Apple Sued Over Location-Tracking Scuttlebutt
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Iphone 3gs gets text and phone works but No INTERNET
I unlocked the phone in april and have the latest os and use an at&t sim that has worked for four months and use the straight talk service from walmart. I could use wifi no problem but outside of that it has a message of unable to connect to server. I went to network under settings and it shows vpn not apn. Does that mean that at&t sent an update that locked the phone again? I went to unlockit.co.nz and like the first time thought after I deleted the old info and added the new apn info it would work but no luck. Any thoughts or suggestions? I am a non techie so if you can explain in a simple way that would be great! Thank you!
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Is the 3GS still relevant?
Like, does it still work and will it still be great in a few years if I buy one now?
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Iphone 3GS Can you use it with "Straight talk"
Is there a way to use the 3gs iphone with straight talk which is 45 dollars or everything which is run through walmart. If so how would you go about it do you need some sort of hardware ie sim card and from who? at what cost? A software update or fix to change the carrier from at&t to straight talk? Will the speed go down because of it being a different network or is it the same type of network? Thank you.
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Email help
Today, my Yahoo email was hacked. I logged in and changed my pw and since then, when I go to Mail on my phone under settings, several options are grayed out (the first 4). Any idea how this happened or how I can get it fixed?
The Android defense
I wonder if it'll work in court lol. "But your honor, Android does it too..." Good luck apple. As usual, they make excuses that have no merit and don't make any difference regarding their disrespect for customer privacy. Every time they cry about what other companies do, it makes them seem just like everybody else...
Where and when in this case did Apple say, "Android does it too?" That is what the editor said in the article not an apple spokesperson. So where are you coming up with this make belief? 🤣
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I wonder if it'll work in court lol. "But your honor, Android does it too..." Good luck apple. As usual, they make excuses that have no merit and don't make any difference regarding their disrespect for customer p
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I think the difference is what is being done with the data.
The iPhone stores the data locally, on the phone itself and on the users computer when it is synced. Nothing is sent back to Apple, no one has access to the data but the user (and anyone the user has given permission to use his/her phone/computer)
Google tracks user location, has it sent back to them and stores it for a period of time. They use the location database to make more money in advertising.
I don't know why the iPhone stores user data, but it doesn't appear to be stored by Apple or used by them in any way whatsoever.
This does not warrant a lawsuit.
Google tracks user location, has it sent back to them and stores it for a period of time. They use the location database to make more money in advertising.
I don't know why the iPhone stores user data, but it doesn't appear to be stored by Apple or used by them in any way whatsoever.
This does not warrant a lawsuit.
Stirring the pot...
I'd be happy to play Devil's Advocate on this one.
OK, we all know location based services aren't free; data is acquired and sold for market analysis and ultimately creates the revenue streams that pay for this cool stuff.
As I understand it, the difference between what Apple has done vs. Google is that Google uploads data to its servers directly. Other than cookies in your browser or maybe an encrypted cache on your phone (depending on how you’ve set it up) that's pretty much it. It pushes data so far upstream that you basically become a face in a huge crowd - sort of a ‘safety in numbers thing’. Sure someone can analyze your habits, purchases etc. but that’s pretty far outside access by any one individual. It would...
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OK, we all know location based services aren't free; data is acquired and sold for market analysis and ultimately creates the revenue streams that pay for this cool stuff.
As I understand it, the difference between what Apple has done vs. Google is that Google uploads data to its servers directly. Other than cookies in your browser or maybe an encrypted cache on your phone (depending on how you’ve set it up) that's pretty much it. It pushes data so far upstream that you basically become a face in a huge crowd - sort of a ‘safety in numbers thing’. Sure someone can analyze your habits, purchases etc. but that’s pretty far outside access by any one individual. It would...
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The issue is:
a) They're unsecured caches of user location in long-term storage on the device.
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b) There is no option to opt out of said data collection.
Gladly, for the Android fan like myself, Google has not stepped into either one ...
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a) They're unsecured caches of user location in long-term storage on the device.
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b) There is no option to opt out of said data collection.
Gladly, for the Android fan like myself, Google has not stepped into either one ...
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Figures
Ya there are privacy issues with apple doing this, but i just think these guys just found a quick way to make some money. This country is full of sue happy people.
Yep. The worst part is that the courts allow it. It's not the most legal thing to do but people jumping on it like that. I'm suprised it took this long
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It clearly stated in the T&C. And all the millions of agency's that tried to make something out of this have all reported that none of the information is going back to apple, its only stored on the phone which you can encrypt. This is crazy ppl are so...
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Do you have something against money? More than likely the Feds will keep all the money they fine apple and google for themselves anyway. "You can't track private citizens without their knowledge...that's OUR job"
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The phone is not being tracked if its tracks itself. If information is not being shared, then what?
I do not care to much for this, I have an android, track it all you want. Who gets the information, the government, some stupid add company's?
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I do not care to much for this, I have an android, track it all you want. Who gets the information, the government, some stupid add company's?
