when we DO take over the #1 spot (hopefully mid next year or end of this year) do you think there will be any other big mergers? I dont think cingy has anymore time or money for another merger... But I can see T-Mo stepping up and join the race..
Does anyone else think that Cingular changing their name back to ATT W is a huge mistake? A vast majority of people dont understand the concept of just changing the name vs merger.. people with currently subscribing to cingular are gonna think ATTW was horrible back in the day.. and now they are back? any opinions?
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I know people who had ATTW when it switched to Cingular. Now with the news of Cingular switching back to ATTW, everyone is confused. Don't know if its a good or bad thing. Unless they are aiming for or promising better phone service, customer service, etc., they should just stick with Cingular. Verizon just needs to roll out better phones if it wants to take the #1 spot.
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the better phones are coming.
ps Im starting to see alot of ATTW/Cing TDMA phone owners coming in to switch, Im guessing they dont want to pay that extra $5 TDMA fee or switch up to cing's awful customer service.
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oudidntkn0w said:
that extra $5 TDMA fee
i still have an old AT&T Free 2 Go TDMA prepaid phone sitting around. Is there a fee for that?
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Not on pre-paid. This is referred to post-paid customers. They get charged the $4.99 each month for holding on to their ancient TDMA phones.
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A friend still uses a Nokia 5165 post paid. He doesnt want to give up his TDMA plan because he pays $10 per month and he gets all the minutes he needs. Im trying to get him to get a Samsung SPH-A640 on Sprint w/ the $29.99 month plan.
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Why would you do that to your friend? (Sprint) 🤣
T-Mobile has a $29.99 plan too.
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He probably wants coverage 😲 😉
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I have never dropped a call on T-Mobile. Never! (I've had them for 11 months)
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if he wants coverage than he needs verizon. T-Mobile and SPRINT, throw me a freakin bone here!!! 😎
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tmobile doesnt have coverage at his house.
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vzDUBZ said:
when we DO take over the #1 spot (hopefully mid next year or end of this year)
LMFAO! it's not gonna happen! (unless you buy Alltel....)
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why do people say "we" like thier last name is verizon?
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Because "you" represent the company whether you are:
Customer
Employee
Fanboy
😎
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its figure of speech.. are u still in high school?? OH wait your a temp.. figures 😁 🙄 😉
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your a world class idiot co-signing on some company like thier success is somehow gonna enrich your life. companies count on useless zombies like you to look the other way while they are screwing you royally.
yeah I am a temp but by choice just until med school is over.
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Ofcourse it enriches me.. if vzw does good.. so do my VAR's.. also my bonuses depend on profitablity based on success of vzw products and services. You seem to know a lot about financial matters for being a nurse boy 🤣 I'm just kidding dude.. you need to relax..
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haha we dont need a merger to be #1.. cingy basically stole the spot.. kinda like by default.. by its own YOU and everyone knows that would have never happened.. and still look at before and after merger.. now the gap stands at only 3 mil customers.. compared to when the whole fiasco happened the gap was like what 6-7 million??
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I think you're wrong. The 'gap' was only 5,687,412 customers...
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Well however they got it, they got it. VZ was a merger of about 5 or 6 companies but they should catch Cingular at the end of 2008. I forsee Cingular's new policies ruffling the feathers of many users.
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Your right.. but when VZW was formed we kept the success going.. and at that time..BAM was still the leader.. we didn't steal the spotlight by merging.. only made it better.. in cingulars case.. I dont know whats worst.. poor service, bad customer service or the constant name change.. seems like whenever the company is in trouble and starts to get a bad rep.. they change the name haha.. The funny thing with any merger is that stock holders/trustees/board of chiefs want to see leadership and prolonging success along with profits.. with things I've heard and witness doesn't seem like they are too happy.. thats not a healthy merger
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Actually, Verizon stole the number one spot from AT&T Wireless in 2000.
So Cingular stealing the number one spot from Verizon with AT&T in 2004 is kind of like...karma.
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Well said RUFF. Let's teach the newbies...
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why are you so naive? VZW added 300,000 more subscribers then cingy in q2 and this is not a rare thing, Unless cingular changes this they WILL be passed it is just a matter of time. I understand that you are paid by cingular and are a huge cheerleader on the forums but why does logic escape you? if things continue as they have for the past 2 years cingular will be passed in the future.
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MidnightDT said:
...if things continue as they have for the past 2 years cingular will be passed in the future.
