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Generic Object Exchange (OBEX)

wnrussell

May 23, 2005, 3:31 PM
Does the E815 have Generic Object Exchange (OBEX)?

Unlike the V710, Bluetooth SIG qualified this phone to have file transfer on demand. You would see an extra option on the Copy menu when a picture is selected.
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Maroot6

May 23, 2005, 3:41 PM
a simple No..
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Natas

May 23, 2005, 4:25 PM
LOLOL does it have OBEX, good lord man have you been under a rock.
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wnrussell

May 23, 2005, 5:23 PM
Natas said:
LOLOL does it have OBEX, good lord man have you been under a rock.

No, I have not been under a rock at all.

http://www.canyouhearusnow.net »

The question was about the E815, not the V710. The E815 was Qualified with OBEX profiles, whereas the V710 was not.

Last week, some Verizon execs were discussing opening a few file folders to OBEX, for compatibility with all of the cars that need phonebook transfer on demand. Telus and USCC will likely leave the profiles alone.

That would make the phone much easier to open up, with just a few seem edits. And since the phone is marketed worldwide, unless every carrier cripples it, the firmware will be out there.
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TheBrickHouse

May 23, 2005, 6:24 PM
Natas said:
LOLOL does it have OBEX, good lord man have you been under a rock.


Natas, give it up already. You're on a Phone Scoop forum that is giving out upcomming info on the E815. Get it through your thick head already. This is not a Verizon Wireless customer service complaint site. I know what can be done with OBEX. I'm not a freakin' moron like you've painted everyone else out to be. Face the facts... As much you want the V710 to be the same as the E815 so you can run your mouth telling everyone "I told you so", all you can do try to annoy almost everyone on the forum who is trying to get valuable info on the phone in the first place. Apparently, this phone isn't the same as its look-alike counterpart...
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Natas

May 23, 2005, 7:29 PM
Your question doesn't make any sense.

"tell me one phone that has OBEX support on the VZW network that can top the E815 overall...

But I will take a stab at it anyways.

None, that's what sucks so bad.
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Natas

May 23, 2005, 7:32 PM
TheBrickHouse said:
Natas said:
LOLOL does it have OBEX, good lord man have you been under a rock.


Natas, give it up already. You're on a Phone Scoop forum that is giving out upcomming info on the E815. Get it through your thick head already. This is not a Verizon Wireless customer service complaint site. I know what can be done with OBEX. I'm not a freakin' moron like you've painted everyone else out to be. Face the facts... As much you want the V710 to be the same as the E815 so you can run your mouth telling everyone "I told you so", all you can do try to annoy almost everyone on the forum who is trying to get valuable info on the phone in the first place. Apparently, this phone isn'
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motoman82

May 27, 2005, 12:16 AM
Why does it always seem like everytime i read a thread its always ends off the subject into a particular disagreement with at least 1 particular person. We have our rights to put what we want on here no need to fight. Verizon does what they do and have reasons for it whether we like or not if you dont like it leave. Phones are turning into things people never dreamed of they have digital cameras and video recorders on them soon they will be caring broadband speeds on them some already do some you can even download music videos and such to! What happened to people who just want to make and get a call? We cant find phones that will just do that anymore so deal with what we have be happy with what we got if the bluetooth headset pairs with...
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TheBrickHouse

May 27, 2005, 8:29 AM
motoman82, I totally agree. The problem is people think their cell phones are laptop computers, which isn't the case. If Bluetooth on the V710 wasn't "crippled", would we all be on this forum talking about how great it is, or would we end up having serious horror stories, such as major security breaches within the Verizon network, stolen identities, etc... Now some phones have almost fully functional Bluetooth on Cingular's network with no problems, at least from what I've heard, but who is to say that couldn't be a serious security issue in the near future? Remember, there are evil bastards out in this world that create computer viruses/spyware just for the sake of doing it. Also, the last time I checked, there isn't any Anti-Virus/Spyware ...
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motoman82

May 27, 2005, 8:53 AM
I agree with you brickhouse i think Verizon is trying to protect us i dont know how many people heard about what happened with Paris Hilton and her phone but someone hacked right into got her contacts and posted them online. It is a security issue and like i said Cell Phones were made originally for making and receiving calls. Not for being a secondary laptop. All i use my bluetooth for is the headset heck thats all i thought it was suppose to be used for and it works fine that way and im happy and i dont see what the big deal is. Verizon is going to take the risk of getting sued and having the customers get ticked or anything like that because than the customers would really be in a uproar its a no win situation.
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wnrussell

May 27, 2005, 10:02 AM
The E815 was Qualified with everything: OBEX, DUN, Headset, Handsfree, FT Server.

