Will iTunes Phones come to VZW?
I did a quick search for 'iTunes" on this forum and didn't see much discussion so I thought I'd ask.
Is there any change we'll see an iTunes phone come to Verizon? From my understanding Apple's contract with motorola is not exclusive, I'm not sure what kind of arrangement they have with Cingular.
I'm eligible for my new every two promotion next summer and am hoping VZW may have some new phones that include the iTunes software by then.
-Katie
Is there any change we'll see an iTunes phone come to Verizon? From my understanding Apple's contract with motorola is not exclusive, I'm not sure what kind of arrangement they have with Cingular.
I'm eligible for my new every two promotion next summer and am hoping VZW may have some new phones that include the iTunes software by then.
-Katie
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probobly not. they are roling out their own music service next year, and wouldn't want to promote the competition.
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Wouldn't you rather have an mp3 capable phone instead of an itunes phone anyways? I guess if you already subscribed to itunes it would be cool. I am just more into buying mp3's or ripping cd's and not really into that whole ten dollar a month subscription thing so i can get music onto only devices that are itunes compatable. I already own a lot of cd's so all i do is convert them to mp3 and load them right onto my 8100, screw paying itunes ten bucks a month when you can not even burn cd's from their music, you can only listen on their radio on your pc or a portable device compatable with them. Don't know maybe i am missing something but it seems stupid to me and a mp3 compatable device just seems like a better value and gives you more option...
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you can import all your Mp3's into iTunes (without spending a dime) and load them to an iTunes capable device.
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You can rip all of your CDs and import all of you MP3s into iTunes, you can burn as many CDs with iTunes music as you like, and it is not a $10 per month subscription.
You're missing more than just something, you're missing a lot.
You're missing more than just something, you're missing a lot.
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but i can do all of that without itunes. i don't see the plus of itunes. i would rather just have an mp3 capable phone (regardless of which carrier it's with)
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I wasn't talking of the iTunes software on phones, I was referring to the actual iTunes program for computers, and so was the person I was responding to.
Therefore, your post is off base.
Therefore, your post is off base.
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I was talking about both phone and computer. 2 can rip/burn as much as I want without itunes
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Unless it recently changed, iTunes does not have any subscription services or options. It is a free service unless you buy tunes from their music store.
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Yeah i know, i got it confused, i recently went through a bunch of them and got my facts jumbled. Napster has a subscription service and if you have a napster player you can put unlimited music on it for like 15 bucks or for a ten dollar subsrciption fee you get discounts of downloads and access to unlimited napster radio or some crap like that. Not sure they all sorta suck in my opinion. I miss the days when napster was free☹️ I just don't see any advantage the itunes phone has over an mp3 capable phone, especially for the price, i was trying understand what makes that phone so great? seems like nothing special.
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I do agree on that. Only 100 songs and a very inconvenient place for the card.
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So i could have the itunes phone sign up for itunes for and download all the songs I want(from itunes not my own cd's) for free and not have to pay anything to put actual itunes songs onto an itunes device?? So let's just say i have no clue what an mp3 is and i am a new cingular customer, i can buy this phone take it hope and put 100 songs into from itunes without paying a nickel? If that is the case then cool, otherwise that is not how i understood it when i was downloading mp3 off of their.
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No, downloading from iTunes is of course, not free. However you made a point of it being subscription based and it is not. The software is free to use, the songs are $.99 per download.
If you really wanted to, you could rip your CDs, import your MP3s, and put them onto the iTunes phone. It's that simple.
If you really wanted to, you could rip your CDs, import your MP3s, and put them onto the iTunes phone. It's that simple.
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RUFF1415 said:
You can rip all of your CDs and import all of you MP3s into iTunes, you can burn as many CDs with iTunes music as you like, and it is not a $10 per month subscription.
You're missing more than just something, you're missing a lot.
oops i got the 10 dollar a moth thing mixed up with napster to go, i got a little confused since i have screwed around with all of them. I do have a question though, You said burn as many cd's as you like with itunes music( just seeing if you missed something because i thought it was a .99 a song to be able to burn them? So my question is do you have to buy songs from itunes to put them in the phone? If so what is the big deal about having an itunes phone? I can...
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to download a song off of itunes its $0.99, and you can burn that song onto a cd using itunes as many times as you want, but you don't necessarily have to use itunes to download songs, you can use any free peer to peer network or rip them from cds
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that was my understanding, so in other words the itunes phone has no real edge over a normal mp3 capable phone, correct? it only limits you to use itunes software. I am assuming you still have to pay the .99 to zap their songs into you itunes phone. So i guess that is why i don't understand the hipe.
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You're missing the iTunes aspect of the phone. It's more of "I have an iPod on my phone" kind of deal than the actual iTunes downloader. The difference in this phone from other MP3 player capable phones is that the UI is exactly like that of an iPod. To me, it would have made more sense if they had called it the iPod Phone.
