Sprint, Nextel Announce Merger

whoa switch to Verizon???

You mean the service who's PTT takes 3-6 seconds to connect due to latency?

OR do you mean the company who touts they cover 95 markets when they actually only cover 85 (look it up gumshoe, they have a PATCHWORK NETWORK. their COMPANY OWNED DIGITAL coverage is only 85%. The rest is analog, or agreements.)

Or is it the company who has the HIGHEST consumer cost to plan?

Wait wait...how about the company that uses CDMA technology that only works in 6 countries?

No, how about a company who produces the worst/ugliest/boring phones EVER?

Give me a BREAK.

yep...verizon sucks..just there crappy ass phones is enough to piss anyone off...

Why do you say: "no more fast walkie talkie phones"

Sprint offer to their customers a PTT services for CDMA phones!!!!
thats better than iDEN phones from Nextel.
iDEN phones don't have a camera or are able to send picture messages, they are all trash.
Sprint's CDMA PTT phones, are good, beacuse you can have video camera, WAP, download games, and also have a PTT service.

Just the CDMA PTT is not up to par as was the iDEN was.

All Nextel customers would have to change their crappy ass phones fro new and modern CDMA PTT phones.

actually for a 2.5 G tech Nextel has an excellent voice service, and i am sad to see it go away

but Nextel only have voice service, no multimedia services. 🤣

And for a lot of people that is fine. There are a lot of customers that just use their phone to make calls so iden is just fine.

OK...have you people that are spouting all this crap actually compared the two services side by side or just repeating the garbage you've heard from other sources?

How about the company that works were others don't. I don't know about you, but for me, my coverage is more important than a flashy phone or if my phone will work in Europe. Does it make a difference if it's only 85% owned with 10% agreements?? It doesn't cost the consumer anymore money and provides them with better coverage.

With all the competition, why are VZW numbers growing? Why are consumers pouring in? For the simple reason....it works.

Adalan said:
How about the company that works were others don't. I don't know about you, but for me, my coverage is more important than a flashy phone or if my phone will work in Europe. Does it make a difference if it's only 85% owned with 10% agreements?? It doesn't cost the consumer anymore money and provides them with better coverage.

With all the competition, why are VZW numbers growing? Why are consumers pouring in? For the simple reason....it works.

There are certain people on these forums that refuse to recognize the 1.5 million subscribers Verizon's been adding every quarter.

Re: What it all means...

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Adalan said:
How about the company that works were others don't. I don't know about you, but for me, my coverage is more important than a flashy phone or if my phone will work in Europe. Does it make a difference if it's only 85% owned with 10% agreements?? It doesn't cost the consumer anymore money and provides them with better coverage.

With all the competition, why are VZW numbers growing? Why are consumers pouring in? For the simple reason....it works.
There are certain people on these forums that refuse to recognize the 1.5 million subscribers Verizon's been adding every quarter.
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Verizon is great for newbies and grandmas. When you need a service provider that offers you the bigest and fastest speed data's available in the industry(Soon to get faster with WI-FI)or the bigest PTT network in the contry you'll leave you safe zone and vertue into Sprint-Nextel.

the public are so uneducated and believe T>V> thats the answer not to mention many new transformed gsm customers are switching to CDMA many people LIKE YOU have no knowledge that Sprints free and clear america is the largest network in the u.s. it allows for the use of VERIZON and subcontracted other rural companies that verizon has no access to. this plan is a true us nationwide no extra charges plan. verizons americas choice has roaming in most rural areas. so it cant even be compared in the same catagory. o yea and sprints plan is cheaper than verizons....get informed and then speak.

You should try the PTT service with Verizon now. Its already significantly faster than when it was launched.

Verizon is never going to be the cheapest with the most minutes since there network and coverage are the BEST!

How many people travel regularly to other countries?? What percent of the US population does?? Not that many. So International isnt that big. Oh wait!!! Verizon has a Global phone! You may not have a choice but they offer one that works!

In a lot of markets Sprint and Nextel have HORRIBLE reception and coverage. Where Verizon provides service in those areas. There is a good reason why Verizon was number 1 for so long until Cingular and AT&T merged and have not that many more customers. And it WAS NOT abou...
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I think VZW is the best wireless provider in America, but the new merger SPRINT-NEXTEL would be a dangerous competitor now.

Because people are stupid and will believe anything they see on the television.

For me CDMA PPT network IS BETTER than iDEN.
CDMA has more devices with modern features that combine PTT service with WAP, BREW, MMS, SMS, JAVA, BT, IR-DA.
iDEN network doesn't have this services, or they are recently deploying them. The only good phone from Nextel is the Motorola i860, all the other phones sucks.

what bt devices does cdma have? i would't even think of calling the v710 a bt capable phone with it's seriously crippled implementation...

