Motorola V710
Just got back from a Moto conference - I'm taking my VX-7000 back!
Great news! I just back from a Moto conference earlier this afternoon in D.C. and I now have renewed excitement for the v710. The Moto reps confirmed that the v710 is ready to roll (packaged and all) and that they're waiting on VZW's call (which should be any day now). She said Moto has a system in place that from the point of the call-- it will take 3 weeks to get them on the shelves. She passed around a few new phones on the way, but I was only interested in the v710. Here are some pictures that I took with my work phone (VX-6000)...
http://members.cox.net/temp-v710/ »
The v710 is the next in line, followed by the v810 (redesigned with a stub antenna), and two PTT phones (the T300p and a navy blue, v60 style phone with color). Th...
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http://members.cox.net/temp-v710/ »
The v710 is the next in line, followed by the v810 (redesigned with a stub antenna), and two PTT phones (the T300p and a navy blue, v60 style phone with color). Th...
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The Alchemist said:...
Great news! I just back from a Moto conference earlier this afternoon in D.C. and I now have renewed excitement for the v710. The Moto reps confirmed that the v710 is ready to roll (packaged and all) and that they're waiting on VZW's call (which should be any day now). She said Moto has a system in place that from the point of the call-- it will take 3 weeks to get them on the shelves. She passed around a few new phones on the way, but I was only interested in the v710. Here are some pictures that I took with my work phone (VX-6000)...
http://members.cox.net/temp-v710/ »
The v710 is the next in line, followed by the v810 (redesigned with a stub antenna), and two PTT phones (the T300p and a nav
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Of course that was the first question we asked. They said they didn't know exactly but $299.99-$349.99 wasn't too far off. It's up to VZW ultimately.
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Do you know if that is that full retail, or with a 1yr or 2yr contract
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I misunderstood your question... sorry.
I believe they were quoting the contract pricing.
I believe they were quoting the contract pricing.
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no worries...ok cool thanks a mil for the info...and do you know if it can be here anytime sooner than 3 weeks? Again thanks for the updates...pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease keep 'em coming...Peace all!!
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doubt it. they said their system takes exactly three weeks. they said clearly that if VZW called them today-- it would be on the shelves in exactly three weeks (hypothetically of course). again, it depends on when VZW is ready and makes the call. i'm sure finance is holding it up. i can guarantee they're still trying to negotiate a final purchase price. i'll let everyone know as soon as i hear something. i have their cards, but i'm not going to call them and bother them about it. if i have a legitimate business reason to call-- i will.
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ok cool...and...i'm sorry for all the questions... đ¤ ...i'm just so excited! haha...If you will, What is your guestimate on when VZW will give MOTO the call?...Again thanks a mil for the info...Peace all
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guesstimate? it sounded to me that VZW knows Moto is waiting, so i imagine any day now from the sounds of it (they way Moto was talking about it).
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Yeeeessss! I'm so happy, now I can go home happy, you've made my day!
Anxio*
Anxio*
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three weeks. Cool! A new date has been tossed... how does July 29th sound?
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Well, it could take as quick as 3 weeks with the system Moto has in place but it all depends on when VZW makes the call. Funny, they mentioned the demand for them... Moto site has 40,000 preorders and they mentioned the testers who are selling their phones on eBay for a cool $900 dollars. She said price has dropped dramatically on eBay because people know it's really close to launch time. Moto is excited about this product and feel that they'll earn their reputation back with it.
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Is it possible for the phone to be released any sooner than 3 weeks? I am really anxious to get this phone!!!! MAN I'M FU*KIN EXCITED!!! Can't wait...anyway...yeah do you think it can be out any sooner than 3 weeks?...Perhaps b4 the 18th??? đ ...Anyway...thanks a ton for the info...please post any updates you get...if you can of course! đ Again thanks for the info...Peace all...CAN'T WAIT
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The Alchemist said:
Moto is excited about this product and feel that they'll earn their reputation back with it.
Seems to me they might be equally as excited about the v600. I had it for 30 days and it seemed really sweet. Did you hear any feedback on how happy or not they are with the v600 and perhaps the two phones together can mean a big plus for Moto (especially them being with two different providers)?
Mike
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bigack said:
i say the 27th
I say the 27th also, but I wish it was sooner!!!!!
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I would personally have to go with August. Even if VZW calls them up this week, they still have to prepare for the launch. Accessories, merchandising, collateral, etc. That'll take a little bit of time to prepare and send out.
