Any current phones better than a Star tac?
I have been a loyal Verizon wireless customer since 1995 (ameritech back then. I have had Nextel, cingular, and sprint thru work. I feel Verizon has the best signal and customer service. However, I have tried many new phones, none of which can remotely get as good of a signal as the Motorola Star Tac I still use. My e815 can have no bars, while my star tac has 3. my e815 will not connect a call while the ST does all day long. I use over 4500 min a month for biz, I do not care about ringtones, cameras, or any other crap besides making and receiving calls. So here is my BIG question----
With all the technology today, why the hell does my 6-7 year old phone work (star tac) have better call quality and signal strenght than any other phone ...
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With all the technology today, why the hell does my 6-7 year old phone work (star tac) have better call quality and signal strenght than any other phone ...
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You won't find one that has as good of reception as the ST because it pulls the signal differently. However...8 months or so ago, I upgraded a woman from the StarTac/SingleRate plan to the current America's Choice plan with an LG VX5200 and she came in maybe a week later (for accessories) and said she was getting better coverage after the upgrade. I would imagine the reason that your E815 isn't pulling the signal is that the available signal is probably analog. The E815 is not an analog capable phone. Try the Motorola V325, LG VX3300, or LG VX5200.
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spum--If the ST pulls the signal differently (obviously better) why the does someone (motorola) not make "clone" of the ST? If the signal strenght is better with the way the ST or V60 works why would they not use it? I ask cause it sounds like you are in the business.
If it is true I will not find a phone with as good reception, looks like I better start buying up every ST part I can find on Ebay.
If it is true I will not find a phone with as good reception, looks like I better start buying up every ST part I can find on Ebay.
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the star-tac is analog. that technology is stonger because it uses a WAAAYYYY higher wattage. resulting in mad radiation to your brain when you talk. i bet you also notice you battery life on that 3 watter is poor.
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Actually it is a dual band Digital and analog, very rarely does it ever go into analog. Verizon has a good digital signal where I live. But even when the ST is in digital I can have 3-4 bars and the E815 will not make the call. FYI I have gotten 2 new E815's had the phone inspected and the reception problem is not in the phone.
My battery perfomance is down a little because the battery is 3 years old, but not too bad. Remember it is not running EV, cameras or music, or color screen, that stuff uses a hell of a lot of battery too.
The entire point of my post is how can "new" and "better" technology not work remotely as well as technology from 6 years ago. Come on Motorola, nokia, and anyone else, forget the music and cameras, just bu...
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My battery perfomance is down a little because the battery is 3 years old, but not too bad. Remember it is not running EV, cameras or music, or color screen, that stuff uses a hell of a lot of battery too.
The entire point of my post is how can "new" and "better" technology not work remotely as well as technology from 6 years ago. Come on Motorola, nokia, and anyone else, forget the music and cameras, just bu...
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Like somebody said a second ago, the reason the ST works better is because it uses 3 watts instead of...I think 0.5 watts in the new ones (don't quote me on that). The FCC doesn't allow 3 watt phones anymore. Don't blame the manufacturer or the carrier, blame the government. You can, however, get a 3 watt booster that can attach to the phone which would make it get the same reception as your ST. Not all phones are compatible with the 3 watt boosters though. I'm not sure which ones are off the top of my head, but I do know that the 5200, 3300, and V325 all have jacks for them.
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spum said:
Like somebody said a second ago, the reason the ST works better is because it uses 3 watts instead of...I think 0.5 watts in the new ones (don't quote me on that). The FCC doesn't allow 3 watt phones anymore. Don't blame the manufacturer or the carrier, blame the government. You can, however, get a 3 watt booster that can attach to the phone which would make it get the same reception as your ST. Not all phones are compatible with the 3 watt boosters though. I'm not sure which ones are off the top of my head, but I do know that the 5200, 3300, and V325 all have jacks for them.
ha ha i quoted you. you are correct however 😎
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I was not aware that the startac transmitted 3 watts of power, I think that is wrong, but, if it is correct, you do not want 3 watts of power next to your head, the only phones I knew of being 3 watts were the bag phones, but either way, you would not want 3 watts right next to your head.
