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AT&T To Begin Un-branding Cingular Monday

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A very happy Verizon Wireless sales rep!

DEMOLIX

Jan 13, 2007, 11:55 AM
$$Money$$ spent on rebranding is money that could (and should) be spent improving overall network coverage and quality. Not that I'm complaining since I sell Verizon and work right next to a Cingular store. Very Happy Ma Bell has put all her pieces back together and looks to dominate the US again. I hope that at least on the cellular side Verizon shall re-take #1 status within the next year.

It's the network!!! Razz

Can't wait til Monday! Cheers AT&T! Wink
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TVP125

Jan 13, 2007, 12:13 PM
no verizon wont take number one. so be happy your at least in second place..for now
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DEMOLIX

Jan 13, 2007, 12:38 PM
Cingular more than 59.8 million subscribers

Verizon as of January 2007, the company served a total of 57 million

When I started selling it was more like...

Cingular 63 million

Verizon 48 million

....and that was just a year ago. They only passed Verizon because of the purchase of AT&T Wireless. Most of those customers have left or are leaving and Verizon is clearly benefiting. It will happen sooner than you think. Drooling
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radioshacker

Jan 13, 2007, 1:56 PM
We know Verizon will win in the end. When the LG Shine comes out, the so called "iPhone" will be completely forgotten about.
Sorry Cingy, but not even the iPhone can save you now. Cool
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mcfadonna

Jan 13, 2007, 3:53 PM
Keep dreaming Verizon fan boys. Keep Dreaming! I love it when standing next to person with Verizon as they cant get a signal. "It Must be the network! " Just kinda slips out. Laughing
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AshDizzle

Jan 13, 2007, 3:56 PM
Who is "we"? The very educated radio shack employees? Oh right, I'm sorry. I forgot you have that secret tool, answers online, so you guys know EVERYTHING.

Don't put words in anyone's mouth. Verizon will not surpass AT&T. This name change is NOTHING like the AT&T Wireless buyout. This is just rebranding and will not cost anywhere near the money it took to integrate networks. And plus, now we have 2 communications giants joined together to fund the wireless end of AT&T.

And forget your LG Shine, no one cares about that. Just look at the response at the release of the iPhone, it made headline news.

Don't fool yourself with your bs statements, Verizon will only fall from here.
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njcellfreak

Jan 13, 2007, 4:12 PM
AshDizzle said:
And forget your LG Shine, no one cares about that. Just look at the response at the release of the iPhone, it made headline news.

Don't fool yourself with your bs statements, Verizon will only fall from here.


Don't respond to trolls, you're feeding a monster and you're absolutely right. No one gives a rats a$$ about the LG Shine. The iPhone will do extremely well just based on the fact that it's an apple product. I'm no fan of Apple or the iPod but I know the iPhone will be a hit.

Besides, who wants crippled bluetooth and a lame OS with an arrogant carrier who wants to dictate what you can and what you can't do on your OWN phone that you purchased with your OWN money! Verizon is the ...
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renardlee

Jan 13, 2007, 9:38 PM
lmao, communist carrier,
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mycool

Jan 14, 2007, 10:34 AM
guess you missed the NY Times article where Jobs basically said he wants to control what is put onto the iPhone as far as applications go.
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Jayshmay

Jan 14, 2007, 7:32 PM
Well, there must be a reason there isn't a memory card slot, that flusters me!!!!!

And I definetly concur with the comment that Verizon is COMMUNIST!!!!

Not only will the iPhone give Cingular a really, really big boost in subscriber ship, but ALSO the video sharing service that is suppose to be launching this summer.
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rafster

Jan 16, 2007, 2:11 AM
Who needs a memory slot when you have 4 and 8GB?

Rafster
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Jayshmay

Jan 16, 2007, 9:49 AM
Keyword: removable.

how are you suppose to print picture at a kiosk at Walgreens or wherever???

Like I said, removable, anybody who has any brains, stores at least some things externally

And yes, I agree with one of the other posts, Steve Jobs is all about "control"
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rafster

Jan 16, 2007, 1:31 PM
Keyword: removable.

how are you suppose to print picture at a kiosk at Walgreens or wherever???
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Well, for that reason, Steve made the phone compatible with iTunes.

Put it in the dock, download all the info, get out your media card reader, put the pictures on your card, drive to Walgreens (Or use the online picture submition)...

There you go... I just saved you some gas...