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Hey, thanks for the awesome information, along with pics! Here's the question that I have: If the phone is done, boxed and ready to ship, what else do they need to do that could possibly take three weeks?
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Well, I imagine it's not an easy process to ship from Moto's warehouse to VZW's warehouse and then out to every store and agent location nationwide. That in itself is a task. The way Moto made it sound was like they had these sweet procedures set in place to expedite the process.
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and as you mentioned earlier in this post, they may still be negotiating the final price
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In three weeks you need marketing, advertising, the creation of store planogram adjustments, posters and collateral. You also need approval and delivery to all stores. Inventory counts and shipments details. Employee training....remember it's verizon's 1st bluetooth phone. Shall I continue?
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Maybe a prior answered question, but can you put pics on the outer display? All the pictures of the 710 to date show that silly swirl in different colors...
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I don't have any other pic of the outer display. I believe that's the only external LCD setting you can have. I don't believe you can change that. When I browsed througt display settings, I don't recall seeing anything about changing the external LCD-- only the internal (of course).
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Thank you, thats bad news..the 7000 is very user friendly that way..hate to compromise but we shall see if its worth it...are the menus intuitive? or like prior moto phones?
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The menus are just about the same (as you can see in the pics), but with a few extra options of course considering it's bluetooth, has external memory, etc.
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oh, i almost forgot-- the phonebook listing is revamped and a **** load better as well the media center. nothing new just different look. also, it doesn't have the lag that the 720/730 had when browsing through the phonebook and menus.
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Can I store house addresses and multiple phone numbers in the phonebook? Do you know anything more about the PC Connectivity features with respect to the PIM functions? Thank you for the wealth of information, Alchemist!
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You can store multiple numbers in the phonebook but I don't recall if you can store addresses. We didn't touch too much about PC Connectivity features with respect to the PIM funcation, sorry.
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man i hate this..... lmao i hope ur lying cuz i was liking the idea of it HAVING TO BE released b4 the 14th like sum1 had mentioned b4.....
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Alchemist, I have a question. I understand that the outer display does not show the picture when someone is calling, but does it at least show the name or number on the exterior screen? That's what most flip phones have.
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it doesnt show the picture of the person???? then why do they say PICTURE ID on EXTERNAL screen????? oh thats f*cking gay
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they never said picture ID on external screen. i never read that anywhere coming straight from Moto. it does have picture ID though. hell, so does the vx6000-- but you have to open your flip to see it (which defeats the purpose if you ask me). that's the reason people were put onto the vx7000 because it does actually have the external picture ID.
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I'm sorry but I'm really bugged about this MP3 and Caller ID thing...
can you set mp3's as ringtones?
secondly...you can't see the person who's calling on the outside...that is incredibly lame...thanks for the info peace
can you set mp3's as ringtones?
secondly...you can't see the person who's calling on the outside...that is incredibly lame...thanks for the info peace
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On Motorola's website for the V710 it says you can set mp3's as ringtones and also there is an external caller id. It says this under "Fun Features" and "Call Management Features" right here
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hellomoto/experience ... »
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/hellomoto/experience ... »
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its says external color display AND picture caller id.... not picture caller id ON external display.... i know im mad too about the misleading words
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Catch the keyword there... external CALLER ID, not external PICTURE CALLER ID. Trust me, I tried when I had it. Yes, you can set mp3's as a ringtone stored on the built in 10mb, but I'm not sure about using one stored on the TransFlash card.
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man, some you guys don't actually read what i write.
yes, you can use an mp3 as a rintone stored on the built in 10mb... midi as well but i'm not too sure about using a ringer stored on the transflash card. i would imagine there would a some lag on that if it is possible.
correct, NO external picture ID.
yes, you can use an mp3 as a rintone stored on the built in 10mb... midi as well but i'm not too sure about using a ringer stored on the transflash card. i would imagine there would a some lag on that if it is possible.
correct, NO external picture ID.
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Alchemist...have any more info regarding the phone's features or about the phone's release or anything else about the phone...I don't mean to be pushy pushy...again i'm just really excited that we have a solid date to look forward to...thanks for the info...peace all
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TheMisunderestimated1 said:
I'm sorry but I'm really bugged about this MP3 and Caller ID thing...
can you set mp3's as ringtones?
secondly...you can't see the person who's calling on the outside...that is incredibly lame...thanks for the info peace
I tried to do the mp3 thing on the v710 and it didn't work out too well. Well it didn't work at all that's why I believe you need the transflash because you have an option in the phones menu to switch storage devices so that you can select that is on your transflash card. You cannot send mp3 ringtones the way you can on the vx7000, it doesn't work that way and you also cannot upload them using a data cable, send them via bluetooth or upload them using Moto...
