Motorola V710

dsnelson said:
Yeah, the fact that you have to be so close to establish Bluetooth contact makes infection seem highly unlikely, plus most folks (myself included) would likely leave it off until needed, since it's a battery drain.

Actually.....

If you want to just Bluejack somebody, you just make a pringles-can 2.4 GHz antenna.

And if you were spreading viruses, just think about a downtown city street. You'd get close to quite a lot of people.

Then picture each and every one of those phones placing calls and sending SMSes at the exact same time -- remember, every phone knows the current time if it's going to work on a CDMA network -- bringing down the network for a continuous hour.

I understand your theory here but let me ask you this -- Don't you need to accept an invitation for bluetooth to work?? I mean the v710 isn't in discovery mode unless you put it there. so unless you have the misfortune to be walking down that city street and piaring your phone to your headset then theperson trying to install the virus wouldn't even see your phone. let alone everyone's on the street even if the phones were on. The phone doesn't support dual lines of connection so if the bluetooth were on and in use the phone would not open another connection just to recieve the virus

a blutooth virus on this phone is not to my knowledge a viable thing.

rob

He is saying that if OBEX was on the phone there is a chance that it could be left on like on other BT phones. And no you do not need to accept/decline any BT invitation. Hackers can bypass anything they want to so I am sure that they have found out a way to bypass you accpeting the BT connection. But like he said before its all about trying to make money thru GIN. Its a good business plan and the majority of the people who have the v710 dont really care or even know what OBEX is.

You are completely right. My little brother has the nokia n-gage. First it will tell you you have a message. When you access the message if it is from someone not in the address book it will tell you that it is from an untrusted source. Then when you try to open it you get the same warning and to proceed with caution. Then if it trys to auto install it will give a warning and ask permission to install?

The only way you can send a file with a virus in it to a phone is first you need to be within 30 feet for the n-gage at least.

Say standing in line at a movie theater.

Then you need to know the persons number call them to send the data.

This could be done with a scanner. But the scanner needed is the size of a shoe box... a lit...
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spiff said:
I understand your theory here but let me ask you this -- Don't you need to accept an invitation for bluetooth to work??

See, that's the thing.

Some of the Bluetooth phones have a variety of bugs in their implementations that are discoverable all of the time, either by intent or because of some sort of accidental bug.

Or, alternatively, let users make their phone always discoverable. Because history bears me out when I say that most people forget that radio waves go in all directions, not just where it's immediately most convenient for them to go, it's pretty much a given that if you let people have their phones always pairable, always discoverable, at least a good percentage of them wil...
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Nope. Try a iPaq or other similar PDA with built-in Bluetooth.

I do not believe you can find out my phone number or bluethooth device registration number with any bluetooth device like a PDA.

You cannot use a PDA as a scanner. My information comes from a close relative who's job is to basically turn physics into computer code and who worked on the ARPANet at Columbia University.

wirehead said:
If you want to just Bluejack somebody, you just make a pringles-can 2.4 GHz antenna.

Can you do that with Bluetooth? I know it works with wi-fi.

I dunno, our PCs are far more capable of creating/transmitting viruses, but the ISPs don't break them for us to "protect the network". The whole thing reeks of bait-and-switch.

--Dave

Okay, so we'll start with a definition of terms:

IrDA = Wireless cable replacement over infrared. Very focused and directional
802.11b / 802.11g / WiFi = 2.4 GHz wireless "Ethernet" networking
802.11a = 5.4/5.8 GHz wireless "Ethernet" networking
Bluetooth = 2.4 GHz wireless cable replacement, and the intellectual successor to IrDA
Cantenna = One of the many easy-to-make-at-home high-gain (meaning you have a focused signal beam with long range, like a spotlight vs. a light bulb) antennas. Pringles cans are usually used.

Now, the first thing to remember is that, yes, Wifi and Bluetooth are on the same frequency. Microwaves and some cordless phones also share the band. Sometimes they stomp on each other. If your Microwave is inte...
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We all still have the same problem...just no solution....not becuase of a lack of trying.

I have called moto and vzw numberous times...but it really is frustrating to listen to idiots make things up, and who dont even know what obex is, let alone what bluetooth tech is all about.

I just wish I knew how to reach someone who actually knows something at moto or vzw.

Thanks for the lesson, wirehead.

--Dave