Next Gen VZW phones.
Well I've been waiting months for the V710 and I finally made it to the VZW store and was extremely dissapointed. For one, the keypad is made of that bubble, plastic fisher price material, and the send/end buttons are reversed from past Moto phones. Does anyone know the models of next generation VZW moto phones. I'm thinking about switching to ATT for the V620. Plus, the offer 7pm nights.
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why would you switch to GSM all of a sudden...? if you're switching at all, look at sprint, not ATTWS... which we should all just call ATTNotCingularYet... why would you wanna go to ATTWS though? It's GSM and, besides the fact that they have been bought by Cingular... you're switching for a better phone that might not work as well? I'd look at Sprint if I were you.
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Because VZW isn't as cool as they think they are. Yes, ATTWS is GSM. Guess what? That just means it's BETTER than VZW. And yeah, ATT may be in the middle of being bought out, but that only means that ATT is in the middle of a HUGE cleanup and is offering awesome deals on an awesome new gsm platform..which will be even BETTER when it is merged with a SUPERIOR Cingular GSM network. Maybe this guy is looking down that short road which is leading to a new number 1. and ifhe can get a badass deal on a phone he actually likes, all the sweeter. Oh, and WHO THE HELL recommends Sprint anymore? Are you in a town with only a Sprint tower and a ham radio? c'mon. Sprint does have some coverage in a few cities that isn't marred by the constant dropped cal...
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Because VZW isn't as cool as they think they are. Yes, ATTWS is GSM. Guess what? That just means it's BETTER than VZW. And yeah, ATT may be in the middle of being bought out, but that only means that ATT is in the middle of a HUGE cleanup and is offering awesome deals on an awesome new gsm platform..which will be even BETTER when it is merged with a SUPERIOR Cingular GSM network. Maybe this guy is looking down that short road which is leading to a new number 1. and ifhe can get a badass deal on a phone he actually likes, all the sweeter. Oh, and WHO THE HELL recommends Sprint anymore? Are you in a town with only a Sprint tower and a ham radio? c'mon. Sprint does have some coverage in a few cities that isn'
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hey pal, actually, if you were on this forum for more than 2 days than you would know exactly who i am... i'm the cingular guy who is always correcting jokers who don't know what the heck they're talking about. like you for instance.
It's funny... you go on vacation and when you come back, the new guy thinks he's been here longer because he hasn't ever seen your posts.
And as far as my "snottiness", jackass. read the post i responded to of YOURS. You tried to make a customer feel like a loser because he wanted to chose ATT over VZW and you get huffy because I called you on YOUR snottiness. Typical.
It's funny... you go on vacation and when you come back, the new guy thinks he's been here longer because he hasn't ever seen your posts.
And as far as my "snottiness", jackass. read the post i responded to of YOURS. You tried to make a customer feel like a loser because he wanted to chose ATT over VZW and you get huffy because I called you on YOUR snottiness. Typical.
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hey pal, actually, if you were on this forum for more than 2 days than you would know exactly who i am... i'm the cingular guy who is always correcting jokers who don't know what the heck they're talking about. like you for instance.
It's funny... you go on vacation and when you come back, the new guy thinks he's been here longer because he hasn't ever seen your posts.
And as far as my "snottiness", jackass. read the post i responded to of YOURS. You tried to make a customer feel like a loser because he wanted to chose ATT over VZW and you get huffy because I called you on YOUR snottiness. Typical.
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...ash... said:
all hail cain, for he has no idea what i was talking about, but was here longer than i. all praise be to cain...
how dare i so much as think that i was intelligent before consulting him and gaining approval to post... what was a i thinking?? clearly this is an indication of my snottiness; for as it was stated by you, the bearer of all wireless knowledge and correcter of all forum jokers (!?!) i don't know what the heck i'm tallking about.
let me know when i'm worthy enough in your eyes to speak, master.
I know EXACTLY what you were talking about. You said "why would you go with ATT? they're GSM" like it was some sort of insult. "you're getting a better phone that might not work". impl...
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Why not switch to GSM? GSM is just as valid a technology as CDMA has ever been. Bottom line on both types is THEY WORK! I'm not gonna company bash, and I'm not gonna personally flame. I'm just gonna let a few points fly and ask a couple of questions and be on my way.
First, what is your beef with GSM? It's obviously a valid technology, I mean most of Europe MANDATES it for heaven's sake! I've tried both (in fact I currently own a CDMA phone) and frankly I like the call quality on GSM phones better. Sounds more like the person I know I'm talkin to. The phone selection with GSM is usually (key word) better or at least wider. And if you look ahead, you won't have to get a loaner when you go on that trip to France you've always wante...