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So how are you supposed to get mp3s onto the phone to use as ringtones or simply to listen to?
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JMan532 said:
So how are you supposed to get mp3s onto the phone to use as ringtones or simply to listen to?
You ask a good question, like I said more than likely it'll be via transflash. You cannot upload anything to the phone using a data cable or via bluetooth because the phone won't recognize it because it runs off index files. You can't send them through MMS like you can do on the VX7000, i've stated this before as well. The only way mp3 playback will work is off the transflash, there is no other way.
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ecko04 said:
You ask a good question, like I said more than likely it'll be via transflash. You cannot upload anything to the phone using a data cable or via bluetooth because the phone won't recognize it because it runs off index files. You can't send them through MMS like you can do on the VX7000, i've stated this before as well. The only way mp3 playback will work is off the transflash, there is no other way.
My understanding is that this is a result of Moto's mobile phone tools 2.0. Again, my understanding (which could be misguided) says that 2.0 does not support the 710 and that mobile phone tools 3.0 is required for this functionality. I've heard from varios sources (of varying reliability) that ...
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FireStryke said:
Also, ecko... didn't you sell your 710 before VZW turned on WAP 2.0? I'm REALLY not an expert on the whole WAP subject, but couldn't that have been the cause for your inability to use MMS?
WAP 2.0 has nothing in any way, shape, form or fashion to do with MMS. I had WAP 2.0 on the v710 before WAP 2.0 was even officially introduced to the public. I had it added to my account on June 21st and I even had a video with it on there that I posted but the bandwith got maxed out. WAP 2.0 was already out but they weren't selling any phones with it on there except for the LG 4500, I believe and it wasn't launched nationwide yet but if you had the settings then you could access it and I had the settin...
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ecko04 said:
WAP 2.0 has nothing in any way, shape, form or fashion to do with MMS. I had WAP 2.0 on the v710 before WAP 2.0 was even officially introduced to the public. I had it added to my account on June 21st and I even had a video with it on there that I posted but the bandwith got maxed out. WAP 2.0 was already out but they weren't selling any phones with it on there except for the LG 4500, I believe and it wasn't launched nationwide yet but if you had the settings then you could access it and I had the settings so I could access it.
The reason why MMS was getting filtered out was because the messages were in mp4 format and the attachments were getting dropped by Verizon's MMS service.
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I wonder if you can download or replace the files with P2KMan since Mobile Phone Tools is limited anyways.
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i'm assuming only through the transflash, like ecko previously stated.
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MrYang said:
it doesnt show the picture of the person???? then why do they say PICTURE ID on EXTERNAL screen????? oh thats f*cking gay
When someone calls and you have the picture id set then yes on the external screen it'll show the picture and if you don't have a picture set and you have the number saved in the phonebook then it'll display the name and number. When you do have the picture id set it looks horrific, the external caller id is not in full color by any means and it looks bad and when I say bad I mean BAD
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did you see it yourself or someone posted here their opinion.
once the phone comes out me and you all see what is it capable of, if we do like it we get it if not i probably get Nokia 7610 for T mobile.âšī¸
once the phone comes out me and you all see what is it capable of, if we do like it we get it if not i probably get Nokia 7610 for T mobile.âšī¸
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HI MIKEFYA
Nokia 7610 is bulky though, it is as big as a PDA, so I think I would rather get the new Treo from Verizon with more features and bluetooth. Just my opinion.
Nokia 7610 is bulky though, it is as big as a PDA, so I think I would rather get the new Treo from Verizon with more features and bluetooth. Just my opinion.
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japultra said:
if it's 65k, then why do the pictures look horrible?
Like I said man, it is definitely not 65k that MikeFYA is saying. The external lcd is far, far, worse that pitiful, you'll be disappointed in that but you can see it in direct sunlight. The pictures through the external lcd are horrible, you don't have to see it to believe that. I wish this question would stop being asked though but it is pitiful at best.
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ecko04 said:japultra said:
if it's 65k, then why do the pictures look horrible?
Like I said man, it is definitely not 65k that MikeFYA is saying. The external lcd is far, far, worse that pitiful, you'll be disappointed in that but you can see it in direct sunlight. The pictures through the external lcd are horrible, you don't have to see it to believe that.
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It's 64K as 64 x 1024 = 65536 colors. Pictures look horrible because of the resolution, not because of the color. 64K is basically 16bit color.
