as the "modern PDA" in an age when no one wants just a PDA anymore (or if they do, they don't want to have to pay for a data plan to get it). All the other companies are marketing themselves as Phone+Planner+ something e...
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Menno

Mar 9, 2010, 2:20 PM
Jay: Every device out there in the US right now is slated to get 2,0 or 2.1 this year (the limiting factor is how they handle 3d acceleration) While this isn't the same as with the iphone (even the oldest one gets more of the perks) Android has evolved a lot further in a year than the iphone has and only a portion of that is simply software improvements (the original devices didn't have multi-touch screens). The development process is A LOT better than it is with most other phones though. Until recently when you bought a phone, the ONLY way you would get a software update is if there was some fatal error in the original programming.

Yes, the fragmentation is something that could be an issue if it isn't handled properly. All Google ha...
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 2:32 PM
Stupid question for you: When you mentioned Google Earth, what did you mean by sideloading?

Hey Menno check this out, Google is working on search for tv:

https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
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Menno

Mar 9, 2010, 2:35 PM
Sideloading is downloading an app from another source (like android central or another website) and installing the app yourself. You want to be careful when doing it because the apps may not be market approved, but as long as you're smart with it, there is some really cool stuff out there.
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Jayshmay

Mar 9, 2010, 2:54 PM
Well theres a ratings & review system on websites that have Android apps outside the market right?
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Menno

Mar 9, 2010, 3:17 PM
there can be.. it depends on how official it is.

Google earth (since it is a marketplace app) doesn't really have one since it is just a .apk on the forums.. If you go to android Central though, there is an AWESOME writeup on android central this past week about non-market app installers (including adult oriented apps if that is your thing)
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bluecoyote

Mar 9, 2010, 11:03 PM
Except you've basically done the equivalent by installing 2.1 on your system as jailbreaking an iPhone.
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Menno

Mar 10, 2010, 1:19 AM
I make no secrets that I've rooted my phone. But most of the "eye candy" updates of 2.1 are available for stock (unrooted) 2.01 Droids. The only ones missing are the new launcher (which won't likely be in the official update as it still doesn't handle landscape mode well) and live wallpapers (because they require a core rewrite, though they do work on rooted 2.01)

And as I posted earlier, when 2.1 is officially released for the Droid, I can take my phone back to stock (unroot) and get the update if I so choose. It's really not that big of a deal as long as you're willing to spend some time reading about it first. I don't recommend rooting to anyone I know with a droid unless they're comfortable with computers (and most importantly the...
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bluecoyote

Mar 10, 2010, 1:17 PM
Jailbreaking your phone.
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Menno

Mar 10, 2010, 2:35 PM
after a fashion, however unlike most people who jailbroke their phone, I didn't do it to hack apps.

In fact, most of what customers jailbreak their Iphone for (multitasking, non market apps, custom skins and desktops) can be done natively from the device.

Cooked roms (early OS releases.. something you can't get on an iphon), Under/overclocking the device, etc are also things you can do, but for the average tech consumer, there is less of a reason to Root the droid than there is to jailbreak an iphone.
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Menno

Mar 9, 2010, 2:04 PM
no, they prohibit non market adds, they fill up the phone with bloatware, and they remove the Google Search widget (and thus a ton of the functionality... this means that the backflip most likely won't be able to use the diction software once you get 2.1
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