Sony Ericsson T608, LG 325, and Motorola V710

the t608 is the only real bt phone. both the 325 and v710 are crippled. if you can only use the bluetooth to connect to a headset then there really isn't much point in calling it a bluetooth phone. might as well call it a wireless headset capable phone instead.

the only one crippled is the v710.

good, it's nice to see that sprint doesn't do the same to bluetooth as verizon.

It was consolidation of a whole of smaller companies so they started on top. They didnt start from "the ground up" like sprint.

very true.

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VZW2003 said:
sprint and nextel have the worst service right next to cingular & t-mobile

Personally, I've been using T-Mobile's network since 1996 and haven't ever felt any desire to switch. Somehow, I don't agree that out of 5 national carriers, 4 have the worst service. They all have many millions of customers, so they obviously must be doing something right.

Oh, they are. There are a lot of misinformed folks on these boards.

you obviously dont travel much. and i would say however that if it works for you the thats great and stay with em. but theyre network is not suitable for the avid traveler. people continue to tell thier stories of great and bad coverage in thier area but its not the local that most are talking about and nationwide sprints free and clear america has the largest and best coverage. again i say that if you liek it keep it, they do give the most minutes for the dollar

It's a fact they all suck,you just have to find the one that sucks the least and run with it. Every body has different need's and wants but mostly consumers want a product that's not going to let them down in a pinch. Personally I have had Verizon and found them to be horrible and switched to Sprint and I think its a great and smart move on Nextels and Sprints part. All the other companies need to watch out for them. Good job Sprint Nextel (name needs some work though)

all true except coverage sprints free and clear america is the largest, you get sprint, verizon, and other contracted companies tha verizon has no access to. plus with verizon you cant get entire nation free roaming....just americas choice that still has alot of rural roaming.

Re: What it all means...

by endthebs Friday, 4:03 AM



have you used ready link? in most areas its not that much slower than nextel as welll as qchat new platform for CDMA that will keep the same....verizon is much slower.......with sprint free and clear america you can use sprint, VERIZON, AND i say AND some contracted carriers that VERIZON cant have access to AND pay no raoming nation wide. verizon doesnt compete...call quality is the same they both use the same system. so i say why switch??????? its the uneducated people like you that have no clue that get the uninformed into contracts they wish they didnt have.

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Sprint was voted Best network in the West by JD Power And Associates, Verizon was second and T-Mobile 3rd. This doesn't sound like crummy service to me.
Sprint's network in the West is not as big as Verizon's or Cingular's, but its customers say it is better.

it is bigger with the america plan. as well as at&t leasing thier towers o yeah quest as well, humm why would people want to use sprints nextwork opposed to someone elses or thier own if it sucked, lol it just shows the ignorance of people that WANNABE the know all of wireless on this site.

lol gsm sound quality its the worst everyone knows this. cdma is the best sounding....ill give you that in SOME markets or areas sprint may have a lack of coverage......this is what would cause the problems your talking about. but overall it is greatly better than the others. i've used all carriers except verizon and nextel all over the country and i can tell you that sprint worked the best overall. including driving from indianapolis, in to california through i70 one time, i80 once, and i44/40 another.

😕 😕 😕 So we pick a carrier base on how cool the phone looks..ohh ok Then i guess i should change from VZW to smallr service and covrage area because my phone its the coolest out there..Im happy when i make calls and people asked can they us my lame phone because there cool phone doesnt get a signl.. 🤣 U guys kill me a cool phone ....get a great service people and no i dont work for VZW...

actually i have GSM and find that it works really good. I only had to borrow someone elses phone once because we were across country and didnt want to pay roaming.

again another person who doesnt get out much.....tell me ahta happens when you dont have coverage????? people cant leave voicemails, humm that sounds great. if it works for you great but dont misslead the public into thinking that gsm is ok to use for a traveler because plain and simple its not

actually my friend i am insulted. I live in Saskatchewan(lot of you peope have problems spelling it). It is one big flat province. Now according to my coverage map i Have very little service and their is only one GSM company once you leave the city and ive gotten no problems in This province and North Dakota with receptions which are supposted to be some of the worst spots for GSM and i will admit there are places where i had no service, but neither did CDMA. But this is area dependant and it is only because so and so didnt build towers in said spot. There is a reason that AT&T was number one in ME, because there was no verizon. ANd the same works vice versa in alot of other areas so its mainly the companies cutting corners

you show your lack of intellegence again.......we were talking about the u.s. not canada....sprints plan with free and clear america actually uses cdma and analog which in some areas actually works better than gsm. if coverage exists in the U.S. then the phone will work. gsm has no footprint in an area that has no other coverage. i mean really canada isnt important. if you only have north dakota and canada as your experience then you have not nearly enough knowledge to speak.

And you can confidently say you are intelligent? How is Canada not important? If you don't realize that Canadian coverage is important to millions of customers, "then you have not nearly enough knowledge to speak".