I completley agree. However, the guy who started this thread said by the end of this year. (That's what I was refuting)
If I could add that the reason why cingular is not adding as many customer as Vzw is because we have lots more left to do on our network (integration) and deploying HSDPA. We are losing to Vzw in those markets where Sprint and Vzw offer 3G. But this will change dramatically by year's end when we will have 3G in more than 100 marktes.
Churn is going down. Don't be naive. In just a few more quarters our churn numbers are going to be very similar...
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Anx I speculated mid next year.. which a year away.. meaning 4 quaters.. your being naive by under estimating vzw. But hey.. you choose to be ignorant.. not my problem.. but good luck for your "churn numbers" but I kinda find that hard to believe when cingy has the worst CS.. just a thought
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vzDUBZ said:
when we DO take over the #1 spot (hopefully mid next year or end of this year)
Gosh! why do you have to prove that you wrote otherwise? lol
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vzDUBZ said:
...but I kinda find that hard to believe when cingy has the worst CS.. just a thought
Actually, the worst customer service belongs to Sprxtel. Not Cingular. We are actually getting out act together. 🙄
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Anxiovert said:
We are actually getting out act together. 🙄
REALLY? not according to JDPowers.. and when exactly do you plan to get your act together by? after the name change? Can't say much about "getting our act together" about a company that can't get there act together on a company name.. talk about flip-flopping.
🙄 🤣
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JD Powers ranks T-Mobile #1 and Cingular close to last, yet the sales numbers and churn figures say otherwise.
Let's put the whole JD Powers thing to rest for a bit hmm?
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Cingular Inches Closer to 60M Subs
By Susan Rush
July 20, 2006
NEWS@2 DIRECT
Cingular Wireless ended the second quarter with 57.3 million customers, after attracting 1.5 million net subscribers and posting a 7-percent increase in sales. Profits tripled during the quarter.
The No. 1 U.S. wireless carrier reported second-quarter revenue of $9.22 billion. In the year-ago period, Cingular recorded revenue of $8.61 billion. The carrier posted net income of $540 million, up from $147 million in the same period a year ago.
Average revenue per user (ARPU) dipped 3.3 percent to $48.44 when compared to a year ago, but average monthly churn fell to a record low for the carrier, coming in at 1.7 percent. In the data category, Cin...
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getting your act together....blah blah.... when we roll this out... blah blah... why do you cingular people think that you are the only ones doing things to improve your voice and data networks??? What ever improvements you make, Verizon will be right there step for step.
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liquifiedgr00ve said:
getting your act together....blah blah.... when we roll this out... blah blah... why do you cingular people think that you are the only ones doing things to improve your voice and data networks??? What ever improvements you make, Verizon will be right there step for step.
Gladly! 😁
Cingular has made more improvements than any other wireless carrier. Here:
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
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thats because they needed to. Not much modification needed when you already have the best voice network! And as far as all the statistics you've quoted, sure they may show improvement. But when you rank dead last among wireless carriers in customer satisfaction, the only way to go is up!!
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wait a sec, you are predicting that t-mobile will be #3?
and VZW was supposed to be #1 by now according to VZW fanboys.....
hasn't happened
stop talking about the future like it's a certainty
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sangyup81 said:
wait a sec, you are predicting that t-mobile will be #3?
and VZW was supposed to be #1 by now according to VZW fanboys.....
hasn't happened
stop talking about the future like it's a certainty
Actually VZW is #1 in retail customers now. Zing! on Cingular. Or AT&T, or whatev they're callin' themselves this week...
Yea, yeah, yeah, we know, in OVERALL customers, Cing is still ahead. But man, has dat margin narrowed. I hear they were up like 6 mil customers after that merger, now its like 2.5 mil. And they're behind in retail customers now.
Wha happened to Cing/ATT/whatever? Thought they was supposed to have it in the bag, especially with those (bogus) 'fewest dropped call' commeri...
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Hey! You copied my name! 👿
No more big mergers for a while I would say.
And I think changing the name back to ATT is a little silly and agree with you, or myself, I'm so confused.
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I think you guys miss the point. Changing the name to AT&T isn't being done to repair Cingular image issues.
By becoming AT&T, the company can expand the business in the future. Perhaps they will become like Vodafone or Deutch Telecom and invest in other countries for wireless. Don't be surprised if the new AT&T buys out Rogers in Canada within the span of 2 years.
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I understand why they are doing it. I just think short term it will cause confusion and creat more churn.
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perhaps the confusion will lead to churn if their questions are not answered in a good manner
perhaps the new name will excite people who are with other carries to join the at&t bandwagon
A lot depends on the way Cingular carries out this change. The ball is in their hands. It's not guaranteed that VZW will gain from this.
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