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History of The Baby Bells + Politically charged reasoning for Fees on Bills.

DKVZW

Jan 14, 2006, 1:35 PM
In case anyone cares

Here is a link that somewhat outlines what happened.

http://www.teletruth.org/bellhistory.html »

And here is a concise explanation of some charges that you may see on your bill.

http://www.newnetworks.com/dirtyphonebill.htm »


Thanks.
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xIsamuTM

Jan 14, 2006, 5:10 PM
um... so what's the point?
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mekong77

Jan 14, 2006, 5:32 PM
Tell me about it. The website is called "TeleTruth," yet they are not being totally honest either.
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DKVZW

Jan 15, 2006, 12:39 AM
I have nothing to in common with New Networks, nor Teletruth. However they were started in 1983 and have been going since. They write _REAL_ bills to congress, federal trade commision, fcc.

This is an invitation for everyone to find out why they are paying %30 more than the plan they've signed up for. The explanation is always (IT's the FCC - NAY It's VZ asking the FCC to pay for its "hardships" in bying new switching equipment, and providing equal access to lower income sectors.)

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/policy/truthinbill.html »

This is a FCC policy issued that regulates how your bill is printed. (VZW/VZ)

I really like that someone is still collecting money for the "Spanish American War".

Quote from the FCC website now, if I...
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DKVZW

Jan 15, 2006, 9:09 PM
Point is you pay for a plan say 60/mo + another 30% (for what exactly?)

Alot of people say taxes, alot say fees. As the guy from teletruth found out from a survey of 1000 people (during some - send us your phone bill) campaign you're paying VERZION.

USF (Universal Services Fund) is the only thing thats valid between the (surcharges, charges, other surcharges) that are then TAXED in total by your local government (since they don't recognize those line items being taxes)

So in NYC you could be paying $8USD for Dialtone and the $14 USD in (Fees...)

Since these fees are to pay for "Corporate Hardship, in providing Equal Access Service (to under developed areas) and to run an ALL digital fiber network to ALL (low income/high income ...
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vzw_achiever

Jan 14, 2006, 7:37 PM
DKVZW said:
In case anyone cares

Here is a link that somewhat outlines what happened.

http://www.teletruth.org/bellhistory.html »

And here is a concise explanation of some charges that you may see on your bill.

http://www.newnetworks.com/dirtyphonebill.htm »


Thanks.

What the fu*k does anything have to do with Baby Bells! What the fu*k are you talking about?!
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DKVZW

Jan 15, 2006, 9:18 PM
Here is another Link.
(Spanish American War Tax of 189😎
http://news.com.com/Congress+proposes+tax+on+all+Net ... »

Only here it says its extended to VoIP and Internet.

(However it also extends to anyone who wishes to collect it.)
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vzw_achiever

Jan 15, 2006, 9:21 PM
This tax has NOTHING to do with cellphones. It's only on landlines. Please find a point for this thread soon!
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DKVZW

Jan 15, 2006, 9:38 PM
Okay here is a screenshot of the VZW Taxes page.

http://www.cableenable.com/images/vzw/cute.jpg »


1. Why is a Wireless Company charging you to cross-subsidize "hardships" a Land-Line carrier experiences in delivering UNIVERSAL ACCESS to (schools, low-income, etc...) that MAY NOT EVEN be your TOWNS LOCAL LANDLINE CARREIER?

2. What ....ing hardships?

That would be a clearly visible "Fed Universal Services Charge" in the list of "Charges We Set - as stated by VZW, they made them say that during the Truth in Billing Campaign, before it said "surcharges/other fees".

3. What is hiding in the Gross Reciepts

Surcharge? What is this? Truth in Billing did stipulate that it would be clearly explained, I find it very UNLCEAR.....
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vzw_achiever

Jan 16, 2006, 10:03 AM
Look, Troll,

As I said, the tax you are referring to (re: The Spanish American War) is NOT charged on cell phone bills. Your posts have NOTHING WHAT-SO-FUC*ING EVER to do with Verizon Wireless. These taxes and surcharges are mandated by the Federal Government, and state and local governments. If VZW wants to do business in any of those places, they're required to pay those taxes and surcharges, which they rightfully pass along to the customer. If you don't like it, write your Congressman, or go troll on a tax forum.

VZW DOES charge a .40 per line admin fee, but your window to bit*h about it with any effect ceased in October.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 11:08 AM
Did you not take a look at the screnshot I've posted?

Gross Receipts SurCharge? 5.72/mo
Fed. USF Charge? (No Federal in USF). 1.61/mo
Regulatory Charge? 0.05
Administrative Charge? 0.40

Then all these are TAXED by Local and State.