2nd thing I wanted to point out is the 3 watt boosters. You can buy them and use them, and they work, but do not call up and mention to verizon that you are using one and you still do not get reception, as if you read your contract, it states in there that you agree not to use repeaters, boosters on your phone, so, by using them, you are violating your contract with verizon.
2nd thing I wanted to point out is the 3 watt boosters. You can buy them and use them, and they work, but do not call up and mention to verizon that you are using one and you still do not get reception, as if you read your contract, it states in there that you agree not to use repeaters, boosters on your phone, so, by using them, you are violating your contract with verizon.
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exact words on my contract...
you agree that you won't install, deploy, or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate a transmitted RF signal.
Call and ask them if you doubt it is in our contracts. In my contract it is in the section Our rights to limit or end service or this agreement..
the amplifier does everything listed above that we agree not to do. There is another section in the contract that states that they can end your service if you interfere with the network, which is the main reason they do not want you using repeaters, and amplifiers.
you agree that you won't install, deploy, or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate a transmitted RF signal.
Call and ask them if you doubt it is in our contracts. In my contract it is in the section Our rights to limit or end service or this agreement..
the amplifier does everything listed above that we agree not to do. There is another section in the contract that states that they can end your service if you interfere with the network, which is the main reason they do not want you using repeaters, and amplifiers.
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Actually... Handhelds use .6 watts.. Even the StarTac, even analog phones.. 3 watt phones are specific to bag phones and installs.
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.6 in analog, isn't it even less in digital, like .4 or something like that.
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1.6 is the highest the fcc will let them go but average is .3 through .4 you are correct.
the pda's normally get to that .6 + range
the pda's normally get to that .6 + range
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have you tried the nokia 6256i for vzw its great. the signal picks up better than most othe phones i've experienced with vzw. i own alot btw.
also if you can find a samsung a650 great phone for its uses. ugly but gets the job done.
also if you can find a samsung a650 great phone for its uses. ugly but gets the job done.
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spum said:
You won't find one that has as good of reception as the ST because it pulls the signal differently. However...8 months or so ago, I upgraded a woman from the StarTac/SingleRate plan to the current America's Choice plan with an LG VX5200 and she came in maybe a week later (for accessories) and said she was getting better coverage after the upgrade. I would imagine the reason that your E815 isn't pulling the signal is that the available signal is probably analog. The E815 is not an analog capable phone. Try the Motorola V325, LG VX3300, or LG VX5200.
This is very true, I had customers in the same situation and I put them both on the VX5200 (Tri-Mode) and they said since they get better servi...
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try the Moto V325 its tri-mode (e815 isnt) meaning you can get analog and digital signals. also it has very strong RF reception. see if that doesnt solve your issue.
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Things have changed. Don't blame your provider or even your phone manufacturer. Blame the Federal Communications Commission! Your local E911 sevices may not have the technology, but again the FCC says that they must install it soon. They will not allow a phone with enough watts to be made. At some point you will not be able to continue to use your Startac. If at any time you remove your current Startac ESN from your MTN you will not be able to reactivate it on the VZW network. And there is no supervisor that can reactive it, unless your are a government accoutn. You really can't compare a Startac to any current phone that VZW has. And I tell customers that when they ask. Its comparing apples to oranges. So just keep buying batteries o...
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I did not know that, thanks for the info. I did know it can no longer be reactivated. It is just a shame that even though it is apples and oranges, that the quality of a 2006 phone is nothing compared to a late 90's phone.
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A StarTac? God bless you, best phone series Moto ever made. It transcended technology platforms (GSM/TDMA/CDMA) as far as quality goes both w/ service, design, and manufacturing...
I'd probably migrate over to the e815. At least it's supported by VZW, Moto, e911, and all that other crap...
I'd probably migrate over to the e815. At least it's supported by VZW, Moto, e911, and all that other crap...
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maybe i just had a few bad ones, but back in the day my startac was junk, so was the two i replaced it with? then the timeport wasn't much better. This was the tdma version so that might have something to do with it, i was told when i had mine the version before it was better, possibly analog only? not sure been years, but mine certainly sucked. If you need analog i would suggest the 325. As far as reception goes the 815 is great unless you are in analog, but the 325 and the v60 both offer ananlog back up so that would be my suggestion.
