multiple numbers on one phone
My son is going off to school. I wanted to get him a number that would be local for the town he'll be livingin, and he wants to keep his current number. I thought most cell phones could have two numbers, but a verizon rep told me that wasn't possible. Is it possible withany of the phones?
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brocharlieb,
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No verizon can't hold 2 lines, though Nextel can.
JLeo720's heart was in the right place but he was typing too fast... he meant...
No verizon can't hold 2 lines, though Nextel can.
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the network.
and nextel last time i checked couldnt do it either.
the 2nd number is for data lines.
i.e.:
a pda with a data number
or nextel i710 with a data number for push to talk.
no phone i believe can house 2 voice numbers at once.
and nextel last time i checked couldnt do it either.
the 2nd number is for data lines.
i.e.:
a pda with a data number
or nextel i710 with a data number for push to talk.
no phone i believe can house 2 voice numbers at once.
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incorrect. A Nextel phone already has a walkie talking number and a cell phone number on line one. They can sign up for an alternate line service. They would then have two plans on one phone. The alternate line service uses the primary line's voicemail. If you want to call out on the different number you would have to switch between line one and line two. However, if someone calls the alternate number and you are on line one it will still ring the phone.
Hope that helps.
As far as call forwarding. Yes it will use airtime to call forward...however if you are forwarding from a verizon cell to a vzw cell...wouldn't that be IN network calling?
Hope that helps.
As far as call forwarding. Yes it will use airtime to call forward...however if you are forwarding from a verizon cell to a vzw cell...wouldn't that be IN network calling?
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Really? I did this on my phone and it worked. I tested it out and call forwarded my phone to my wife's phone. All the calls made were charged the correct amount of minutes and I wasn't charged double. It showed as Mobile to mobile on my wife's phone...
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Cool if that is true. I was always trained differently. Maybe I'll have to test it myself. I was told it falls along the same lines as why you can not call yourself from your phone to access voicemail and get it as IN calling.
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Ermm, hate to butt in here but I've seen a phone be assigned 2 numbers, and both ring into it. The 3 time sI've seen it were computer glitches. Bu tthe capability is there. Tell them to call the data tech support people, they know how to do it.
You *DO* need to have 2 plans on the phone, and I don't think one can be a shared plan. I'm also not sure if you can have 2 different "home areas" on it either. :-/ But 2 MTNs on one ESN *IS* possible.
You *DO* need to have 2 plans on the phone, and I don't think one can be a shared plan. I'm also not sure if you can have 2 different "home areas" on it either. :-/ But 2 MTNs on one ESN *IS* possible.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your starting statement (especially as I am a coordinator and do tech and data support). You must choose the NAM you are making and receiving calls from. With this in mind, calls to NAM 2 while in NAM 1 will go to voice mail. The only work around "may" (I say may because I have not tested it) be to forward calls from the NAM2 # to the NAM1 # (as others I beleive have posted) because forwarding trumps voicemail. And you are correct that it requires 2 price plans in 2 separate markets.
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It's called a dual nam setting, (having 2 numbers programmed into one phone.) Catch is, one number must be on a Local Digital Choice plan, while the other number would have to be on a America's Choice plan. The catch past is not all markets have local plans, so some areas it can not be done.
Or , you could just activate the second number, and use call forwarding to the first number.
Or , you could just activate the second number, and use call forwarding to the first number.
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If the first idea can't be done [due to the area not having a local plan] your advice to activate the second number, and use call forwarding to the first number is such a easy [and do-able] alternative.
Great post... Thanks for that useful Info
(startin' to sound like The Rever a bit)
Thx again!
Great post... Thanks for that useful Info
(startin' to sound like The Rever a bit)
Thx again!
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call forwarding can be expensive it will use minutes on both phones be careful.
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if forwarding from a vzw phone to another vzw phone it will use the m2m mins for the end forwarding the call. for the rec end it will depend on the orignal party if they are vzw or not. Dont forget forwarding is also nice since all calls to one number and voice mails to one number. where as using the dual nam to check the vm for each phone u have to change what nam you are on unless u dial the 10 digit number for the other line. also cant rec calls for the number that is not currently active unless there is a call forwarding which is a much better option.
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I'm sorry, but I am here to tell you it can not "normally" be done. Yes, all phones are dual nam capable HOWEVER, it has nothing to do with the type of plan, it has to do with the market. If 2 numbers in the same market are programmed to the same ESN, because of the way the system authenticates equipment to prevent cloning, it will catch this knock the phone off the network (it won't authenticate and therefore can not complete a call) The only way to avoid this difficulty is to have the phone in 2 completely separate area (ie NY and California) and even this is frowned upon because you can not OTA Nam 2 and causes a lot of issue with programming internally in the phones and in the switch. Unless it is an extremely extenuating and escalated s...
