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And of the Droid?

trenen

Feb 2, 2010, 4:15 PM
I really hope this isn't a sign that the Motorola Droid is going to be neglected now. It's hardly three months old and obviously came around before the N1. The Milestone has the feature so it's obviously available. WTF Google!? 🤨
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 4:31 PM
What about the MyTouch or Hero owners who are stuck with Android 1.6/5 ? The Droid is old news like every other flavor of the month Android handset.

The Nexus One will be forgotten in hrm.... 3 weeks? 4 weeks? When is Sony Ericsson entering the fray?
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trenen

Feb 2, 2010, 4:39 PM
The problem is not about being "old news". the Droid will be updated to 2.1, which means that Google is still supporting it. The Milestone already has the MT implemented throughout and there are apps in the Market that make use of the Droid MT (so obviously it's already there and ready to use). There does not appear to be a legit reason for Google to not simply "turn on the switch", so to speak, for the rest of the phone to use MT.
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 4:45 PM
Yeah, won't the MyTouch and Hero be updated too? Or something like that? They're still running some janky old copy of it. Droid users are second-class citizens on this platform- you'll see the updates probably in the upcoming month after the next round of Nexus One updates. Or after Google releases the Nexus Two, which will feature new functions that will trickle down to the Nexus One, and maybe the Droid before Verizon drops it.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 4:57 PM
you mean like att iphone users are second class citizens because they have to wait for months for att to push through updates that apple releases.

It's the same issue here. Carriers have to approve updates. they cant just be pushed from a manufacturer unless the device is not "linked" to a carrier like the nexus one.
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 5:04 PM
So you're comparing a delay in MMS (a functionality long duplicated by the email client, twitter apps, facebook apps, and MobileMe Gallery and had no real impact on the thousands of applications in the iPhone ecosystem) to a further fractionalization of the input methods.

Yeah you don't need to be a genius to see that this, which is neglect for about 90% of the platform, is a bit of a different animal.
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trenen

Feb 2, 2010, 5:05 PM
I think on this level we are thinking more copy and paste...
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 5:07 PM
Apple gave copy & paste to every iPhone user- on the same day too.
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 5:19 PM
Do u have an Android phone, fanboy? Or are you just like all the other fanboys and like to bash everything not iphone and ATT.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 5:43 PM
let's put it this way... he thinks the iPad is amazing
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 6:49 PM
LoL!
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 11:08 PM
What's exactly wrong with that? Did you see the apps it was running?
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 11:16 PM
yes, I saw a pretty cool word processor and document sweet. But it's a half-hearted attempt at a device like that.
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 11:08 PM
My personal phones are an iPhone 3G (primary) and a Palm Pre (secondary.) I had a Nexus One for two weeks as a demo, and before that used the MyTouch and Droid.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 5:29 PM
because apple only deals with ONE carrier and ONE basic device. (and they made all versions of the device.)

and even beyond that, it took them YEARS to implement it (yes the implementation was great, but that is no excuse for the delay)

I have pinch zoom browsers, I rarely use them. I find double tap to be significantly more efficient for me.
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trenen

Feb 2, 2010, 5:04 PM
Well, technically, aren't the users going through T-Mobile unless they bought the phone off-contract?
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 5:19 PM
Sort of.. its on tmobile, but it's not a tmobile carrier phone. Google is selling it exclusively .
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Jayshmay

Feb 2, 2010, 5:40 PM
This "approving" stuff pisses me off! The damn carriers didn't make the phone, nor did the carrier make the software, carriers need to bud out of things they didn't make.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 4:56 PM
The Droid (and other stock google devices) didn't launch because Google was repecting apples "patent" on multi touch (you cannot patent things like this in the EU,so thus multi touch on the milestone)

Steve jobs flew off the handle this week and attacked Google, (just the final attack in quite a few) so I don't think google cares too much about what apple thinks anymore, especially since their patent will not hold up in court.
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 5:10 PM
What does Steve Jobs attacking Google have anything to do with this? And why would that have anything to do with holding up in court- a separate matter entirely?

I don't think Apple has anything against Google as a whole entity, though I think Apple isn't happy about Android but is also laughing at the incompetence at which Google has developed this platform. My guess is the next version of the iPhone OS will wipe Android off the map.
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 5:23 PM
*ROLLS EYES*
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 5:37 PM
Google and Apple used to respect each others developments and worked closely on the first iphone (the device wouldn't be the success it is today without google apps)

Because Steve Jobs is flying off the handle and berating google, there is no reason for google to hold off on multi touch.