P.S. Don't degrade the personal experiences that people offer on here. They know what they're talking about...from personal experience. They might not be able to speak for everyone, but at least for a portion of people. Anyway, I'm sure you don't appreciate it when people degrade your personal experiences.

im a grown man making a killing in the wireless industry. i dont get offended...i just hate people that are misinformed on forums like these causeing so much havic for people looking for advice. it sucks to be in a two yr contract you thought was great because of bad advice......canada is important to canadian cell companys........sprint-nextel as the forum was discussing however doesnt matter. givin info about canada when comparing u.s. companys miss leads the public. maybe gsm is awesome there but in the u.s. it sucks. try using it here in california around the santa barbara area or the bay area or between fresno and these areas o not to metion in indiana rural areas or if you are driving cross country...trust me i used to sell all carrie...
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The biggest flaw with GSM is that very few US carriers use it. The majority have decided on CDMA. GSM has been in the USA since 1995 when T-Mobile (formerly Voicestream)and Sprint PCS (nw a CDMA carrier) implemented it.
Cingyular and ATTWS only brought it in in the last 3 years so it is not built out nearly so well as CDMA.
GSM is only a stepping stone, not a landing point. GSM is only installed to allow the carriers who chose UMTS to implement it smoothly. Since only 2 of the major carriers are using UMTS it probably will not catch on here.

That statement makes no sense... GSM is not as built up as CDMA... Not by much in the long run... If you are comparing apples to oranges in coverage maps- yes Verizon has a slightly larger coverage area than Cingular does, but that is including the analog roaming that is available. Which upon doing your "homework" Cingular does have an option for analog roaming, granted it is not the most appealing phone, but if you are traveling in the areas where is it necessary to have analog, you don't care. Also UMTS will be available in the US, it may take a little while, but I would say that with in the next 2 1/2 to 3 years it will be here. Your statement includes two of the larger carriers, but only (soon to be) two large carriers will be on CDMA...
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My statement about GSM not being as built out as CDMA was not a knock, merely the point that it has not had the time to have as large a footprint as CDMA. Obviously you are either a Cingular customer or employee, you guys are alaways marching in lock-step. Nobody cares if the signal is analog or digital if they can make an emergency call in the back country. The fact that CDMA is bacwards compatible to analog is actually a great advantage. GSM is not compatible with anything but itself and in rural markets that can be a problem. In most of Oregon GSM phones are paperweights while there is CDMA signal over most of the state by either Verizon, USCC or Sprint. There is only analog in very few places. Remember that digital is not as great over d...
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ACtually i will honestly say that the multiband GSM analog phones are discontined in most areas and Cingular/AT&T block the analog capabilitie once you move off a multiband plan so this is a spot where CDMA shines. Actually i will honestly say the only reason i have GSM is so that i can use it in Europe and so that i have access to more than just the crappy phones avaialble through my provider. I would probably like CDMA better if i could do these very things because in terms of coverage they are about even (except in some special circumstances) and if you read my prior post i speaking about both US and Canada and cant wait to try it out in New York next summer.

On another note as a bit of a funny story i ordered a siemens sl56 from att wireless off ebay and automatically i service went to crap. I had dropped calls galore and people couln't understand a word i said. SO im back to my siemens m55 which works awesome. I just found it ironic.

cingular offers analog only in a few select markets its gait and my homework is done again an unknowlegable person speaking come on get this right for once. it still is smaller than verizon and sprints free and clear america which is the largest. most of the u.s. doesnt have this option. as well cingular has stated that they will be eliminating gait in most markets this year. so please get the full spectrum of info not just your hometown.

So you're allowed to speak from personal experience and make the decision that "GSM sucks" for everyone? No. I'm not going to degrade your opinion because I disagree with you. You're entitled to your opinion. But your opinion is not factual information and personal experience is opinion so how can ANYBODY'S be wrong? When somebody on here made the statement that GSM was the best or Canada is important, it was from personal experience and their opinion. Tell me how that's wrong, and tell me why you're allowed to make the decisions for everyone that reads things here, but nobody else is. GSM is obviously the best, and Canada is obviously important according to him.

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lol again the ignorant, i have traveled by car across this country many times my friend. allover i have used most of all the carriers. its not opinion its fact. overall gsm sucks. its great for a market here or there but not for travel. the old voicestream idea was the best use for gsm. on city or market lots of minutes. not for travel. this is fact. biased ofcourse i know that facts that would create bias, but by real knowledge not a opinionated garble from someone whos obviously again hasnt been out there to know

Who hasn't been out there to know? Who is ignorant?

Biggest question of them all. Who is a hypocrite?

You stated on here yourself, that misinformation on a site like this sucks. So why do you spew it in every post on this forum?

