Motorola, Nextel Clarify Future of iDEN
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No need to panic, you're Nextel rig will continue to work just fine for the next couple of years.
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But then you have to be a part of Sprint PCS, no way. I've already cancelled my Nextel account and so has my employer. We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
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wintersky95 said:
But then you have to be a part of Sprint PCS, no way. I've already cancelled my Nextel account and so has my employer. We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
Gotta love the knee-jerk reactions. 😈
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Corpo Rat said:That's the worst one yet.wintersky95 said:
But then you have to be a part of Sprint PCS, no way. I've already cancelled my Nextel account and so has my employer. We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
Gotta love the knee-jerk reactions. 😈
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I don't think it's fair to criticize someone's actions/opinions about a carrier. Nor to call it a knee jerk reaction. Sometime people do things out of principle..say for instance they had a really really really bad experince with Sprint that maybe cost their business an important account. Also, keep in mind that Sprint isn't known for being the most reputable carrier. I live in NYC and have worked for a couple of carriers here and have heard a lot of business types trash Sprint...Sprint is known as the 'ghetto' carrier. Or the carrier for people with really bad credit...A lot of people wouldn't be caught dead with a Sprint phone...Sprint is kinda like a Mullet. It's just not very cool. And rightly or wrongly..thought to be low class. ...
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I don't think it's fair to criticize someone's actions/opinions about a carrier. Nor to call it a knee jerk reaction. Sometime people do things out of principle..say for instance they had a really really really bad experince with Sprint that maybe cost their business an important account. Also, keep in mind that Sprint isn't known for being the most reputable carrier. I live in NYC and have worked for a couple of carriers here and have heard a lot of business types trash Sprint...Sprint is known as the 'ghetto' carrier. Or the carrier for people with really bad credit...A lot of people wouldn't be caught dead with a Sprint phone...Sprint is kinda like a Mullet. It's just not very cool. And rightly or
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I think saying sprint is a terrible carrier is correct. I have had friends that have had it and have said it's the worst they have ever had. My brother for one, travels the country, and I could never get a hold of him. He finally switched to Cingular and he loves it. It's also a known fact that if you need a cellphone, and you have bad credit, you go to sprint. When my buddy was looking for his first cellphone, everyone was quoting him a $500 security deposit. He went to sprint, and didn't have pay anything. While the term "ghetto carrier" may not be politically correct, it is correct.
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BigRob said:If your buddy was getting $500 security deposit quotes from other carriers, then he definitely had to pay someth...
I think saying sprint is a terrible carrier is correct. I have had friends that have had it and have said it's the worst they have ever had. My brother for one, travels the country, and I could never get a hold of him. He finally switched to Cingular and he loves it. It's also a known fact that if you need a cellphone, and you have bad credit, you go to sprint. When my buddy was looking for his first cellphone, everyone was quoting him a $500 security deposit. He went to sprint, and didn't have pay anything. While the term "ghetto carrier" may not be politically correct, it is correct.
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When I said that Sprint was known as the "ghetto" carrier...I did not mean that Sprint itself was "Ghetto"..nor did I mean that there was anything wrong or bad about the ghetto or the people in it. It may not be the politically correct thing to say(like BigRob said) but is a fair statement to say that that has become the perception in many peoples eyes. My point was that if you are working in an industry where little things (like your wireless service provider or the brand of suit you wear) have an impact on your industries opinion of you...I can understand the knee jerk reaction. In other words, people may not cancel their accounts just because they believe the service will change. They may just not like the association with the brand....
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I can understand the knee jerk reaction. In other words, people may not cancel their accounts just because they believe the service will change. They may just not like the association with the brand.But any reasonable adult would think through such a decision. This guy and his boss would be dealing with a whole new company with a different corporate culture. New billing systems, network technology, and handsets would definitely make me think before I took such drastic measures.
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Imagine a "ghetto carrier" with the most advanced network in the USA. Imagine a carrier with more corporate customers than any other except Verizon and now Cingular. Add Nextel and I believe you have the most corporate customers of any carrier.
Most of the things Sprint customers are already doing are pipe dreams for Cingular customers for when they finally get 3G.