Very Happy

Rafster
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DEMOLIX

Jan 13, 2007, 4:16 PM
Your right why have competition at all. Just let good'ol ma bell take care of everything for us. That’s America for you....bigger is always better. Lets have one store (Wal-Mart) for all our products. Let’s have one company for all out telecom needs. You’re lucky we've got these losers in government right now to approve all these corporate mergers. Why break a company up in the first place if you’re just going to sit there and let all the pieces get back together again. All hail THE phone company. Verizon mobile TV is coming soon and that service alone will put us at number one. Plus you’re no supporting a cold heartless monopoly. Wink
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eciesinski

Jan 13, 2007, 4:20 PM
Verizon mobie tv...cingular already has that, sorry...the company isnt breaking up, its being put back together, you should have protested the southern bell merger, which brought back cingular to at&t and finally put it all back together...thank you
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DEMOLIX

Jan 13, 2007, 4:25 PM
What I was refering to was in the 80s when AT$T was broken up into the bells. No more bells just AT$T thus back together. Any idea on what percentage of all land lines in the US AT&T currently owns?? It's the majority I know that much. Anybody up for a good game of Monopoly? Laughing
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algorithmplus

Jan 13, 2007, 7:30 PM
Verizon is also a Baby Bell that is trying to return to Ma's glory, but with different companies. Verizon, which is made up of Bell Atlantic, Nynex (Both of which are Baby Bells), GTE/MobileNet, PrimeCo, MCI, and Vodafone AirTouch.

And now, Verizon has taken MCI's bloody past into it. MCI's scandals are now part of Verizon. You've got to take the bad with the good.
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trevor83

Jan 15, 2007, 9:55 AM
No monopoly on landlines. VOIP will bury wireline. Wireline can't compete with voip price and recently voip (not skype, Yahoo or any of the computer to computer apps) surpassed wireline in voice quality.
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AshDizzle

Jan 13, 2007, 4:30 PM
DEMOLIX said:
Your right why have competition at all. Just let good'ol ma bell take care of everything for us. That*s America for you....bigger is always better. Lets have one store (Wal-Mart) for all our products. Let*s have one company for all out telecom needs.

Plus you*re no supporting a cold heartless monopoly. Wink



I'm not saying I want only one company for all the needs, Verizon takes advantage of their customers choice by blocking the abilities of thier phones so customers must use mobile web to download content. That is not fair.

I just don't want Verizon to be one of those competitors. I want other companies out their, especially T-mobile, to take the number 2 spo...
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DEMOLIX

Jan 13, 2007, 4:43 PM
I agree the restrictions on phones have been unacceptable. These functions are being unlocked on most new model phones. I have the enV and can transfer files via blutooth and can listen to music with stereo bluetooth as well. I live in Madison, Wisconsin and there is no T-Mobile here at all. They have a long way to go to build themselves up to being in 50-60 million customer range. CDMA services will have a major advantage over GSM in the US for at least the 4-6 more years. At least as far as nationwide coverage goes. GSM does not exist in many rural areas of the US. An iphone won't do you much good without service. Data transfer rates are another reason CDMA has a clear advantage.
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SkillciaX

Jan 14, 2007, 8:42 PM
AshDizzle said:
DEMOLIX said:
Your right why have competition at all. Just let good'ol ma bell take care of everything for us. That*s America for you....bigger is always better. Lets have one store (Wal-Mart) for all our products. Let*s have one company for all out telecom needs.

Plus you*re no supporting a cold heartless monopoly. Wink



I'm not saying I want only one company for all the needs, Verizon takes advantage of their customers choice by blocking the abilities of thier phones so customers must use mobile web to download content. That is not fair.

I just don't want Verizon to be one of those competitors. I want other companies out their, especiall
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trevor83

Jan 15, 2007, 9:59 AM
Like I've told you all before, if the other companies were in Verizon's position (#1 growth every quarter for the last two years), they wouldn't be giving away everything under the sun either. They do it to spur growth, not because they're nice guys. You want a good example? Look at the beating Sprint took 3Q and look at the fact that they are no longer charging for 7pm N&W.
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renardlee

Jan 13, 2007, 9:40 PM
oh and what is Verizon Communications, no different!!!!, verizon is a congolomeration of former baby bells, and a year or two ago bought MCI, the battle will be between two giant telecom companies, Verizon and AT&T
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trevor83

Jan 15, 2007, 10:05 AM
renardlee said:
oh and what is Verizon Communications, no different!!!!, verizon is a congolomeration of former baby bells, and a year or two ago bought MCI, the battle will be between two giant telecom companies, Verizon and AT&T


Yeah but they didn't rename it to MCI and carry that bad image. Unlike Cingular going to AT&T.
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tino72

Jan 13, 2007, 5:12 PM
i have to agree with you , at the rate VZW is adding Subs and there record low churn they are on track to be number one again very soon..The new att is going to propel this even faster..New name well old tired name same bad coverage..The biggest lie ive seen lately is "fewest drop calls" and trust me im not in favor of either company, i have VZW but worked for AT&T wireless and Cingular yrs ago until i graduated college...Not to mention Id say your a very happy VZW rep just because the compensation VZW pays their emplyees compared to cingular is hilarious!
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radioshacker

Jan 13, 2007, 5:44 PM
Most of the responses to the iPhone have to do with either:
1. The phones incapability's (lack of 3G, price, no insurance support, etc.)

