Motorola V710
Class Action
I propose class action litigation against Verizon Wireless for false advertising and failure to deliver product as advertised with respect to the incomplete implementation of the Bluetooth specification.
The V710 is advertised and packaged as having "Bluetooth," but wireless communication without OBEX is not the full Bluetooth protocol specification.
3 or more consumers = class action. Any takers?
The V710 is advertised and packaged as having "Bluetooth," but wireless communication without OBEX is not the full Bluetooth protocol specification.
3 or more consumers = class action. Any takers?
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That's why when it is advertised it say's features are network dependent.
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Actually, per the New York Times, as well as Verizon Wireless' own literature, the limitations are not due to the network, but programmed into the phone itself.
Saying features are network-dependant does not cover themselves for advertising features that are not available in -any- network.
Saying features are network-dependant does not cover themselves for advertising features that are not available in -any- network.
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Bringing a new definition of ambulance chaser? Is this an appropriate conversation for a member of the bar to have? Do you recall any discussions of professional ethics during your "professional" training?
Maybe you should sue your law school for malpractice.
Maybe you should sue your law school for malpractice.
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Namecalling in the forums is so boring.
I was under the impression that people are extremely disappointed with the lack of Bluetooth functionality. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
If I'm correct, then folks should make themselves heard, and maybe Verizon Wireless will change their policy as they indicated was possible in the NYT article. If VZW are unwilling to do this, then legal action is an appropriate avenue to either get the functionality or change the advertising.
I was under the impression that people are extremely disappointed with the lack of Bluetooth functionality. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
If I'm correct, then folks should make themselves heard, and maybe Verizon Wireless will change their policy as they indicated was possible in the NYT article. If VZW are unwilling to do this, then legal action is an appropriate avenue to either get the functionality or change the advertising.
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amen, lawyer! there's definitely some shady advertising as we all know! if ther's no action now, it'll get worse âšī¸
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Not only am I disapointed by the file transfer issue, I am afraid to take my, quite buggy, phone in for an OS update because I've heard they will be cripping the feature of being able to copy ringtones (and images?) to the phone. I bought this phone because I wasnt in to paying $2/per for a tone.
And on that note đ Has anyone gotten MP3 ringtones to work? Everytime I load one, it simply blips and wont play. WTF?
-PCWOOD
And on that note đ Has anyone gotten MP3 ringtones to work? Everytime I load one, it simply blips and wont play. WTF?
-PCWOOD
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I'm in as well, but I have a few concerns as to the terms and conditions that come with the phone. Arbitration agreement and such, how you get around their very extensive agreement. My salesperson at the verizon store i went to explicitly stated that the v710 was bluetooth enabled, she did not limit this statement in anyway.
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By showing the Bluetooth logo the phone must pass certification. So it is clearly a Bluetooth enabled phone. Second, nowhere in any Bluetooth document does it say in order to be called Bluetooth it must have the OBEX profile. Don't belive me, check out the qualification process. It can be qualified for one of dozens of possible Bluetooth profiles.
http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/ »
In short, you will be laughed out of court.
http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/ »
In short, you will be laughed out of court.
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I will support any litigation against Verizon.
I have been a loyal customer for almost 9 years and I am extremely aggrivated that they limit the phone as well as their service. Items like Get-It-Now, making you buy their ringer's is BS!
I have been a loyal customer for almost 9 years and I am extremely aggrivated that they limit the phone as well as their service. Items like Get-It-Now, making you buy their ringer's is BS!
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I've said this before, but IMO, they have made people less willing to use GIN or send a pic by disabling this functionality. I won't use GIN and, as someone else pointed out, the phone doesn't take pictures that are worth $.25.
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frank_the_tank said:
By showing the Bluetooth logo the phone must pass certification. So it is clearly a Bluetooth enabled phone. Second, nowhere in any Bluetooth document does it say in order to be called Bluetooth it must have the OBEX profile. Don't belive me, check out the qualification process. It can be qualified for one of dozens of possible Bluetooth profiles.
http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/ »
In short, you will be laughed out of court.
