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Cingular Vs. Verizon

yoony22

Jun 25, 2006, 5:14 PM
Hey guys,

I currently have Cingular and was considering aout switching over.

What benefits would I get by switching over to Verizon because I'm pretty happy with my service, especially the rollover and the convenience of using my phone overseas.

Thanks,
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spum

Jun 25, 2006, 5:36 PM
I wouldn't even worry about the ability to use your phone overseas. Prepaid phones (at least in Europe) are dirt cheap to buy and set up. The main benefits you're going to notice come from coverage and customer service. Verizon's customer service is way, way better than Cingular's. Their coverage is a lot better too. Cingular can't even say they get coverage coast to coast.
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RUFF1415

Jun 25, 2006, 5:49 PM
spum said:
Cingular can't even say they get coverage coast to coast.

They can't? That's funny...because they do.

What are you getting at?
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spum

Jun 26, 2006, 4:53 PM
Try to us your phone in my state. It won't work.
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RUFF1415

Jun 26, 2006, 5:12 PM
Hmmm, okay. Do you honestly think that Verizon offers service in all 50 states? Well they don't. I believe Oklahoma is one of the one's where a Verizon signal is pretty much non-existant.

Cingular covers 100 of the top 100 markets and is the only wireless company that does so. All of the majors cover around the same amount of POPs.

Verizon is no more "nationwide" than anybody else.

So again, what are you getting at?
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clr7181

Jun 26, 2006, 11:28 PM
Verizon may not have VZW towers in Oklahoma, but I know very well that it does work there!!! You are in Extended Service Area...but I tell you what--it's better than No Service Area!
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RUFF1415

Jun 27, 2006, 12:06 AM
Funny thing is...Cingular has a larger network network than Verizon, and certainly has more towers in operation than any company in the nation.

So how is it that in your opnion Verizon can make claim to being a nationwide carrier, but Cingular cannot? 😳
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spum

Jun 27, 2006, 2:51 AM
Verizon doesn't have any towers in Oklahoma, but I can still make a phone call. You can't make a phone call from my state. You can't use your Cingular phone in all 50 states. That is my point.
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TheBlueCat

Jul 1, 2006, 2:07 AM
Good Point.. Ruff is a Nice guy.. NOT
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mar29oct

Jul 1, 2006, 9:23 AM
I live in NYC and friends who have Cingular can't wait till contract is over, service is that bad. They claim that they have "fewer drop calls' than any other carrier. Well if you cannot get conection you will have fewer drop calls. So they right in their commercials.
None of the carriers are perfect, but Verizon
is the best of the bunch.
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RUFF1415

Jul 1, 2006, 10:54 AM
WHAT IS YOUR ISSUE?!

Honestly, are you upset that you can't have Rollover or something? You read one post of mine and you decide to go back through my history and make a fool of yourself.

Get a life. Please.
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TheBlueCat

Jul 1, 2006, 10:32 PM
im sorry.. i have a drinking prob.. and i have alot of rage built up inside.. had to take it somewhere.. 🤭
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RUFF1415

Jul 2, 2006, 11:16 PM
Sorry to hear that.
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Anxiovert

Jun 27, 2006, 12:09 AM
No-one has a better network in Okalhoma city than Cingular. No one!
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 12:30 AM
Well in Tennessee Verizon kicks Cingy BUTT!!! 🤤 🤤
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fc2462

Jun 27, 2006, 3:39 AM
CDMA overall (including extended networks and roaming) has a larger footprint in the US than GSM. No one disputes the top 100 major metro areas, all the carriers have coverage there. But CDMA is what you want if you need rural coverage.
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Anxiovert

Jun 25, 2006, 6:26 PM
spum said:
Verizon's customer service is way, way better than Cingular's.


Mmmmya! And when was the last time you called or talked to a Cingular CSR?
"We can't say we have service coast to coast?" We have the Allover network. The fastest and largest ALL DIGITAL voice and data network in the US.

