KenBMay 13, 2004, 3:14 PM
Anyone notice that recent fullpage adds by Verizon now only include the monthly price of 39.95 but no reference to the minutes.
Any reason? Has there been a change ? I don't see one on the website. Perhaps a change is coming or they would rather explain in person why the price exceeds the competition.
Don't get me wrong, I've been with VZW for 11 years and wouldn't change carriers
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KenB said:
Anyone notice that recent fullpage adds by Verizon now only include the monthly price of 39.95 but no reference to the minutes.
Any reason? Has there been a change ? I don't see one on the website. Perhaps a change is coming or they would rather explain in person why the price exceeds the competition.
Don't get me wrong, I've been with VZW for 11 years and wouldn't change carriers
Its more than likely due to the In Network they're pushing now, any plan $39.99/mo and higher has it included
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the 39.99 plan is most likely the 400 min National Plan...
verizon charges more than everyone else because their coverage and customer service is a lot better than any other carrier. having come from sprint (who has cheaper plans and cooler phones), i can wholeheartedly say that i am much happier paying a little more in order to get better coverage and service.
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Oh please! Compare apples to apples and look at plans that include analog AND digital in one plan like America's Choice does, and Cingular is neck and neck with you guys. Check out GAIT Nation to get an idea of what their national network looks like when analog is included.
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Oh really? Would you rather have anolog service or digital service...hmmm let me think about that one. The reality is that VZW has the best network in the country and they are spending more money on their network rather than trying to spend their money on fixing broken down companies like AT&T. 😉
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Just goes to show you have no idea what you have, bogota. Verizon's main saving grace is their analog roaming. That's the "network advantage" they put in all their advertising.
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Dude, GAIT technology can't hold a call when switching from GSM to TDMA or to Analog. Just what I wanted, for my call to drop. It is just one more way that Cingular and ATTWS try to compensate for the fact that they screwed up and did not go directly to CDMA. It will cost you when you finally do install a 3G network. Until all customers are off GSM and TDMA and GSM you will be forced to split your bandwidth three ways. Then you will see the folly of your 3G path. We'll cut T-Mo some slack because when they started out there was no CDMA and GSM was the best technology available.
Is it just me or are Cingular reps marketing through the Verizon forums in conjunction with the pathetic attack ads on tv?
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Gee Jeff, I use GAIT...have for some time. Never had a problem with the phenomenon you describe. I'm in New England, and travel this area frequently. Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts...never dropped once ona technology switch. Strange. Have a Sony Ericsson T62U...widely regarded as a cr@p phone. Not an issue. Now here's my question: If CDMA is so great, why not eliminate analog from YOUR plans? GAIT is an option for our users, but not the only option. Analog won't support all the features CDMA provides, so a customer on you plans has areas where they are paying for things they may not be able to use. Doesn't make sense to me.
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phonepimp3376 said:
Gee Jeff, I use GAIT...have for some time. Never had a problem with the phenomenon you describe. I'm in New England, and travel this area frequently. Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts...never dropped once ona technology switch. Strange. Have a Sony Ericsson T62U...widely regarded as a cr@p phone. Not an issue. Now here's my question: If CDMA is so great, why not eliminate analog from YOUR plans? GAIT is an option for our users, but not the only option. Analog won't support all the features CDMA provides, so a customer on you plans has areas where they are paying for things they may not be able to use. Doesn't make sense to me.
when is the last time you looked at a map or VZW...
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Nope... VZW's current 3 coverage maps for America's Choice. You know the ones representing where you roam off net and pay extra, your "home" coverage and the areas where M2M will work? And let's not forget, as good as everyone seems to think this plan is, it is NOT a true nationwide plan. See the evaluation of America's Choice at www.currentanalysis.com
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dakzMay 16, 2004, 12:25 PM
>>And let's not forget, as good as everyone seems to think this plan is, it is NOT a true nationwide plan.
Correct, it is not a "true" nationwide plan, it is a networkwide plan. The true nationwide plan that is priced comparable to Cingular's Nationwide plan with no roaming is the National Single Rate plan. No roaming and nearly the same pricing structure.
