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Verizon is so hypocritical

cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:32 AM
How does Verizon welcome the Iphone to their network when they've done nothing but blast it for years? This is so stupid. And the media seems to have forgotten "Droid Does" This is why I hate the big cell phone companies. They are all money hoarding hypocrites. Plus, CDMA only. This thing is going to suck.
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Rich Brome

Jan 11, 2011, 11:40 AM
It's not religion; it's business. They're not being hypocritical; they're being smart.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:45 AM
Business is full of lying and deception. Makes me sick.
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Daniel Dc5

Jan 11, 2011, 11:57 AM
All of the people posting right now are making me sick of how stupid yall sound. Droid will continue to do and this is the ultimate test to see how DROID can keep up with the Iphone and beat it like it has. ATT has both the iphone and Droid and no one says crap about that huh? You should know your facts before you sound like a hypocrite yourself.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 12:00 PM
I agree. I think Android is maturing faster than iOS. If I ever get a smart phone again, it will most likely be an Android phone.
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JeffroPuff

Jan 11, 2011, 7:09 PM
You know what makes me sick of how stupid people can sound? It's called Android. Not "Droid". Someone also mentioned on another post, but your hotheaded comment begs it be repeated.
I can tell you a FACT. In my AT&T stores, in the past 6 months, we've sold 2.58 Android phones for every iPhone sold. That's a fact. And yes, I did just pull that report just for you. Now you can sleep tonight knowing you're a special lad. Goodnight, sweet prince.
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:30 AM
The Androids that AT&T has are a laughing joke!!!! The Motorola Backflip & Flipout. The Galazy S for AT&T is the closest thing to an attractive Android smartphone, other than that one every other Android on AT&T is a laughing joke!!!

That is why I left AT&T back in March of last year, I wanted a real Android smartphone.
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Menno

Jan 11, 2011, 10:30 PM
Or maybe you're around the wrong people?

Please tell me any industry that doesn't have bad eggs?

And if businesses have to lie to make sales, it's because that's what consumers demanded.

If you hate the way businesses are, fix consumers. Because a business will do what makes it money, and according to you, consumers are currently rewarding dishonesty. Don't blaime the effect when you know the cause.
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insider.

Jan 11, 2011, 11:46 AM
how so? (i do agree its a smart move, just answering your question)

"droid does". "map for that" ??
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tmorep03

Jan 11, 2011, 11:48 AM
Honestly i still would rather have a andriod phone over the iphone
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mkl4466

Jan 11, 2011, 11:58 AM
There's a map for that didn't bash the iPhone at all, it was purely a comparison of high speed network, which allows one to take advantage of all the capabilities of a smart phone, either droid or iPhone. Now that the iPhone will be on verizon, the things it can do are more widely available, since there's more high speed network coverage area to access.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 12:01 PM
except be on the internet and make calls at the same timehttp://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.ph p?fm=m&ff=7307&fi=2624462#
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:45 PM
Touche'!
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:36 AM
So did you sign up to pre-order your Vzn Iphone already?
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fahrende

Jan 11, 2011, 11:47 AM
I don't understand people who get so offended at business decisions. If one does not like something, one does not have to purchase it.

It's not like these companies put a gun(or the proverbial gun by using some other means of "force") to the back of the consumer's head and said, "buy or we'll shoot."

Consumers have more power than they realize.

It's that simple.
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:47 PM
It's not consumers complaining. These are partisans.
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fahrende

Jan 11, 2011, 4:00 PM
Partisans. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Redrum69

Jan 12, 2011, 11:15 AM
I'm excited to see what these cell carrier forums will be arguing about in the future. Att and Verizon will both have very closely the same line up and network capabilities in a couple years. Ok I can't wait any longer. Heres a quick glimpse of the future, but I have to be careful, I don't want to alter anyones future... "My apple is slightly darker than your apple and that makes it better because the commercial told me so! Don't believe me? Look out back you'll see my Delorean converting trash to gigawatts near the dumpster. Laughing
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:40 AM
"Partisans"??? You make it sound like it's political!
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JeffdaBeat

Jan 11, 2011, 11:47 AM
Verizon never dissed the iPhone. In fact, I think no one has ever dissed the iPhone itself. It's always mocking AT&T.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:48 AM
What do you call the "Droid Does" campaign then?
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WynneFox

Jan 11, 2011, 11:52 AM
Slanted market education to show that the iPhone is not the be all and end all of smart phones.

I myself still prefer the Android OS. Only benefit the iPhone OS would give me is the ability to watch certain movies and audio books from iTunes which the lack of such is not a deal breaker for me.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:57 AM
I like both but I'm starting to feel that Steve Jobs is an egotistical prick who I don't think I want to support financially anymore.
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:48 PM
What did Stevie do to you?
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Menno

Jan 12, 2011, 12:35 PM
He wants me to pay an additional .30 for every song I downloaded from itunes in order to get them DRM free even though I alread paid .99 PER SONG to download them already.
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:44 AM
Ah, Menno always has a good response! What about AmazonMp3? Itunes songs can be d/l from there. Are songs DRM-free from AmazonMp3?
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Menno

Jan 13, 2011, 12:41 PM
amazonmp3 is DRM free, which is why I use it exclusively now.

