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Jan 9, 2007, 2:26 PM

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There's a phone that's quadband GSM. . . touchscreen, PDA, with wifi. . . and its running the BEST F****** OPERATING SYSTEM EVER!! Drooling Very Happy

Nokia, I may have to leave you. Crying or Very sad

. . . . now if it weren't a Cingular exclusive. . .

They shoulda gone the unlocked GSM route. Rolling Eyes
I wish they went the GSM unlocked route also as I have Tmo but Cingular paid a BOATLOAD of money for exclusivity.

You'll have to switch or wait and get one when it comes out for the Europe markets.

Jan 9, 2007, 2:56 PM

NO 3G = Deal breaker for me

Yes, Cingular's 3G is not 100% yet. But it is working in most major US cities already. I'll wait for Version 2 for sure.
I agree, bigtime mistake, but then again this is only rev. 1. I'm sure by the summer and fall more phone's will present themselves. Also, while it's cingular only, thats for the US, there's a whole other big planet out there.
I have to agree with ebaydan777. 3G, whether it is EVDO or HSDPA is incredibly overrated. Not only does it suck the life out of your battery, but it really doesn't make a difference on your phone. (Air Cards are a different story)

I would prefer...
yeah and no removable battery! This thing is sweet, but for the price you would think they would have loked into 3g and offered a removable battery. If you get this thing and use it all the time especially considering all it can do, what happens if yo...
Too bad the choice to put this phone is because of GSM and too bad the choice to put this phone on a network that is behind in wireless high speed came to be. Just hope this does not suck like the iTUNES phone.

Jan 11, 2007, 8:57 PM

POLL: iPhone vs N95

Another poll, I'm curious...

Who is more interested in the iPhone, who is more interested in the Nokia N95?

If you were offered one or the other, which would you pick?

Which do you think has the more interesting specs?
iPhone (Apple just does it right) I'll never own one until I convince everyone I know to switch to Cingular with me. Waiting for VZW version...please Steve.
i am a big nokia fan but i have always loved apple computers so i have to go with the iphone.

Jan 11, 2007, 8:27 PM

General question about the price...

I know the price is going to be $499 for a 4GB and $599 for an 8GB when it first comes out but does anyone know when/if the price will drop at all. Let me know thanks!
i doubt it will drop until version 2 comes out, and im going to estimate that in 2009, i dont think apple wants to lose money so they will let the people end their 2 year contracts before introducing a new phone, or it will be bad when everyones on ci...

Jan 9, 2007, 11:13 PM

Data plans/usage

so now that we know all the details or at least most of them about the new Apple iPhone, we should start talking about data plans and their uses, first of all i strongly beleive cingular paid big bucks for apple to come their way, but apple is going to expect some deals and negotiations from cingular so that Apple may hold their name high and proud as they have before with excellent support and service. Now i have t-mobile and a sidekick, im going to venture that apple being exclusive to cingular is going to want to make a special data plan, just like the one hiptop/tmobile made for the sidekicks ($29 for unlimited data/sms), so im going to cross my fingers and pray that they come up with something, data plans can be a bummer when they reach...
I'm not from cingular or anything, but would generally agree.. I went with a smartphone because I need unlimited internet ability, but could not justify the cost of PDA connect. I think it's rediculous. That said, by my understanding of cingular's c...
They're not discussing that yet, because it hasn't been finalized. However Cingular did hint during the press conference that special iPhone data plans were likely.

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Jan 11, 2007, 6:54 PM

Voice Dialing???

Has anyone heard if this has voice dialing? They messed up big time with no 3G. Might have to wait for 2nd edition.
ok buddy first of all go read about 3G people are really getting annoying with this....barely any parts of the US have 3G, why own a battery killer when you cant even use it, i live in LA and we dont have 3G at all near us, so peopl;e pay money for so...

Jan 11, 2007, 6:26 PM


personally i think the the prada will be a much better phone. + it will most likely be a lot cheaper, less heavy and kooler looking Smile
Thanks for that unresearched, unfactual opinion. "Most likely be" doesn't fly in my book...

Jan 11, 2007, 6:20 PM

Where can I get this phone?

I really want this phone but I don't know where to get it from can someone help?
Addleton said:
I really want this phone but I don't know where to get it from can someone help?

Go to your nearest Cingular store and wait there until June 1st.
You can get it from any Apple or Cingular store... in June.