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It was an ATTWS sales rep who told me about the call drop during technology switches. It was later explained on Phonescoop. As far as eliminating analog that would depend on Alltel, US Cellular and some of the other roaming partners of Verizon. Verizon has Excellent CDMA coverage in their markets and still has analog just like Cingular still does, by FCC mandate. The same thing can happen when roaming, the roaming partner does'nt always pass through all digital features. There are no populated areas that I know of that are analog without CDMA coverage. In the Northeast I understand Verizon recently acquired some markets that are currently TDMA so yes those areas are still analog. (althogh caller ID, message waiting indicator and other digita...
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Agree with you on the optimism of coverage maps, Jeff. As for the guarantee of coverage, that's pretty standard in the industry. I must commend you, by the way. No matter how we may differ, you present your case professionally and without resorting to anger and namecalling. You are truly a credit to your carrier. As for who has the "answer" in US Wireless, I guess that will bear out in the end... there's plenty of room for us all.
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phonepimp3376 said:
there's plenty of room for us all.
are you upper management in cingular? i doubt it. so when you say us, it sounds as if you have some vested interest in cingular. i dount that, so quit defending it like you are taking it personally. its a phone company, quit being a fanboy.
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Too funny, joshua! As a matter of fact, I DO have a say in what Cingular does. All of our reps do. Cingular realizes that we see what they don't, so they are inclined to listen to us. Do I have a vested interest in Cingular? You're darn right I do... if I don't succeed, it hurts the company. If the company doesn't succeed, it hurts me. So it only makes sense for me to try to find a win-win-win solution... the customer wins, the company wins, and I win. If you saw what you do as more than just a job, perhaps you would understand that EVERY rep has a vested interest in their carrier... and in their customer as well. The best reps aren't salespeople...they are satisfied customers. And the best reps the carrier has isn't the salespeople... its t...
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The full page ads in the Chicago area papers for the $39.95 monthly plan is explained below as a family share plan as follows: For a six month period, as many as 5 phones may share 1000 Local area minutes for $39.95. The fine print below explains that after 6 months, the plan costs $39.95 per month for the first phone, and $20 for each additional phone. For the first six months, it's a good deal, assuming no one plans to use the phone outside of Illinois.
Again--this plan is for 1000 minutes in the a local plan (Illinois and NW Indiana). I don't know if this is the same as what you are seeing in other parts of the country, but that's what's in the full-page ads in Chicago newspapers.
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🙄 This rate plan seems to be really appealing. Yeah, you are going to pay only $39.95 for 6 months, but come on. Only 1000 anytime minutes, with no nights and weekends, to share between 5 lines. That really sucks. They are going to end up paying more in overage charges. Then it's will bump from $39.95 to $119.95. Hahaha. T-Mobile has a plan with 1600 anytime minutes, unlimited nights weekends and mobile to mobile, with free Long Distance and Roaming for only $99.99. Yes that fee covers the first 2 lines and it is $10.00 for each additional line. And yes, after all it will be $10.00 more a month. However you will get more for less.
Verizon's plans suck
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dakzMay 14, 2004, 12:08 PM
>>>T-Mobile has a plan with 1600 anytime minutes, unlimited nights weekends and mobile to mobile, with free Long Distance and Roaming for only $99.99. Yes that fee covers the first 2 lines and it is $10.00 for each additional line. And yes, after all it will be $10.00 more a month. However you will get more for less. Verizon's plans suck
Verizon Wireless America's Choice Family Share $99.99 2000 Anytime Minutes, Unlimited Nights and Weekends, Free In-Net(mobile to mobile), with National Long Distance...$20 per share line. Effective 5/9/04. Yeah, Verizon plans suck. Riiiiiiight. Try again.
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Free roaming only on other 1900MHz GSM.
If the place you want to make a call (or need to for emergency) has only CDMA or analog you can't. T-Mo has done a good job where they have coverage. If forced to choose between them and the other GSM companies they would get my vote, but their low prices come at a cost. That cost is limited coverage and much network noise. High prices don't necessarily mean better service but they make better service possible financially
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