Bluetooth is a short range wireless networking technology that uses the same frequency band (2.4 GHz) as 802.11b wireless networks.
Imagine buying a 802.11b wireless notebook computer and taking it home with you, only to learn that it could not transfer files ...
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Count my ass in... By damn I want full functionality... Stuff like this needs to be deregulated...
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The only action that could force Verizon to make changes in situations such as this is if a large number of customers were to switch carriers. Putting the legality issue aside - I am not a lawyer - if only 5% of Verizon customers switched to another carrier because of this issue, the appropriate changes would likely be made over night. "Get it now" does not provide the primary revenue stream; your monthly fees for allotted minutes do.
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It would unfortunately come down to a financial decision on their part: 1) the cost of litigation and possible settlement, or 2) the perceived (or contractual) loss to their "Get It Now" content providors. This was the reason the New York Times cited them as giving for disabling the Bluetooth OBEX (file sharing) capability- they didn't want people swapping around paid ringtones and such. The article implied that they were contractual with the content providors to do this.
I personally couldn't give two hoots about ringtones, but would really love my (expensive) little phone to join the 21st century and be able to sync contacts with my laptop or send images to the computer as implied by the advertised Bluetooth capability.
I personally couldn't give two hoots about ringtones, but would really love my (expensive) little phone to join the 21st century and be able to sync contacts with my laptop or send images to the computer as implied by the advertised Bluetooth capability.
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From the CNET review:
Verizon said it limited the Bluetooth functionality to protect security agreements with its Get It Now partners. It promises a software upgrade in the future but only for address book syncing.
Verizon said it limited the Bluetooth functionality to protect security agreements with its Get It Now partners. It promises a software upgrade in the future but only for address book syncing.
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I can survive with that, transferring contacts is more important to me than transferring pics or ringers. Besides I've already got a 128mb T-Flash for that.
I hope the update comes and it doesn't mess with the T-Flash.
I hope the update comes and it doesn't mess with the T-Flash.
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Verizon is GREEDY.
They need to allow us to send our photo's to out Blue toothe enabled PC or PDA Without them getting money for it.
That is WRONG!
They need to allow us to send our photo's to out Blue toothe enabled PC or PDA Without them getting money for it.
That is WRONG!
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American User said:
Verizon is GREEDY.
They need to allow us to send our photo's to out Blue toothe enabled PC or PDA Without them getting money for it.
That is WRONG!
"Greedy" is what the market will bear.
Apparently not enough customers care about BT crippling (at least not enough YET) to cause VZW to announce action, BUT it seems they are working on something, so it seems to me the "raised voices" have been heard.
Perhaps "patience" should be the watchword rather than "lawsuit".
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American User said:
Verizon is GREEDY.
They need to allow us to send our photo's to out Blue toothe enabled PC or PDA Without them getting money for it.
That is WRONG!
Please explain, using diagrams where appropriate, why sending photos via Bluetooth without being compensated for it is greedy. Furthermore, please provide, with reference to laws currently on the book, how this is illegal. Laws that "Should be" on the book are not included here. "Anti-trust" and the "AT&T Settlement" are also not to be included unless you actually understand what they mean. Finally, explain why you didn't return your phone to Verizon within the 15 day waiting period, with the option of returning to pick up the v710...
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I am more than willing to get involved in this, but as a Verizon Subscriber I think any Verizon user has agreed to Arbitration via the signature on the contract. Are we still able to get on this class action? Are you really with a law firm that would take up this endeavor? Or, are you simply saying you think this merits a Class Action Lawsuit? If the information from the NYT's and other sources are true then it is pretty bad what Verizon has done to us to further its monetary gain at consumer loss model. However, I doubt I am the only one who calls VZW and asks if there have been complaints on the v710 and a response of "nope." is given. If you are serious then please give us contact infomation to send correspondance regarding this leg...
