come on people we are not talking about brain surgery!! that is why they have owners manuals!! 👿

I don't understand waht gin has to do with bluetooth? Verizon could unlock bluettoh and set it to work with specific folders. PIX/FLIX/MUSIC/Contacts could all be unlocked and keep the games/ringtones folder locked in the gin folders. Verizon has already done this partly with the mini/micro sd cards. They allow music/pix/flix all to be transfered through sd card, I don't understand why allowing this with bluetooth would cost them loss of revenue when they could still lock out games and ringtones?

Yeah, they allowed bluetooth file transfers of unprotected files with my new LG VX8600. works for both phone files and files on memory card....but just pics, video, and sounds....not ringtones.

cool, now is final version still going to have that or is that what you have, or a demo? Does it work with your phonebook on bluetooth handsfree systems on cars?

Yes I have the final version. Just purchased it last Friday/ Haven't tried it with my phone book or handsfree in cars. But it works very fast when transferring pics, sounds, and videos to and from the computer to your phone, or computer to your micro sd card in your phone, and vice versa.

nice, maybe they are finally starting to pull their heads out their ass on this bluetooth issue! Hopefully the 9900 will allow the same freedoms!

Yes the 9900 will.

oh yeah!!!! I can't waite for that thing, if I send one more tect on my chocolate I will have to scream!

you must be old, the younger generation doesn't use verizon.

No I am not old, but the truth is their voice coverage still has a lot of holes! doesn't work at my house and I am not in the boonies or anything, guess I am just a little to far off the highway 🤣 . If you want to make generalizations then try this one, 30% of Sprint customres are only there because they could not pass credit for Cingular or Verizon 🙄

LOL, that's funny because it's probably true.

thats funny i guess you aren't in the know, i get killer reception with my blade and fusic and can force to roam if needed anytime, but i wouldn't expect you to know that. its the best of both worlds network wise, phone selection and data and powervision we destroy verizon. plus im on the SERO program and get unlimited text for 8 bucks 😲 but you old peeps don't text at all so what do you care eh

cheers!

yes because I want to switch my phone manually over to roam every day when I get home 🙄 Your an idiot, "In the know", I know it doesn't pick up worth a crap by my house and power vision does not work in roam. I also know Sprint Quarterly numbers vs. Verizon's. Any one with an IQ of 50+ can look at those numbers and tell Sprint is doing Something wrong while Verizon is doing something right. Everyone I know carries Verizon, so to pick up a sprint phone, manually switch it to roam off Verizon( how lame, if I was going to get Sprint to use Verizon Towers 🙄 ) at my house and loose all my free in calling, plus in messaging (that i do use) You keep mentioning my generation, well I am guessing you are about 12 to come in and troll in here...
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2 references to age or generations...you've got to be probably 19 and still mooching off your parents...

Someone else hit on it before, anyone can get service at Sprint, Nextel and especially Boost (Where you at?) but you need credit to get Verizon and Cingular. Pretty smart business model for a bunch of old fogeys. Consistantly performing well in all matrices..pretty good for a bunch of old fogeys...

Also, when did you become the spokes-punk for the "younger generation"?

not2brite said:
2 references to age or generations...you've got to be probably 19 and still mooching off your parents...

Someone else hit on it before, anyone can get service at Sprint, Nextel and especially Boost (Where you at?) but you need credit to get Verizon and Cingular. Pretty smart business model for a bunch of old fogeys. Consistantly performing well in all matrices..pretty good for a bunch of old fogeys...

Also, when did you become the spokes-punk for the "younger generation"?

🤣 🤣 Did i hit a nerve actually I know it did because you are well over 40!!! funny stuff...my credit is good and I don't live at home. are you going to deny you are over 40?

who cares about age. The important thing is called maturity and it has nothing to do with age. That is a fact. And on this board maturity is rare.

It's been common knowledge that I'm over 40...

I didn't say you "live at home" did I? Review what I wrote.

No nerve hit with me, but the "I'm Jake, look at me" hour has passed.

You're the one ranting, not me.

p.s. I do know hoe to use text messaging...

Im not ranting just stating some facts 😕

Ok, then explain the FACTS then...

