Verizon will be #2 in three years?
I suppose. I know that was a small sampling of Verizon users reflected in that "poll" but it was eye opening for a couple of reasons.
1. Most new users of cell technology are and will be young new 'Power" users and they will tend toward the bells and whistles of the plethora of GSM product, as well many of their friends will already be on that technology because of the "entry fee" of no credit users. This is not a good long term prospect for Verizon. Once the kids get off their family plans they will switch if already on Verizon to another carrier.
2.Although mainly vocal and hardcore users or even cell phone "hobbiests" even read the forums their opinions are valid and their knowledge of prices vs technology will be respected in the g...
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1. Most new users of cell technology are and will be young new 'Power" users and they will tend toward the bells and whistles of the plethora of GSM product, as well many of their friends will already be on that technology because of the "entry fee" of no credit users. This is not a good long term prospect for Verizon. Once the kids get off their family plans they will switch if already on Verizon to another carrier.
2.Although mainly vocal and hardcore users or even cell phone "hobbiests" even read the forums their opinions are valid and their knowledge of prices vs technology will be respected in the g...
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kingfrog77 said:
In reference to GSM- The phone technology is just better and thats what most carry around in their hands.
"its just better" lol. i love that response.
why is it better? "it just is, ok?"
more people in this country drive GEO Metro's than Ferrari F-50's. because most people have Metro's, that must make them better. 😕
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Yes there are more features on the GSM phones. There are more choices and they can be interchanged easily and unblocked for use overseas or with ANY GSM carrier. That makes them a better technological choice yes....
Many Verizon users are claiming to port to GSM as soon as the network has the coverage they currently enjoy. That is from users of Verizon. I saw no poll where people want to switch to Verizon because of the technology and phones. Its usually because of coverage issues which will be resolved.
The US will have complete GSM coverage good enough for most users and thats when the younger gen users with break from daddy's phone company and get the "cool and hip" phones from less expensive carriers. Maybe not this year or next b...
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Many Verizon users are claiming to port to GSM as soon as the network has the coverage they currently enjoy. That is from users of Verizon. I saw no poll where people want to switch to Verizon because of the technology and phones. Its usually because of coverage issues which will be resolved.
The US will have complete GSM coverage good enough for most users and thats when the younger gen users with break from daddy's phone company and get the "cool and hip" phones from less expensive carriers. Maybe not this year or next b...
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Yes there are more features on the GSM phones. There are more choices and they can be interchanged easily and unblocked for use overseas or with ANY GSM carrier. That makes them a better technological choice yes....
Many Verizon users are claiming to port to GSM as soon as the network has the coverage they currently enjoy. That is from users of Verizon. I saw no poll where people want to switch to Verizon because of the technology and phones. Its usually because of coverage issues which will be resolved.
The US will have complete GSM coverage good enough for most users and thats when the younger gen users with break from daddy's phone company and get the "cool and hip" phones from less expensive ca
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I hate individuals that try to speak like their educated in the wireless industry. We all know that VZW will remain ahead of the competition and that we'll continue with positive growth.
It's completely stupid for others in this forum to make assumptions and state something that isn't even close to being true.
Verizon Wireless Representive
I hate individuals that try to speak like their educated in the wireless industry. We all know that VZW will remain ahead of the competition and that we'll continue with positive growth.
It's completely stupid for others in this forum to make assumptions and state something that isn't even close to being true.
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I think its stupid to assume things will stay the same always. Xerox, IBM, Nokia, GM, Apple and many more. All number one and with the exception of Nokia who still is number one but going the wrong way have fallen of the perch. All thought the dream would last forever. No vision. Plenty of arrogance.
I have read a few CDMA vs GMS articles from UNBIASED sources and none claimed one technology is light years better. Both had their plus and yes minuses. All stated GSM tended to provide more choices and flexibilty in equipment and data.
Verizon will continue positive growth but only until GSM can equal the coverage area. Then the "features", choices,price and selection will take over and you will suddenly see less positive growth, then ...