My question to yoony22 is: Why? If you are happy with Cingular then why switch to Vz??? It can't be their phones, is it? 'cause I'd be shocked.
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 2:20 AM
troll 👿 Ok how about this... Verizon is the only carrier to offer in store technical support. try getting your phone swapped for a warranty replacement on the same day with cingular.
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Protege

Jun 26, 2006, 2:30 PM
Fastest??? Since when is EDGE faster than Verizon's EVDO??? 😕
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Anxiovert

Jun 27, 2006, 12:13 AM
It is the fastest because wherever there's cingular service there's EDGE. Unfortunately Vz has EVDO in certain markets.
So, if you take your EVDO phone to a non- EVDO area any Cingular phone (with EDGE) will be faster than a EVDO phone. That's why we have the fastest network. Did I mention it's all digital?
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 12:32 AM
did I mention this is a VERIZON forum.... If you want to tout you're company. Then do it in your own forum. 👿
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Anxiovert

Jun 27, 2006, 12:39 AM
Excuse me, but this is a Cingular Vs Verizon thread, isn't it? So, all the bickering is justified! 😉
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 1:13 AM
yes, but as is the case with most of these long threads, the original question gets lost in all the "justifiable bickering" What benifits would the customer have in coming to Verizon, is the original question. They already have cingular and know how much they like their service. They just wanted to know what its like on this side of things.
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uscingulair

Jun 29, 2006, 5:07 PM
I live in ATL and 3G is untouchable. yes it is not in every city yet but where talkin up to 700 downstream! and 3G and edge is interoperable so if you loose a 3G signal you instantly switch to EDGE wothout missing a beat. voice coverage might be better in rural areas but as far as data is concerned there is no contest. It all depends what and where you need service for
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RUFF1415

Jun 29, 2006, 5:11 PM
And I'm assuming that's on a UMTS device?

Any word on HSDPA speeds?
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TheBlueCat

Jul 1, 2006, 2:16 AM
Funny cause Verizons 1X network is faster than EDGE data, and its vast... Evdo then kills EDGE side by side... EDGE isnt even a feture as far as I am concerned... thanks your phone is ringing...
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RUFF1415

Jul 1, 2006, 10:51 AM
1xRTT is faster than EDGE? Nooope, not a chance...
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Anxiovert

Jul 1, 2006, 11:49 AM
TheBlueCat said:
Funny cause Verizons 1X network is faster than EDGE data, and its vast... Evdo then kills EDGE side by side... EDGE isnt even a feture as far as I am concerned... thanks your phone is ringing...


WHAT???? 😳
Dude, 🤣 🤣 🤣
Are you serious? 🤣
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kerwin7777

Jul 1, 2006, 8:13 PM
First off everybody VZW has 181 MAJOR metro areas covered in terms of Broadband speeds "EVDO".

2. EDGE is 70-135 Kbps with burst 200Kbps; 1xRTT is 60-80 Kbps w/ burst 144Kbps.

3. UMTS/HSDPA is 400-700 Kbps, EVDO is 400-700 Kbps but BURST 2.0 Mbps (in 181 major cities)

4. Cingular Q4 2005 Churn 2.1% "turnover rate" Verizon Q4 2005 Churn - 1.2% - Most loyal customers in industry.

5. Cingular Cust. only get mob.-mob. with 39.99 plan or higher Verizon gets it on any plan pre-pay or post-pay.

6. Unlike cingular Verizon has real test people from there own company, 300,000+ test calls placed nationally each month.
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jul 1, 2006, 9:09 PM
kerwin7777 said:
First off everybody VZW has 181 MAJOR metro areas covered in terms of Broadband speeds "EVDO".

2. EDGE is 70-135 Kbps with burst 200Kbps; 1xRTT is 60-80 Kbps w/ burst 144Kbps.

3. UMTS/HSDPA is 400-700 Kbps, EVDO is 400-700 Kbps but BURST 2.0 Mbps (in 181 major cities)

4. Cingular Q4 2005 Churn 2.1% "turnover rate" Verizon Q4 2005 Churn - 1.2% - Most loyal customers in industry.

5. Cingular Cust. only get mob.-mob. with 39.99 plan or higher Verizon gets it on any plan pre-pay or post-pay.

6. Unlike cingular Verizon has real test people from there own company, 300,000+ test calls placed nationally each month.



