Motorola Droid

voyagerboy said:
if the problems i have are "user releated" please explain to me how i can get the gps to not say im not in poland and i am also currently working with verizon field techs to resolve the issue of no data and the tech addmitted the speeds he was seeing were "unnacceptable" to qoute him.

The GPS problem and the video playback problem are probably related to the data throughput problems, but that is a network problem, not a phone problem, and would likely plague any verizon phone in your area. which might also explain why your friends are having issues with data too. One reason you might notice it more on the Droid than on your previous phone is that Droid uses significantly more bandwidth, and because it can run widgets and such in the background, perhaps you are running something that needs data in the background, which if you have marginal data connectivity, could cause problems. There's even some widgets out there that can cause problems locking up if they don't have a data connection; and most of them don't like to be switched back and forth between wifi and 3G.

and in regards to me still having a droid, i have heavily contemplated leaving verizon although sprint is my only other option since i had major problems with atnt in 02'. money related issues not tech,

And yet you claim that Verizon data is a "ripoff", even though At&t *the carrier for your precious iphone) charges more, and caps your data. Interesting assertion.

but i continue to keep verizon because they are addressing the issues and they keep giving me new phones for free, im tryin for the droid-pro now, persistence is key. and i do have two other friends that have original droids, and they complain of problems also but they look the other way because the droid does work to some degree, and quite frankly, they dont have anyother choice for smartphones on verizon. which ironically is the exact reason why all you guys defend this phone so strongly.

the assertion that there aren't other smartphones on verizon is patently false. Verizon has several versions of Blackberry, there's also several Windows Mobile phones, like the Omnia2, TouchPro2, etc. None of them work as well as Droid, but that's a different part of the equation, and probably has a huge part in the reason Android is the best selling mobile phone OS right now.

and in regards to me not willing to "learn" the phone, thats just plain stupid since ive been leaving posts on this site for the last year now regarding various issues.

I'm going to echo what Menno said. There's a difference between "leaving posts" and "trying to learn." Especially when you refuse to take simple troubleshooting steps or suggestions to try to isolate the problem, and instead simply come back with some other unrelated problem. Well, I use unrelated loosely, because I'm convinced, as Menno is, that 99% of your problems are caused by the user, and as such, it would be a related problem....


Also in regards to me being stupid and not knowing how to use the phone, well thats just stupid too, the issues ive described are all internal and have no option to troubleshoot...ie how do i make the gps put me in the right continent, or how do i get the bluetooth to stop not connecting out of no-where.

Again, this is patently false. I hate to bring it up again, but do you remember the whole long-press issue? That is certainly not an "internal" problem, but knowing that little trick eliminated a fairly significant number of your original complaint list. Shall I look up the posts? It might be fun to bump some of those old posts so we can look at the claims item by item and see which ones are "internal" and which ones are "operator headspace". Or wait, by "internal" was that a freudian slip and you were intending to imply "internal to yourself"? That might make more sense...

Did you know the GPS can be manually set to report a "fake" location for testing purposes? Did you that some app developers set that and forget to unset that, so if you have a menu option changed to allow it, launching the program will cause the app to report the fake location and override your real GPS location? Do you remember that Menno and I have suggested in the past that maybe some of your problems with apps has to do with which apps you are downloading? Probably not, but I could go back and dredge up those posts, too, if you like.

p.s. you people should be thanking me for being such a consumer patriot, instead of this public lynching!!

If there was more than a minuscule iota of truth to your claims, then maybe you'd be getting those thanks. As it stands, I'll point back to Menno's posts about the Droid2 having the highest phone satisfaction rating every for a Verizon phone. That's information I wouldn't have access to, or if I do, I don't know how to look it up. Clearly, the vast majority of consumers do not have the problems you are having. Which means that at the very least, your claims about the phone's being junk is demonstrably false. Unless you have the worst luck in the world; if that's the case, I would suggest you never buy a car, lest you get a steady stream of manufacturer defective models.