Is it possible?
I have been going to different forums in the last few months.
But before I get into that. I'm a vrz customer with 8 months left on my contract.
I'm been hearing a lot that GSM is the way of the future, and GSM will beocme WCDMA or WCDMA2000 in the coming years.
Is it true that CDMA has only maybe a few years before it becomes obsolete? And if CDMA does or will "fall to the way side", why resign with a CDMA carrier?
Though I'm with Vrz, my phone is a LG VX-6000, with NO analog back up. The Vrn analog towers and coverage do not apply to me. Which it seems to me that Vrz coverage maps are not telling the WHOLE TRUTH!
I'm not here to start a fight, but if the coverage maps show analog towers as part of their "foot print" m...
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But before I get into that. I'm a vrz customer with 8 months left on my contract.
I'm been hearing a lot that GSM is the way of the future, and GSM will beocme WCDMA or WCDMA2000 in the coming years.
Is it true that CDMA has only maybe a few years before it becomes obsolete? And if CDMA does or will "fall to the way side", why resign with a CDMA carrier?
Though I'm with Vrz, my phone is a LG VX-6000, with NO analog back up. The Vrn analog towers and coverage do not apply to me. Which it seems to me that Vrz coverage maps are not telling the WHOLE TRUTH!
I'm not here to start a fight, but if the coverage maps show analog towers as part of their "foot print" m...
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gsm is already a 10 year or so old technology.cdma is the newest and best at this time. as for gsm going to wcdma that will take them a few years to get the money to get fully updated.but wcdma from what i see is about only what cdma is know.but verizon and sprint has more that they can add that when it gets done,wcdma will not be able to keep up unless they change system over to cdma.gsm has cool phones but they are worthless if you cant get them to work. have used cingular and att in ohio,and both are almost worthless to use when you need them to work.so at least around here verizon is the way to go.maybe some where down the line if cingular/att was to add a bunch of towers and got areas covered more they might be useful.but right know bot...
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First of all there is too much reading in this thread already...VZW has a ton of money to spend on the network...the $4billion is no lie...and will probably go up from there..lol they put out more than what some companies take in...hmm, did any other "major" wireless carrier make a profit for 2003?..hmmm... 😎
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TakeNoPrisoners said:...
I have been going to different forums in the last few months.
But before I get into that. I'm a vrz customer with 8 months left on my contract.
I'm been hearing a lot that GSM is the way of the future, and GSM will beocme WCDMA or WCDMA2000 in the coming years.
Is it true that CDMA has only maybe a few years before it becomes obsolete? And if CDMA does or will "fall to the way side", why resign with a CDMA carrier?
Though I'm with Vrz, my phone is a LG VX-6000, with NO analog back up. The Vrn analog towers and coverage do not apply to me. Which it seems to me that Vrz coverage maps are not telling the WHOLE TRUTH!
I'm not here to start a fight, but if the coverage maps show ana
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No it isn't possible. It's not that we don't want to activate these older model phones, the fact is, we can't.
-Verizon Wireless Sales
-Verizon Wireless Sales
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I see there a lot of people who know what is going in the cell world!. Thank you once again for all your responses and keeping it civil.
By the way though my VX LG6000 does not have analog back up, it never dropped a call and it takes excellent pictures! And everyone I speak to (mostly long distance say the clarity is just as good as a landline phone.
I can hang with Vrz for the rest of my contract and maybe longer.
By the way though my VX LG6000 does not have analog back up, it never dropped a call and it takes excellent pictures! And everyone I speak to (mostly long distance say the clarity is just as good as a landline phone.
I can hang with Vrz for the rest of my contract and maybe longer.
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Hrmm..
About 2 months back, I had one of the old fabled StarTac phones activated for my father-in-law. No GPS.
Main thing is, if the Verizon store's nearby, it's probably not the worst thing to collect an old VZW-service phone and at least see if they'll activate it.
About 2 months back, I had one of the old fabled StarTac phones activated for my father-in-law. No GPS.
Main thing is, if the Verizon store's nearby, it's probably not the worst thing to collect an old VZW-service phone and at least see if they'll activate it.
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regarding the contract extensions, and upgrade policies, you are all correct, except for a few things....
with our 'worry free guarantee' you may change your calling plan without having to re-sign a contract, but like a few of you have noted, your contract will be extended if you change your calling plan due to a new promotion...
as far as trying to activate an older phone.. trust me, it won't work- i cant do it, customer service cant do it... the reason you were able to activate a startac a few months back is because the FCC passed the 'blacklist for non-GPS phones' probably just after you were able to re-activate the non-GPS startac...
so in conclusion, you beat the deadline..
-Verizon Wireless Sales
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with our 'worry free guarantee' you may change your calling plan without having to re-sign a contract, but like a few of you have noted, your contract will be extended if you change your calling plan due to a new promotion...
as far as trying to activate an older phone.. trust me, it won't work- i cant do it, customer service cant do it... the reason you were able to activate a startac a few months back is because the FCC passed the 'blacklist for non-GPS phones' probably just after you were able to re-activate the non-GPS startac...
so in conclusion, you beat the deadline..
