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Bored of Verizon.. which carrier to switch to?

tasslehawf

Jul 22, 2004, 7:55 PM
Sure verizon is reliable but they have the most boring phones. Which GSM carrier is next best to verizon?
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muchdrama

Jul 22, 2004, 8:13 PM
tasslehawf said:
Sure verizon is reliable but they have the most boring phones. Which GSM carrier is next best to verizon?
Cingular, my man.
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badsky2k

Jul 23, 2004, 8:44 AM
Don't do it Ethel! There ain't no such animal. Cingular = to VZW??? Not a chance. Wait out just a little more time and VZW will have phones to blow you away. With Cingular & ATTWS merging, I can guarantee that it will be a nightmare. Cingular has not even rolled out their first level upgrade to the system (EDGE) and that is why they are buying ATTWS! Now I am not pushing ATTWS either cuz their CS leaves a lot to be desired... A LOT! VZW has been rated #1 in customer service & quality & network coverage. Bored? Well if you like calling CS to complain and not get anything done or resolved, then go to another carrier. At least you will not be bored. VZW also tests their handsets BEFORE offering them to the public. I know that ATTWS does not eve...
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schnozejt

Jul 23, 2004, 9:41 AM
I'm still waiting for a phone that also does my laundry.

Just a little side note; VZW was rated #2 in customer service recently.

I don't think it would be a nightmare for tasselhawf, it's all dependant on where you live. Yes, it's true VZW has a lot more cell cites and each cite can handle more calls, but it sometimes doesn't work.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 23, 2004, 11:44 AM
VZW does not dominate Cingular in POPs either. The two companies share about a 2% difference in coverage area. After the ATTWS buyout is completed, Cingular will have the largest wireless network in America.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 11:52 AM
For a short period of time...you will also have the largest customer base...but also not for very long
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phonepimp3376

Jul 23, 2004, 11:54 AM
We didn't take on this deal for customer base, but its a nice perk. What we will be able to do postdeal is what you should be worried about.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 11:57 AM
I welcome the challenge...finally!!!
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RoamDog

Jul 23, 2004, 12:05 PM
oh come on guys, stop sticking buy your companies like they're your best friend.
do keep in mind every single one of them only care about taking money from your pocket and putting it into theirs.

and thats just the bottom line fact.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 12:06 PM
As long as I keep getting a paycheck twice a month VZW is my bestest friend the whole wide world, if ya know what I mean
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badsky2k

Jul 23, 2004, 12:26 PM
Maybe not. At the rate that Cingular/ATTWS is loosing customers vs. the rate that VZW is gaining customers, even Wall Street has doubts about who will really still be the largest carrier at the end of this year. VZW could still be #1.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 12:28 PM
actually neither at&t or Cingular LOST customers, they are just gaining customer at a much slower rate than VZW
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phonepimp3376

Jul 23, 2004, 11:42 AM
Uh, excuse me, moron? Cingular was the FIRST carrier to deploy EDGE. We have a much LARGER EDGE coverage than ATTWS. Cingular tests their handets before release as stringently as VZW. You don't see people posting they've had 8 phones in two years on Cingular's forum, do you? Didn't think so. Blow us away? Christ, over 40,000 people bought into a 710 moto before you could get it out! Hope it flies, or that's a lot of pissed off people.
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:13 PM
well....hmm....let's start off by making sure you know that Verizon is a CDMA carrier, not GSM. Now that that's out there (sorry if you already knew, just coverin bases) you have choices. The one you choose SHOULD be based on what's best in your area, not neccessarily who has the coolest phones.

If you're dead set on GSM then Cingular has both the largest network and the largest selection of handsets. Their plans are competitively priced and they generally have very good customer service. AT&T now has a GSM network in place as well...but they will soon merge with Cingular creating one big entity, so you'll have Cingular eventually either way. T-Mobile is steadily gaining a foothold in the U.S., but if you're in a rural area you may g...
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85percent

Jul 22, 2004, 8:20 PM
disturbed1 said:

If you're dead set on GSM then Cingular has both the largest network


😕

Their plans are competitively priced and they generally have very good customer service.