You cannot say "GSM sucks" and not be spewing misinformation, because GSM doesn't suck. Neither does CDMA. Just remember that CDMA won't be the best choice for everyone who reads here, and neither will GSM. Both technologies are wonderful, but it all greatly depends on how you're going to use them.

It's obvious that you are being blantantly biased toward GSM technology which is giving first time readers on this forum a false sense of the industry.

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endthebs said:
......canada is important to canadian cell companys........

The statement in my post was in reference to the millions of U.S CUSTOMERS who rely on roaming agreements in Canada.

How hard is it to not degrade somebody else's post? Really?

Since when is sucks a quantitative term? I always thought it was a descriptive term having to do with a vacuum action.
So if all you can say is Verizon sucks you are merely stating an opinion which you are welcome to but please give us facts and figures to support it. Then we will give your posts more credibility.

I think he said something about the terrible quality of the phones from VZW.

Cingular didn't have a merger with ATTW.
They buy out ATT

AT&T is going to offer wireless services again as a mobile virtual network operator using Sprint's CDMA network.

say what!

Verizon doesn't suck as you said. It is a very good wireless carriers as cingular, they don't have cooler phones but are better than cingular in coverage, call quality, and modern services.

Dude!!! You seriously need to take an english class!!! It hurts me to read your posts

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I'm sorry but I wasn't born in US.

Well in that case I apologize!!! It makes me happy to see someone actually trying to speak our language instead trying to get out of things byy saying "no speaka english". On behalf of all Americans I say thank you for speaking english.

no, you don't have to apologize, it's my fault, I will improve my english, I hope so. 😁

Well that post was a lot better already. Just use periods where you put the commas. 🙂

people will be givin phones not buy them as well improved service and lower prices for nextel. they have amillion more benifits then losses.

no way dude...verizon does suck...they have lame phones, high prices, and there call quality isn't all that.. Cingular has better call quality atleast in my area..

I have great call quality with Cingular
and a great selection of phones.

Are you smoking crack myman!! crawl out from under your bed and join the real world bro. The lg 6100 isn't a cool phone braw..

OK I agree that Sprints CDMA PTT is not as fast or as developed as Nextels iDEN PTT but its pretty close and will get better. Remember that Sprint is launching its next generation CDMA EV-DO network this coming year which means data speeds of up to 2.4 Mbps. ReadyLink (Sprints PTT) works through the Data spectrum. With an improved network with higher speeds Sprint can drastically reduce lag time of CDMA PTT making in just as fast as Nextel. Nextel was already planning on switching to CDMA since iDEN is not a global standard and if they wanted to offer better data services and features that there business consumers are looking for they needed to change. That is why they invested in Qchat which I believe as a result of the merger Sprint will n...
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Actually, from the information that I have heard up until this morning iDEN will not be forgotten at least until EV-DO is fully released. I got information this morning regarding Motorola making phones that supported CDMA for the voice and data portion while also handling iDEN for the PTT function of the phones. How interesting would this be?

It would be interesting, but at the same time the cost of the phones will sky-rocket. The CDMA technology is already more expensive to manufacture the software. Once you make a phone like the GAIT phone (TDMA & GSM) or a phone on CDMA and GSM, it drives the cost of the phone to manufacture way up. In return, you as a consumer will see this with expensive phones.

I doubt they will have manufacturers make a phone that will do both considering they want everyone on CDMA anyway.

I agree. Depending on how long it is going to take Sprint to convert everyone to CDMA including the towers may depend on whether they choose to offer something like a GAIT phone like Cingular and AT&T offered when changing there networks from TDMA to GSM. Sprint wants everyone on CDMA and Nextel wants to merge with Sprint because it wants to upgrade to CDMA and Sprint is already CDMA. I think they will work agressively to upgrade everyone to CDMA. It just depends on how long it takes to get everyone transitioned. Cingular and AT&T offered GAIT and for what, the phones had so many problems and they upgraded their towers faster than expected. I expect it to be the same with Sprint. I didn't say iDEN would be forgotten now but down the road in ...
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remember that most areas that nextel has are allready covered by sprint the only need to increase capasity. nextel had to give up spectrum to the gov and were switching to cdma allready as well as they were givin a bunch of spectrum from the fcc in return for them taking the other away sprint wants the spectrum for 3g thats the basis of the merger 3g in the future. a migration would be easy as i said sprint allready covers most of the areas. qchat with be used soon and iden is about as gone as analog

I don't think so 😲 . There are many regional carriers that are able to compete against the big 3. In my experiance with wp, the regionals always do better than any national company as far as coverage and signal. Oh by the way, verizon sucks in Minnesota 😲.

the big three really compete against each other anyways...people should know this.....the competition will stay very simular now...llok at the plans sprint and verizon simular before the merger cingular and att, but sprint and verizon to cingular you get more minutes on the lower plans with cingular but of course you give up data and coverage superiority for the price break.