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I have read a few CDMA vs GMS articles from UNBIASED sources and none claimed one technology is light years better. Both had their plus and yes minuses. All stated GSM tended to provide more choices and flexibilty in equipment and data.
Verizon will continue positive growth but only until GSM can equal the coverage area. Then the "features", choices,price and selection will take over and you will suddenly see less positive growth, then ...
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The "youngins" (college kids) your talking about is who I sell to almost everyday and they love what we have to offer. As far as teenagers, they get the phone "Daddy" buys for them since they don't have enough credit to get there own, unless they have the deposit money to pay for it. And the phone "Daddy" usually gets is the one the "teenager" picks out, if not they get what they get until they get enough credit and establish themselves enough to have their own contract.
One thing your not comprehending is you can't tell the future. So, stop saying what will happen tomorrow. You don't know, but you can know that Verizon is not on top because we are arrogant, or we wouldn't be on top. Why would more consumers pick a company that was a...
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One thing your not comprehending is you can't tell the future. So, stop saying what will happen tomorrow. You don't know, but you can know that Verizon is not on top because we are arrogant, or we wouldn't be on top. Why would more consumers pick a company that was a...
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Yeah they will buy Daddy's free phone and love it until they get older and see their friends BT T637
or BT Nokia..or any other technologically current phone with features Verizon will not impliment until they become as common as Caller ID!!!1
Predicting the future is called vision. Something it appears Verizon decision makers don't seem to have any more....
I certainly can see it reading the rants from your own customers. Its one thing to move from a Carrier for better coverage or customer service. Its a total other thing to read about LT Verizon users willing to step down in those areas to in order to enjoy up to date technology......Now that show be of concern to any Verizon employeee. And what of the GSM port overs who discover th...
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or BT Nokia..or any other technologically current phone with features Verizon will not impliment until they become as common as Caller ID!!!1
Predicting the future is called vision. Something it appears Verizon decision makers don't seem to have any more....
I certainly can see it reading the rants from your own customers. Its one thing to move from a Carrier for better coverage or customer service. Its a total other thing to read about LT Verizon users willing to step down in those areas to in order to enjoy up to date technology......Now that show be of concern to any Verizon employeee. And what of the GSM port overs who discover th...
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kingfrog77 said:
I think its stupid to assume things will stay the same always. Xerox, IBM, Nokia, GM, Apple and many more. All number one and with the exception of Nokia who still is number one but going the wrong way have fallen of the perch. All thought the dream would last forever. No vision. Plenty of arrogance.
I have read a few CDMA vs GMS articles from UNBIASED sources and none claimed one technology is light years better. Both had their plus and yes minuses. All stated GSM tended to provide more choices and flexibilty in equipment and data.
For the 32nd time, do yourself a favor and LEARN HOW CDMA AND TDMA works. If you stopped spouting out uneducated responses and if you actually had ANY ki...
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The V710 is not available yet as of today! More Verizon "its comming" speak! That is one of the most used phrases around Verizon reps. Along with the JD Powers stuff...as if everybody knows who THEY are.
Someday in the future you will understand how business really works and you will remember...
Its not the technology.......nobody cares Its about coverage, features, choices, flexibility and price. Right now its coverage that hampers GSM carriers but it will not be for too long....the rest belong to GSM Carriers features, choices, flexibility and price
Someday in the future you will understand how business really works and you will remember...
Its not the technology.......nobody cares Its about coverage, features, choices, flexibility and price. Right now its coverage that hampers GSM carriers but it will not be for too long....the rest belong to GSM Carriers features, choices, flexibility and price
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The V710 is not available yet as of today! More Verizon "its comming" speak! That is one of the most used phrases around Verizon reps. Along with the JD Powers stuff...as if everybody knows who THEY are.
Someday in the future you will understand how business really works and you will remember...
Its not the technology.......nobody cares Its about coverage, features, choices, flexibility and price. Right now its coverage that hampers GSM carriers but it will not be for too long....the rest belong to GSM Carriers features, choices, flexibility and price
So now you're saying that it's not the technology. You are contradicting yourself. Before you were saying that "GSM is somehow more ...