LL Cool Jake said:
Im not ranting just stating some facts 😕

Facts:

3Q

Net Adds
VZW 1.9M
Cing 1.4M
TMob .8M
Sprint .2M

Obviously Sprint is so much better that everyone is clamoring to get one. Maybe the majority of the population really just want to use a phone for its primary purpose....to talk. I guess Jake is too young to read because he keeps glossing over the fact that yeahright can't use a Sprint phone in his house that is NOT in a rural area.

I couldn't use my Verizon phone in my NON rural Houston home. People keep "glossing" over that.

schlittertex said:
I couldn't use my Verizon phone in my NON rural Houston home. People keep "glossing" over that.

Nah, we already heard you say it 1500 times, we're just numb to it now. WE GET IT, you don't like Verizon.

You people really don't know how to argue, I said that in reponse to someone saying that sprint didn't work in their area, and was downing it compared to Verizon almightyness, and I was responding saying that.

I just can't type or spell'

Have to throw the BS card on the credit statement. Verizon and cingular wanted no deposit with me and sprint wanted 125. I paid the 125!

We only accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express and Discover. Your BS card is not accepted.

? that is not the norm, I have had multiple Sprint customers trying to port in that had 400 deposit and say they had no deposit with sprint. I also know I had a few csutomers that had $400 deposits get sprint by paying the 125 deposit. If you have a $400 Deposit with Verizon or a $500 deposit with Cingular you usually get Sprint for $125

yeahright said:
? that is not the norm, I have had multiple Sprint customers trying to port in that had 400 deposit and say they had no deposit with sprint. I also know I had a few csutomers that had $400 deposits get sprint by paying the 125 deposit. If you have a $400 Deposit with Verizon or a $500 deposit with Cingular you usually get Sprint for $125

And with the quarter that Sprint just had I would say to expect them to loosen up their credit standards even more for 4Q. That's been their pattern in the past. They take on more risk when business is down for them. When #'s come back up they'll raise their credit standards again.

In response to what you just said, Verizon doesn't work at my house.

?ok, My phone doesn't work at my brother's house, only tmobile picks up there? So it happens, but in the grand scale of things I would bet coverage and quality would still go to Verizon.

Well my response was due to the fact that you mentioned holes in Sprints service, that is with any carrier, if you put something down, be prepared for someones rebutle.

? What the hell are you talking about? I swear you just try to start sh!t just to be annoying in here. No carrier is perfect, i will not argue that, but on a national scale Verizon is going to cover more people with their network than Sprint. The only thing I said is it doesn't work at my house, did I make a statement that said what does and does not work at yours???? NO! My post was purely pointing out why myself would never go to sprint and were my reasons not yours so back off.

No you responded to what I posted and I was not talking about sprint.

I was responding to LL Cool Jake's posts. If Verizon doesn't work at your house that sux, Does sprint work there? If it does why not go get Sprint. I was simply responding back to LL Cool Jake. I personally could care less what people have as their provider, trolls just annoy me.

Verizon doesn't work at my house either.

but its the network and they all believe it

Have you seen the new hybird phones that are cooming out next year,, whoa those are going to be hot!! cdma for voice and Nextel for PTT, gotta love that.

Low blow 🤣

I think it's "The Network", also If you ever have a problem, it becomes Verizon's problem the first time you call.

No run-arounds, no hassles. If your issue can't be resolved during the course of your first call, they will take the responsibility to get back to you with an answer.

OMG, that is why they couldn't solve my problem with my Treo, and I ended up having to pay for another phone full retail. Yeah no hassles, sure.

Since when is 23 old?

LL Cool Jake said:

nextel18 said:
The reason why more people are signing up to Verizon has to deal with their voice postpaid and that has to do with their very strong network.

yeah but that ship is only going to take them so far, verizon is DO is terrible and data is the wave of the furture. sprint network is growing everyday, and their cs it improving ,etc. what is verizon doing to change with data, nothing cuz they restrict the hell out of it, jsut like their phones. the tides will turn and verizon will be left with their johnson in their hands.

maybe when sprint gets their sh!t together I might switch but till then your argument is pathetic! "switch to Sprint becaus...
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it goes like this in the data game if you ask me

Sprint

Cingular

T-mobile

verizon is sad and dropping the ball

Jake, you come to the Verizon forum, you post under "Why more people are switching to Verizon Wireless" the virtues of Sprint.