Awesome info!!
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RUFF1415

Jul 2, 2006, 3:42 PM
1. True
2. True
3. True (except, I don't believe bursts are that high...are they?)
4. Why not use the most recent numbers? Cingular's churn rate was 1.8% and I believe Verizon's was 1% or something like it.
5. True
6. False. Cingular performs their own internal test drives as well. They are just as extensive as Verizon's...however they don't base claims off of their own testing. They leave that up to 3rd parties. Check out their company info on their website. The testing is described in detail.
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kerwin7777

Jul 2, 2006, 5:00 PM
I went and looked for the detail on how cingular test their network and could not find it in the past. Where did you find that info, I would be interested to know.
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kerwin7777

Jul 2, 2006, 5:01 PM
RUFF1415 said:
1. True
2. True
3. True (except, I don't believe bursts are that high...are they?)
4. Why not use the most recent numbers? Cingular's churn rate was 1.8% and I believe Verizon's was 1% or something like it.
5. True
6. False. Cingular performs their own internal test drives as well. They are just as extensive as Verizon's...however they don't base claims off of their own testing. They leave that up to 3rd parties. Check out their company info on their website. The testing is described in detail.


Bursts are that high. 🙂
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RUFF1415

Jul 2, 2006, 10:07 PM
The link to the original information that I was referring to seemed to have moved, however an excerpt from a recent press release gave a few more details.

Network Testing

Cingular diligently monitors the quality and coverage of its network. Across the nation technicians, and other third-parties, will drive test nearly 30 million miles of the network during the year to improve coverage and quality. That's the equivalent of more than 50 round trips to the moon to ensure customers receive the best possible wireless experience in the United States.


http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_rele ... »
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Protege

Jun 27, 2006, 8:32 AM
The availability of EV-DO has nothing to do with the fact that it is still much faster than EDGE (even class 10)
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Protege

Jun 26, 2006, 2:32 PM
Verizon's new lineup of phones has some pretty impressive stuff... Cingular does too but you should take a look at the MOTO v3m,LG 8300,MOTO Q,LG VX9300.........These are all great phones.....
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 8:41 PM
9300???? you mean 9800??
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Protege

Jun 27, 2006, 12:16 AM
you're right
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spum

Jun 26, 2006, 4:56 PM
Referring to customer service...upgrade fees? Not with Verizon.

You may have the largest all digital network...that doesn't mean you have the best coverage.
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Anxiovert

Jun 26, 2006, 11:59 PM
spum said:
You may have the largest all digital network...that doesn't mean you have the best coverage.


Well, network integration is not complete. It is expected to be completly done by the end of 2007 and net adds bettwen the two are pretty darn close (now). What do you think is gonna happen after we achive our Gold network? Perhaps, am I the only one who see ahead in here? Perhaps not 🙄
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satch of the moe

Jun 27, 2006, 9:42 AM
perhaps you are forgetting that is a about a year and a half away? perhaps you are forgetting that verizon will not sit there but will be also enhancing and expanding our network coverage? perhaps you paid way to much for a crappy at&t company? perhaps you need to finally say what name your company is going to stick with for good? perhaps you are not all there? 😳 Your only response is well we aint complete yet. Well your company bought at& crappy t so just deal with. TGhen when it is the end of 07 then you can well we are done. And we will say well look where we are now. Till then oh well
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uscingulair

Jun 29, 2006, 5:10 PM
I see it..CDMA=Betamax You can only upgrade and enhance and old technology so much
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AwpdsR

Jul 1, 2006, 4:13 PM
Anxiovert said:
spum said:
Verizon's customer service is way, way better than Cingular's.


Mmmmya! And when was the last time you called or talked to a Cingular CSR?.



i have verizon now and had cingular before and (while i hate dealing with wireless companies in general) cingular's customer service is unreasonably horrible. Verizons isnt good but its alot better
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MidnightDT

Jun 25, 2006, 6:38 PM
I see the cingular trolls are here in force.

Cingular is a good company, as with all carriers their are pro's and cons. Cingular has rollover minutes and can roam in more countrys.

Verizon Wireless has better customer care, better customer satisfaction, a better/larger data network, a more reliable voice network, a better PDA phone line up, and a rapidly improving handset lineup.

Ultimatly it is up to you. If you have the VZ itch try it out for the 15 days while keeping your Cingular service active. If you are not satisfied cancel the VZW account and keep your cingular. If you are satisfied port your cingular number over to VZW.

we could argue on a message board all day about whos better at this and that but ultimatly seeing is b...
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RUFF1415

Jun 25, 2006, 8:24 PM
Verizon does not have a larger data network! That is the falsest statement I have heard in a long time.

