Sony Ericsson Adds Kodiak PTT To Feature List
ugh
nokia better be working on something for cingular!
Have you tried the SE 710, p910, k750, w800. All great phones and more on the way...
if nokia made crap, then why is their market share around 60%? why do people switch from Moto and SEMC to Nokia more often than people switch from nokia to one of the others?
i have indeed tried the 710, and i wasn't a fan. it was way too cumbersome and the navagatability (is that even a word?) of the menus and overall user-friendliness were, IMO, crap...plus, they still use that same damn charger, which has a sorted history of not working...
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by the way nokia doesnt have global market share of 60 percent. (it is up there but its not 60 percent)
and regardless, nokia has more US market share than SEMC...which was my original point
actually nokia has global market share of 33%.
"Based on our preliminary market estimate, Nokia's market share for the second quarter 2005 grew to 33%, compared with 31% in the second quarter 2004 and 32% in the first quarter 2005. Strong sequential market share gains were achieved in Latin America followed by China and North America, while our share in other regions remained unchanged. "
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,1522,,00.html?orig=/200 ... »
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http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/25/yourmoney/mob ... »
"Nokia's share of the global cellphone market fell to 30.4 percent in the first quarte...
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either that, or he's entrirely full of ****, which very well could be...
however...Nokia > SEMC... which is all that matters...right?
i think that he maybe didnt understand what he was talking about?
but yes, nokia is greater then SEMC.
GSM > CDMA, IMO
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Nokia, IMO, makes a far superior product to moto... just judging from the number of moto handsets i have to take back/repair for ****ty charging jacks, speakers going out, screen malfunction, etc...
nokia makes far products then moto? well in some areas maybe in some no. in united states and in a few other markets that isnt the case becuase of the market share that moto has against nokia.
in your opinion, what is better then motorola's razr?
nextel18 said:As a fashion statement or a fashion accessory the razr (prefered in black) is great but from a features standpoint I can think of a few.
...in your opinion, what is better then motorola's razr?
Sony Ericsson K750i still being my choice...and being on TMobile [at least until Cingular get a quad-band SE phone like the w600i] I don't need the 850 band.
Check out the phone specs compared...k750i/razr/8800
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B% ... »
however if you're looking at screen size, thickness (thinness), and wasting money on a gimmick then the razr is obviously a better choice
its only popular because it was new, and they advertised the living hell out of it...
when i go overseas i see a lot of advertisments of nokia then i see with motorola, but that is understandable.
nextel18 said:Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's the best. We can look at Microsoft Windows for that.
can you answer me this then? why is the razr extremly popular and why motorola said their revenues has soared becuase of people purchasing this razor phone? nokia hasnt mentioned anything about the 6230 sales have they? if they have can you let me know what they said about it? thanks.
Again I like the razr, it's the rave with all the soccer moms who want to look cool and impress their neighbors but if you want features and a sturdy phone (that doesn't shatter when you drop it) you buy something else.
your assessmenet about what that whole soccer moms is a pathetic statement to make.
regardless, motorola has said many a times that the razor is doing extremly well and cant wait till it goes onto the cdma network.
TinyJ316 said:What study are you getting your info from. I'd love to read it.
Yeah, i thought that 60% was a bit too high, however, it could be understandable...seeing as how nokia gives better reception (on average) than most other phones...and since GSM is still expanding in the states, reception is key...
TinyJ316 said:And that is why you have an opinion and I have an opinion...
i beg to differ... nokia does not make crap at all...
if nokia made crap, then why is their market share around 60%? why do people switch from Moto and SEMC to Nokia more often than people switch from nokia to one of the others?
i have indeed tried the 710, and i wasn't a fan. it was way too cumbersome and the navagatability (is that even a word?) of the menus and overall user-friendliness were, IMO, crap...plus, they still use that same damn charger, which has a sorted history of not working...
I think nokia makes poor quality phones...They want to make fashionable phones instead, which is fine. I just won't buy them. I l...
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regarding SE, please dont even put them in the same sentence as motorola and nokia becuase SE is horrible against them. (market share proves that)
nextel18 said:How does market share for a company that has only been around since q1 2002 (when sony and ericsson merged) show/tell you enough info to make that statement? "please dont even put them in the same sentence as motorola and nokia"
i agree with your nokia statement that i think they make not the best phones out there and that they are junk.
regarding SE, please dont even put them in the same sentence as motorola and nokia becuase SE is horrible against them. (market share proves that)
Moto has made lots of bad phones too. Do you remember the T720 [gsm or cdma, I don't care] I know more people who returned that phone or kept haivng to get replacements then any other handset.
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2-3 years is enough to show if you deserve to be in any business and since they have 3-4 other competitiors who have double digit market share it shows that they arent doing that well against them.
If you are talking 5-7% wroldwide I think you are wrong though. If you are talking US only I will agree that SE doesn't have a big share currently but they don't make CDMA phones and nokia has an exclusive deal to sell nokia candybar style phones only.
But SE is changing that. That is why in Friday, August 26 they are selling their new SE W800 walkman phone at Sony Style stores [ http://sonystyle.com/retail/ ] Also they are putting big money into advertising including at movie where you can skip them "Sony Ericsson said it is committing about 75% of its North American media budget to ads in movie theaters." http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2005/04 /13/sony-eri...
