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stoopered

Dec 11, 2008, 3:04 PM
Again another story about LTE. Phonescoop failed to show the same story about Samsung doing the WiMax network in Dallas which I read over a year ago. It was never posted on this website. I think I am just going to stop using phonescoop as a reliable/unbiased source of information. BTW isn't Nokia working on WiMax also? You wouldn't be able to tell by reading phonescoop. 👿
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DiamondPro

Dec 13, 2008, 3:20 AM
Yeah i noticed this 2 sadly they keep leaving out great info on WiMax technology that is proven to work, while Lte is still in the test labs. Even japan has stated WiMax is doing way more numbers then lte.
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HawkeyeOC

Dec 14, 2008, 3:08 AM
DiamondPro said:
Yeah i noticed this 2 sadly they keep leaving out great info on WiMax technology that is proven to work, while Lte is still in the test labs. Even japan has stated WiMax is doing way more numbers then lte.


This isn't a competitive race anymore. The world chose LTE

Wimax is going the way of Betamax and the HDdvd format...going going gone.

You will hear less and less about wimax
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Slammer

Dec 14, 2008, 10:11 AM
HawkeyeOC said:


This isn't a competitive race anymore. The world chose LTE

Wimax is going the way of Betamax and the HDdvd format...going going gone.

You will hear less and less about wimax


Since most cellphone users have no idea what the heck LTE or WiMax is, this would mean the world did not choose LTE. The carriers along with special interest standard group did. Why? Take a look at the group and carriers. What does this group and carriers stand to gain by this? Will the subscribers as yourself really benefit with no other choice? Will this eliminate the carriers having control over what you get or not get? The argument is always what is best for the world? But if everyone was looking at it tha...
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HawkeyeOC

Dec 14, 2008, 5:22 PM
Before digital came along, equipment manufacturers had an easier time getting phones to market in the US. Then came CDMA and TDMA and PCS. Each carrier took it's own direction. To me it was a complete mess if a consumer liked a particular phone or manufacturer. Who knew when it would come out for any carrier?

With major carriers going towards one standard (I really don't care which really...LTE or Wimax) as far as I am concerned as a consumer I'll win.

The politics and interests behind the scenes is always interesting and can cause historical blunders like inferior VHS formats dominating over better BetaMax formats. At least a common format was chosen and we didn't have a fractional market for tapes for years after like the wireless in...
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Slammer

Dec 14, 2008, 5:44 PM
Your point is exact on. However, why are autos not under this scenerio? Imagine a world where everyone drove Hondas or had the same style house. No choice. Better yet? only one internet provider in your area. What price govern would there be? Look there will only be two choices. LTE or WiMax. Like you, I probably won't care as long as price is kept in check. WiMax will be that restrictor. We need WiMax. I don't support one choice for that reason. Video tapes are a completely different market where as you have hundreds of different manufactures of the same product. Not LTE. Do you see where I am heading with this?
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HawkeyeOC

Dec 14, 2008, 10:33 PM
Slammer said:
Your point is exact on. However, why are autos not under this scenerio? Imagine a world where everyone drove Hondas or had the same style house. No choice. Better yet? only one internet provider in your area. What price govern would there be? Look there will only be two choices. LTE or WiMax. Like you, I probably won't care as long as price is kept in check. WiMax will be that restrictor. We need WiMax. I don't support one choice for that reason. Video tapes are a completely different market where as you have hundreds of different manufactures of the same product. Not LTE. Do you see where I am heading with this?


Yes, I understand where you are headed.
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Slammer

Dec 15, 2008, 12:05 AM
The choice Sprint made baffles many alike. Gary Forsee invisioned Wimax. Dan Hesse comes in to clean house and had the chance to pull it out to go a different direction. But he didn't which leads to the question: Why?. What do they invision on the inside that we don't out here? WiMax will definitely give them a small lead but then what? Sprint undoubtedly has to know this.
My belief is that since Sprint historically has always been somewhat innovative in producing advancements before the other carriers, I think Wimax "may" be used as a base tool for another advancement in the future. But who knows? Fortunately, Sprint has positioned themselves so that they can walk away from Wimax if needed. Just hope it wouldn't be too late. The one thing ...
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algorithmplus

Dec 14, 2008, 5:52 PM
Since 90% of the world will be using LTE, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say the world has chosen LTE.

I agree, individual consumers have not chosen LTE over WiMax. But, did Sprint have a "Customer Referendum" so that customers could vote on immediately shutting down the CDMA network and going exclusively WiMax? Of course not. Neither did the customers of the carriers choosing LTE. In the same way that you say consumers have not chosen LTE, neither have they chosen WiMax.

The fact is, WiMax is going to be a world coverage leader like iDEN is going to be a world coverage leader. iDEN is great for the direct connect feature, but its coverage cannot match that of CDMA or GSM. Likewise, WiMax will be best suited for some applications...
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Slammer

Dec 14, 2008, 7:10 PM
The difference between the two references of LTE and Blu-ray is one is a product and one is a service. Products can be easily controlled by the price differential of hundreds of the same product. Services in this case are supplied to a customer under subscription that would not be price governed in the same manner. This is somewhat complicated but really not. The problem is that you have carriers offering their services and the add-on services such as EVDO or HSPA. What would be the efficiency motivation if there were only one type of service. Speed would be stagnant without a competitor forcing an advance. HSPA increases its speed. Now EVDO is forced to do the same but yet everyone in the user end reaps the benefits of competing costs.

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stoopered

Dec 15, 2008, 8:32 PM
algorithmplus said:
Since 90% of the world will be using LTE, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say the world has chosen LTE.

I agree, individual consumers have not chosen LTE over WiMax. But, did Sprint have a "Customer Referendum" so that customers could vote on immediately shutting down the CDMA network and going exclusively WiMax? Of course not. Neither did the customers of the carriers choosing LTE. In the same way that you say consumers have not chosen LTE, neither have they chosen WiMax.

The fact is, WiMax is going to be a world coverage leader like iDEN is going to be a world coverage leader. iDEN is great for the direct connect feature, but its coverage cannot match that of CDMA or GSM. Likewise, WiMax w
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