I think just about everybody has a larger data network than Verizon these days. We all know that horrid enhanced services map...
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MidnightDT

Jun 25, 2006, 10:15 PM
what i meant was larger broadband data network, not 1xrtt vs edge.
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Anxiovert

Jun 25, 2006, 10:47 PM
Doesn't Sprint have more EV-DO markets than Vz? To be honest with you I don't know too much about Sprint. But I do remember seeing somewhere that Sprint has more EVDO markets than Vz. Is this true?
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RUFF1415

Jun 25, 2006, 11:09 PM
I believe so. Last time I checked I believe Sprint had EVDO coverage in 185 markets and Verizon had EVDO in only 160. Don't take that for fact though, as I may just be recalling mixed up info.
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TheBlueCat

Jul 1, 2006, 2:18 AM
Seeing as how Cingy dosnt have any broadband I think you lose..
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RUFF1415

Jul 1, 2006, 10:52 AM
You're right, they don't. 🤨

Who said anything about Cingular and broadband anyway?
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MidnightDT

Jun 26, 2006, 12:25 AM
ya sprint does have evdo coverage in more markets then vzw. they have coverage for 150 million americans where as vzw has like 148 million.

he should probably go with sprint 🤣
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RUFF1415

Jun 26, 2006, 1:21 AM
Well even so, doesn't that make your statement false all around?

You say Verizon has the largest data network...

Yet you failed to specify that you were talking strictly EVDO and not 1xRTT where Cingular has everyone beat with EDGE. Then, you continue on to admit that Sprint covers more POPs with EVDO than Verizon does anyway.

Hmmm...
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 2:22 AM
you guys get a room 😲
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MidnightDT

Jun 26, 2006, 2:25 AM
whats the title of the post RUFF. is it Sprint vs Verizon? I'm not talking about sprint.

you guys get so affected anytime someone even mentions Verizon. alot of animosity considering cingular is "#1" right?
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 2:28 AM
I don't care about dropped calls over the whole spectrum anyway. Who cares if cingular has the fewest dropped calls in America? What I care about is the coverage is my hometown. I say try all the carriers out. Which ever one works better where you are, then go with that one.
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RUFF1415

Jun 26, 2006, 10:01 AM
MidnightDT said:
whats the title of the post RUFF. is it Sprint vs Verizon? I'm not talking about sprint.

you guys get so affected anytime someone even mentions Verizon. alot of animosity considering cingular is "#1" right?

Well it sure doesn't look like the title is called "Lies I tell about Verizon." And me get so affected when somebody mentions Verizon? Not really. I have no problem with Verizon whatsoever. I have praised them many times before. Do I really have to go back and dig up all those posts? I'm sure you could do it yourself in a matter of a few minutes.

So anyway...it's okay to slip misinformation into a post as long as it has nothing to do with the topic? Sweet! 🙄
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 10:03 AM
yeah Verizon can't actually say they have the largest network anymore, but they do have the best and most reliable.
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MidnightDT

Jun 26, 2006, 10:53 PM
what "lies" have i posted ruff? I was misquoted by myself in my first post when i said DATA network i meant 3g becuase thats what I think of when i think of data, 3g. this is 2006 afterall. Verizon has a larger 3g network then cingular. sprint is not relivant this guy asked verizon or cingular and i gave info. stop whining
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RUFF1415

Jun 26, 2006, 10:59 PM
I am certainly not whining. You typed what you typed, whether you meant another thing entirely or not.

Right?
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MidnightDT

Jun 26, 2006, 11:05 PM
i corrected myself on my second post after you pointed it out, so why is it that you have made 5 more posts after the fact still complaining about the same thing?

VZW has the better voice network, and the better data network(3G in alot more areas) then Cingular.


better?
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satch of the moe

Jun 27, 2006, 6:11 AM
oh my typically cingular rep still yelling about something. Let see can we take cingular seriously when they paid what 43 billion for a company that was only getting 100 or 200 thousand net adds a quarter when every one else was getting more than that in a month. oh yeah smart company there. oh wait we have more bars raised wait the bars are going down someone give the network more viagra. hey there is a great way to get your money get viagra to sponsor your network, we may have messed up in the past but not look at this 4 hr .. well you get the idea 🤣
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TheBlueCat

Jul 1, 2006, 2:20 AM
Edge isnt crap.. thanks have a nice day.. where do you live anyhow.. if its in a EVDO market Switch and save yourself some time..foo
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RUFF1415

Jul 1, 2006, 10:57 AM
TheBlueCat said:
Edge isnt crap.. thanks have a nice day..