Jan 9, 2007, 5:56 PM

The good news for VZW

Okay, so we didn't get (and let's face it) the coolest phone ever. Even if it isn't the most practical for you for whatever you do, nothing really compares on the cool factor or would catch people's eyes like this phone.

The good news for us is that other manufacturers and providers are going to have to step up the pace a little bit to compete with this wonder so you can probably expect some really awesome phones to come out in the near future for the other guys. Don't sell VZW and Sprint short just yet.

Jan 9, 2007, 2:56 PM

This is a UMPC more than a Cellphone

Anyone else think that this thing is more of a UMPC (unltra mobile personal computer)? It has tons of cool featuers and everything id love in a phone, except for huge detail...

the batter life of this thing is hideous, 5 hours of usable time, with 16 hours of either music or standby? While it clears out room in my pocket from my PDA, it fills it back up with a wall charger...its a great device, not a great phone...

this is defanitly a two handed phone, there is no way you can blindly use this phone to silence a call or adjust the volume with out looking at it, nor can you send/end calls with the feel of the buttons
that's 5 hours of talk-time and 16 hours of music...I don't know about you but that looks pretty good to me..and much better than my 6700..

Jan 10, 2007, 12:27 AM

So when it breaks...

or you lose it, you're screwed. Last time I checked Cingular won't insure a phone this expensive. Laughing
it wont be through cingular..itll be through apple, everything is surrounded by apple including service/support/sales (but you can buy the phone at a cingular store), i wouldnt be surprised if they place an applecare product on this device optionally,...
You could just be careful with it. I've had several cell phones over the past 8 years, multiple handheld gaming systems, a Zune, several portable music (non-MP3) players, and I've never broken one of them, gotten one wet, lost one, etc. It really is...
This was covered somewhat during Cingular's iPhone press conference.

Apple and Cingular will be offering joint support.

Support teams will be cross-trained, so basic things can be covered by either team, but if you call Cingular with an advanced...

Jan 11, 2007, 1:48 AM

Cisco sues Apple over use of 'iPhone'

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/299215_ciscoa ... »

Cisco sues Apple over use of 'iPhone'
It is claiming trademark infringement

Thursday, January 11, 2007


Cisco Systems Inc. sued Apple Inc. on Wednesday over the use of the iPhone name, setting up a trademark battle a day after Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs introduced the new mobile device.

Cisco claims that it owns the iPhone name for telephone service, and said in the complaint filed in federal court in San Francisco that the Apple product "will share an identical sight and sound and strong similarity of meaning." Apple called the suit "silly" and said it was confident it would prevail.
ya...i honestly think itll end up being called ApplePhone with the apple symbol like AppleTV by the time it is released...that would be cool, its a nice change from "ieverything", i think iphone is another code name, but i could be wrong and apple may...
There is a reasonable chance that this will go to mediation where Apple will pay Cisco to use the moniker.

I doubt they take it to trial because recent trademark issue lawsuits have gone the way of the person employing the trademark if the owner do...

Jan 11, 2007, 9:38 AM


at&t Iphone not cingular Very Happy
They haven't made that decision yet, but they did indicate during the Cingular press conference that it was likely the brand on it would be AT&T at launch.

Jan 11, 2007, 1:32 PM

Finally an American phone to be happy about.

I know that there are alot of ppl who will hate this phone because Apple picked Cingular as the carrier or it has a touchscreen or whateva is your whine of the day. But i am happy to finally see a great looking phone from the States for a chance. Its been awhile since someone in our own backyard has made a phone that everyone wants to talk about and some want to actually own.

It is gsm which is fine for me because I'm not switching to Cingular/AT&T so i can wait for this phone to be unlocked and more than likely improved by 2008. I think this will be at the very least a huge marketing success for Apple but sales success will have to be seen. As a former cellphone salesman, I know it always takes a great sales pitch for get anyone to buy ...

Jan 9, 2007, 11:20 PM

I know why Apple is dissing VZW

VZW would probably not accept this phone without restrictions that would be a deal breaker for Apple.

But no sweat because LG is coming out with the KE850 which seems to be the CDMA response to the iPhone.
haha ur kidding right???? that phones a joke...gonna be laughed at at comparison to the iphone cmon its LG..
I know why apple is dissing VZW too. VZW is working with Microsoft for VCAST Music. There will be a comeback cheaper than $600 with better innovation, which is expected from VZW. Right now VZW leads everyone with the most music phones and I dont se...

Jan 11, 2007, 9:02 AM

Apple to change iphone name

Cisco filed a lawsuit in Federal District Court for Northern California seeking an injunction against Apple using the name.