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MikeFYA said:
65k
The external lcd is definitely not 65k at all, that would make it on par with the a670 which it is not. It may be 256 colors if that much, it is not full color at all by any means. The Alchemist stated that it is possible to count the colors, it is not 65k at all.
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ecko04 said:MikeFYA said:
65k
The external lcd is definitely not 65k at all, that would make it on par with the a670 which it is not. It may be 256 colors if that much, it is not full color at all by any means. The Alchemist stated that it is possible to count the colors, it is not 65k at all.
I know very little about the validity of this, but:
"Large 1.3â 98 x 67 up to 4K color external display
Here's the full link:
http://www.wgamer.com/device/device-508&page=SPECS »
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npitlor said:
I know very little about the validity of this, but:
"Large 1.3â 98 x 67 up to 4K color external display
Here's the full link:
http://www.wgamer.com/device/device-508&page=SPECS
4k may be right but I definitely didn't see it.
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4K is not 65K colors. 4K is 4096 colors. 65K is really 64K = 65536 colors. So 4K is really 7 bit color. 8K=8192 would be 8 bit color.
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Almighty1 said:
4K is not 65K colors. 4K is 4096 colors. 65K is really 64K = 65536 colors. So 4K is really 7 bit color. 8K=8192 would be 8 bit color.
Actually 4K (4096) colors is 12 bit (2 to the power of 12). 8K (8192) colors is 13 bit (2 to the power of 13). 64K (65536) colors is 16 bit. Here's a page I found that gives a little explanation.
http://www.shortcourses.com/pixels/colordepth.htm »
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Oops, you're right. I was doing it in my head fast. Since 15bit color is 32768 colors and was known as Sierra Hi-Color in the early 1990's. 16 bit is 65536 or 64K and 17 bit is basically 128K colors so the number is always twice the previous size as each bit goes up. So 8 bit is 256 and 7 bit is 128.
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Alchemist..thanks for the info..much appreciated. Have a couple of questions for you. Did anyone talk about the mp3 playback features (i.e full song plaback off of the transflash?) at what bit rate can play files at? also, many peolple believe the phone to only playback in mono. I understand why they would think this being that all the current accessoreis have 1 speaker..but did motorols make a stereo headset for the unit, kinda like the samsung I700? which is stereo and has a mic so it doubles up as a hands free unit?
One onther thing..can you place your own mp3 ringtones on the phone?...thanks again for your input đ
One onther thing..can you place your own mp3 ringtones on the phone?...thanks again for your input đ
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I'm not too sure on the specs. There is full playback functionality off the transflash. Matter of fact, one of the reps had the movie Lilo & Stitch saved a 128mb transflash card. I didn't see any other accessories besides the two bluetooth headsets. I have color handouts of accessories and other information that I'll try to scan and post (if it's not proprietary information). I'll have to double check. From what I understand, yes, you can place your own mp3 ringtone on the phone. The phone only has 10mb built in memory, so you can't hold too much. I'm not sure about using a ringtone saved on the transflash card. I highly doubt you can. Who knows, didn't have enough time to play with it.
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eng50 said:
Thank you, thats bad news..the 7000 is very user friendly that way..hate to compromise but we shall see if its worth it...are the menus intuitive? or like prior moto phones?
I'm not going to compromise the ease of use of a LG for the troublesome Moto. I just don't see all the bugs being fixed with them tossing firmware on top of firmware on the phone. At least with the v710 you can hide the icons on the screen. Especially seeing as how the only hope you have for mp3's is the transflash. Yet if you need speakerphone and want a decent bluetooth feature then get the v710 and see how you can deal it.
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eng50 said:
Thank you, thats bad news..the 7000 is very user friendly that way..hate to compromise but we shall see if its worth it...are the menus intuitive? or like prior moto phones?
I also forgot to include in my previous post that in your phonebook you can choose to either display the primary contact information or have all of them listed meaning multiple entries or only display the primary contact. There is very little to no lag in the menu yet like it has been stated the camera leaves something to be desired but no one was expecting miracles.
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eng50 said:
Maybe a prior answered question, but can you put pics on the outer display? All the pictures of the 710 to date show that silly swirl in different colors...
No you can't put any pics on the outer display. The outer display cannot be altered or changed in any way. The reason for this is because the outter display can easily be seen in direct sunlight and at night very easily. The outer display also isn't really meant for taking pictures with neither.
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well are they gunna let u know what the pic is on the outer display cuz from HoFo pics and pics on here ive seen the purple design, blue ring design, and a tye dye design as wel.... answers??