I fully agree that EDGE isn't crap. 😳
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GinniUA

Jun 25, 2006, 8:15 PM
I was thinking about it too ..

just sick and tired of dropping calls and while I do have a call it sounds like sh**
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ygbhen

Jun 25, 2006, 8:42 PM
Well, if you are happy why are you thinking of switching. I just switched again from Verizon to Cingular and they both have had good coverage everywhere I have been. VZ does have high speed internet in more places but coverage should not be an issue with either. If you have a lot of friends who have Cingular, then remember about the free mobile-to-mobile. I did not take that into consideration when I switched and my phone bills with VZ where averaging 150 per month from 65 with Cingy. To make a long story short, I say if your happy with your service then keep it but if you must, take VZ for a spin to see if they might work better for you. Dont listen to the fanboys about coverage, try it out for yourself. I get sick of these posts whe...
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WirelessG

Jun 26, 2006, 12:12 AM
Yeah but Cingular has "The Fewest Dropped Calls!" And don't take my word for it, a "leading independent research company proved it!" LOL....
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Anxiovert

Jun 26, 2006, 1:18 AM
That should read:

WirelessG said:
Yeah but Cingular has "The Fewest Dropped Calls!" And don't take my word for it, a "Adelphia" proved it....


Why is it so hard for you to remember the name of the Leading Independent Research Company?
I bet that if I ask you who or what Nielsen Research does; you would have no idea.
Well, they are both research companies that work independently and their results are trusted by many others in the industry (not just Cingular) Do some research please.
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RUFF1415

Jun 26, 2006, 1:22 AM
Where did Adelphia come from!? 😕

Telephia, perhaps?
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Anxiovert

Jun 26, 2006, 1:56 AM
Oops! sorry! I've been drinking....
🤭 🤭 🤭
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 2:25 AM
LOL drunk at trolling on Vzw message boards. there is a cingular rep for ya!
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Anxiovert

Jun 26, 2006, 11:48 PM
liquifiedgr00ve said:
LOL drunk at trolling on Vzw message boards. there is a cingular rep for ya!


😳 Oh no you didn't! 😡
FYI Im not a CSR. 🙄
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satch of the moe

Jun 27, 2006, 5:55 AM
well if you are drunk quit hogging all the good stuff. Dam@#t share your stash. 🤣 🤣
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FoneFreek

Jun 26, 2006, 2:37 AM
Verizon happens to add random charges, they're phone always break, or have some type of software issue, static is a major issue, not to mention customer service SUCKS!!!! They're a$$holes!!!

SO OVERALL, VERIZON SUCKS! DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT SWITCHING!! If you need more reasons, e-mail me....PLEASE, xxlifexgoesxonxx@msn.com


I can give you PLENTY more.

-Gregory
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MidnightDT

Jun 26, 2006, 4:46 AM
the same companys that make verizon's phones make phones for cingular, sprint, alltel, and tmobile (some exceptions obviously)

vzw doesnt add "random charges" why dont you elaborate for us.

vzw is number one in customer service in 5/6 regions and number 2 in the 6th. sorry that you had a negative experience but blanket statements are never accurate.
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satch of the moe

Jun 26, 2006, 5:58 AM
i think fone freek is just a cingy rep in hiding. or you are probably one of those people that you or your kids download something or do one of those texting services you see on tv and claim you did not do it. vzw does not add hidden charges. or are you thinking taxes or surcharges. hope not cause every company has this so get a life. as for info try vzw out for 15 days as listed above. i would say try the lgvx8300 has good audio quality and if not happy just return the phone in 15 days and just pay for the days of service and any usage you may have had. Good luck
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 26, 2006, 10:12 AM
yeah I love it when people come in and say "I never downloaded nothing!" I'm like "First, that was a double negative. Second, do you understand what download means?" "yeah! its when you send them messages to that there T.v." "well sir, sometimes that will show up in the download section of your bill, but how about ringtones?" "Yeah I got em" "well those count too. I see you have 85 different versions of Thank God I'm a Country Boy." "Yeah but those aren't downloads!" LOL I could go on and on.
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FoneFreek

Jun 26, 2006, 11:43 AM
Obviously they make phones for both companies, but most of their CDMA branches suck. not to mention CDMA sucks in general. I personally don't like it. I know it's still a realatively new technology, i just don't like it.