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I am really thinking about purchasing this phone, however this issue that I am reading about really raises the question, why would anyone want the phone if Verizon has crippled the bluetooth connectivity? It really makes me mad--and to further my anger, heres a quote from the phone description of the V710 on Verizon's website:
'The Motorola V710 is a phone and a whole lot more. Featuring an integrated 1.2 megapixel camera, video capture, playback and messaging to any email address, and Mobile Web 2.0, it's a phone that is designed for the way you live. And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
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'The Motorola V710 is a phone and a whole lot more. Featuring an integrated 1.2 megapixel camera, video capture, playback and messaging to any email address, and Mobile Web 2.0, it's a phone that is designed for the way you live. And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
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People and this society are too litigous, so drop discussion of a class action suit. Why can't you folks take ownership of your own actions and just return the phone if you are that unhappy (Verizon would probable take it back if you are all that unhappy)....this is not life and death and you are talking about a couple hundred bucks or less. Give it a break. The threshhold for lawsuits should be much higher than this type of petty stuff.
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QuasiMoto said:
People and this society are too litigous, so drop discussion of a class action suit. Why can't you folks take ownership of your own actions and just return the phone if you are that unhappy (Verizon would probable take it back if you are all that unhappy)....this is not life and death and you are talking about a couple hundred bucks or less. Give it a break. The threshhold for lawsuits should be much higher than this type of petty stuff.
Well said. I guess I can add my 2 cents to this. Your under contract for your min allowances, not the features of the phone. Verizon has given the option of many phones, and you chose that phone. Verizon (from my understanding) has not guarenteed any fea...
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I agree that americans sue too much over frivolous things, however I'd like to point out in the phone description on verizon's website that there is nothing about the phone that indicates that you have to pay to transfer pictures and mp3's for ringtones to your phone. Further, according to this statement on the site:
'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
From the multiple reviews I have read, you cannot connect the phone 'hands free' to your PC or PDA via bluetooth. You supposedly have to buy the data cable which verizon doesnt even offer in their online store--that is according to Motorola. Also, the Ad for the phone is blat...
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'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
From the multiple reviews I have read, you cannot connect the phone 'hands free' to your PC or PDA via bluetooth. You supposedly have to buy the data cable which verizon doesnt even offer in their online store--that is according to Motorola. Also, the Ad for the phone is blat...
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im rick james bitch
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rickjamess said:
I agree that americans sue too much over frivolous things, however I'd like to point out in the phone description on verizon's website that there is nothing about the phone that indicates that you have to pay to transfer pictures and mp3's for ringtones to your phone. Further, according to this statement on the site: but has verizon said it woule give it to you free? You assume that it would be free from motorola. The vzw site says supported optional feaures get it now..
'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
From the multiple reviews I have read, you cannot connect the phone 'hands free' to your...
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I agree that americans sue too much over frivolous things, however I'd like to point out in the phone description on verizon's website that there is nothing about the phone that indicates that you have to pay to transfer pictures and mp3's for ringtones to your phone. Further, according to this statement on the site: but has verizon said it woule give it to you free? You assume that it would be free from motorola. The vzw site says supported optional feaures get it now..
'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
From the multiple reviews I have read, you cannot connect the phone 'hands free' to your...
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but has verizon said it woule give it to you free? You assume that it would be free from motorola. The vzw site says supported optional feaures get it now..
My point here is that Verizon is being misleading and not telling the consumer that the bluetooth is crippled due to get it now. Nowhere in the description of the phone does it say that, nor anywhere else on the site--and I have spent sometime looking for it. According to the phone description, you supposedly get all those features--which is obviously not the case. Also, the description of the phone indicates that the features it lists are fully functional--so technically you are paying for them when you purchase
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Actually, rickjamess, read this statement carefully:
'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
You can actually do all of these things. This statement does not imply that you can sync your contacts and calender, etc. between phone and computer/PDA via BT.