If Verizon turns off any of these features, we are prepared to enable them now, via seem edits and firmware restoration.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=5199991 ... »
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tightwad

May 27, 2005, 10:39 AM
I agree, I don't really know what's the big deal about OBEX. I'd much rather have my cell phone being able to send/receive calls like a cell phone was meant to be, than having OBEX & BT fully functional, but can't hold onto a call if my life depends on it. As far as security, since I'm not in the cell phone field, I can't really comment very much on it, but I do know people are constantly trying to hack into a PBX system. We've had it happened here where someone hacked into our PBX and basically making long distance call using on of our lines. Since then, we do not allow remote forwarding within our system, it's kind of a hassle for us but sometimes you just have to do it in order to protect yourself.

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wabmorgan

Jul 8, 2005, 10:04 PM
YES... biggger things indeed....... like the seem edits to enable OBEX!!!!!! 😳
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nom anor

May 27, 2005, 11:56 AM
Is it just me remembering incorrectly or am i correct that Paris's phone wasn't hacked in any way, someone accessed her information through the web interface of her phone account.

I have had a personal VZW phone for years (currently a v710) and wouldn't change it for anything for the simple reason that it does make calls whenever/wherever i am and has never let me down.

For about the last 2 years now i have also had a phone through Cingular for work (currently a Razr) and i have to say that i love the phone, the reception is just a little too spotty for me to ever consider changing. I do really like being able to use Bluetooth to transfer files back and forth between my phone and my co-workers as well as with the computers its lik...
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wnrussell

May 27, 2005, 12:22 PM
nom anor said:
As far as these horrible security issues that i keep hearing about there hasn't been a single 'wild' bluetooth virus yet has there?

Correct. Bluetooth has also been standard equipment on almost every phone in Europe for about 5 years with no problems. It's basically like a 30 ft. WI-FI network.
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greggmh123

Jul 9, 2005, 1:36 AM
Paris Hilton did NOT have her phone hacked. The provider's web site got hacked and they got hte information that way. It was NOT a Bluetooth hack that caused her problem.
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gigstyle

Jul 10, 2005, 12:57 AM
Natas said:
TheBrickHouse said:
Natas said:
LOLOL does it have OBEX, good lord man have you been under a rock.


Natas, give it up already. You're on a Phone Scoop forum that is giving out upcomming info on the E815. Get it through your thick head already. This is not a Verizon Wireless customer service complaint site. I know what can be done with OBEX. I'm not a freakin' moron like you've painted everyone else out to be. Face the facts... As much you want the V710 to be the same as the E815 so you can run your mouth telling everyone "I told you so", all you can do try to annoy almost everyone on the forum who is trying to get valuable info on the phone in the first pl
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wnrussell

Jul 10, 2005, 1:59 AM
OBEX is a profile in Bluetooth which allows free transfer of files between Bluetooth Enabled devices within 30 feet, for free.

Imagine going to a party and sharing your photo album by transmitting them to everybody there, or transferring your new contacts to your computer without connecting cables or even taking your phone out of your pocket.

http://www.canyouhearusnow.net/bluetooth/ »
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gigstyle

Jul 10, 2005, 4:13 PM
wnrussell said:
OBEX is a profile in Bluetooth which allows free transfer of files between Bluetooth Enabled devices within 30 feet, for free.

Imagine going to a party and sharing your photo album by transmitting them to everybody there, or transferring your new contacts to your computer without connecting cables or even taking your phone out of your pocket.

http://www.canyouhearusnow.net/bluetooth/
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Thanks for the info. Wow! sounds like a must have feature! Sad to know verizon disabled OBEX!!
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VZWSales

May 27, 2005, 6:54 PM
wnrussell said:
Does the E815 have Generic Object Exchange (OBEX)?

Unlike the V710, Bluetooth SIG qualified this phone to have file transfer on demand. You would see an extra option on the Copy menu when a picture is selected.


Yes, it has OBEX. No matter what you hear other people say, it does support this function. There is a way to enable it on the V710 as well, with a "backdoor" menu. If you guys are interested I can dig up my materils and post that here.
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joachim

May 27, 2005, 8:39 PM
That would be cool. I have a v710, I would love to see that
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wnrussell

May 27, 2005, 10:30 PM
VZWSales said:
wnrussell said:
Does the E815 have Generic Object Exchange (OBEX)?

Unlike the V710, Bluetooth SIG qualified this phone to have file transfer on demand. You would see an extra option on the Copy menu when a picture is selected.


Yes, it has OBEX. No matter what you hear other people say, it does support this function. There is a way to enable it on the V710 as well, with a "backdoor" menu. If you guys are interested I can dig up my materils and post that here.