and as for random charges, one great example out of about 10-15 is one month when i had switched to cellular one and got the unlimited minutes plan "Stop Counting Your Minutes Plan" so i TURNED OFF my verizon phone COMPLETELY!! It was off for over a month and a half, well they said i went 700 minutes over my 2500 minutes. And there is no possible way that is true. So thanks to me being smart i walked out with my phone shut down with no early termination fee and it was only a year into a 2 year contract.
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FoneFreek

Jun 26, 2006, 11:45 AM
I've never been so happy to leave a store.....oh and when i mean off, i mean Powered Off, Nothing with my account.
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satch of the moe

Jun 26, 2006, 12:57 PM
omg cell one has the worst cust service/techs every. I used to have them took aphone in to be check out dropping some calls rep takes the battery off beat the phone on the desk about 10 times blows on it puts back on and hands it back. 😳 i could have beat the sh*t out of my phone and stayed home. Wow quality service there.
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needmoretoys

Jun 26, 2006, 5:39 AM
Despite the idiot trolls, there has been some good advice:
1. If you are happy, why switch?
2. Try Verizon for the free 15 days and compare.
3. They all have good and bad points.
All I can say is that I have had Verizon for the past 4 years and am very happy with them. I believe that we have had only 2 dropped calls in the past 6 months, but I can only remember 1 clearly. That one happened while we were driving in a remote area and left coverage. Before Verizon, we had AT&T and had dropped calls frequently. Yes, I know, that is a long time ago. We just got new phones and looked at Sprint and Cingular before we signed up for another 2 year agreement. For us, Verizon was the best. The others had some advantages, but Verizon won out....
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carlsberg

Jun 26, 2006, 6:09 AM
If you want to use your phone overseas it is best you stay with Cingular.

Yes, it is cheap to get paid account overseas but you still have to provide a GSM phone. Not all GSM phones are cheap. I know this because my parents live over seas and I use an prepaid account while visiting them. Cingular is GSM and Verizon is not.

As for customer service I can't really comment on that.
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Shadow30092

Jun 26, 2006, 8:52 AM
Verizon Wireless is alot better than Cingular for the following reasons IN MY AREA!!!! Notice I said in my area, because I do not wont to start a war on these threads. When I had cingular a few months I all of the sudden could not make calls in my house. I had a cingular guy come to my house to test my connection and he said that it was because I have WiFi in my house. He said that could be the only reason for me not getting a signal. Well I turned off my WiFi while he was there and I still did not get any signal......Well as the conversation progressed he went on to list several reasons. But he said that I am in perfect coverage area. So anyways he said that I would not have to pay the ETF. WEll to go on they said cingular said that I would...
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Anxiovert

Jun 26, 2006, 12:43 PM
Shadow30092 said:
I had a cingular guy come to my house to test my connection and he said that it was because I have WiFi in my house. He said that could be the only reason for me not getting a signal. Well I turned off my WiFi while he was there and I still did not get any signal......Well as the conversation progressed he went on to list several reasons. But he said that I am in perfect coverage area. So anyways he said that I would not have to pay the ETF.


Riiiiiiiiiight!
LMAO, gosh! you plp just make up stories no matter how unrealistic they are.

ROTFLMAO! You had a Cingular guy come to your house! LOL whatever!
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ArmySF

Jun 26, 2006, 1:05 PM
its not that hard to believe..i have an entire family of network specialist following me around all the time..its pretty damn cool 😁
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wfine81

Jun 26, 2006, 2:02 PM
Yeah, me too, this one time I went out to meet a "business partner" kinda a mob looking guy, we were out in this feild, and he was like "I thought I told you to come alone" and I was like "I did" then he said "well who are they?" So I said "thats my network" and he was like "really?"

Turns out that at another place he does business his phone didnt work either (the docks), so he switched to Verizon now and its all good.
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ArmySF

Jun 26, 2006, 2:05 PM
🤣 sounds like the same cool network
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spum

Jun 27, 2006, 3:03 AM
I actually had something computer related with a Cingular phone in my house. Nothing to do with signal, but my girlfriend used to be on Cingular. Every time she had her phone in my room (it was the bluetooth blue-faced motorola that everybody has), the speakers on my computer would give a wicked feedback. When we figured out it was her phone that was causing it, she just turned it off every time she came over. I have no idea what would cause that except for maybe the phone trying to pull a signal that it couldn't get? Anyway...another reason not to get Cingular.
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 12:40 PM
when I have my phone on the desk (lg8100) next to the speakers. Sometimes they randomly pop. And if I am about to recieve a call or text they pop as well. Whats that about?
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spum