I use my v710 with both my PDA and my laptop PC. I "connect to" these to allow me to surf the internet via a wireless connection in remote locations.
There may be other places where they are misleading people, but I disagree with what you are saying here - from both a personal and legal perspecive.
'And with Bluetooth wireless technology, you can make hands-free, eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want.'
You can actually do all of these things. This statement does not imply that you can sync your contacts and calender, etc. between phone and computer/PDA via BT.
I use my v710 with both my PDA and my laptop PC. I "connect to" these to allow me to surf the internet via a wireless connection in remote locations.
There may be other places where they are misleading people, but I disagree with what you are saying here - from both a personal and legal perspecive.
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QuasiMoto said:
People and this society are too litigous, so drop discussion of a class action suit. Why can't you folks take ownership of your own actions and just return the phone if you are that unhappy (Verizon would probable take it back if you are all that unhappy)....this is not life and death and you are talking about a couple hundred bucks or less. Give it a break. The threshhold for lawsuits should be much higher than this type of petty stuff.
In this society, we don't take people out back and pump two in the back of their heads - we don't gather the people responsible and hang them from a rope on the nearest tree -
We bring suit against them. That's the way things are done in America.
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Well if any of you guys have PrePaid Legal Services you could have a lawyer right a letter on your behalf to Verizon. How do I get PrePaid Legal Services you ask? Go here: www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/ebland
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In this society, we don't take people out back and pump two in the back of their heads - we don't gather the people responsible and hang them from a rope on the nearest tree -
We bring suit against them. That's the way things are done in America.
I'm all for a class action suit against Verizon. The best evidence for such a suit can be found on the nuclear elephant page:
http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html »
It's high time somebody brought up this idea. Sadly - companies like Verizon don't respond to customer complaints - maybe they'll respond if it looks like they are going to see money coming out of their pocket.
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bla blah blah. verizon sucks. theyre screwing us. theyre gonna keep screwing us to make more money. we gotta let em know were p2ssed. i already let them know. the only way to get through to corporate america is to bitch bitch bitch!! it's unfortunate, but if we just sit back and let verizon take us for a ride, they'll drop us off at skid row and rob the crap out of us. (they already are). asking for a phone's key features to be turned on isn't asking alot. sue if you have to. its your right.
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I absolutely agree.
Last weeek I spent an hour just raising wholy hell, getting names and phone numbers of who is responsible for this mess.
The $400 phone is not the total issue, I have a $40,000 car that can not function in it's safest capacity, due to Verizon.
Last weeek I spent an hour just raising wholy hell, getting names and phone numbers of who is responsible for this mess.
The $400 phone is not the total issue, I have a $40,000 car that can not function in it's safest capacity, due to Verizon.
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Of course it is. Here I am driving down the highway, taking my eyes off the road to dial this little phone when I don't need to be.
My BMW, purchased in August, came with the integrated Bluetooth kit, and all I can do is "HOPE" that Verizon is going to fix this issue.
For now, hope is the only practical option, since the store manager said they WOULD fix the problem, just not saying WHEN.
My BMW, purchased in August, came with the integrated Bluetooth kit, and all I can do is "HOPE" that Verizon is going to fix this issue.
For now, hope is the only practical option, since the store manager said they WOULD fix the problem, just not saying WHEN.
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I am in a similar situation and I have investigated the possibility of a class action lawsuit. Are you attempting to use the phone with a BMW? If so, it does not work. I appreciate your response.
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Poser said:
I am in a similar situation and I have investigated the possibility of a class action lawsuit. Are you attempting to use the phone with a BMW? If so, it does not work. I appreciate your response.
Yes.
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I'm in. Read my earlier post today.
Verizon is denying me from integrating my phone into my Bluetooth car, and causing irrepairable and reckless endangerment, while they play games holding back technology that Motorola has already developed into the Bluetooth handsets.
I purchased my car and phone together in the same month. Now I feel that I have been deceived, and left with very few choices.
