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WiMax Dead???

bigdaddyjay

Jan 18, 2008, 11:51 AM
Could this spell the end for WiMax? The data geared Sprintspeed commercials are not effective and Sprint posts another tragic quarter. My guess is that shareholders are going to be screaming for less spending on WiMax and look to Sprint to clean up Customer Service and work on their Postpaid subscribers losses.
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nickwright

Jan 18, 2008, 12:00 PM
it'd be logical to call off WiMax for now and work on the inner core of service. i think that might actually make it/break it for sprint, if they try and lauch it as a win-back promo, with failing numbers then they are done for. but they might have a chance if they hold it off, or cancel it alltogether.

my personal opinion is they might not make it to mid 09, if that
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wilocrek

Jan 18, 2008, 5:02 PM
Maybe you missed the news release from a couple of weeks ago that stated WiMax is officially a go. They have launched in three cities and plan to have up to 12 cities with WiMax by the end of this quarter. WiMax will make or break Sprint. All you fools that keep saying dump WiMax need to know exactly what your talking about. Sprint has invested way too much money to back out and why would they anyway. WiMax is going to be the fastest data network by leaps and bounds and Sprint has a 2 to 3 year head start on Verizon and the rest of the competition. Sprint will begin to attract business customers by the boatload for data cards. Already Sprint has seen an influx of Verizon data users who have switched to Sprint exclusively for the faster Revis...
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Skiffy

Jan 18, 2008, 5:48 PM
All of Verizon's EVDO network is Revision A. What do you mean by "...Verizon data users who have already switched to Sprint for Revision A".

Is one companies revision a faster?
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wilocrek

Jan 18, 2008, 6:04 PM
It has been said by many of the former Verizon users who have switched over to Sprint that the Revision A speeds of Sprint are consistently faster than Verizon's. This makes sense. Even though currently Verizon and Sprint both use Revision A, the speeds are still only going to be as fast as the network allows. Verizon's spectrum has been operating at maximum for quite some time, which is why they were banishing unlimited data user's who used too much. Their network is strained as it is, therefore lower average speeds.
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bigdaddyjay

Jan 18, 2008, 6:23 PM
Verizon's spectrum has been operating at maximum? Please show me factual data to support your claim, you are talking out your a$$ and you know it.
I have run a Verizon Rev-A card with a Sprint Rev-A card on similar laptops and seen minimal difference and the speeds can go either way with one better than the other and vise versa.
Where is your info on all the people leaving VZW aircards for Sprint as well? This is another one I haven't heard and judging from over 600k in postpaid losses this quarter alone I highly doubt it.
I heard in many areas that VZW ports in 10-15 Sprint cusotmers for every one it loses, I wouldn't be surprised of at&t have similar numbers.
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dublea

Jan 18, 2008, 7:04 PM
In the south east, its not about speed, its about coverage. VZW just doesn't have the same coverage as far as EV-DO Rev A goes. Sprint beats them hands down. When working for sprint, a quarter of all my activations were from air-cards. Out of that amount that switch carriers for data it was about a 70% att to 30% VZW. All of the VZW customers stated it was all due to coverage, not speed. Sprint, nation wide, covers about 30-50 million more people and about 30-40 more markets than VZW (these numbers are what were released when I worked for them so there could be a change) When Sprint comes out with WiMax, it will ONLY do one thing, boost sales.
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wilocrek

Jan 18, 2008, 7:10 PM
Fair enough. While I don't have any hard data on Verizon's network running at a maximum, can you give me another reason for Verizon cutting off the high data users on their supposedly unlimited data plans? Sprint has never done that and their the ones with all the trouble. So either Verizon was doing it for kicks and giggles or they are having problems with too much data traffic tapping out their spectrum. So I will rephrase it as "Its possible that Verizon's spectrum may be at it limits based on the fact they were kicking off high end data users". As for overall data speeds, Wells Fargo and several other fortune 500 companies went with Sprint's air cards over Verizons, EVEN though they were using Verizon for their cell phone service. Now th...
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bigdaddyjay

Jan 18, 2008, 11:11 PM
Sprint still lost over 600k postpaid customers, WiMax will not save them as EVDO and Sprintspeed haven't. What will Sprint do when a majority of worldwide carriers are using LTE and they are utilizing a WiMax network? Think of the lost roaming revenue alone!
As for high end data users here is the point. You can have one data hog downloading gigs of data and paying you 59.99 a month or several more people using it for business and general use paying 59.99 and using the same amount of data as a group that the data hog uses. It comes down to simple business, more people streaming less data= profits. Less people streaming excessive data= Charity and loss of jobs and market share.
Keep dumping money into WiMax Sprint, everyone else will be m...
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knx2

Jan 19, 2008, 4:22 PM
Why don't people understand that WiMAX is going to be a new standard? It is not something Sprint came up with it is a new technology for wireless. Sprint wants to have the latest and greatest. So stay with your roaming and analog, the government is taking that way and you will be stuck with Xohm. Just a matter of time ;)
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verizoncdma

Jan 19, 2008, 8:14 PM
Ok well WIMAX is not the new standard, sprint is the only one going with this. Verizon, At&t and t-mobile are going LTE. Also oversea's vodaphone and d-telecom are going LTE. so one sprint will losse romming and be all alone with WIMAX. and also with speeds or 100mps per sec with LTE poor WIMAX looks like a waste, if spring went this way it would have been better for them. and also with us and our partners in crime going the same tech. we will be world based not just the us.
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knx2

Jan 23, 2008, 1:52 PM
That is what everyone said about HD DVD. HD dvd is being beat out by blueray now. =P
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Knightlyjay

Jan 19, 2008, 5:02 AM
Verizon got some bad press for "limiting" the unlimited plan a few months back, though the same limits are present for both Sprint and AT&T. Unfortunately for all the companies, this info is buried deeply within the user agreement for the data plans.

The user is limited to 5GB of bandwidth per month, but can access the network 24/7. 5GB is a reasonable amount if you aren't streaming video. It is the equivalent of 25000 web pages or so (the industry average is 200k per page).

VZW's misstep was no worse than Sprint's when it was "firing" customers who were calling customer service too often. We often overreact and certainly overdramatize these occurrences.
As for coverage issues, I can say that VZW's coverage in the Nor...
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