😕

AT&T now has a GSM network in place as well...but they will soon merge with Cingular creating one big entity, so you'll have Cingular eventually either way.


what a scary thought 😲
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:23 PM
notice the "if you're dead set on GSM" part

Sounds like this guy just wants bells and whistles, not a phone. 😡
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tasslehawf

Jul 22, 2004, 8:23 PM
Yeah. I'm aware that verizon is CDMA and Cingular/ATT/T-Mobile/Rest of the World is GSM. I really want a Sony Ericsson phone. And since Sprint quickly dropped the only S/E phone that ever supported CDMA, there isn't a choice to but to try GSM. I know CDMA is way better than GSM, but I'm a gadget freak. I guess I'll just have to trial Cingular / S/E and see how it is.
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:25 PM
not gonna get into the CDMA v GSM debate, it's not worth it. But it sounds like you want more bells and whistles than a phone that works. I'll be the first to not take sides as I don't work for anyone (yet?) but I'll warn ya, if you go for the features first and the phone second you'll almost certainly be doin exactly what 85 and drama said.

Standin out in a crowd, and usin your phone for a paperweight.
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 12:55 PM
Not true! Although as much as you wish it so.

You can have it all. Its not as simple as great coverage equals no features as you would like to believe. You can have both.

Maybe not in the deep woods of Minnesota or on uncle Alberts farm.....though!
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 12:47 PM
If you choose Cingular, You will love thatSE T637 phone. BTW I have had one dropped call with Cingular so far..I don't know if it was me or the Sprint phone I was connected to. Iat will soon driving from LAS Vegas to St Louis. That will be telling, but according to the map I40 is covered all the way and all extended services available as well.

But I will say 2 out of 10 dropped calls is well worth the price and features of Cingular and GSM in general. Not to mention no roaming as well as M2M everywhere on the network, not just small patched here and there, oh but for $70 a month more I suppose I could get that with Verizon when EVDO comes around.
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85percent

Jul 22, 2004, 8:17 PM
tasslehawf said:
Sure verizon is reliable but they have the most boring phones. Which GSM carrier is next best to verizon?


Do you ride the short bus to school?

Great question to ask in this forum. 🙄

I wish you the best in finding the most bling-blingy phone. Just think, soon you'll be able to stand out in crowds! 😕


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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muchdrama

Jul 22, 2004, 8:20 PM
85percent said:
tasslehawf said:
Sure verizon is reliable but they have the most boring phones. Which GSM carrier is next best to verizon?


Do you ride the short bus to school?

Great question to ask in this forum. 🙄

I wish you the best in finding the most bling-blingy phone. Just think, soon you'll be able to stand out in crowds! 😕


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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AND use your phone as a paper weight.
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VZW_MAN

Jul 22, 2004, 8:24 PM
tasslehawf said:
Sure verizon is reliable but they have the most boring phones. Which GSM carrier is next best to verizon?


How are phones boring? You use them to make calls! I don't know about you but reliability is the most important factor in my cell phone- not what color it is or whatever gadget it has on it. Maybe you should try getting a girlfriend or something? 🙄
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:27 PM
AMEN TO THAT!!!! 😁 I don't know about you guys, but my girlfriend is MUCH more fun than my phone. I dont' care if it DOES vibrate 🤣
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VZWCustServ

Jul 22, 2004, 9:32 PM
disturbed1 said:
AMEN TO THAT!!!! 😁 I don't know about you guys, but my girlfriend is MUCH more fun than my phone. I dont' care if it DOES vibrate 🤣


Your girlfriend vibrates?!?!?!?!

😲
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 9:51 PM
😉 depends on what I do. 🤣 I was talkin about the phone though....although that might have given me an idea about what to do with that old Nokia I've got layin around
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phonepimp3376

Jul 23, 2004, 7:12 AM
I simply MUST interject here to make a few salient points.

1. Coverage is geographic, therefore one cannot make a general statement such as "and use your phone for a paperweight". The reliability of a carrier's signal is geographic as well. For example, in western Massachusetts, he could use his Verizon phone "as a paperweight" compared to Cingular's reliability.