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Quote me where I claimed GSM was technologically superior to CDMA.... I said the PHONES were more advanced. The FLEXIBILITY is more advanced, The CHOICES are MORE......
I did say I did not believe the extent of the CDMA edge is or will be enough to become the only viable option.No publication has disagreed with that despite the CDMA edge
... I do believe GSM will grow in line with CDMA and when the COVERAGE is equal I believe GSM will overtake CDMA because of the Price, flexibility, and shear phone selection.
I as well believe the young more technical savy consumers will sacrifice JD Power and all the number one ratings in favor of NOW being able to play MP3 tunes (and ringtones) on their phones via swappable flash memory cards and...
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I did say I did not believe the extent of the CDMA edge is or will be enough to become the only viable option.No publication has disagreed with that despite the CDMA edge
... I do believe GSM will grow in line with CDMA and when the COVERAGE is equal I believe GSM will overtake CDMA because of the Price, flexibility, and shear phone selection.
I as well believe the young more technical savy consumers will sacrifice JD Power and all the number one ratings in favor of NOW being able to play MP3 tunes (and ringtones) on their phones via swappable flash memory cards and...
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Quote me where I claimed GSM was technologically superior to CDMA.... I said the PHONES were more advanced. The FLEXIBILITY is more advanced, The CHOICES are MORE......
I did say I did not believe the extent of the CDMA edge is or will be enough to become the only viable option.No publication has disagreed with that despite the CDMA edge
... I do believe GSM will grow in line with CDMA and when the COVERAGE is equal I believe GSM will overtake CDMA because of the Price, flexibility, and shear phone selection.
I as well believe the young more technical savy consumers will sacrifice JD Power and all the number one ratings in favor of NOW being able to play MP3 tunes (and ringtones) on their phones
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>>And then you woke up!
Great response there.
Think about what you are saying for a minute.
Ok, now that you have thought about it, you say that the features offered NOW by GSM are what is going to sway users to GSM over CDMA TOMORROW. Well, since you read this web site, I am SURE you have heard of a little thing that BOTH Verizon and Alltel are coming out with very shortly called "EV-DO." You must have heard of this? It is a platform technology made for CDMA that adds the speed ability to do things like direct connect like Nextel has now, and the ability to offer SUPERIOR applications and features than what is CURRENTLY offered.
Ok, now I know what you are going to say next. No, I am not a mind reader, but you are very predic...
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Great response there.
Think about what you are saying for a minute.
Ok, now that you have thought about it, you say that the features offered NOW by GSM are what is going to sway users to GSM over CDMA TOMORROW. Well, since you read this web site, I am SURE you have heard of a little thing that BOTH Verizon and Alltel are coming out with very shortly called "EV-DO." You must have heard of this? It is a platform technology made for CDMA that adds the speed ability to do things like direct connect like Nextel has now, and the ability to offer SUPERIOR applications and features than what is CURRENTLY offered.
Ok, now I know what you are going to say next. No, I am not a mind reader, but you are very predic...
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85 percent... you have one NOW? Cingular had one a YEAR ago... and it was a Nokia...much more reliable historically than an OHNOrola
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phonepimp3376 said:
85 percent... you have one NOW? Cingular had one a YEAR ago... and it was a Nokia...much more reliable historically than an OHNOrola
Congratulations on having it a year ago. We aren't selling history books.
We NOW have bluetooth, a GSM capable phone, a megapixel camera phone, an Mp3 phone, speaker phones, and video phones.
So in conclusion, besides an inferior TDMA technology and a sub-par network, what does ATT/Cingular offer that we dont? 🙄
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85 percent... have you TRIED our network lately? Since GSM? or are you just buying what the geeky little monkey on your window clings says. Which even VZW is smart enough to admit is based on their OWN testing.
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You NOW have bluetooth and a megapixel camera and mp3? Well how nice for you. Sounds like you have the V710. Which means you much be living in the distant future, since I have been waiting since I read about it in the Chicago papers in January.