2. The lawsuit filed against Apple over the name "iPhone".

Cingular may get a lot of sales out of the iPhone, but not enough to remain the leader. Nor will customers be leaving their current cell phone service provider to switch to Cingular and have to pay $599 for a phone that lacks in many areas.
Cool
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renardlee

Jan 13, 2007, 9:43 PM
im still going to buy it Very Happy
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AshDizzle

Jan 14, 2007, 2:57 PM
Exactly.
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rafster

Jan 16, 2007, 2:21 AM
QUOTE RADIO SHACKER: Cingular may get a lot of sales out of the iPhone, but not enough to remain the leader. Nor will customers be leaving their current cell phone service provider to switch to Cingular and have to pay $599 for a phone that lacks in many areas.
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And yet, people every day are leaving Verizon. Do you know how many people left when the whole V710 debacle happened?

Verizon is horrible. No perks at all.

Cingular has Rollover
T-mobile has My Favs
Sprint has 7PM Nights and the whole Overage Protection...

What does Verizon offer? Just crippled phones and crappy service?

Rafster
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Ask The Shack

Jan 16, 2007, 9:38 AM

Cingular has Rollover
T-mobile has My Favs
Sprint has 7PM Nights and the whole Overage Protection...


Sprint also has SERO.... Razz
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Ask The Shack

Jan 16, 2007, 9:23 AM
Hey, what's wrong with Radio Shack employees....?

Razz
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chuck

Jan 15, 2007, 7:10 PM
Look, Verizon will come on top again. Once AT&T becomes a monoply like before. The judge is going to rule again that they're becoming too big and rule to split up the company back into the BELLS. DON'T you people remember that!!!!
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radioshacker

Jan 13, 2007, 5:27 PM
Nice flame war you started here, DEMOLIX. Very Happy
We will see what all these Cingular fans say when Verizon does take the number one spot this year.
*End flame war*
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algorithmplus

Jan 13, 2007, 7:23 PM
Wasn't Verizon Wireless supposed to take #1 by 2005? Here it is getting close to 2 1/2 years later, and it hasn't happened yet.

It's not the network I guess.
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trevor83

Jan 15, 2007, 10:01 AM
algorithmplus said:
Wasn't Verizon Wireless supposed to take #1 by 2005? Here it is getting close to 2 1/2 years later, and it hasn't happened yet.

It's not the network I guess.


Wasn't Cingular supposed to have at least one quarter where they exceeded Verizon in new acts since 2005?
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renardlee

Jan 13, 2007, 9:30 PM
dont get your hopes up im not porting or changing companies anytime so, GO AT&T!, if i do port it wont be verizon, it will be tmobile or sprint. or i might go to Ampd that uses your golden God-blessed network but dont have the same bigbother practices of VZW
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MacrossXP

Jan 14, 2007, 12:18 AM
My last line is transfering over to Cingy in 10 days. For the past 7 months I have had both Cingy and Verizon and have noticed no differences with the carrier in regards to reception. I live in Western NY if anyone is wondering and Verizon is #1 up here in regards to users BUT...this trend is starting to change. I can go through Buffalo/Rochester and Syracuse and lose no signal BUT with my Verizon phone I lose signal through Rochester and Syracuse.

When I was able to make a call right after new years on my cingy phone but not my verizon all I could do was shake my head.


No more locked Red UI BS.

No more gotta pay for this, gotta pay for that if I wish to change my ringtones or wallpaper.

No more $200 phone bills because I happ...
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Ace2525

Jan 14, 2007, 12:25 AM
I have switched from T-mobile to Verizon and I have to say I hate all this bullSh*t about the Red Bar UI!! Its not that bad...actually i kinda like it...its simple and u still have all the features of the phone...i have the EnV and the bluetooth transfering is fine. when i was switching i was considering Cingular but considering they rip u a new as*hole when getting txt plans it made my switch alot easier...plus i can't say Cingulars phone lineup is that great at all...i was looking at the Sync, that was the only phone i was interested in and even that kinda blew...everybody will have there opinions and each carrier will satisfy somebody. Why fight over it?

