Cost of phones to the agents
ok. VZW must be screwing the agents. I went to Walmart and they had phones at full freaking retail for less then I can purchase that phone from WOW. But yet VZW is saying that they are selling those phones to the agents at their cost. BULL How can Walmart sell a phone for 30 bucks less at FULL RETAIL then my cost?!?! Because this whole racket is set up by VZW to screw the agents. I say restraint of trade is coming forth...
If we have to get a phone to resell and have VZW honor the warranty and ensure the phone is on their dubious "approved" list then we must buy the phone from them. We pay what they say is their "cost". Then either VZW has a p!ss poor purchasing agent, or they are making killer profits off selling the phones to t...
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If we have to get a phone to resell and have VZW honor the warranty and ensure the phone is on their dubious "approved" list then we must buy the phone from them. We pay what they say is their "cost". Then either VZW has a p!ss poor purchasing agent, or they are making killer profits off selling the phones to t...
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A phone purchased at Best Buys is cheaper full retail too, must be a conspiracy. I’m not sure what is so difficult for you to understand. When you decided to become a verizon reseller you also agreed to the terms set by verizon at that time. Just because verizon is giving Wal-Mart a better deal doesn’t mean anything. That’s business 101
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ok the reason phones are cheaper if you pay full retail at bestbuy is becasue they charge the custoemr cost, no mark up. Most agents mark up their product 50bucks as does verizon. Walmart and bestbuy may only mark up 10 bucks. Another thing to consider if you are just talking price is vendors. Brightstar, arovoice, carry these phones and can be ordered much cheaper than verizon has them. These usually come in different packaging becasue they come from manufacturer to them to agent, verizon never swapps them into verizon boxes. The downfall of these other sources is that Verizon's mail in rebates are not eligible on these headsets. So we could carry a samsung 850 for the cost of 129 from aeorvoice and offer no rebate, or get the phone from ve...
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are you saying that if you just wanted to buy the phone w/out service that walmart sells the Sam 850 for $140? If so that's crazy!
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Not sure their current price have no real clue. I do know a bulk order of that model from brightstar has a cost of $139 per unit so they could sell it at $149 and be happy with a $10 profit. Us poor agents would have to sell 500+ phones a month to live on that profit margin just to keep our electric on. Walmart destroys communities, plain and simple.Your saving a buck is starving someones family. I refuse to shop their and pay a little more by going to target, kroger. If i need a high end item EX: furniture, electronics, Cell Phones, then go to a specialist, soemone who knows what they are doing and takes pride in their product, pay a little more but get it back in service. Buy a phone at walmart and save a little, but bring it into my store...
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Oh, I refuse to shop at walmart...
But, if walmart decides to sell a Samsung A850 for $150 full retail pricing, you can sure bet that I will send them a mass of customers who want a cheap phone to replace their damaged/lost phone, or for an uneligible upgrade. Sure they'll make $10 off of them, but the guy behind the counter will be wasting time selling them a phone for a $10 profit compared to dealing with a new activation which could yield a higher profit.
But, if walmart decides to sell a Samsung A850 for $150 full retail pricing, you can sure bet that I will send them a mass of customers who want a cheap phone to replace their damaged/lost phone, or for an uneligible upgrade. Sure they'll make $10 off of them, but the guy behind the counter will be wasting time selling them a phone for a $10 profit compared to dealing with a new activation which could yield a higher profit.
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Just goto walmart and buy your phones. If you can get them cheaper there, that is what I would do. They must be on verizon's approved list, as that is where wally world got them from.
This just backs up my theory on contracts, subsidized pricing on phones, yeah, I dont believe that for a minute.
This just backs up my theory on contracts, subsidized pricing on phones, yeah, I dont believe that for a minute.
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If he would go to Walmart and buy his phones he would have to activate them, and then to sell them again he would have to either pay the ETF or he would have to put a dummy serial number on the account and continue to pay the monthly cost of service access per line. Neither which make any type of financial sense.
About the contracts also, they DO go to subsidize phone pricing. Have you ever compared what a carrier charges at full retail with what the manufacturer charges? Not a huge difference, most of the time its between a 20 to 50 dollar profit for the cell carrier at full retail.
About the contracts also, they DO go to subsidize phone pricing. Have you ever compared what a carrier charges at full retail with what the manufacturer charges? Not a huge difference, most of the time its between a 20 to 50 dollar profit for the cell carrier at full retail.
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check out their packaging in comparison to yours.
they use what is 3rd party packaging. leave out some extra things like the FREE plastic clip on the v276 for example. its like they are buying the overstock and saving on the cost by not adding in the clip and welcome cd.
and if you notice the phones boxes are a bit different too. some of the v276 boxes don't even have vzw's branding on them they are powder blue small tiny boxes with a big @$$ M for motorola on them. so that tells me they are getting them from a 3rd party source or buying them directly from the manufacturer with the carrier's branding and having the carrier approve them for tech coverage.
check out their packaging in comparison to yours.
they use what is 3rd party packaging. leave out some extra things like the FREE plastic clip on the v276 for example. its like they are buying the overstock and saving on the cost by not adding in the clip and welcome cd.
and if you notice the phones boxes are a bit different too. some of the v276 boxes don't even have vzw's branding on them they are powder blue small tiny boxes with a big @$$ M for motorola on them. so that tells me they are getting them from a 3rd party source or buying them directly from the manufacturer with the carrier's branding and having the carrier approve them for tech coverage.