Jun 27, 2006, 12:57 PM
The only thing I can think of is that the speaker is picking up the frequency of your phone and reacting to it. With her phone, it was sort of a constant squeal if it was within like 6 feet of the computer.
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 12:58 PM
hmmmm... is big brother listen to us through our own devices??? 😳
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spum

Jun 27, 2006, 1:41 PM
Considering Bush just made an amendment that says he can supercede the law in the name of national security, it wouldn't surprise me.
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liquifiedgr00ve

Jun 27, 2006, 3:00 PM
👿 BUSH! 👿
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golfwannabe81

Jun 26, 2006, 12:21 PM
Well... as someone who uses Verizon and used to use/work for Cingular, I'll tell you this. Where I am (midwest) Cingular is atrocious. When I had my cingular phone, I dropped calls, I had poor reception, was not overly pleased with my phone (I did have a cheap one, though) and had alot of people returning their phones.

I have very little problem with Verizon, though. I like my phone(s - I have two), I can count on one hand the number of dropped calls I've had in almost two years, I've had little to no trouble with customer service and have been pleased with my experience. The retail store where I live is less than desirable, though. I was never overly pleased with their product knowledge or the time to be acknowledged (a secret shopper wi...
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wfine81

Jun 26, 2006, 12:48 PM
It seems at least once a month somebody starts a thread like this, wheather it is a honest question comparing Cingy and VZW or a blatent attempt at starting a argument it just seems like somebody always starts a thread and all hell breaks loose, and I thought Kingfrog was gone! lol
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GinniUA

Jun 26, 2006, 1:12 PM
Just stay with Cingular if you like them ...

Because here in a few months you are going to see the name change again (to att) and you know how the new att family does advertising!


good comercials are on the way (maybe they will make you feel better about having cingular)


LMAO 😁
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radioshacker

Jun 26, 2006, 2:00 PM
Oh, we all know Verizon is better. They have the lowest churn rate, most ported-in numbers, and the highest ever rating for customer service. Cingular may be a lot of things but it's not the best cell phone company. Verizon is. That's not just my opinion, it's a fact.
😎
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ygbhen

Jun 26, 2006, 2:16 PM
in your area it might be. Someone please kill this thread. Dont you guys get tired of this.
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yoony22

Jun 26, 2006, 2:27 PM
Wow, thanks so much for all your replies.

I got alot of feedback which is good but some stuff just sounds stupid. It is not cheap to buy a GSM phone, unless you want a 10yr. old phone. When I was traveling, I was so glad that I had my GSM Cingular phone with me. Buy an extra phone??? That is so ridiculous.

I do think the whole going to a store and getting a replacement phone idea is tempting, because I did have to replace my phone and it was a pain in the ass, but I only had to do it once in my 4 yrs. with Cingular.

I think afterall, I will stay with them since I'm pretty happy with them. There seems to be pros and cons, but all I gotta say is that I would never consider any other company than these two, especially Sprint and T-M...
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spum

Jun 27, 2006, 3:07 AM
yoony22 said:
It is not cheap to buy a GSM phone, unless you want a 10yr. old phone. When I was traveling, I was so glad that I had my GSM Cingular phone with me. Buy an extra phone??? That is so ridiculous.


When I was in England, I bought a prepaid phone for about $20. If you don't care about features and you just need a phone while overseas, they're dirt cheap.
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ArmySF

Jun 26, 2006, 3:04 PM
Coke is the clear winner, better taste and coverage
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wfine81

Jun 26, 2006, 3:19 PM
Now wait a minute; you originally hated Coke, then went and tried Pepsi, then came back and said how much better Coke was then Pepsi. Then you went to Sprite becasue you said Coke sucked and Sprite would give you a discount through your friend. Then you realized how much better Coke tasted and now your a Coke head again! 😉

What next? Dr. Pepper?
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ArmySF

Jun 26, 2006, 3:21 PM
🤣 LMAO nah I'm sticking with Coke 🙂
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wfine81

Jun 26, 2006, 3:23 PM
Thats good to hear, there nothing like the Classic Taste!
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needmoretoys

Jun 26, 2006, 4:05 PM
Oh great, now you did it. There will be 50 posts by the Pepsi trolls by this time tomorrow.
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jcoberg10

Jun 26, 2006, 5:56 PM
Pepsi is better beacause their can's open easier.