Verizon is denying me from integrating my phone into my Bluetooth car, and causing irrepairable and reckless endangerment, while they play games holding back technology that Motorola has already developed into the Bluetooth handsets.
I purchased my car and phone together in the same month. Now I feel that I have been deceived, and left with very few choices.
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I'm In too... I'm really getting tired of this. I can't believe that they advertised this wonderful bluetooth phone, and then pulled out just about every useful part of the BT.
~Jake
~Jake
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EXACTLY!!!! That is why I chose the Audiovox CDM-9900 and paid $49, no wait sorry, I got mine for free!!!!!!! with my $100 every 2. Can't beat that deal! Verizon cripples blue-tooth and there is nothing crippled on the CDM-9900. I suggest anyone who has the opportunity to return their V710 and buy the CDM-9900 instead. The screen on the CDM-9900 blows the V710 away. The 9900 is made in JAPAN which means QUALITY AND NO PROBLEMS. Just look at the reviews on the CDM-9900 there are no negative whatsoever. All are positive. Oh, and I don't count not being able to turn off the start-up and shut-down sounds. WAY TO GO AUDIOVOX! BRAVO! NO CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AND HEADACHS!
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I shipped mine back to vzw yesterday. I'm going to wait for my contract to end and then switch carrier.
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PHANTOM_LORD said:
EXACTLY!!!! That is why I chose the Audiovox CDM-9900 and paid $49, no wait sorry, I got mine for free!!!!!!! with my $100 every 2. Can't beat that deal! Verizon cripples blue-tooth and there is nothing crippled on the CDM-9900.
This phone does not have Bluetooth, though.
Which Verizon phone do you get if you need Bluetooth to integrate with your car?
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I agree because I attempted to use it with my BMW and it was a no go. I also investigated the likelyhood of a firmware update from Motorola and was told last month that none was being offered by Verizon. When I asked to have the phone replaced with a different phone (since bluetooth was nonfunctional) Verizon refused. So I left Verizon and went to Cingular and bought the Razor which works without any problems from day one.
Let me know your experience and whether you would be interested in a class action suit.
Let me know your experience and whether you would be interested in a class action suit.
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I agree because I attempted to use it with my BMW and it was a no go. I also investigated the likelyhood of a firmware update from Motorola and was told last month that none was being offered by Verizon. When I asked to have the phone replaced with a different phone (since bluetooth was nonfunctional) Verizon refused. So I left Verizon and went to Cingular and bought the Razor which works without any problems from day one.
Let me know your experience and whether you would be interested in a class action suit.
Similar situation. Leaving Verizon was not an option because we have several phones contracted under the same plan.
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I'm in on it as well, I will do whatever to get it going.
What can i do to help???
What can i do to help???
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Yes. I am in too. Tell me what your requirements are and we should have a conference.
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Here is the problem with your call action suit as i see it. Say in some way you were able to win your hopeless case. Well all the people in your class would get some thing stupid like a 15 dollar headset or a 5 dollar check and you would get a nice big huge check -- class action is a way for the lawyer to jump in and screw the consumer too.
also after i got my 5 dollars and you got you couple of hundred thou motorola would just recoup the cost by raising the price of the next phone i want 10 dollars so the 5 i got from you would just cover half of the increase and the other half i have to pay reall would just go to you.
so tell me this why don't you start a thread asking all the users here to send you 5 bucks at least it would be an ho...
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also after i got my 5 dollars and you got you couple of hundred thou motorola would just recoup the cost by raising the price of the next phone i want 10 dollars so the 5 i got from you would just cover half of the increase and the other half i have to pay reall would just go to you.
so tell me this why don't you start a thread asking all the users here to send you 5 bucks at least it would be an ho...