This is ghetto? Yes they have made it easy for many people to afford the initial cost of becoming a wireless customer but that does not make them ghetto it makes them more fair minded. If it is so "ghetto" then why is their churn rate lower than T-Mobile's and Cingular's? It seems if they were ghetto then they would have a lot of non-pay churn, but it is lower than most.
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Most of the things Sprint customers are already doing are pipe dreams for Cingular customers for when they finally get 3G.
This is ghetto? Yes they have made it easy for many people to afford the initial cost of becoming a wireless customer but that does not make them ghetto it makes them more fair minded. If it is so "ghetto" then why is their churn rate lower than T-Mobile's and Cingular's? It seems if they were ghetto then they would have a lot of non-pay churn, but it is lower than most.
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They are still no Verizon when it comes to customer service but then again either is anyone else.Well, don't forget about Tmobile's customer service. I spent about a year working as a wireless lead at CC before I was promoted, and I have to say...Tmobile's customer service is definitely first rate. My experiences with them were even better than my experience with Verizon's customer service reps.
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SPCSVZWJeff said:
Imagine a "ghetto carrier" with the most advanced network in the USA. Imagine a carrier with more corporate customers than any other except Verizon and now Cingular. Add Nextel and I believe you have the most corporate customers of any carrier.
Look...I'm not trying to insult Sprint or question their network quality. Im just stating that like it or not..that perception of being the 'ghetto' carrier or being 'low-class' does exist. I'm not saying it's deserved at all..I'm relaying an attitude toward the company that I have percieved as being fairly common and providing another possible explanation as to why someone would cancel their nextel account after hearing about the merger.
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YOU may think Sprint to be a ghetto carrier due to your perception of your friend's problems with the service...but you're basing your view on misinformation. Applying "ghetto" to a corporation doesn't even fit anyway...what exactly is your beef with the company? They treated you...
Look...I'm not trying to insult Sprint or question their network quality. Im just stating that like it or not..that perception of being the 'ghetto' carrier or being 'low-class' does exist. I'm not saying it's deserved at all..I'm relaying an attitude toward the company that I have percieved as being fairly common and providing another possible explanation as to why someone would cancel their nextel account after hearing about the merger.
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For the love of god!!! I've now had to repeat this 3 TIMES!!! I'm not saying that Sprint is ghetto!!! I was simply stating that there is a perception out there that is held by some people that this is the case...I DO NOT THINK SPRINT IS A 'GHETTO' CARRIER! But some people do. I've sold Sprint, VErizon, AT&T, and T-mobile and I've heard many of my customers say similiar things....all I was doing was relaying another possible explanation for why people would cancel their Nextel account when they heard about the merger. If you reread my posts you will see that this is the case and that you are attacking me for no reason.
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jcrow78 said:I never attacked you, but when you mention there are mysterious "people" out...
For the love of god!!! I've now had to repeat this 3 TIMES!!! I'm not saying that Sprint is ghetto!!! I was simply stating that there is a perception out there that is held by some people that this is the case...I DO NOT THINK SPRINT IS A 'GHETTO' CARRIER! But some people do. I've sold Sprint, VErizon, AT&T, and T-mobile and I've heard many of my customers say similiar things....all I was doing was relaying another possible explanation for why people would cancel their Nextel account when they heard about the merger. If you reread my posts you will see that this is the case and that you are attacking me for no reason.
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MUchdrama...
what's your problem man? You come on this website and trash people who know less than you and act like you are smarter and more informed than anyone else. You have serious perception and attitude problems. You obviously do know quite a bit about the wireless industry and I'm sure that your knowledge is appreciated by a lot of people on here. Why don't you put it to good use instead of using it as a put down? Or at least grow up and stop acting like a toddler. HAve a conversation. Loose the one liner put downs and get a better understanding of the word slanderous... You're the kind of guy who got picked on too much in high school and now looks for any opportunity to make yourself feel important. You're on this site acti...
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what's your problem man? You come on this website and trash people who know less than you and act like you are smarter and more informed than anyone else. You have serious perception and attitude problems. You obviously do know quite a bit about the wireless industry and I'm sure that your knowledge is appreciated by a lot of people on here. Why don't you put it to good use instead of using it as a put down? Or at least grow up and stop acting like a toddler. HAve a conversation. Loose the one liner put downs and get a better understanding of the word slanderous... You're the kind of guy who got picked on too much in high school and now looks for any opportunity to make yourself feel important. You're on this site acti...