Him going crazy has nothing to do with how it will hold up in court. the patent was ALWAYS week, which is why palm, htc, and others ignored it without apple going after them. Google was respecting it for whatever reason. now they have no reason to.

And for apple to release an iphone that will "wipe android off the map" they would need to:

-Have it launch on more than one carrier
-Allow their users to decide how they want to use the device, n...
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 6:48 PM
U Tell Him Menno!!!
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 4:54 PM
Hero users are getting updated to 2,0 2.1 sometime this spring. the my touch just got senseUI, so expect it to get 2.1 close to when the Eris/Hero will.
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 5:25 PM
Really??? When did the MT3G get the update with sense?? I never got it and I stopped using it as of yesterday when I got the N1.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 5:39 PM
sorry, it's the magic (the unbranded one)
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-releases-sense-ui- ... »

tmobile still has to approve update I guess
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sugarb85

Feb 2, 2010, 6:29 PM
Oh...damn.
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CellStudent

Feb 2, 2010, 9:31 PM
...that you can be so arrogantly condescending and pompous when talking about an organization that is striving to push the envelope and get something significantly better and improved TO THE MARKETPLACE every 3 to 4 months, and stand so rigidly behind an organization that is convinced that one-size fits all hardware, near-zero customization on software and only sees a redesign/upgrade once a year is in line to be sainted?

Here's a litmus test for you: Name 3 things you don't like about your iPhone and wish you could change.

If you can't do it, you're a Sheeple.
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bluecoyote

Feb 2, 2010, 11:05 PM
I've got complaints against the iPhone, I don't like how it handles notifications, I don't like the lack of unified view in Mail, and I don't like the the inability to sort pictures into albums.

There are other things my Pre does better than my iPhone too. I like how it manages multiple apps, I like its development platform, and I like the built-in IM client.

Even the Blackberry (with the exception of the Storm) manages not to bog down, though honestly that platform's relevance is dying fast.

That brings me to Android. Android does nothing superlatively well. Google may be delivering updates at a rapid pace, but not to the entire Android platform- in fact, I don't know if you can call Android a platform- it's honestly more like "s...
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 11:31 PM
1. Android notification system is one of the best (with the only exception being the pre, or it is better than the pre depending on who you talk to)

2. With the exception of the recent nexusone fiasco, Android phones seem to keep to their networks rather well and deliver above average call quality.

You don't like Android because it's not a single unified OS and there is variation within it. Which is fine, you have your preference. But there are a lot of people (myself included) who love this about the device.

Yes, there are things Google needs to take care of before it can become a "mature" OS, but it's growing at leaps and bounds in sophistication,and google won't hold an innovation back simply because it can't reach all dev...
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bluecoyote

Feb 3, 2010, 3:01 AM
1) Android's notification system is mediocre and spammy. It gets overloaded and clogged fast when you've got Facebook, Twitter, and a load of other apps all running. Yes it's better than the iPhone's, but after a week I found it a nuisance. The Pre does it spot-on perfect.

2) Uh maybe

3) Variation isn't bad, the web is designed for variation. The problem is the Android OS is *not* designed for variation. There's no sliding grid, no resolution independence ( not that I'd expect it but you gotta have something ) no direction for application development. Noone can even figure out the keyboard situation, and Google hasn't even bothered. Quite honestly- what the hell?

4) Google isn't even keeping everything consistent among the platfor...
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Menno

Feb 3, 2010, 3:14 AM
1) I have Twitter, Facebook, Google Talk, Beautiful widgets, SMS, Email all running on my device. No significant slow down (I only notice it when i am also running pandora and google maps, but it is a 1/2 second lag) I'm also subscribed to three magazines, 2 authors (neil geiman tweets enough for 7 authors), as well as my friends on twitter, and it's capable of handling it.

3) Keyboard situation? you mean that there are physical and non physical models? I'm confused here.

4) They are updating all phones to at least 2.0, if not 2.1 (the only thing preventing 2.1 from all devices is the 3d effects in 2.1 are too much for older phones) You've been told this countless times before. on top of that, a lot of 1.5 "only" apps worked quite...
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fairseth1304

Feb 3, 2010, 9:18 AM
I love my Zune...So eat it.
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Menno

Feb 2, 2010, 4:53 PM
It's not google. Remember, updates for non google phones are developed by the phone maker (motorola) and then approved by the carrier (verizon)

I wouldn't be suprised if when we got 2,1 it would have mutli-touch enabled (since that is a pretty easy thing to patch) or at latest we'll see it a few months in.

Remember, Motorola stated that they were going to push muti-touch on their devices
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