P.S.---> Verizon will be passing Cingular is Subscribers very very soon Laughing
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Giovanni_aka_Phoenix

Jan 14, 2007, 2:41 PM
Ace2525 said:
I have switched from T-mobile to Verizon and I have to say I hate all this bullSh*t about the Red Bar UI!! Its not that bad...actually i kinda like it...its simple and u still have all the features of the phone...i have the EnV and the bluetooth transfering is fine. when i was switching i was considering Cingular but considering they rip u a new as*hole when getting txt plans it made my switch alot easier...plus i can't say Cingulars phone lineup is that great at all...i was looking at the Sync, that was the only phone i was interested in and even that kinda blew...everybody will have there opinions and each carrier will satisfy somebody. Why fight over it?

P.S.---> Verizon will be passing Cingular is Sub
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Ace2525

Jan 14, 2007, 3:55 PM
again the SYNC was the only phone that interested me, but it still looks plain. I'm not interested in PDA's.

Stereo Bluetooth? I just want bluetooth to use for a headset.

Texting is what i use the most and Cingular lost when compared to Verizon's pricing

& since most of my friends have VzW and its Free IN txting that made up my mind.
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Ace2525

Jan 14, 2007, 4:00 PM
also back on topic...i think that its a really bad idea to rename cingular...i think Cingular was headed in the right direction but now renaming them At&t is BADDD...although nothing is changing but the name, uneducated wireless users will AVOID at&t at all costs because the name has such a bad rep from the past.
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MacrossXP

Jan 14, 2007, 4:06 PM
The exact reason why it was sold...piss poor management, bad service...whatever else BUT since Cingy has taken over and will become ATT here its gotten a lot better PERIOD..you will run into the morons no matter what company you deal with with customer care.

now that cingy doesnt have to deal with 5 different systems and combining the old ATT wireless over you will see them striving to enhance there 3g network, the introduction of the iphone and the easy use of combined billing...ATT has a lot going for it that many people will take advantage and use.
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Future

Jan 14, 2007, 8:40 PM
I agree with this in part... Short term thinking, its a very bad idea as its confusing for many customers. Long term thinking, in 10 years from now, nobody will remember the name cingular.


Or maybe, in 10 years we will be cingular again... Very Happy Laughing



Ace2525 said:
also back on topic...i think that its a really bad idea to rename cingular...i think Cingular was headed in the right direction but now renaming them At&t is BADDD...although nothing is changing but the name, uneducated wireless users will AVOID at&t at all costs because the name has such a bad rep from the past.
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MacrossXP

Jan 14, 2007, 4:02 PM
Alright so Txt did it for you...great.

Thats perfectly fine and I give Verizon the upper hand with the $5 unlimited in Txt packaging. Right now cingy has nothing.

The phones however are better with the Cingy lineup then what Verizon has. The Red UI with all there phones may be easy to use and function (BC every phone has the same design) but it gets old..just like moto and there razr designs. Bottom line here is that I give up paying $$$ if I want to try to customize anything on the phone, wallpaper, ringtones, graphics...the lockdown of the bluetooth for OBEX....come on Verizon!

Since I own the Sync and others I know first hand what does what...The sync doesnt even look like a PDA phone..its just an over optioned C417. Great screen...
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Jayshmay

Jan 14, 2007, 7:45 PM
I'm definetly not a fan of Vzw, but when it comes to txtg, Cingular IS definetly the worst carrier, I pay $10/mo and ONLY get 200msgs, and heck, it's not like it uses all that much bandwidth! ! !
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MacrossXP

Jan 14, 2007, 9:56 PM
Change your txt plan? 200 msg for 4.99? You will see something like Verizon as Cingy knows its a poor side as you have mentioned. Bottom line here is use whats best..
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rafster

Jan 16, 2007, 2:33 AM
One thing I really always hated about Verizon, is that fact that when you pay for Mobile Web, you still use your minutes....

What the hell....?

So, they're making you pay for downloading ringtones/games/apps and such, and you're wasting your minutes at the same time?

:p

Rafster
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rafster

Jan 16, 2007, 2:24 AM
Easy swapable sim cards if I want to change phones instead of calling up Verizon or praying to god online works...and then when I can Verizon up they ask my 20qs as to why I am doing this.
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I heard VZW is now charging you if you call to change your plan to another ESN...

I heard the only free way to do it now is through the interent.

GO SIM CARDS!!!

Smile

Rafster
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