-Verizon Wireless Sales
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So What you guys are saying is any phone about 4 years old (like the Audiovox CDM-9000)is no longer allowed to be activated because of no GPS Capability? One Thing I discovered is all this was most counties in the country do not have the ability to interrogate GPS Signals from GPS Capable Phones. I made a 911 call on the Audiovox CDM-9500 with GPS Capability and the 911 Operator asked me for my location? I asked "You don't know", and she responded "NO". So if the Government isn't ready for GPS, why should Verizon or anyone else for that matter refuse to activate older phones?
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Here is the Michigan/Ohio market you CAN use activate or use a non GPS capable phone. Verizon just can not sell a phone that is non GPS capable as of December 31, 2003.
So what does this mean? If you have a phone at home that you used before, and it is compatible to Verizon System, then yes, you can use it. But be prepared to have to sign a form that states that you understand that Verizon Wireless and its employees, Agents, etc accountable if run into a situation with that phone that is not GPS compatible, and that you previously had the phone, and Verizon Wirelss or its agents sold it to you.
So what does this mean? If you have a phone at home that you used before, and it is compatible to Verizon System, then yes, you can use it. But be prepared to have to sign a form that states that you understand that Verizon Wireless and its employees, Agents, etc accountable if run into a situation with that phone that is not GPS compatible, and that you previously had the phone, and Verizon Wirelss or its agents sold it to you.
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verizonguyinohio said:
Here is the Michigan/Ohio market you CAN use activate or use a non GPS capable phone. Verizon just can not sell a phone that is non GPS capable as of December 31, 2003.
So what does this mean? If you have a phone at home that you used before, and it is compatible to Verizon System, then yes, you can use it. But be prepared to have to sign a form that states that you understand that Verizon Wireless and its employees, Agents, etc accountable if run into a situation with that phone that is not GPS compatible, and that you previously had the phone, and Verizon Wirelss or its agents sold it to you.
It must be different from coast to coast then because on the west coast, our sof...
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You can do it in the South Region also, using eROES. I had heard that the Radio Cracks were forbidding their people from activating non-E911 equipment in their stores, even with the signed waiver. This might be a district-by-district thing, however. Indirect agents can still do it, but there is little incentive to do so.
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It can be done, just no non GPS phones may be sold. If a customer wants to activate an older phone that they own we will do it.
This is on Pacific E*ROES
This is on Pacific E*ROES
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SPCSVZWJeff said:
It can be done, just no non GPS phones may be sold. If a customer wants to activate an older phone that they own we will do it.
This is on Pacific E*ROES
Hmmm. On behalf of all of the corporate retail stores in Southern Cali, I am positive that non of the corporate stores in the Southern California region can re-activate non-GPS phones. We use Vision, not E*ROES. Maybe that is the determining factor.
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The coverage maps don't "lie" it is just too much information for the average consumer to differentiate between Verizon's native coverage and markets covered by other carriers. The point is that you can make a call and not be charged roaming in the "footprint" Every carrier has this issue because no carrier owns a license in 100% of the markets. Analog will disappear in either 2005 or 2006 when the FCC allows the analog networks to be terminated. Actually all of VZW's towers in major markets are already digital, the money has been spent and you get digital service in places like Florence, Oregon and Kellogg, Idaho neither are major markets. There are places in the plains states and the rocky mountains states where VZW has only analog coverag...
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SPCSVZWJeff said:...
While WCDMA theoretically is more powerful than CDMA2000 in its current form it has been a real problem for carriers who have implemented it. It is less efficient and at this time cannot be made to work on the traditional cellular frequencies, it can only work on PCS frequencies. CDMA 2000 which is what VZW uses is current and evolving. It will effectively rival WCDMA if anyone can make WCDMA work properly. No US carrier is going to have WCDMA rolled out nationwide anytime soon. For Cingular to try will bankrupt Bellsouth and SBC. Their stock has taken a huge drop since the buyout was announced.
Ericsson should have listened to Qualcomm and rolled out a finished product instead of a network with more b
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TakeNoPrisoners said:
I have been going to different forums in the last few months.
But before I get into that. I'm a vrz customer with 8 months left on my contract.
I'm been hearing a lot that GSM is the way of the future, and GSM will beocme WCDMA or WCDMA2000 in the coming years.
Is it true that CDMA has only maybe a few years before it becomes obsolete? And if CDMA does or will "fall to the way side", why resign with a CDMA carrier?
GSM is not the "way of the future", neither is WCDMA (WCDMA2000 is a confused term. The two "technologies of the future" are WCDMA and CDMA2000)
WCDMA and CDMA2000 are, more or less, equivelent, with a few paramaters here and there different. Different...
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