Maybe you would enjoy the company of your compatriots in the Sprint forum.

Have a Power day!

Thanks buddy but ill post wherever i want, chill out dog this is not just for verizon fan boys camping grounds. peace out i gots ppl to see places to go.

Guys,

We all sit here and type when Sprint people come in here saying stuff negative against VZW and pro Sprint. Let them say what they want to say to vent. When it is all said and done, it comes back to a few things, not who has the best EVDO...not yet at least....not even who has the best phones....not yet at least. It comes down to this...plain and simple. Sprint's lack of success, has caused a very large amount of customers to leave them every quarter. They are doing it for a reason(s). Sprint has the highest churn in the industry, regardless of their cheaper data plans, cool phones, or EVDO success.

On the other hand, VZW has the absolute lowest churn, and the most customers coming to them. If one those 2 carriers had s...
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🤣 well said!

bkw79 said:
Guys,

We all sit here and type when Sprint people come in here saying stuff negative against VZW and pro Sprint. Let them say what they want to say to vent. When it is all said and done, it comes back to a few things, not who has the best EVDO...not yet at least....not even who has the best phones....not yet at least. It comes down to this...plain and simple. Sprint's lack of success, has caused a very large amount of customers to leave them every quarter. They are doing it for a reason(s). Sprint has the highest churn in the industry, regardless of their cheaper data plans, cool phones, or EVDO success.

On the other hand, VZW has the absolute lowest churn, and the most customers coming to them

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You also forgot that whole quad play situation with their joint venture. Obviously, it is evident that they are struggling but they are posting positives, and this will change as the months come around. This last quarter and perhaps the 1st qt of 2007 will be horrible but mid point 2007 and beyond will be great for this company especially with its products and solutions that will be coming out now and in the future.

If Sprint struggles, there would just be another takeover, so yea.

Sprint’s lack of success has to deal with this merger situation because before they were doing ok as stand-alone companies obviously there is a lot of work to be done in order to turn around this problem they are facing. With that said, however, they have the assets, products, deals and solutions to be able to become one of the best in this business and as I said before you can have the Verizon’s of the world who only cares about the postpaid voice and nothing else and you can have the Sprint’s of the world who cares about mostly prepaid and data where the money is at going forward. So who would I rather be? Easy. Sprint because their Wimax solution and joint venture will help improve churn and bring ARPU for both data and perhaps Voice up a...
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3+million gross adds 😳
I agree with Sprint doing well in the future but 3+million?

Look at these figures for the past 3 quarters.

3rd qt 06; Total retail gross additions were approximately 3.8 million.”

2nd qt 06; “Total retail gross additions were approximately 3.8 million”

1st qt 2006; “total retail gross additions were approximately 4.1 million”

do you know i tether for free? yep

Yea that is what I mentioned before. Although Verizon is a very good company when it comes to voice postpaid, they do not care about their data or prepaid where a lot of the money is at especially since this market will become saturated. I said this before that going into the future you need to have all 3 but most importantly data and prepaid working for you and I would rather have a very good data and prepaid then postpaid.

nextel18 said:
Yea that is what I mentioned before. Although Verizon is a very good company when it comes to voice postpaid, they do not care about their data or prepaid where a lot of the money is at especially since this market will become saturated. I said this before that going into the future you need to have all 3 but most importantly data and prepaid working for you and I would rather have a very good data and prepaid then postpaid.

It won't saturate for a while, there's still what?.... 50M or so Sprint customers left for Cingular and Verizon to get.

Yea but even though Sprint is having problems with its postpaid its prepaid and data are showing very nice signs so they aren’t losing subscribers if you look at it that way. Verizon and Cingular will not get 50 million of Sprint’s customers. Verizon does not have a good prepaid and data and Cingular does not have a good prepaid but soon will have a pretty good on paper HSDPA. Better watch out for T-mobile too. (I mean Verizon.)

nextel18 said:
Yea but even though Sprint is having problems with its postpaid its prepaid and data are showing very nice signs so they aren’t losing subscribers if you look at it that way. Verizon and Cingular will not get 50 million of Sprint’s customers. Verizon does not have a good prepaid and data and Cingular does not have a good prepaid but soon will have a pretty good on paper HSDPA. Better watch out for T-mobile too. (I mean Verizon.)