Pepsi is better because They have sales more often.

Pepsi is better because they have mountain dew!!!

Pepsi is better because blue is better than red

Pepsi is better because coke leaves a funny taste in your mouth like you ate sand! : )

🤣 🙄 😁 😎

I just had to lol
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needmoretoys

Jun 26, 2006, 6:22 PM
Very good - LOL
This actually makes more sense than the original discussion.
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satch of the moe

Jun 27, 2006, 5:52 AM
pepsie rocks. coke is only good with rum there you i said it. 😲 . also cant help but say it. I had coke once went to the store for help i had it 16 days they would not help wanted me to take a refurb can looked all scratched up talk about bad service also when i opened the can it has all type of static and weird noises. Now i have pepsi. I open my can it is crystal clear sounding. I need to get this can repalce after 16 day they gave me a new can. No having to worry getting a used one lord knows how many nasty hairy people drank out of the refurb coke can yuk. 🤣 🤣 sorry could not help it 😈
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caesar6591

Jun 27, 2006, 9:54 AM
In most metro area's Cingular and Verizon have equal coverage. I have had them both. They are equal in coverage in most places but Verizon is better for rural areas. With the phones, Cingular gets the cooler ones first and Verizon takes them and destroy's them.
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nextel18

Jun 27, 2006, 2:38 PM
Well Verizon has very good coverage, ok plans, and a pretty good EV-DO speed and applications.

It also depends what you are going to use Verizon for; if you want it for coverage then pick them, but for data or other things stay with Cingular.
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incognitoool

Jul 1, 2006, 8:58 AM
Here's my advice...
Get what works the best at wherever you are the most often... maybe your home.
At my house, verizon barely works. I get disconnects, choppy reception and difficulty placing calls. It's so bad that I have to use an external antenna on the phone to get a signal at all. Meanwhile, cingular has perfect reception at my house. Unfortunatley, I am stuck with verizon for another year, but I'd be so happy to get out of it.
I can tell you one "hope" story about verizon. Last year, I went to upstate NY to go camping, and I was the only one of my friends who had any reception... I also had full reception.
Again, it depends where you're using your phone. Verizon seems to be better out in bumblef**k. But if you're in a major city ...
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satch of the moe

Jul 1, 2006, 11:41 AM
for the most part big cities should be good with verizon. prev post may have been due to a phone issue. terrain interferring with the signal, or the building may have done this also
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kerwin7777

Jul 1, 2006, 8:14 PM
yoony22 said:
Hey guys,

I currently have Cingular and was considering aout switching over.

What benefits would I get by switching over to Verizon because I'm pretty happy with my service, especially the rollover and the convenience of using my phone overseas.

Thanks,



First off everybody VZW has 181 MAJOR metro areas covered in terms of Broadband speeds "EVDO".

2. EDGE is 70-135 Kbps with burst 200Kbps; 1xRTT is 60-80 Kbps w/ burst 144Kbps.

3. UMTS/HSDPA is 400-700 Kbps, EVDO is 400-700 Kbps but BURST 2.0 Mbps (in 181 major cities)

4. Cingular Q4 2005 Churn 2.1% "turnover rate" Verizon Q4 2005 Churn - 1.2% - Most loyal customers in industry.

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2Rogue4U

Jul 1, 2006, 9:31 PM
Doesn't anyone ever get tired of this crap, on carrier versus carrier?!

I use 2 different carriers all the time. Because none of the "carriers" are perfect!

So stop this feuding on who's better, nobody cares but tech freaks!
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renardlee

Jul 2, 2006, 4:56 PM
to yoony22, if you're happy with cingular then it would be good to stay with them unless they did sumthin that really ticked you off then change your provider, if cingular is satisfying all your needs as a cell phone company then its no need to change, and i dont care who says which network is the best, verizon and cingular are good in my opinion and there are more important things besides coverage as far as a network even tho i look at coverage as an important thing, i just get tired of people boasting a wireless company with "massive" coverage when basically they have a network that is digital and analog and the most of the network or at least in rural areas are backed up by an outdated analog network(to be fair cingular uses amps too) i l...
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RUFF1415

Jul 2, 2006, 10:10 PM
Actually, Cingular does not use AMPS. Not a single handset they sell supports analog and it has been so for at least a year now.

TDMA phones were the only phones to use AMPS. Cingular's GSM network is 100% digital, hence their "largest all-digital network in America" claims.
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