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I agree with the part about 3rd party packaging, but disagree on the part where you say they leave things out, like the FREE clip on the V276. Phones DO NOT come with the clip for FREE anymore. I have the V276 on my Family Share Plan and I bought it directly from VERIZON and the clip WAS NOT included.
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🤭 i failed to realize none of them came with the clip anymore 🤭
but it is still 3rd party packaging 😎
but it is still 3rd party packaging 😎
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check out their packaging in comparison to yours.
they use what is 3rd party packaging. leave out some extra things like the FREE plastic clip on the v276 for example. its like they are buying the overstock and saving on the cost by not adding in the clip and welcome cd.
and if you notice the phones boxes are a bit different too. some of the v276 boxes don't even have vzw's branding on them they are powder blue small tiny boxes with a big @$$ M for motorola on them. so that tells me they are getting them from a 3rd party source or buying them directly from the manufacturer with the carrier's branding and having the carrier approve them for tech coverage.
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mjh said:...sowhatsowhat10 said:
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check out their packaging in comparison to yours.
they use what is 3rd party packaging. leave out some extra things like the FREE plastic clip on the v276 for example. its like they are buying the overstock and saving on the cost by not adding in the clip and welcome cd.
and if you notice the phones boxes are a bit different too. some of the v276 boxes don't even have vzw's branding on them they are powder blue small tiny boxes with a big @$$ M for motorola on them. so that tells me they are getting them from a 3rd party source or buying them directly from the manufacturer with the carrier's branding and having the carrier approve them for tech coverage.
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Yeah, that is why we are supposed to have a purchasing agent so that we can buy phones from WOW ordering system. Even the brightpoint and cellstars can't sell us phones as cheap as Walmart can at full retail. It would be really cut and dry and just buy them from Walmart, but this creates two things. 1st, it would be supporting the business that is trying to put my store out of business. 2nd, VZW won't back the phone through easy channels. I must send the customer to the retail store for any warranty replacements.
Walmart is buying phones for VZW for PA and part of NY. Our "purchasing agent" through WOW is buying for agents all over the US. How can a hundred Walmarts get better pricing then a few thousand independant dealers? Sim...
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Walmart is buying phones for VZW for PA and part of NY. Our "purchasing agent" through WOW is buying for agents all over the US. How can a hundred Walmarts get better pricing then a few thousand independant dealers? Sim...
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I don't believe (although I could be wrong...I'm still digging for the info) that the phones sold by Wal-Mart are NOT purchased directly from VZW. I believe they're purchased from the manufacturers, and that they will NOT be covered by FRU (similar to RS). Wal-Mart is very persuasive with manufacturers to get the best prices possible (of course a year later they want to see even better prices, and this is why everything is made in China now). Not being able to FRU phones will be a HUGE hassle for Wal-Mart customers. Wal-Mart won't help them, and they'll have to deal directly with the manufacturers. There won't be a loaner phone, or an instant replacement...it'll be "Mail us your phone and in 6-8 weeks we'll send it back." Customers, how...
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ok. VZW must be screwing the agents. I went to Walmart and they had phones at full freaking retail for less then I can purchase that phone from WOW. But yet VZW is saying that they are selling those phones to the agents at their cost. BULL How can Walmart sell a phone for 30 bucks less at FULL RETAIL then my cost?!?! Because this whole racket is set up by VZW to screw the agents. I say restraint of trade is coming forth...
If we have to get a phone to resell and have VZW honor the warranty and ensure the phone is on their dubious "approved" list then we must buy the phone from them. We pay what they say is their "cost". Then either VZW has a p!ss poor purchasing agent, or they are making
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Yeah, you are right. I went to Walmart and right up in front at the cellular stand was a sign that basically said, "we will sell you, but we won't help you."
I will just push my service and the value of that. Sure, you will get idiots like ArmySF that doesn't care about anything but a buck, but you will get your fair share that appreciate the great lengths I will go to help them. I won't just said, "You signed to be a Verizon customer...go to Verizon." I will keep my attitude that they are MY customer....
I just needed a few days to vent. I am better now!
I will just push my service and the value of that. Sure, you will get idiots like ArmySF that doesn't care about anything but a buck, but you will get your fair share that appreciate the great lengths I will go to help them. I won't just said, "You signed to be a Verizon customer...go to Verizon." I will keep my attitude that they are MY customer....
I just needed a few days to vent. I am better now!
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Question for you - are you exclusive or exclusive + 1 for Verizon? That can make some difference in the WOW pricing. But I don't think there is any doubt that Verizon is making something on what they sell us phones for - I just don't know how much. I am sure that Walmart is buying their phones directly from the manufacturer - so hopefully they have not made an agreement with Verizon to do FRU's on them. The Walmart in my area hasn't added this yet - just exactly how cheap are they selling phones with & without service???????
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