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I'm sorry, but I am here to tell you it can not "normally" be done. Yes, all phones are dual nam capable HOWEVER, it has nothing to do with the type of plan, it has to do with the market. If 2 numbers in the same market are programmed to the same ESN, because of the way the system authenticates equipment to prevent cloning, it will catch this knock the phone off the network (it won't authenticate and therefore can not complete a call) The only way to avoid this difficulty is to have the phone in 2 completely separate area (ie NY and California) and even this is frowned upon because you can not OTA Nam 2 and causes a lot of issue with programming internally in the phones and in the switch. Unless it is an ext
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Right and wrong. Dual nam is correct but you dont need to have totally different price plans to have dual nam set up. They can both be on the America's Choice plan or a local Digital Choice plan. There are no such restriction as to what plan an mdn can have (other than migrating to a grandfatherd plan). I have set customers up this way and done the testing with #tec. it works fine and the call forwarding does work. I havent checked up w/ any account to see if there is any double billing but i would assume there would be because it bills both the phn no. that is forwarding the call and the recieving phn no. is billed as well, i dont see any reason it would differ in this situation.
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That is not true either. I have many times activated customers dual NAMS both on America's Choice Plans, I have even done both lines on the same family plan.
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Read the offical policy /M&P folks. It clearly states one # must be on local plan, the other on an America's Ch plan.
Let me also clarify, I am in the West Area.
Let me also clarify, I am in the West Area.
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This thread has had some very informative technical comments. However, I wouldn't worry about getting your son a second number. Every college campus today has kids using multiple area codes from all over the country. It's just the way it is today.
You may as well just keep your son on your family plan and let him keep his current number. The majority of kids on college campuses keep a number with their home area code.
You may as well just keep your son on your family plan and let him keep his current number. The majority of kids on college campuses keep a number with their home area code.
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I agree about the informative technical comments. Unfortunately, most of it was so technical I couldn't figure out what they were talking about.
Since my son isn't going to have a land line at school, I wanted him to also have a local number to that area so that his employer and others could call him without a problem. It sounds like what I'm hearing is that I could add a line with a number for that area and then he could just forward the calls from that number to his present number. If I undersand what I'm hearing, since it would be IN calling, it wouldn't cost me any more.
I knew some phones used to have a NAM 1 and NAM 2, and I thought that meant they could have two numbers.
Since my son isn't going to have a land line at school, I wanted him to also have a local number to that area so that his employer and others could call him without a problem. It sounds like what I'm hearing is that I could add a line with a number for that area and then he could just forward the calls from that number to his present number. If I undersand what I'm hearing, since it would be IN calling, it wouldn't cost me any more.
I knew some phones used to have a NAM 1 and NAM 2, and I thought that meant they could have two numbers.
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brocharlieb said:
...Since my son isn't going to have a land line at school, I wanted him to also have a local number to that area so that his employer and others could call him without a problem. It sounds like what I'm hearing is that I could add a line with a number for that area and then he could just forward the calls from that number to his present number. If I understand what I'm hearing, since it would be IN calling, it wouldn't cost me any more.
Good stuff you guys [and we all learned a lot from the awesome technical stuff that primarily went right over brocharlieb's head] but I'm beginning to feel a bit of gas, acid reflux & indigestion at this point. WantNewPhone put it so very well... TO REQ...
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After all of this is said and done, the technical trouble you may encounter might make it prohibitive. I am certain that someone will read this post and disagree and might even reference some technical aspect.
However, in order for your son to maintain the two numbers on one phone, you would have to accept that it might come with some technical glitches. I could give you a whole lotta info about authentication, phone switch registration, VLR and a bunch of technical hooey but what is likely to happen is that his main number on the phone (NAM 1) and most likely the one assigned to your area code (not the one at school) will experience issues wit the above mentioned VLR. When the phone is away from its home area, it is roaming. Not in terms...
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However, in order for your son to maintain the two numbers on one phone, you would have to accept that it might come with some technical glitches. I could give you a whole lotta info about authentication, phone switch registration, VLR and a bunch of technical hooey but what is likely to happen is that his main number on the phone (NAM 1) and most likely the one assigned to your area code (not the one at school) will experience issues wit the above mentioned VLR. When the phone is away from its home area, it is roaming. Not in terms...
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Thanks Green Jeep... You are one Technical Dude [or dudette for all we know... as Green Jeep isn't exactaly a gender based name you chose... like relayman is for example]
In any case, you and theatermax are one technical duo and thanks for all the GOOD STUFF that so many of us are soaking in slowly but surely.
One Q, [excuse the ignorance], but:
"What is VLR" ?
Have a great Sunday & an awesome week Jeep {& t-MAD-max-theater-dude-CRaig-tech-guy-Man aka: theatermax) !
In closing "Green", don't you sorta think the son should stick with the home # so the folk(s) can call the son easily and the other college kids [the sons friends] will all have their various home based [cell] area codes from around the country and will predominantl...
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In any case, you and theatermax are one technical duo and thanks for all the GOOD STUFF that so many of us are soaking in slowly but surely.
One Q, [excuse the ignorance], but:
"What is VLR" ?
Have a great Sunday & an awesome week Jeep {& t-MAD-max-theater-dude-CRaig-tech-guy-Man aka: theatermax) !
In closing "Green", don't you sorta think the son should stick with the home # so the folk(s) can call the son easily and the other college kids [the sons friends] will all have their various home based [cell] area codes from around the country and will predominantl...
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