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Honestly I cannot believe we are still sitting here debating filing a class action lawsuit against Verizon Wireless about the mis-wording of the functionality of bluetooth... Is anyone else seeing the forum being clogged with this stuff, and when people have questions it being overlooked? I think thats when the line should be drawn... nonetheless good points spiff
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I agree 100%. This issue has been beaten into the ground. Until someone straps one on and does something, let's drop it hear. Go create a bitch site so people that actually like and/or work with they phone can communicate.
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Yeah seriously I am so sick and tired of this thread. Whoever does this is the stupidest person on earth. You will lose and look stupid. You guys are like the people who are against rapper Eminem. They buy his CDs just to protest against him in the streets by destroying them. Eminem is still making boatloads of money whether you listen to the album or not but you still bought it. Moto and VZW probably read this forum every day and laugh at you guys. "Look at these idiots...They bought the phone and want to bitch about it after they bought it...hahahahaha." Thats exactly what theyre sitting back and saying. Just get over it...accept the fact that the phoen doesnt have OBEX and sell it on ebay if you dont like it. I dont see why you guys have...
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i disagree. i like the phone đ but i want the problems taken care of đĄ. that isn't too much to ask when the issues are soooo very fixable. đ˛ im lookin in to the alltel version right now đ
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look i would like this phone to operate in the way i feel it should also but here is the crux if the issue. One that alot of people here don't understand. Verizon is a company not a deemocracy -- they do things that they think will improve their bottom line.
The things you think are problems are their doing. They want them that way. They don't feel they are problems. therefore easily fixed or not you most likely won't see a compleatly functional bluetooth phone from verizon weather you want it or not.
THEY DON'T THINK THESE ISSUES ARE PROBLEMS -- TO THEM THE PHONE IS FUNCTIONING IN THE WAY IT SHOULD -- LIKE THEY INTENDED -- SO THEY CAN GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT OR I WANT OR ALL OF US HERE OR ON HOFOF WANT YOU SEE WE ARE A SMAL...
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The things you think are problems are their doing. They want them that way. They don't feel they are problems. therefore easily fixed or not you most likely won't see a compleatly functional bluetooth phone from verizon weather you want it or not.
THEY DON'T THINK THESE ISSUES ARE PROBLEMS -- TO THEM THE PHONE IS FUNCTIONING IN THE WAY IT SHOULD -- LIKE THEY INTENDED -- SO THEY CAN GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT OR I WANT OR ALL OF US HERE OR ON HOFOF WANT YOU SEE WE ARE A SMAL...
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nevertheless, if we don't voice our concerns then any issues we have most definitely will not be taken care of. why? because, like you said before, they are a corporation who cares about nothing but the bottom line. the only thing that gets their attention is dollar signs âšī¸. so if they want my dollars then they'd better listen. ALOT of v710 owners feel the same way. đĄ
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I don't know if alot of V710 owners feel the same way -- my dealings would have me believe that the majority of V710 owners aren't even aware that the phone could operate in a different fashion -- they are happy to have the headset profile and most probably don't even use the dun profile let a lone realize the obex is deactivated. the thing to do here is hope that people like superdave can fix it on their own and share the flash with us. Like i said 1% of their customer base can threaten to leave over this issue and they won't notice more people then that leave because they want a red phone and verizon doesn't offer one of become verizon customers because in the one venue that really matters the phone and verizon service excel and that is se...
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whoops let me finish i think that it is a shame that verizon feels that the number of people who would circumvent gin with bluetooth warrants this kind or retardation of the phones functionality. But they have their reasons they must think it will hurt their bottom line and that is why they are in business so i say here at phone scoop and at hofo you are preaching to the quire -- you see we all feel the same way and understand the issue -- your real problem is getting verizon to even see it as a problem -- you should be spending your time writing verizon and calling them and motorola too and let them listen to you -- no one here needs to hear any more on the subject unless there is a fix -- we can't do anything for you you are pissing in the...
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im not asking for you to do anything. im just saying that i am doing something. i am b@tchin at verizon and motorola. losing 1% of there customer base would get there attention. thats many millions of dollars. im just saying that im doing what i can and i hope it works. otherwise i'll be part of the 1% that leave âšī¸
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spiff said:
cool me too
Yeah, cool me too !