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First, what is your beef with GSM? It's obviously a valid technology, I mean most of Europe MANDATES it for heaven's sake! I've tried both (in fact I currently own a CDMA phone) and frankly I like the call quality on GSM phones better. Sounds more like the person I know I'm talkin to. The phone selection with GSM is usually (key word) better or at least wider. And if you look ahead, you won't have to get a loaner when you go on that trip to France you've always wante...
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i don't have beef with gsm. i was only suggesting that maybe he might not want to change technologies... even three months ago i had no idea there was even a difference. one or the other isn't better, i suppose. it's where you live and what you want. i was suggesting that if verizon worked well for him (service wise), then cdma works well where he is; and rather than risk something to stick with the same technology. it's all good man, i really wasn't trying to sound snotty with that post, i promise..
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As an expert on ash when she's snotty :sarcasm: I can assure you that was NOT snotty...lol
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phonepimp3376 said:
As an expert on ash when she's snotty :sarcasm: I can assure you that was NOT snotty...lol
hahaha pp when did you become endearing? it looks like i can't hate you anymore... oh well now i just have to hate that cain ass now.. haha 😲
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Hey, we can agree to disagree and not wanna lynch each other, right? Lol
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oh I've been awake since about, 8:00 got in about 9:00...jsyt been going through the morning routine...reading the paper...doing the crossword, drinkin some coffee...how was I to know that there was bonding going on in here...usually the good stuff doesn't start till after noon anyway hehehe
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Rode my bike into work today... 15 mile ride makes one too tired to fight much...lol
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Didn't he have that Branson trip? Maybe he was abducted by Mel Tillis impersonators or something.
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Pam Tillis' dad... famous stuttering country music singer from the 70's...lol
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eh, I've been on. Just haven't been any good ones I've felt like jumping in on. The USCC forum sucks, it's all people wanting sublock codes. 😕
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Wow, that was way out there PP... Let's see how you Cingular Glory Boy likes his service when he gets back to LV
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😁 awwwww everyone made up I'm gettin this warm feeling.......
.......I gotta vist the little boy's room 🤭
.......I gotta vist the little boy's room 🤭
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ok now, this is interesting i have been syting on you guys from the background, and no a word from King Froggie boy, and no VZW bashin, what am i do too, with no soap to watch...work has become so boring!!! come guys....help a poor girl out. 😉 😎
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I hate verizon wireless soley because I hate all thing that have the letter "V" in it 😉
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Yeah, and anything that sounds like 'horizon' because no matter how fast I run I can't get to the damn thing!
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God that's gotta be frustrating!
Who would ever want a carrier who associates themselves with horizons? lol
Who would ever want a carrier who associates themselves with horizons? lol
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maybe so, but now I hate verizon more for being told i was stupid by a man who has a "V" in his handle..... 😲
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Rant rant argue argue....... Dyingunman makes a random comment that has nothing do do with the topic he knows nothing about:
PP: Do Yoy know how many towers Cingular will have after the merger moron?
DG: I like PIE! 😁
PP: Do Yoy know how many towers Cingular will have after the merger moron?
DG: I like PIE! 😁
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Not an exact figure, because the FCC could change the game a bit, but over 40,000 if they don't go too crazy. Its around 46,000 prior to pruning.
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So does The Rock, but he's not here screaming it! Quiet down, brainless!
*maybe lyvonne feels more at home now!*
*maybe lyvonne feels more at home now!*
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Maybe he should be,
Or maybe I should Rant about how your wrong and everthing you say is basied in lies and deceit..
And that Satan! 😈 Thats right Satan himself told you to spread these lies to anger everone here, and feul his power, so that he would reciveth the earth cometh judgement day! 👿
Just so you could sell Cell Phones.... you sick SICK bastard....
BTW: the rock is a big man dammit and he has BIG needs.....
stupid moron (explitve deleted) 😛
Or maybe I should Rant about how your wrong and everthing you say is basied in lies and deceit..
And that Satan! 😈 Thats right Satan himself told you to spread these lies to anger everone here, and feul his power, so that he would reciveth the earth cometh judgement day! 👿
Just so you could sell Cell Phones.... you sick SICK bastard....
BTW: the rock is a big man dammit and he has BIG needs.....
stupid moron (explitve deleted) 😛
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Maybe you should!
Or maybe I should rant about what a pitiful little company T-Mobile is, and how they all suffer from penis envy when they look at big bad Cingular spanking dat azz.
Not to mention how you, DG, founded the First Church of Silly Statements, and preach lunacy and JD Powers all day long... ooops, sorry, that was VZWMan...lol
Or maybe I should rant about what a pitiful little company T-Mobile is, and how they all suffer from penis envy when they look at big bad Cingular spanking dat azz.