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I did not think the V 60 was available any longer? My wife has one of those, she won't get rid of it, it is also NOT e911 capable and we both get nasty letters from vzn every other month that we need to upgrade. I finally had to complain to vzn to quit calling me about it.
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actually neither, I was not saying get a v60, i was suggesting coverage should be similar between that and the 325, so if her tri mode v60 picks up well where you are at the 325 should get similar service having analog and being the same brand.
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the v65p, would probably be your best bet if you could find one on ebay since she loves her v60. and if you were to upgrade to a new tri-mode, i wouldnt suggest the v325 for me it didnt really have that great of RF, cause with my old t720, in my house, i live next to a tower, i would get 5 (aka full) and with the 325 i would have 3 out of 4. so thats why i wouldnt reccomend it, i also wouldnt reccomend any samsungs! they are crap!
i would go with the v276 and i completely agree with you hat phones are meant to make calls! i love ev-do but i would rather have a better signal with 1x than a lower signal with ev. if that makes ny sense at all Eh?
i would go with the v276 and i completely agree with you hat phones are meant to make calls! i love ev-do but i would rather have a better signal with 1x than a lower signal with ev. if that makes ny sense at all Eh?
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😲 oh my stay awaY FROOM THE 265 OR 276 BOTH TOTAL POS. I have a box full of broken ones laying in my store 🤣 Everyone I sold went back to service or had to be fru'd at leaste once.....sorry didn't mean to cap, hit button on accident
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You can erase ya know? And you are completely right. They are very poorly made phones. Horrible charging port issues and with the way the top part of the phone was designed They get all kinds of crap behind the lens on the display. Rob are you serious? you would recommend one of these POS 's over the 325??? I know its no cadillac, but come on don't suggest a pinto!
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I know i can erase, but i was on my laptop laying down and seemed like to much effort at the time, sometimes i am just that lazy 😛
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Oh my. You just recommended the 276 over the 325. There's something wrong with you.
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not really, when i had the 325 late april early may, it was a complete pos, it didnt have a strong signal adn it would bounce from 4 to none INSODE THE VERIZON STORE, and i had two of them, and tehy BOTH did it so it wasnt just the phone, like everyone in ym family has the
276, and havent had any problems at all so i dont know whats so wrong with them to say somethings wrong with me 🤨
276, and havent had any problems at all so i dont know whats so wrong with them to say somethings wrong with me 🤨
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They must have got the random few that worked. I am not exaggerating by saying between the 265 and the 276 that I had 100% of the them come back with problems. Glad you got some working ones.
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As much as I loved my ST there is no way I could just sit there and watch the cellular technology train pass me by. 😲 Good luck
Keep us posted!!!.. maybe if you piece it together long enough we can petition you to the guinness book of world records 😉
Keep us posted!!!.. maybe if you piece it together long enough we can petition you to the guinness book of world records 😉
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Saw an account today, same esn on accountt since 7/1992. Talk about the train passing you by.
Old $9.95 calling plan, billed 38 cents per minute of calling.
Old $9.95 calling plan, billed 38 cents per minute of calling.
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"As much as I loved my ST there is no way I could just sit there and watch the cellular technology train pass me by. Good luck
Keep us posted!!!.. maybe if you piece it together long enough we can petition you to the guinness book of world records"
I have a company supplied phone so I have all the bells and whistles. As far as technology passing me by, I think they left the technology back in 1998! When you depend on your phone for you livelyhood (outside sales) all you care about tech wise is the damn phone makes and recieves calls consistently. I use the E815 cause it is free, but evertime it will not make a call do to NO SIGNAL, I pick up the ole ST and the call always goes through. I am not talking about analog calls either, the ...
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Keep us posted!!!.. maybe if you piece it together long enough we can petition you to the guinness book of world records"
I have a company supplied phone so I have all the bells and whistles. As far as technology passing me by, I think they left the technology back in 1998! When you depend on your phone for you livelyhood (outside sales) all you care about tech wise is the damn phone makes and recieves calls consistently. I use the E815 cause it is free, but evertime it will not make a call do to NO SIGNAL, I pick up the ole ST and the call always goes through. I am not talking about analog calls either, the ...
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See what others said about the wattage. That being said, I've had folks in our national repair group tell me that the Motorola e815 is exceptional at picking up signal in low-RF areas. If you're in or near a big city, you can probably get away with anything we carry.
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