The name iPhone is a registered trademark of Linksys, a division of Cisco. Linksys picked up the iPhone name when it bought a company called Infogear Technology Corp. in 2000. Cisco’s iPhones are telephone handsets designed for use on a VOIP (voice over Internet Protocol) network.

Apple and Cisco have been in negotiations for about two years over Apple’s desire to license the iPhone trademark, said Cisco spokesman John Noh. When Apple CEO Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone Tuesday at Expo, Cisco had not yet received a signed trademark licensing agreement from Apple, even though the two companies had been negotia...
Cisco has it here... Apple has the TM in other International locations. So it's not cut and dry.

Jan 10, 2007, 1:28 AM

No other US carriers until 2009

From CNN.com:

"Cingular, a unit of AT&T (up $0.13 to $33.94, Charts), will be Apple's sole U.S. partner. It's an exclusive multiyear agreement, which means no other carrier will be able to sell the iPhone through 2009."

I'm sick of short-sighted companies, including Apple. Why in the hell would you lock up a phone to a single carrier for two years? By that point, the phone will be 100% obsolete.

I'm sick and tired of being forced from one carrier to another in order to buy the nicest phones. Apple won't get a single dollar of my money on this one... they can take the iPhone and shove it for all I care. I hope the big guys (Moto, Nok, Sam, etc...) learn that the best products don't need exclusive agreements... they'll sell themselves...
this phone is already obsolete as far as data is concerned. That alone is a MAJOR drawback...but its apple first attempt at a phone. Apple's problem is they try to make everything look fancy and sometimes they just dont work out. This phone will be...
Just because T-mobile can;t sell the phone doesn't mean that you couldn't use it on their network. They chose GSM.. if you want the largest GSM base in the US then you choose Cingular.. If you want to use your phone most places outside the US you ch...
I absolutely agree 100 percent....that is why the blackberry sales alone will completely dominate the sales of the iPhone. And if you were going to limit this phone to one network being a Quad band phone, why Cingular!! i make a living alone convertin...
Hmm. . . I'm wondering what the non U.S. options will be. . . They straight out said Europe will be at the end of the year, but Canada's equivalent of the FCC is quick to get stuff through. . . and it's not uncommon for a phone to show up with a Canad...
I hear you. However, this is only Apple's first salvo and they will continue to innovate. Let's see what the other players can come up with. What do you think about Yahoo! Go. The notion of optimizing key Internet services is attractive. The challenge...
As a person in this business for many years, I can tell you that Apple knows what is best for them. If they honestly thought that they would not benefit from choosing Cingular as exclusive, they wouldn't do it. They are pretty smart folks. I am sur...
I'm sure Cingular funded this project well but I wont be rushing to switch carriers.
I had read an article that stated that Cingular had changed its voicemail system so that the iPhone's unique voicemail notification would work. There could be more factors involved than simply an exclusive agreement.

I also personally think that...

Jan 10, 2007, 8:44 PM

It's only been one day!!!!! Let the lawsuits begin

ya i heard about this..nothing will happen apple will pay them for the name and thats it....papers were supposed to be signed yesterday but i guess nothing happened...

Jan 10, 2007, 5:43 PM

Good start for all wireless handsets.

It seems this device is a good starting point for the future of what wireless devices are trying to be.

A major point that is holding cell phones back is people view them as exactly that. Cell phones. Apple and its marketing machine will probably have the ability to convince users that these devices are only phones, but wireless data devices that can provide access to a variety of data rich services.

If LG or Motorola released a device like that, most people probably wouldn't get so eager to jump on the convergence bandwagon. I'm hopeful this will fuel demand for similar devices as competition ramps up.

For those of you complaining that Apple didn't create a slam dunk with their first release, try investing millions of dollars o...
thank you fahrende, this is their first product give them a break, THEY REVOLUTIONIZED the cell phone market...be honest people are on their toes for this phone unlike other phone companies, if this did come out for motorola it would be a hype...for l...

Jan 10, 2007, 7:15 PM

does anybody know???

I like to text alot on my phone I have of course mastered the T9 and free handed texting but i am just as good with a keyboard. Anyway my question is will this phone be able to text easily or will it suck for texting just like most things touch sensitive. Cool
well its multi-touch meaning its very smart at knowing what button your trying to hit if you get close enough, otherwise it has predictive text like T9 already built in..should be a breeze just gotta learn where the buttons are cus the qwerty board is...
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