Not to mention how you, DG, founded the First Church of Silly Statements, and preach lunacy and JD Powers all day long... ooops, sorry, that was VZWMan...lol
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First Off, and I speak for VZW man as well (let me do the talking VZWman) even though he has the dreaded "V" in his name, and I hate him for it. When I say that me VZW man and EVERONE on this forum love T-mobile with all our hearts!
ALSO!
T-mobile is in fact a lady, and for her to have penis envy would not only be incorect, but also strange.....
ALSO!
T-mobile is in fact a lady, and for her to have penis envy would not only be incorect, but also strange.....
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lmao... how did I know that was coming? DG, you are warped, twisted and sick... I like that in a person!
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Funny, I always thought the concept of penis envy was restricted to women. Ya know, envying men cause we have them, not between men cause one's bigger. Besides, isn't "penis envy" just an outdated term for the feminist movement or something?
I love this soap thing we've got goin! Feels like everything's back to normal.
HELL YEAH T-Mo's a woman! And she's H-O-T!!! 😈
I love this soap thing we've got goin! Feels like everything's back to normal.
HELL YEAH T-Mo's a woman! And she's H-O-T!!! 😈
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~~suddenly feels so loved, and appericated, grins, our soap though needs a catalist~~ 😎
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Well get over it, because nobody has bashed YOU yet, you sadistic, pleasure-seeking, be-happy-at-all-costs loony toon!
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~~~slides once again within the room, eyes glowing with pride at the men gathered around.~~
Now ....ya'll know just how to make a girl feel all special and warm and fuzzy don'tcha 😉
~~tosses a kiss to each one in graditude.~~
Iyvonne
Now ....ya'll know just how to make a girl feel all special and warm and fuzzy don'tcha 😉
~~tosses a kiss to each one in graditude.~~
Iyvonne
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Iyvonne said:
~~~slides once again within the room, eyes glowing with pride at the men gathered around.~~
Now ....ya'll know just how to make a girl feel all special and warm and fuzzy don'tcha 😉
~~tosses a kiss to each one in graditude.~~
Iyvonne
what the hell...? 😕
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alright, that's cool. Ya just came off like ya had some sort of grudge against GSM. Maybe I read it wrong.
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i was suggesting that if verizon worked well for him (service wise), then cdma works well where he is; and rather than risk something to stick with the same technology.
You're logic is flawed. Sprint using CDMA does not guarantee he will get service where his VZW phone did. If that were the case, why would people even bother signing up with VZW when they can go to Sprint PCS and get as good as service, a better rate plan and "cooler" phones?
I'll explain in a bit more detail why you are wrong in your logic. Carriers program their equipment with a PRL (Preferred Roaming List). The phones are also setup to attempt to hold onto the home signal till the death (i.e. A Sprint phone would hold ...
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Hi Pikasauce,
I'd hate to think you'd leave the most reliable network due to the lack of phones. Good news is there are several phones due to be released SUPER soon. Yup, yup soon!! I'd recommend sticking around a bit to see if you like the other models. They are going to be exciting!
I'd hate to think you'd leave the most reliable network due to the lack of phones. Good news is there are several phones due to be released SUPER soon. Yup, yup soon!! I'd recommend sticking around a bit to see if you like the other models. They are going to be exciting!
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What is "SUPER soon".
Can anyone get any more specific than that?
And what type of phones?
My 2-year contract expires 11/10/2004 and I become eligible for a phone upgrade (NE2) 9/10/2004. Is anything new coming out Spetember/October. I am looking at either a LG VX4500 or a Samsung SCH-A650 but am willing to wait a little while longer for something better with similar features. The features I am interested in are good reception, good audio quality, non-camera flip/clamshell phone with two dislpays (preferred, one OK), speakerphone (preferred, but OK without) and multiple vibrate and ring settings including vibrate then ring (although I will comprimise on this as well since the 4500 and 650 don't have this).
I also have a NE2 question. ...
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Can anyone get any more specific than that?
And what type of phones?
My 2-year contract expires 11/10/2004 and I become eligible for a phone upgrade (NE2) 9/10/2004. Is anything new coming out Spetember/October. I am looking at either a LG VX4500 or a Samsung SCH-A650 but am willing to wait a little while longer for something better with similar features. The features I am interested in are good reception, good audio quality, non-camera flip/clamshell phone with two dislpays (preferred, one OK), speakerphone (preferred, but OK without) and multiple vibrate and ring settings including vibrate then ring (although I will comprimise on this as well since the 4500 and 650 don't have this).
I also have a NE2 question. ...
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if you renewed your contract but kept your old phone means that you changed your price plan and not purchased a phone at a discounted price. Given that, you can redeem your ne2 up to six months* of eligibility.