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"Worldwide Mobile Terminal Sales to End-Users in 1Q05
http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2005/Mobile-Phon ... »
1Q05 Market Share %
Sony Ericsson 5.5
"The picture wasn't rosy for everyone, though, with Siemens and Sony Ericsson losing market share. According to Gartner, Siemens' first-quarter 2005 result of 5.5 percent market share, down from 8 percent, was the lowest level reported for Siemens since 1999""
http://msn.com.com/2100-1035_22-5722892.html »
"Siemens, in the fifth position, saw its market share slip to its lowest level since 1999, Gartner said. The company shipped 9.942 million units, just ahead of Sony Ericsson's 9.900 million units.
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nextel18 said:Very simply, I ask where you got your figures "to learn"/"to see" the actual numbers b/c I don't have them in front of me and I couldn't find recent number searching on google. As opposed to being sarcastic, ie, 'where do you get your numbers...you're wrong and so are your numbers...etc."
again to learn? what does that mean?
I thought SE was closer to 8%. I was wrong.
I still prefer their phones to what I have see from Nokia and Moto.
yea that is true. đ
no problem being wrong sometimes.
i dont prefer SE over nokia and motorola. âšī¸ sorry.
I digress, however, now let's see wjat's what shall we?
First of all on the question of market share. SE do indeed have a substantially lower share of the global market than Nokia, but then this is to be expected. I say this for a very simple reason, SE direct the bulk of their resources towards Europe and Japan. There is also the fact that SE have historically concentrated on mid to high-end handsets, which means that many poorer markets don't receive these products very well. Thirdly we have the fact that SE have had a smaller product portfolio than their rivals e.g. Nok...
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good opinion anyway.
nextel18 said:
no excuses my friend. SE is horrible. i dont care if you think so, but you have a right to, but i care about what others think. such as global market share. facts are facts. đ
good opinion anyway.
Good opinion but SE sucks anyway? Do you actually read these things to yourself before you post them?
TinyJ316 said:
i beg to differ... nokia does not make crap at all...
if nokia made crap, then why is their market share around 60%? why do people switch from Moto and SEMC to Nokia more often than people switch from nokia to one of the others?
i have indeed tried the 710, and i wasn't a fan. it was way too cumbersome and the navagatability (is that even a word?) of the menus and overall user-friendliness were, IMO, crap...plus, they still use that same damn charger, which has a sorted history of not working...
60%? Um...
staiano said:
Nokia makes crap. The release the same phone but change the last number on the phone so they can charge you again.
Have you tried the SE 710, p910, k750, w800. All great phones and more on the way...
Newsflash there, Einstein...Nokia makes the most durable, dependable GSM handsets on the planet period. SE doesn't even compare in that department.
muchdrama said:staiano said:
Nokia makes crap. The release the same phone but change the last number on the phone so they can charge you again.
Have you tried the SE 710, p910, k750, w800. All great phones and more on the way...
Newsflash there, Einstein...Nokia makes the most durable, dependable GSM handsets on the planet period. SE doesn't even compare in that department.
lol no you're wrong. SE's t68i (worlds first multimedia messaging phone which is pretty old) can withstand more durable/dependable tests than ur choice of pick, nokia.
thehazmat said:lol no you're wrong. SE's t68i (worlds first multimedia messaging phone which is pretty old) can withstand more durable/dependable tests than ur choice of pick, nokia.Very well said thehazmat.
Having said that, SE handsets can break and develop faults, but then so can handsets from any manufacturer. I have heard some people describe Motorolas as being rather hardy yet other decry them for being prone to breaking. One can't really generalise based upon a select number of opinions.
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scotsboyuk said:...
It is rather silly to generalise about an entire brand. Both my T68i and T610 work perfectly well despite having been subjected to countless knocks, bumps and other wear and tear over the past few years. My P800 and my P900 are both still in perfect working order, again after a year or two of usage. My S700 is still going strong despite having been dropped and bashed more times than I care to remember.
Having said that, SE handsets can break and develop faults, but then so can handsets from any manufacturer. I have heard some people describe Motorolas as being rather hardy yet other decry them for being prone to breaking. One can't really generalise based upon a select number of opinions.
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staiano said:thehazmat said:lol no you're wrong. SE's t68i (worlds first multimedia messaging phone which is pretty old) can withstand more durable/dependable tests than ur choice of pick, nokia.Very well said thehazmat.
Oh, good Lord? The t68? Does anyone even remember how many problems people had with the t68? Yeesh. SE releases a fancy swivel model, and suddenly people forget the terror SE's unleashed on the world.
thehazmat said:...muchdrama said:staiano said:
Nokia makes crap. The release the same phone but change the last number on the phone so they can charge you again.
Have you tried the SE 710, p910, k750, w800. All great phones and more on the way...
Newsflash there, Einstein...Nokia makes the most durable, dependable GSM handsets on the planet period. SE doesn't even compare in that department.
Ahahahahahahahaahahaha! Ha...eh, oh wait. You're serious? Ahahahahahahahahaa!
lol no you're wrong. SE's t68i (worlds first multimedia messaging phone which is pretty old) can withstand more durable/dependable tests than ur choice of pick, nokia.
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muchdrama said:...thehazmat said:muchdrama said:staiano said:
Nokia makes crap. The release the same phone but change the last number on the phone so they can charge you again.
Have you tried the SE 710, p910, k750, w800. All great phones and more on the way...
Newsflash there, Einstein...Nokia makes the most durable, dependable GSM handsets on the planet period. SE doesn't even compare in that department.
Ahahahahahahahaahahaha! Ha...eh, oh wait. You're serious? Ahahahahahahahahaa!
lol no you're wrong. SE's t68i (worlds first multimedia messaging phone which is pretty old) can withstand more durable/dependable tests than
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