I agree with the users of this forum, that we really don't need to turn this into a "Verizon vs. the World" issue about Bluetooth.
A Class Action Lawsuit would probably get some of us a free headset (or something) in a few years and not much more. The lawyers would probably get hundreds of thousands of dollars and who knows what Verizon would be put through, whether they win or not.
To me it is amazing that VZW can't simply post a FAQ about whether the Bluetooth issues will be resolved, specifically what will be restored and when.
The advances in technology have been great for all of us. I love my V710 for all of the right reasons and I think Veriz...
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In the end... we as consumers don't really need lawyers and class action suits for things like this. To make along story short, if you don't like your bluetooth being crippled than you always have the right to take your bussiness to another carrier. Verizon should take that in to consideration as well.
Just my $.02 worth.
Just my $.02 worth.
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It is happening now.
Call Laura DiGirolamo
Kirtland and Packard, (310) 536-1000, 2361 Rosecrans Ave Ste 450, El Segundo, CA 90245
If you live in California and would be willing to give testimony, it will happer quicker. I live in NJ.
Let's get what we bought.
Call Laura DiGirolamo
Kirtland and Packard, (310) 536-1000, 2361 Rosecrans Ave Ste 450, El Segundo, CA 90245
If you live in California and would be willing to give testimony, it will happer quicker. I live in NJ.
Let's get what we bought.
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Lawsuit??? I get much quicker action than that.... All I have to do is take my service to Cingular when my contract expires!!!!
I only signed one year contract and that was almost 5 months ago... so in 7 months... I'm free with no penalty to pay!!!!
I've been with VZW for a long time but what they have done to this phone and their general lack of customer service has me convinced to take my bushiness elsewhere.
By the time I am with Cingular with my new Razor or maybe MPx.... your lawsuit will not have even gotten off the ground very well.
I wish you good luck with though because it is my opion that a company does not have a right to cripple the functions of the phone to force you to use their network to transfer data to a phone that h...
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I only signed one year contract and that was almost 5 months ago... so in 7 months... I'm free with no penalty to pay!!!!
I've been with VZW for a long time but what they have done to this phone and their general lack of customer service has me convinced to take my bushiness elsewhere.
By the time I am with Cingular with my new Razor or maybe MPx.... your lawsuit will not have even gotten off the ground very well.
I wish you good luck with though because it is my opion that a company does not have a right to cripple the functions of the phone to force you to use their network to transfer data to a phone that h...
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So I got off the phone with the law firm that wnrussell posted about and they are seriously looking in to this. I figure that, as wnrussell's occasional arch-nemesis, I'd be the best person to confirm things. ;) I chatted with Laura DiGirolamo about the phone, the various issues we've encountered, and such and tried to help They believe that there is enough to make a case on based on existing laws. She has no problems with me posting her email address (lmd@KirtlandPackard.com) and invites people with new and useful information to email her -- but please don't waste her time. Also, for a variety of reasons, it's much more useful to her if you are a Californian.
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wirehead said:
She has no problems with me posting her email address (lmd@KirtlandPackard.com) and invites people with new and useful information to email her -- but please don't waste her time. Also, for a variety of reasons, it's much more useful to her if you are a Californian.
There's more here, but it's in *everybody's* best interest if I keep my mouth shut and stay vauge. However, you'll have to trust us that things are in motion.
I agree. Email her if you are a Californian and let's just sit back and see what happens.
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cp_lawyer said:
I propose class action litigation against Verizon Wireless for false advertising and failure to deliver product as advertised with respect to the incomplete implementation of the Bluetooth specification.
The V710 is advertised and packaged as having "Bluetooth," but wireless communication without OBEX is not the full Bluetooth protocol specification.
3 or more consumers = class action. Any takers?
The suit was filed last Thursday.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid ... »
You should email the attorneys if you live in California, according to the post.
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