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ecko meant that you can't actually put a picture on the outer display. i believe you can change the color and actual design but not replace it with a picture or have the capability of picture caller ID on the external display like the vx7000. it'll look the same but with a different color and design. nothing special.
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The Alchemist said:
ecko meant that you can't actually put a picture on the outer display. i believe you can change the color and actual design but not replace it with a picture or have the capability of picture caller ID on the external display like the vx7000. it'll look the same but with a different color and design. nothing special.
No you can't actually change the color neither, that is permanent. You cannot edit or alter it in any way. The external screen is like that and you cannot change it at all. There isn't a different color or style or design or anything you can put there. There is no option to change the external screen at all.
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then how come there are several different pix of the exterior screen that have different designs?
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Salx22 said:
then how come there are several different pix of the exterior screen that have different designs?
There aren't serveral different pix of the external screen. Look at the pictures that people have taken and I speak from having the phone before, there isn't an option anywhere to change the external screen in any way. Check the pix posted here as well as those i've taken, there isn't an option to change it.
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You're absolutely right because I didn't see that option in the settings.
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People lets use a little common sense. The Alchemist says MOTO has a system in place that allows for a 3 week delivery process to VZW. That is, after they call the order in. One could reasonably assume that the call has not been made as The Alchemist said he just returned (probably in the last couple of days) form the MOTO Conference. This would mean that, unless VZW called today, MOTO could not promise delivery before the 30th of July. This would mean that the phone would very possibly be released after the MOTO promotion ends (AUG!), especially if the Tuesday release theory hold true. Now if MOTO anticipated such a possibilty, as they did a few of weeks ago, they would be inclined to change the promotion date again. The fact that th...
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of July? no way. the conference was today and the order wasn't placed as of this afternoon. that promo date will no doubt change. we were handed the slicker of the that very same promotion and there was no expiration printed.
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Another answer is that MOT may anticipate selling 710 V710's via some other channel (than widespread VZW distribution), so the date may be "ok" if they believe at least 710 people can get their hands on the phone by Aug. 1. Either that or the promotion date will keep being pushed back.
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I know you said that you would not contact moto for anything other than important business. However I contacted them requesting info about whether a stereo headset adapter would be made available. While I do not plan on using this as an mp3 player much, the use of it on the train would be nice. Like most of the PDA phones and korea's vx8000, they have an adapter that is basically a mic with stereo headset plug attached. I was wondering if motorola made any mention of this accessory or if you could find out if it would be made available. Thanks again for the updates.
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Sorry about the question, but i can't resist.
What games does the v710 have? đ¤ You know, if you could take a look to the phone in the conference, i'm sure you checked the games đ
Thanks a lot! Cheers from Argentina đ
What games does the v710 have? đ¤ You know, if you could take a look to the phone in the conference, i'm sure you checked the games đ
Thanks a lot! Cheers from Argentina đ
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The phone most likely didn't have any games on it since it's a Get It Now phone so like VZW always does, they stripped it of all games so you're forced to download them using GIN.
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No games. Come on now... you VZW needs to milk you for everything you're worth. GIN is your only option.
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"Al"... thanks for the straight skinny on this forum. You are truly a breath of fresh air on this forum. I have always believed that this would be an awesome phone and you have confirmed it.
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Wait a minute everyone...I'm not trying to contradict what The Al has provided for us...Thanks Al...but I thought a couple of pages ago someone posted something about the phones being in the warehouse...it was by Clue I believe...he posted a link to but it was only accessible by VZW employees or VZW computers or something...so wouldn't this mean that the phone would be here sooner than 3 Weeks...Because I believe that Al you stated that part of the 3 week process was to ship Moto's inventory yo VZW warehouses...right...so...either I'm just really eager or this makes some sense...opinions please?
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Thanks for the info.
Can you relay any information about which of the upcoming MOTO phones, besides the 710, will have bluetooth?
Can you relay any information about which of the upcoming MOTO phones, besides the 710, will have bluetooth?
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Just a thought about the release date being at least three weeks away. From what I heard more then one person has been to trade show similar to this one and talked the Moto rep. and all had a different answer to some extent. My personal feeling on what she said is true but delayed. As far as we know the phone could have got the ok from verizon lets say on June 24th. Well if it takes three weeks to hit the selfs then the phone would be out by around the 16th which would be a day after the 15 days worry free guarentee policy. So for a number of people could not return their 7000 for the 710. Also, I honestly don't think that phonescoop would change their info if it wasn't suppose to be in july (although I could be wrong.). So I feeling sometim...
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