Ah so, prepaid is a great financial product now. I forgot its such a consistent reliable recurring bill for months. What happens when the prepaid customers are short on cash? So while they're adding subs on prepaid they're not adding reliable consistent cash flow...
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You want a mix of net additions including postpaid, prepaid and data. While this market is becoming very saturated with postpaid you want to fill those gaps with the prepaid segment and the data segment. This allows the company to obtain more revenues. The customer regardless on prepaid or postpaid can leave at any time and if the prepaid models are as such that, there is a monthly bill then all the better. In addition, if the prepaid ARPU is high enough like Boost they will also be having a consistent cash flow. Postpaid customers can also be short on cash, so that argument is flawed. Remember, the customer can leave on either platform and then the operator will lose that revenue. (Cept the ETF.)

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what are you talking about this is just a software update?

vzw-csr21 said:
what are you talking about this is just a software update?

It's something new they are trying. Until now, only the corporate stores were allowed to update the software on the phone.

It looks like it is being tried on the RAZR and the Q by two different carriers from Motorola direct. More to follow.

this is not new, it can be done on the treo 650 and 700w the update for the q enhances the look of wireless sync to make it more user friendly. stores have never been able to update pda phones this can only be done by the customer

vzw-csr21 said:
this is not new, it can be done on the treo 650 and 700w the update for the q enhances the look of wireless sync to make it more user friendly. stores have never been able to update pda phones this can only be done by the customer

How could it not be new; the Q was only released a few months ago. Maybe not new to the Treo.

Moto plans to extend the idea into the handset arena as well, according to their Tech data dept. it will begin with the high end phones.

All i am saying is that the sofware for the Q in no way is to help you customize the phone. It was designed in cooperation with vzw to make the wireless sync software easier to use.

vzw-csr21 said:
All i am saying is that the sofware for the Q in no way is to help you customize the phone. It was designed in cooperation with vzw to make the wireless sync software easier to use.

No, the program puts the phone in Suspend/diag mode and switches the phone into the "Moto USB Composite" Device, which installs Data Logging MCU Interface, Test Command Interface, Accessories Interface and Motorola Flash Interface. There you can customize the phone.

Its designed to "flash your phone at home" with updated firmware when its available so you don't have to drive into a "store".

Flashing also allows users to switch between carriers, if the same model is available on each carrier.

Ummm...Samsung did this with their PPC phones too...

They are technically unrestricted phones...

Hell, you can use the i730 for tethering without paying the extra money that you're supposed to.

Living Ghost said:
Ummm...Samsung did this with their PPC phones too...

They are technically unrestricted phones...

Hell, you can use the i730 for tethering without paying the extra money that you're supposed to.

You could always tether with any phone that supported DUN, but only at 14.4k and nobody really cared.

I don't think you could tether EvDo or 1x without a data plan these days.

Oh yes you can. Why would they bother without the tethering plan then?

I do it all the time with my ancient t720, and my brother does it through blutooth with his i730.

Living Ghost said:
Oh yes you can. Why would they bother without the tethering plan then?

I meant I don't think you could LEGALLY tether EvDo or 1x without a data plan these days.

What kind of speeds are you getting with the old T720?

Full. In fact, when the i730 had just come out, my phone was faster than it.

I think around 768kb/s, or whatever the non-evdo is. (The t720 doesn't have EVDO).

Or something...

Living Ghost said:
Full. In fact, when the i730 had just come out, my phone was faster than it.

I think around 768kb/s, or whatever the non-evdo is. (The t720 doesn't have EVDO).

Motorola is offering unbranded phones to compete with the IPhone, especially.

Touch screens, video conferencing, etc...

because after user everyother carrier I found the best service around 😁 and my customer love to get reception where ever they go and had no anger customers 😁

How much was she payed to say that lol and the oscar goes to...

Sure!! pay me! i don't mind, but nope I didn't get paid. however what I said is true (for me at least) I was a sprint customer for a Looooong time and I am much more satisfied with verizon's network "" this is a non-profit opinion announcement "" lol

she was paid with a good phone provider verizon thats the best award around 😉