Mr. Verizon Achiever. Just because you don't like what I have to say, does not mean you get to label me a troll. Trolls cause disturbances. I am simply posting information.

A troll post would be "VZW S..ks and So do their Reps.." without any founding information.

Thats troll bait.

Thanks
-DK
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DKVZW

Jan 17, 2006, 11:54 AM
Dear VZW_Achiver Sir!


As I said, the tax you are referring to (re: The Spanish American War) is NOT charged on cell phone bills.


Feel like being proven WRONG?

http://www.ctia.org/news_media/press/body.cfm?record ... »

This link will take you to comments, from the Industry you're a part of. From the Chairman/President of the #1 Association in this industry.

With regards to the "Spanish America War Tax of 1898" - Ala Exise tax.

Dated October 24th - 2005

Now I in this situation would say, Yes I am wrong. (I did when FreedomREP found the booklet) - Let's see what you will say?

Oh Almost forgot, sadly but no-one has corrected me yet, its CTIA not CITA - Appologies to the reader.

Enjoy
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texaswireless

Jan 17, 2006, 11:58 AM
I corrected you on the CTIA / CITA thing. Ypu need to read the replies more carefully.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2006, 12:03 PM
DKVZW said:
Dear VZW_Achiver Sir!


As I said, the tax you are referring to (re: The Spanish American War) is NOT charged on cell phone bills.


Feel like being proven WRONG?

http://www.ctia.org/news_media/press/body.cfm?record ... »

This link will take you to comments, from the Industry you're a part of. From the Chairman/President of the #1 Association in this industry.

With regards to the "Spanish America War Tax of 1898" - Ala Exise tax.

Dated October 24th - 2005

Now I in this situation would say, Yes I am wrong. (I did when FreedomREP found the booklet) - Let's see what you will say?

Oh Almost forgot, sadly but no-one has corrected me yet, its CTIA not CITA - Appolog
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2006, 12:03 PM
Digital Pimp said:
DKVZW said:
Dear VZW_Achiver Sir!


As I said, the tax you are referring to (re: The Spanish American War) is NOT charged on cell phone bills.


Feel like being proven WRONG?

http://www.ctia.org/news_media/press/body.cfm?record ... »

This link will take you to comments, from the Industry you're a part of. From the Chairman/President of the #1 Association in this industry.

With regards to the "Spanish America War Tax of 1898" - Ala Exise tax.

Dated October 24th - 2005

Now I in this situation would say, Yes I am wrong. (I did when FreedomREP found the booklet) - Let's see what you will say?

Oh Almost forgot, sadly but no-one has correc
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DKVZW

Jan 17, 2006, 12:07 PM
I was not, but Mr. Somthing Tough decided to mention me again, whence I was gone.
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Digital Pimp

Jan 17, 2006, 12:09 PM
DKVZW said:
I was not, but Mr. Somthing Tough decided to mention me again, whence I was gone.


What do you care? Didn't you type that you didn't care what people on here said about you and you also didn't care if you got banned?Stand by what you say bro. Otherwise everyone will continue to think you are full of it. 😳
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DKVZW

Jan 17, 2006, 12:14 PM

What do you care? Didn't you type that you didn't care what people on here said about you and you also didn't care if you got banned?Stand by what you say bro. Otherwise everyone will continue to think you are full of it.

You don't understand....... you won't understand.
I don't want to speak about this in the forum.

I am very firm on the rules I set for myself. But I am also trying to prevent certain activity on behalf of Mr. Something Tough. That Activity does not include telling me to go .... myself. Read his reply to me carefuly, think for a momemnt. Not about him slamming me, but about how he undermined himself in that post.

Think about it agian and again. Then you'll realize why I "manifested".
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DKVZW

Jan 15, 2006, 10:09 PM
There is two more articles you should read.

(Hear us now.ORG)
http://www.hearusnow.org/wireless/8/ »

"For example, the term "regulatory assessment fee" is used by some cell phone companies to recover expenses, such as the cost of lawyers and lobbyists and property taxes, which are normally included in the price of service as a normal business expense. Wireless phone companies oppose the labeling rule."

(FCC)
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/wirelessphonebi ... »

Adoption of Truth in Billing to Cellular companies. (That were VERY OPPSED TO IT!)

Now can someone tell me what is a

Gross Reciepts Surcharge?
Administrative Surcharge?
Regulatory Charge?
Fed Universal Service Charge?

On your/my wireless bill?

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kimlee_star

Jan 17, 2006, 6:56 PM
When i signed my cell phone contract i knew that there was taxes ....and surcharges...besides govenment..i knew that vzw has the regulatory charge..gross receipt charges..etc..however...I still want to have a cell phone service...If you can't afford it...don't sign. Go prepay!!! 😎
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