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MUchdrama...
what's your problem man? You come on this website and trash people who know less than you and act like you are smarter and more informed than anyone else. You have serious perception and attitude problems. You obviously do know quite a bit about the wireless industry and I'm sure that your knowledge is appreciated by a lot of people on here. Why don't you put it to good use instead of using it as a put down? Or at least grow up and stop acting like a toddler. HAve a conversation. Loose the one liner put downs and get a better understanding of the word slanderous... You're the kind of guy who got picked on too much in high school and now looks for any opportunity to make yourself feel im
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muchdrama said:
Wow. Popped a cork there, did you? Yes, I got beat up in high school ALL the time and now I've got it in just for YOU. Some ego you've got there, pal. No need for the high school cracks or sexual dysfunction jokes...you lower yourself. If you can't stand my comments, quit reading them.
If you post 'em, I can read 'em. And comment on 'em....If you don't like it..lose the attitude.
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jcrow78 said:So now we're playing girl games? You obviously can't handle what you read...so do us all a favor and quit reading.muchdrama said:
Wow. Popped a cork there, did you? Yes, I got beat up in high school ALL the time and now I've got it in just for YOU. Some ego you've got there, pal. No need for the high school cracks or sexual dysfunction jokes...you lower yourself. If you can't stand my comments, quit reading them.
If you post 'em, I can read 'em. And comment on 'em....If you don't like it..lose the attitude.
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I've noticed the muchdrama guys attiutude ever since I started reading these forums. Muchdrama you really do need to grow up, and Jcrow your original post about him being the loner guy in high school that got beat was a perfect assumption untill you had to start talking about the sex life. That was just totally irrelevant, and immature. Lowering yourself to his level. As it was said by Jcrow this is the internet. There is no use waisting time on "my balls are bigger then yours" posts, and just stick to the facts. Because in the end no one will ever know how big your balls are. Well, unless you post a picture, but for mine, and everyone else's sake. Let's hope it doesn't get to that.
This has been a public service anouncement by BigRob
This has been a public service anouncement by BigRob
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and Jcrow your original post about him being the loner guy in high school that got beat was a perfect assumption untill you had to start talking about the sex life. That was just totally irrelevant, and immature.So let's get this straight...the comment about being a loner wasn't immature, but the one about sexual dysfunction was? Brilliant.
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The sexual comment wasn't meant to be a direct insult about sexual dysfunction..it was meant to classify the type of person muchdrama must be to have to act like an a$$hole on phonescoop.com to get his daily ego boost. Sorry if I was sinking to his level.
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jcrow78 said:So now you're responding to him through my post? Doubly brilliant. Hey, isn't it amazing how someone will resort to the type of insults you did when they're outwitted/outsmarted?
The sexual comment wasn't meant to be a direct insult about sexual dysfunction..it was meant to classify the type of person muchdrama must be to have to act like an a$$hole on phonescoop.com to get his daily ego boost. Sorry if I was sinking to his level.
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muchdrama said:and Jcrow your original post about him being the loner guy in high school that got beat was a perfect assumption untill you had to start talking about the sex life. That was just totally irrelevant, and immature.So let's get this straight...the comment about being a loner wasn't immature, but the one about sexual dysfunction was? Brilliant.
You are only proving Jcrow's assumption of you. I will not flame you back though. I realized this is the internet, and meaningless flame posts are a waiste of my time.
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BigRob said:Yet here you are answering my post. Again.muchdrama said:and Jcrow your original post about him being the loner guy in high school that got beat was a perfect assumption untill you had to start talking about the sex life. That was just totally irrelevant, and immature.So let's get this straight...the comment about being a loner wasn't immature, but the one about sexual dysfunction was? Brilliant.
You are only proving Jcrow's assumption of you. I will not flame you back though. I realized this is the internet, and meaningless flame posts are a waiste of my time.