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You NOW have bluetooth and a megapixel camera and mp3? Well how nice for you. Sounds like you have the V710. Which means you much be living in the distant future, since I have been waiting since I read about it in the Chicago papers in January.
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You're saying we dont have it yet? that's wierd. My roommate has one. Wait, hmmm he must have built it himself. 🙄
Again, learn your stuff before posting. thanks 😕
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According to VZW and phonescoop.com, the 710 has NOT been released yet. chances are if your friend has the 710, he either has a testing model, or got it outside the US.
Learn YOUR stuff before posting... can you hear me now?
Learn YOUR stuff before posting... can you hear me now?
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phonepimp3376 said:
According to VZW and phonescoop.com, the 710 has NOT been released yet. chances are if your friend has the 710, he either has a testing model, or got it outside the US.
Learn YOUR stuff before posting... can you hear me now?
Wrong. It is available, just through specific branches. But that's besides the point. The point is that IT IS AVAILABLE. 😁
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Oh, btw... thought you might enjoy these RECENT articles on growth:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/11196.shtml »
http://www.the3gportal.com/3gpnews/archives/007220.html »
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/11196.shtml »
http://www.the3gportal.com/3gpnews/archives/007220.html »
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phonepimp3376 said:
Then why is everyone begging for it in every post? lol
Good question. *hint hint* ebay, folks *hint hint*. LOL
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All I have to say about your "I have read nowhere that GSM is better or worse overall than CDMA". Educate yourself and check out this third party,un-bias website with tons of facts and statistics. www.socalcell.com.
what up Now 😛
what up Now 😛
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sunv420 said:
All I have to say about your "I have read nowhere that GSM is better or worse overall than CDMA". Educate yourself and check out this third party,un-bias website with tons of facts and statistics. www.socalcell.com.
what up Now 😛
Check out Consumer Reports and JD Power. What up now. 🙄
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Can you say More propaganda? That site is a joke!
Consumer Reports JD Powers.......Thats all you guys know. So big deal an ice fisherman can get a signal with Verizon in the middle of Lake Michican. The poor guy driving through Lincoln, Nebraska is paying for it!
I don't read CR or care about JD Powers...
Its about choice, flexibility,features, dozens of MODERN phones and price....none of which JD Powers or Consumer Reports can run up the Verizon flagpole.
Watch and learn....GSM is here to stay and will overtake analog based CDMA..not only here but worldwide.....watch
Consumer Reports JD Powers.......Thats all you guys know. So big deal an ice fisherman can get a signal with Verizon in the middle of Lake Michican. The poor guy driving through Lincoln, Nebraska is paying for it!
I don't read CR or care about JD Powers...
Its about choice, flexibility,features, dozens of MODERN phones and price....none of which JD Powers or Consumer Reports can run up the Verizon flagpole.
Watch and learn....GSM is here to stay and will overtake analog based CDMA..not only here but worldwide.....watch
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General Responses.
1. Yes, GSM is here to stay, in one form or another. It is the dominant worldwide technology and will likely remain that way for some time. It doesn't need to 'overtake' CDMA because it already has. That doesn't equate to it being the best technology or providing the best service.
2. CDMA is not analog based.
3. You may not care about what Consumer Reports and JD Powers say, but LOTS of other folks do. Plenty of 'average joes' get Consumer Reports and base their decisions on those articles, decisions being followed with MONEY. Lots of people and companies look at JD Powers - if it wasn't important to enough folks, JD would have called it quits. End result is Verizon gets great press/reputation, lots of people make de...
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1. Yes, GSM is here to stay, in one form or another. It is the dominant worldwide technology and will likely remain that way for some time. It doesn't need to 'overtake' CDMA because it already has. That doesn't equate to it being the best technology or providing the best service.
2. CDMA is not analog based.
3. You may not care about what Consumer Reports and JD Powers say, but LOTS of other folks do. Plenty of 'average joes' get Consumer Reports and base their decisions on those articles, decisions being followed with MONEY. Lots of people and companies look at JD Powers - if it wasn't important to enough folks, JD would have called it quits. End result is Verizon gets great press/reputation, lots of people make de...
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