Yes, please do that. It appears that we now have the seem edits figured out to enable OBEX on the E815, but still not for the V710.
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shooters

May 28, 2005, 10:27 AM
VZW sales, contact me admin@inetron.com. I will pay you for the process to enable OBEX
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tightwad

May 28, 2005, 10:36 AM
Are you saying VZW sale contacted you and offered to pay you for the process to enable OBEX? Why would they do that when they are the ones that is disabling OBEX?
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shooters

May 28, 2005, 10:39 AM
I asked him if he would make it available to me and I would compensate him. He has not contacted me at all.
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Natas

May 28, 2005, 9:59 PM
That guy is full of it brah, there is no OBEX for the v710 period, you should know that!
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motoman82

May 28, 2005, 10:58 PM
Hey give the guy a chance see if he is telling the truth to see if there is a backdoor menu for OBEX on the V710 its only fair.
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wnrussell

May 29, 2005, 4:11 AM
shooters said:
I asked him if he would make it available to me and I would compensate him. He has not contacted me at all.

Yeah, I'll pay too. This guy will be well compensated.

VXWSales, can we have the specific edits as soon as today? I'll have a messenger bring the cash.
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Natas

May 28, 2005, 10:00 PM
LIER!!!!!!!
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wnrussell

May 28, 2005, 11:30 PM
VZWSales said:
wnrussell said:
Does the E815 have Generic Object Exchange (OBEX)?

Unlike the V710, Bluetooth SIG qualified this phone to have file transfer on demand. You would see an extra option on the Copy menu when a picture is selected.


Yes, it has OBEX. No matter what you hear other people say, it does support this function. There is a way to enable it on the V710 as well, with a "backdoor" menu. If you guys are interested I can dig up my materils and post that here.

No takers?
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bofis

May 30, 2005, 9:45 AM
well his nick is "vzwsales" he MUST be legit...oh wait, you can set your nick to anything you want when you sign up...

Guess we'll just have to wait till the E815 comes out and see for ourselves...good things come to those who wait 😉
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homer2004

Jul 9, 2005, 1:01 AM
Motorola E815

Bluetooth identifier : B02006
Created Date : 2005-02-01
Spec version : 1.1
PRD version : 1.0
Product ID : E815
Software Version : 8720_01.0C.S3
Hardware Version : HW01
Qualified Product Notice : QPN_E815_rev1.pdf
Compliant Portion : CPD_E815_rev1.pdf

Qualified profile:
- DUN-GW
- FT-Server
- Generic Access
- HandsFree-AG
- Headset-AG
- Generic Object Exchange



AGAIN, THIS PHONE HAS OBEX. It's simply been disabled by a software revision.
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ALAOLACOLA

Jul 10, 2005, 2:17 AM
Don't waste our time Wilbur. 🤭
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PorkRind

Jul 10, 2005, 5:56 AM
Stop the FUD. There's nothing wrong with OBEX on the E815. If you can't use it, it's because you lack the appropriate skills. There are lots of people happily using OBEX FTP over on HoFo, and I've had it enabled on my phone since day the first day I got my hands on it.

Methinks you're a troll, posting denials simply to elicit a response.
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PorkRind

Jul 9, 2005, 7:34 AM
And it works just fine. I've transferred videos, pictures and MP3s to/from my E815 via OBEX FTP.

You appear to be a VZW mouthpiece, interested solely in obscuring the true capabilities of this phone.
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ALAOLACOLA

Jul 10, 2005, 2:19 AM
🤭
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PorkRind

Jul 10, 2005, 5:51 AM
If you had, as you say "lots of experience with hacks", you would know that OBEX FTP works just fine on the E815 once it's been enabled. I've used it to transfer ringtones, pictures and videos on and off the phone without a single problem.

Your denials are getting tiresome. OBEX works, and as much as you say it doesn't, I'll just continue to happily use it on my new E815.
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joachim

Jul 10, 2005, 4:02 PM
who really cares anymore guy 😁
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tridebri

Jul 10, 2005, 5:05 PM
How?? I am pretty tech saavy, but never played with a phone...are there websites for this sort of thing? will i be able to connect to my powerbook and drag and drap? transfer contacts? it cant be that simple, is it?

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PorkRind

Jul 10, 2005, 6:23 PM
Unfortunately, you won't be doing any hacking with your Powerbook. The software tools needed to enable OBEX require Win98/2000/XP. Once it's enabled, though, you can use DUN and OBEX file transfer from your Mac.

All the details can be found at HowardForums. Start at:

http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=294 »

The important threads are "sticky."
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