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I don't think it's fair to criticize someone's actions/opinions about a carrier. Nor to call it a knee jerk reaction. Sometime people do things out of principle..say for instance they had a really really really bad experince with Sprint that maybe cost their business an important account. Also, keep in mind that Sprint isn't known for being the most reputable carrier. I live in NYC and have worked for a couple of carriers here and have heard a lot of business types trash Sprint...Sprint is known as the 'ghetto' carrier. Or the carrier for people with really bad credit...A lot of people wouldn't be caught dead with a Sprint phone...Sprint is kinda like a Mullet. It's just not very cool. And rightly or
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I think the brands will be Sprint Classic (Consumer CDMA PCS) and Sprint Professional (Business-friendly iDEN).
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wintersky95 said:
We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
Curious, what did they do exactly to make you feel this way?
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My guess would be that they supplised them with nothing but endless problems derived from crappy service. But that's just my guess. I'm sure he's not calling it a terrible company because the service was A+. That's just what I think though, I could be wrong.......... 😛
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Let's keep in mind that this has been classified as a "merger of equals". Hopefully the two will recognize respective strengths and extinguish their weaknesses... (hopefully)
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Well thank you for speaking on behalf of someone else. The question was directed to wintersky95. In any case, as it has been stated many times on this site by intelligent individuals, all carriers have areas of the country that their coverage is better than the others and areas that are in need of improvement compared to others. The people that complain about coverage are complaining about an area they frequent and are not aware of how good it is for the people who are happy with the same carrier the their respective area. I have been with four carriers now and all have had coverage problems in different areas. Just find one that meets your needs and go with them and stop bad mouthing a carrier just because it's not the right one for yo...
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AMEN!! Thank you! Finally someone with sense has spoken up. There are pros and cons to every carrier. My firm signed up with Sprint two years ago and have been happy ever since. I deal with high level execs and ceo's on a daily basis and many of them have Sprint as well. So the perception of Sprint being a low-class or ghetto carrier exist only in the simple minds of those who have had a bad experience. I believe that many of the negative statements said about Sprint originated from when they grossly oversold their service in the beginning. I have done business models on Sprint and I do see vast improvement in the way they conduct their business. Not to mention that I bought 10,000 shares when the stock hit rock bottom at $1.92 per ( I jus...
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Ok, so, you want people to praise a company that has horrible service and crappy customer service? LMAO! I don't care who you are that right there is funny! If I get horrible service for anything you can garrun-damn-tee I'll be telling anyone how listens about how horrible it was. It's just a fact of life. When someone is treated wrong, everyone they know is going to hear about it.
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wintersky95 said:If you were happy with Nextel's current service then that was a huge blunder on your employer's part. It'll be two years before you'll see any changes.
But then you have to be a part of Sprint PCS, no way. I've already cancelled my Nextel account and so has my employer. We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
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muchdrama said:wintersky95 said:If you were happy with Nextel's current service then that was a huge blunder on your employer's part. It'll be two years before you'll see any changes.
But then you have to be a part of Sprint PCS, no way. I've already cancelled my Nextel account and so has my employer. We used to have Sprint and will never touch or give one cent to that terrible company again. Bad move Nextel.
No kidding. I see this all the time myself - customers cancelling just because AWS was bought by Cingular - even though their rate plans, billing system, customer service.. everything but the logo on their bill is staying the same for years and years to come.
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In some cases it's okay to bash a carrier. I was with Nextel for about a year, service was great, never had a problem. Then, all of the sudden the service just flat lined. Umm, one day it's good, next day it's bad and never did it go back to the good. So what's up with that? You can't say I chose a carrier that didn't happen to have good service in my area, because it did, then it stopped. So yeah, I'd say that's pretty crappy. It wasn't just me, majority of the people that I know that had service with Nextel had the same problems, but no more problems now. Not because Nextel did anything about it, but because it was plain to see that Nextel wasn't worth our money or time, so we switched. I switched to Cingular, most others to Veriz...
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I was with Nextel for about a year, service was great, never had a problem. Then, all of the sudden the service just flat lined.I seemed like it occurred overnight...but it really didn't. I believe Nextel's reached the theoretical limits of its network. WiDEN should fix a few problems until Nextel can take advantage of CDMA.
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