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Maybe you should? You could get rich... Maybe or waste a lot of money on court and lawyer fee's just to lose 🙄
The only thing that is interesting....
is the fact that the Headline uses the word Scuttlebutt. 🤣
kudos for eric for having a thesaurus
I didn't really think about it until you mentioned it, but now everytime I open up the homepage I giggle.
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Vibrate button
Here lately, I've noticed my phone vibrating in my pocket. So, thinking I'm getting a text or call, I take it out of my pocket to check. No messages or calls. Then, I noticed that I can barely touch the vibrate button on the side and the vibration goes on and off repeatedly, even while it's still in the down position (turned off). Is the button damaged, or is there something else I can do to fix it?
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Saving apps after an HD Wipe
So, a while ago, I wiped my HD disc clean. It was catastrophic failure mode, and needed to give it a good scrubbing... I didn't really have a whole lot of "Gee, I should save this" time before it happened.
Thus, everything that's on my Iphone is more or less an orphan. There's no files on my computer whatsoever. I had to redownload Itunes, so there's no memory whatsoever of anything essentially.
The music is one thing, if that can't be salvaged, so be it. I had that backed up elsewhere, and although it would be a pain in the butt to re-sync, there's like 2000 songs on there that I never listen to that could use a good purge anyway.
But my apps... I really have no desire to lose everything saved on them. That would make me cry.
So...
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Thus, everything that's on my Iphone is more or less an orphan. There's no files on my computer whatsoever. I had to redownload Itunes, so there's no memory whatsoever of anything essentially.
The music is one thing, if that can't be salvaged, so be it. I had that backed up elsewhere, and although it would be a pain in the butt to re-sync, there's like 2000 songs on there that I never listen to that could use a good purge anyway.
But my apps... I really have no desire to lose everything saved on them. That would make me cry.
So...
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SWYPE FOR 3GS
Does anyone know if swype is available for the Iphone 3gs? I love it on my work phone but want to know if I can get it on my iphone. Thanks!
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may sound stupid but a simple question
How do you open an iphone 3gs?
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I feel like a retard. lol.
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I feel like a retard. lol.
hahah not a retard, just somewhat lazy. i recommend that you search through the videos of youtube teaching how to open an iphone and you can also ask help from mr. google for sites which could help you in opening up your iphone. hth!
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Time to upgrade. Wanting to buy the 3gs, but I don't want to change my data plan. Any sugestions?
As of right now, I am currently using a Pantech Matrix Pro. Before that, I was using a Blackjack II. My current data plan is unlimited messaging and unlimited internet usage. Can I carry this over to the 3gs? I don't want to shell out the $30 "Apple" plan. Do any iPhone users out there have any advice or stories that could help me?
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Alarm when phone is off
Does the 3gs and eventually 4g have an alarm that will sound if the phone is off? I have had Blackberries and they do.
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Anyone know when the release date is for the new 4.0 update??
Alright... I know there are a lot of people in these forums that work at various cellphone service retailers and have got the inside scoop on a lot of confidential info....
Does anyone know when is the ETA for the new 4.0 update? Also, the online rumor mill has been going crazy with "leaked" images and info of a new iphone 4G.... I'm sure that Apple will release a new iPhone sometime soon since they have released one every year since the original when they release the new updates. Does anyone know when the new iPhone will be on the market? I've heard rumors that Verizon is getting the iphone, but then I've heard that they need to work on their system before bringing the iphone to their line up. All I'm hearing are "rumors" and would ...
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Does anyone know when is the ETA for the new 4.0 update? Also, the online rumor mill has been going crazy with "leaked" images and info of a new iphone 4G.... I'm sure that Apple will release a new iPhone sometime soon since they have released one every year since the original when they release the new updates. Does anyone know when the new iPhone will be on the market? I've heard rumors that Verizon is getting the iphone, but then I've heard that they need to work on their system before bringing the iphone to their line up. All I'm hearing are "rumors" and would ...
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we will find out June 7th
Yeah, I finally saw online where the Apple WWDC is coming June 7-11 and I expect they'll unveil a new iPhone as well. I can't wait to see!!
The iPhone 4.0 Software release date has not yet been confirmed, only info we have is "will be available this summer".
For more info go to
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/preview-iphone-os/ »
For more info go to
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/preview-iphone-os/ »
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Turning off an Iphone without using the top button? Possible?
Basically, the top button on my iphone (which locks and turns on/off the phone) has ceased to work a few weeks ago. Restore done and nothing doing...
Is there a way to turn my iphone off that doesn't require using that button? I'd like to reboot the thing, as it's been searching for a signal for the last hour, but I'm not sure I can without simply draining the battery...
If anybody has any ideas, let me know. :-)
Is there a way to turn my iphone off that doesn't require using that button? I'd like to reboot the thing, as it's been searching for a signal for the last hour, but I'm not sure I can without simply draining the battery...
If anybody has any ideas, let me know. :-)
you can let the battery die... 😕
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iPhone for GPS and Traffic?
iPhone good for GPS and Traffic
or dedicated device like a Garmin?
Also, can you speak an address and have the GPS display the location?
Thanks!
or dedicated device like a Garmin?
Also, can you speak an address and have the GPS display the location?
Thanks!
