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Verizon to Open Access to Apps and Devices Next Year

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Nov 30, 2007, 10:19 AM

What's Verizon's goal in doing this?

If their goal is enlarging their customer base, then they're going about it the wrong way. When a customer starts new service, they (usually) want a new phone. They don't want to reactivate the phone they got three years ago when they signed up with Sprint. Not only that, but VZW's phone prices will skyrocket for new customers. I just don't understand where VZW's going with this.
2 things -

Lawsuit prevention - especially with a high profile company like Apple due to them locking the iphone. Although Apple may win the suit, they have to divert a lot of resources into winning it, a lot of resources that can be rediverted to...

Nov 27, 2007, 1:05 PM

does this mean...

does this mean i can go to sprint and buy a phone with full retail and have it unlocked and use on verizon network?

i know that sprint will unlock your phone when you cancel your services and such.

The short answer is no.

If have the right codes and Sprint gives you the MSL (which they are supposed to start doing) then you can do that already. Verizon doesn't have the same ESN checks in their activation process that Sprint has.

But of cour...
i think it means that if want the Helios Ocean on VZW, its gotta have a certified for verizon sticker on it... much like apps that are used for multiple OS's..
So it wont work with Sprint
(Dont care for them anyway) Would it work on Tmobile or AT&T?

Nov 27, 2007, 9:10 AM

A day late and a dollar short

if this is truly their intention, they wouldn't have chosen CDMA. i don't see a big enough demand for unlocked CDMA devices to warrant manufacturers to actually make anything compelling.

On the s/w side, isn't that what smartphones are for? show me a cdma symbian phone and i'll eat my words ๐Ÿคฃ
but in the future, VZW will be using LTE, which will also be used by ATT.

see where this gets interesting?

not defending VZW or anything
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. I only wonder how much louder your b*^ching would be if they stuck with a closed system for years to come.

Don't like closed CDMA devices? Go get an iphone ๐Ÿคฃ
Please. Intentions to have an open network had nothing to do with their decision to use CDMA. When they went with CDMA, bringing a handset over to another carrier was not even on the far horizon. What Verizon is doing now is just smart business bas...

Nov 27, 2007, 11:09 AM

The missed point

I see several posts already that are completely missing the point.

Verizon is opening their network because they have to, not because they want to. This was bound to happen because of the various lawsuits against other carriers who would not willingly unlock their phones, or allow others to place and unlocked phone on their network. This is an attempt by Verizon to avoid those lawsuits and maintain a modicum of control or influence over the handset vendors in the future.

Does this bode well for the consumer? Absolutely.
I totally agree. This is a great thing for Verizon customers or people thinking of switching to Verizon. I have only ever been with one other phone company but i've known people who have been with the other big ones like cingular, sprint, etc. I switc...
I totally agree. I think the open access for apps is the largest plus. BREW is garbage and this remedies that but it also states "they approve". So they are still going to heavily influence everything but this is a step in the right direction and t...

Nov 28, 2007, 1:46 PM

hahahah that will never happen

we all know this will not happen on the bush verizon network!! lol ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ they was just think out loud that it ๐Ÿ˜›
Before you make an absurdly ridiculous political statement (or should I say political fragment due to your lack of structure?), please correct your grammar, and make your post a little bit more educated. Then you can make an intelligent comment on thi...

Nov 27, 2007, 10:27 AM


So will that E816 I bought when Amp'd died finally be allowed on Verizon again now? That might make this worth it ๐Ÿ˜ณ
You can probably activate the e816 on Verizon now. The ESN was already loaded into the System as Amp'd used VZW's network.

Nov 27, 2007, 5:52 PM

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Nov 28, 2007, 5:11 AM

Big Whoop

All these recent announcements seem like smoke and mirrors. It's like the carriers are trying to fool people into thinking they're actually doing something good for consumers. Sprint recently announced (after being dragged to court) that customers can unlock their phones after they fulfill they're contract requirements. Umm, wow, welcome to the softer side of Spring. This zipped around the web like it was something amazing despite the fact that T-Mobile and even AT&T have been unlocking phones after 90 days for qutie sometime.

Now Verizon says you can use any phone that meets their requirements. Wow, someone release the doves already!

Is Verizon's announcement even newsworthy? You can already use any unlocked GSM phone on AT&T and T-...

Nov 27, 2007, 9:07 AM

Yeeeeaaahhh.... Riiiight

This isn't April Fool's right?

Verizon is the last carrier I would expect to do this.

1) they dont have a whole lot of spectrum in comparison to Sprint, which is why we see the 5 GB data caps and no Streaming of Videos/File Sharing allowed

2) Their $20 mil test lab probably wont be free. Expect a fee to activate your Sprint Sanyo M1 on Verizon or some other FCC approved device.

3) They were fighting this open access rule in the up coming 700Mhz spectrum auction this Jan. They must have something up their sleeve. I know they probably want all the spectrum in the auction as it seem very valuable. Open access and Emergency Responder in particular.

4) They are not part of Google's Open Access ....yet.
I just want that google OS...that should be pretty cool!
You do have a point, there probably will be a fee to get you phone converted over. But its no different than if I took a sprint phone to a wireless store (not particular carrier) have them unlock the phone (if they have the equipment) then lock it to ...

Nov 27, 2007, 12:00 PM

I doubt the cost of testing will be on the consumer

Manufacturers looking to have their phones available for all CDMA carriers would probably pay to have it VZW certified so that people would buy more of them and use them on vzw/sprint etc.

Nov 27, 2007, 11:48 AM

The key to this is the nationwide plans

now that they're charging for data by the MB, you can use any device you want!

it was always about the price plan, folks. interesting the media is missing this one

Nov 27, 2007, 10:19 AM

It's official!!

If verizon follows through with this they're the best carrier in wireless!! Open access with the best Network! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
I almost wouldnt call it truly open as they said it still has to pass certain basic standards and what not, but its too early to tell and a little early to start rejoicing. But nonetheless it is a good step in the right direction.
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