But still the fact remains that I have hundreds of dollars in songs that are locked to itunes DRM unless I resort to cracking it (which is still technically illegal) or pay MORE money to get music I already own.
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mkl4466

Jan 11, 2011, 12:22 PM
The droid does campaign did point out certain capabilities the iPhone lacked at the time, specifically multi tasking. The newer iOS software update has now added that capability. The same things that droids can do that the iphone can't do, it could be said that all of verizon's non-pda devices also can't do. So was the droid does ad campaign "bashing" regular feature phones? I don't think anyone's ever made that argument. Verizon still sells regular feature phones, so adding the iPhone to the lineup is just that, an addition to give customers more choice.

That being said, I'm not Apple's biggest fan. I don't own any Apple devices, and I've done my best to convince people to choose their carrier first, and device second. I understand that ...
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:50 PM
still has Torch exclusivity!
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:51 AM
Ooohhh the Torch how exciting Confused

Blackberry isn't stupid like Apple with 5yr exclusives. The Torch will be out of exclusivity soon enough.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:51 AM
I have family who used to work for Verizon customer support, they mocked the Iphone big time.
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:55 PM
Of course. Any idea how helpless one feels when a customer calls in to cancel because they want an iphone? I know exactly how it feels AND the calls are recorded so one has to make those futile save attempts which more times than not just makes the disconnecting customer angry.
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JeffroPuff

Jan 11, 2011, 11:51 AM
Really, Jeff? I seem to remember something about "Droid Does" not too long ago...
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tnt2k1

Jan 11, 2011, 11:55 AM
I hope you will never ever be a C-Level executive ...you would bankrupt that company instantly.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 11:58 AM
I hate the dishonesty in 99% of business today(especially big business), so I will never work in that field.
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tnt2k1

Jan 11, 2011, 12:08 PM
it's not dishonesty. it's called making adjustments based on more information. that's the difference between progressive organizations and stagnant organizations. That's why the NFL is doing so well while the MLB is losing out, because the NFL is progressive and the MLB "sticks with tradition."

I'm pretty sure your beliefs changed as you get older. historically, young liberals become old conservatives as they have more income and have a family to take care of.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 12:11 PM
Being encouraged to mask the truth from your customers is dishonesty(experience from working sales in the wireless industry)
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tnt2k1

Jan 11, 2011, 12:13 PM
I was a VZW rep for 3.5 years and a Sprint rep for 1.5 years. If you have to be dishonest with sales and marketing, then that's wrong. I know with my experience working for each company, we were trained not to be dishonest but to provide pros and cons in order to increase sales. Unfortunately, there are a lot of dishonest sales/marketing people out there, which is why they don't last that long in the industry.
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 12:19 PM
I was honest and I hated selling. The guys who told half truths were the ones praised and rewarded. Our tech training encouraged us to steer people away from concerns rather than address them. It was all about which phones could bring in the most revenue with extra service, not which phone fit the customer's usage patterns best.
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Overmann

Jan 11, 2011, 1:47 PM
Depends on which one you were listening to. Business owners prefer to BS, Verizon prefers you don't. It helps if you know everything about what you are selling so you can drive customers to the proper devices they are looking for.
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Menno

Jan 12, 2011, 6:43 PM
Do you know how many times I had a customer come in insiting they just needed a "Phone for a phone" and I showed them how a smartphone would make their life better? Quite a few.

Do you know how many customers think I ripped them off? or the number of customers who don't USE the features they're paying for? No one but the oddball here or there who uses the features but wants them for free.

Customers might come into your store wanting the simplest phone possible, and that phone might fit their current usage pattern, but part of my job is to show why they might want to use their phone for MORE. This doesn't make me shady, it makes me damn good at my job, and my customers appreciate it.
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crammy1

Jan 13, 2011, 12:12 AM
so true..cause that way the company earns more..you possible get more commissions, and the customer gets to use his phone for more than just call and text...because thats what tech is for(or atleast most of it), to make our lives better...that doesnt make you evil cause at the end of the day, once you give them a basic phone and they learned from their neighbor that they could actually do something more like say check google for the cheapest price for milk nearby and find out their phone doesnt have it or does it but sucks at it they'll be much more dissappointed.
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Dizzle1

Jan 12, 2011, 9:15 AM
cwc24 said:
Being encouraged to mask the truth from your customers is dishonesty(experience from working sales in the wireless industry)

CWC24...Just curious, where do you work? Or do you?
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cwc24

Jan 12, 2011, 4:13 PM
I work in education. I used to sell cell phones.
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Azeron

Jan 11, 2011, 3:58 PM
Like the former hippies in California?
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cwc24

Jan 11, 2011, 5:26 PM
Yea, something like that.
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Jayshmay

Jan 13, 2011, 9:58 AM
I agree. Not just dishonesty, but customer service. Small business cares far, far more about customer satisfaction than big business.

One time I ordered pizza from a small neighborhood pizza place, and the order before me was kinda big, and they gave me a free 2ltr of Dr. Pepper for the wait,...and I didn't even complain about the wait neither. Pizza Hut wouldn't do something like that.
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flip mode

Jan 12, 2011, 9:33 AM
yea they're pretty hypocritical indeed and terrible liars and swindlers (oh the telco world) how u sicken me Crying or Very sad
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tc2005

Jan 16, 2011, 10:09 PM
Verizon is like the "dark side" wheras AT&T is the force.
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