*Claim based off of West area methods and procedures. Actual periods may vary depending on your location.
*Claim based off of West area methods and procedures. Actual periods may vary depending on your location.
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schnozejt said:
if you renewed your contract but kept your old phone means that you changed your price plan and not purchased a phone at a discounted price. Given that, you can redeem your ne2 up to six months* of eligibility
*Claim based off of West area methods and procedures. Actual periods may vary depending on your location.
This information is incorrect. Northeast Area Customers, South Area Customers and also West Area (last revised as of 8/4/04) states that customers can only redeem New Every Two w/in 2 months of the contract end date. ie 22 months of a 24 month agreement. I just reviewed the M&P for all areas.
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I don't mean to throw a bone to a hungry pack of wolves (a.k.a. another bit of info to fight over) but this is the information I got (copied from a message I posted at 1:41 pm August 3, 2004).
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Re: Next Gen VZW phones.
by snate Yesterday, 1:41 PM
Thanks for the info schnozejt and VZWguru,
I stopped by my local Verizon Store after lunch (Cupertino, CA, near San Jose) and asked about it. I also called Verizon just to make sure.
Both times I was told that there is no time limit on using NE2. The only limit is that I can't use it before the set date (September 10, 2004 in my case) but after that I can use it anytime and my next NE2 date will be two years from when I get my new phone.
This is good to know although I still
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Greetings all! I see the saga continues on NE2. Before I post I make sure to check all available resources so I don't cause more confusion. The time limit on NE2 is really truly 6 months. If the store, feels that some wierd and unforeseen circumstance prevented a customer from renewing they may waive the time limit. But again, that is a HUGE if. The 6months is standard operating procedure. Most Customer Service reps aren't up to date on the time limit policy because NE2 is redeemable only at the stores. If the poked around they'd see it in their info. The 2 month comment sounds more along the phoneupgrade eligibility date (which isn't the NE2 time limit). Remember NE2 and phone upgrade eligibility may not necessarily be the same date (depen...
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I don't know what area VZWguru works, but in the west area there are two expirations dates. The policy reads as follows: If ne2 was added to the line before 11/25/2002 then there is no expiration date on redeeming it, if the ne2 feature was added to a line on or after 11/25/2002 then it expires in 6 months.
I told you 6 months because I was assuming based on your post that your ne2 feature was added after 11/25/2002.
I told you 6 months because I was assuming based on your post that your ne2 feature was added after 11/25/2002.
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From my message on August 30, 2004 at 10:48 AM:
If indeed the expiration date was implemented on 11/25/2002 then I have no expiration date because I signed up on 11/10/2002 just 15 days before the expiration date was implemented.
My 2-year contract expires 11/10/2004 and I become eligible for a phone upgrade (NE2) 9/10/2004.
If indeed the expiration date was implemented on 11/25/2002 then I have no expiration date because I signed up on 11/10/2002 just 15 days before the expiration date was implemented.
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oh okay, I guess i was taking the easy route by saying it expires in 6 months. 🤣
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Hi Snate,
Since I work for VZW, I'm not able to give specific information as it is proprietary, but you should have some new handset choices by the time of your upgrade/contract date.
As for your NE2 question, it's great you brought it up. You have 6 months to redeem it. Since your NE2 and upgrade dates may differ (depending on when you signed up) I'd recommend a quick call to Customer Service to check on the dates of eligibility. Don't want you going to the store only to find out you have to wait a few weeks more to redeem your NE2.
Since I work for VZW, I'm not able to give specific information as it is proprietary, but you should have some new handset choices by the time of your upgrade/contract date.
As for your NE2 question, it's great you brought it up. You have 6 months to redeem it. Since your NE2 and upgrade dates may differ (depending on when you signed up) I'd recommend a quick call to Customer Service to check on the dates of eligibility. Don't want you going to the store only to find out you have to wait a few weeks more to redeem your NE2.
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Thanks for the info schnozejt and VZWguru,
I stopped by my local Verizon Store after lunch (Cupertino, CA, near San Jose) and asked about it. I also called Verizon just to make sure.
Both times I was told that there is no time limit on using NE2. The only limit is that I can't use it before then set date (September 10, 2004 in my case) but after that I can use it anytime and my next NE2 date will be two years from when I get my new phone.
This is good to know although I still hope to get a new phone sooner rather than later, preferably September/October.
I stopped by my local Verizon Store after lunch (Cupertino, CA, near San Jose) and asked about it. I also called Verizon just to make sure.
Both times I was told that there is no time limit on using NE2. The only limit is that I can't use it before then set date (September 10, 2004 in my case) but after that I can use it anytime and my next NE2 date will be two years from when I get my new phone.
This is good to know although I still hope to get a new phone sooner rather than later, preferably September/October.
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