2. What is wrong with a customer wanting reliable service AND a great phone? And why must a person who wants that be attacked with the reliability lines? If a company wasn't able to perform to the satisfaction of the majority of their customers, they would quickly cease to be.
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 12:52 PM
I keep telling them there will be more and more sentiment like this. "Boring phones"

All they can say is it's a phone. all the other stuff does not matter. Well the alarm will be ringing loudly in Verizon's ears waking them up to their customer's chant:

"CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? Verizon?" We want more then a boring phone.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 1:09 PM
Wow that was a very informative posts...back up with published facts...wrong
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 1:19 PM
When those facts are published, it will be too late, friend.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 1:23 PM
well if they aren't facts then why are you talking about them...you should know you gotta back your stuff up in here buddy
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 1:36 PM
Sometimes vision is more important than facts.Bill Gates did not have facts that 50% of all people would want to own a PC. He claimed it though. He had vision. My vision is Verizon had better start pay attention to the few termites in the wood that supports their lofty ambitions.

As well I have seen a few posts from LT Verizon users here and a ton over at HF that indicate a tiny crack in the dam. They may be only ones posting, but Im sure they represent a sampling many users today and many more tomorrow.

Even JD Powers did not survey 45 million users to come up with their "facts" you guys spew about when selling Verizon
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 1:50 PM
okay then Nostradamus, keep going with your visions and you'll end up in a luny bin...hehehe...believe me VZW is not blind as to what is going on in the world around them and you would be quite stupid to think that...we didn't just become #1 out of luck...we know what we're doing don't worry about that...as for a few complainers...what company doesn't have people that complain...
#1 that is from there only personal experience it isn't a nation wide thing
#2 I forgot #2 but it was going to be good...trust me
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 2:09 PM
I know they are trying! They now have M2M albeit on a small network, There is talk of three year contracts. (mostly to try to buy time to stem off the tide) even they see may be coming while they come up to speed on the "bling bling" future customers and increasingly more current customer's are pleading for.

No they are not blind. But seemingly many VZ Sales reps are indeed blind and without the 'corporate vision." At least they act that way and speak as if Verizon is invincible.

And that's exactly what Cingular wants them to believe. Those little orange footsteps are getting closer. If they were not Verizon would not have to do anything and still gain and keep all their customers, which many here seem to think is gospel.

Verizon...
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 2:12 PM
King, you are wearing the sh*t out of that orange footstep crap...come up with something new...pleeeeeease!!!!!
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kingfrog77

Jul 23, 2004, 2:18 PM
HEy you just may see that in their next advertising campaign 😉 after the merger.

Can you hear me now?
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TheVZWMan

Jul 23, 2004, 2:24 PM
kingfrog77 said:
HEy you just may see that in their next advertising campaign 😉 after the merger.

Can you hear me now?

no I'm deaf
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chris_lt1

Jul 23, 2004, 10:05 PM
kingfrog77 said:
Sometimes vision is more important than facts.Bill Gates did not have facts that 50% of all people would want to own a PC. He claimed it though. He had vision.


did you just say that? hahahaha
of course 50% of people want a PC because there is only one other choice out there....a Mac....thats like saying 50% of humans could be male hahahahahahaha
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Aleq

Jul 23, 2004, 10:32 AM
Okay, everybody sing! "Call me, don't be afraid you just call me, maybe it's late but just call me..." Just doing our bit to spread a little happiness around... **Uh, you DID put the phone onto "silent" profile, right? 'Cuz otherwise we're doing all this for nothin'** 🤭 😁 😲 😳
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tasslehawf

Jul 22, 2004, 8:28 PM
OK OK. I deserve to get flamed.

I mean I've got a nokia 3589i. It is a great phone. Great reception; very robust and reliable. I'm happy with verizon. I've never had any trouble with them. Blah blah blah.

Aren't any of you gadget people?

I'll probably just discover that Verizon is still way better and stay with them. Yada.
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:30 PM
you're blah-ing out the good parts

we're all gadget people to a degree...what do you think drew us to wireless? But reliability is the most important part of any cool gadget. Why do you think most of the ultra-new, wicked-cool, phones in Japan never make it here.....not reliable.
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tasslehawf

Jul 22, 2004, 8:34 PM
I guess I've just had good luck with phones so far. (Other than I few LG-TM510s that died). 'Haven't really dealt with any crappy phones so I guess I don't know what I'm in for.
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disturbed1

Jul 22, 2004, 8:37 PM
then you've had good luck my friend...hope it holds out for ya!
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