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yeahright said:
I am assuming you still have to pay the .99 to zap their songs into you itunes phone. So i guess that is why i don't understand the hipe.
not to transfer to the phone, you only pay so the download FROM apple. once it's downloaded,transferring to the phone in no cost. OR you can import your existing MP3's that you got from wherever (self-ripped, downloaded, etc.) into the iTunes software, and then load THOSE to your phone as well. So it's not limiting anything, it is just giving people the familiar iPod interface on their phone.
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But not until late 2007 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
VZW always late on cool phones, but wait! "They work!" This is all they can say when custs complain about their phones.
"Why would you want a cool phone that won't work"? (wrong! GSM phones work!)
Just switch to a better carrier when your contract is up. By summer of next Cingular network integration will be pretty much complete. Give themn a shot! 😉
VZW always late on cool phones, but wait! "They work!" This is all they can say when custs complain about their phones.
"Why would you want a cool phone that won't work"? (wrong! GSM phones work!)
Just switch to a better carrier when your contract is up. By summer of next Cingular network integration will be pretty much complete. Give themn a shot! 😉
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They obviously aren't interested in cingular if they asked if vzw is getting an itunes phone. By the way, when is cingular getting the new broadband treo? What makes cingular a better carrier?
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turbodeuce said:
They obviously aren't interested in cingular if they asked if vzw is getting an itunes phone. By the way, when is cingular getting the new broadband treo? What makes cingular a better carrier?
I dunno... the bad CS makes you a tougher person who can withstand adversity, and the dropped calls make every use of the SEND button into a wacky, entertaining game of chance? 🙂
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Because we all know that Cingular drops calls left and right everywhere we go.
That's pretty tasteless, Jake.
That's pretty tasteless, Jake.
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I admit, it was a cheap shot (though Anxio did take the first one). Still, I'll take my penalty like a man.
*tweet* Peronsal foul! Excessive roughing of a carrier by number 83. Fifteen yards!
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*tweet* Peronsal foul! Excessive roughing of a carrier by number 83. Fifteen yards!
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RUFF1415 said:
Because we all know that Cingular drops calls left and right everywhere we go.
That's pretty tasteless, Jake.
Did you expect anything less of him?
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RUFF1415 said:
I actually didn't expect it from him at all.
Oh really? Dang RUFF, I guess you have forgotten that nearly everytime he opens his mouth concerning Cingular, it's a tastless, trashy comment. Yes, him.
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I've seen some negatives come out of his mouth concerning Cingular, but usually nothing too ridiculous or untrue. Making bad jokes suggesting that they always drop calls is a pretty tasteless comment, but it's the first time I've seen it come out of Jake's mouth. He's usually pretty truthful and fair, however you may perceive his remarks.
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RUFF1415 said:
I've seen some negatives come out of his mouth concerning Cingular, but usually nothing too ridiculous or untrue. Making bad jokes suggesting that they always drop calls is a pretty tasteless comment, but it's the first time I've seen it come out of Jake's mouth. He's usually pretty truthful and fair, however you may perceive his remarks.
Thank you, Ruff. 🙂
I do admit that sometimes I tire of the Cingy trolls and zealots that always seem to find their way to the Verizon board (lord knows why they do... insecurity?) and sometimes I respond in kind (hence the cheap shot); but the behavior of those folks should not make me forget that there ARE definitely classy, thoughtful Cingy sup...
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Can someone explain to me the draw of an ITunes phone? I have a gig of mp3s and movies on my 8100 and I thought the rokr can only do 256mb.
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turbodeuce said:
Can someone explain to me the draw of an ITunes phone? I have a gig of mp3s and movies on my 8100 and I thought the rokr can only do 256mb.
Well, your 8100 is crippled (bluetooth). That's just the start.... 🙄
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Anxiovert said:turbodeuce said:
Can someone explain to me the draw of an ITunes phone? I have a gig of mp3s and movies on my 8100 and I thought the rokr can only do 256mb.
Well, your 8100 is crippled (bluetooth). That's just the start.... 🙄
What does the crippled bluetooth have to do with it? I believe the ROKR transfers music via a cable, not bluetooth.
In fact, it even says in the Phonescoop description of the phone "synchronizing iTunes via Bluetooth not supported":
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=777 »
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Thanks for explaining the draw to an itunes phone, you really cleared that up for me. and i can transfer files fine with my 8100 using a program called bitpim, so how am i crippled? I hope you realize that most cell phone users could care less about obex and most of the ones that do are computer savvy enough to get past it
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Sure, let's all spend AN HOUR to load up the ROKR with music. I thought USB 1.1 was illegal 😁
Now, another very constructive detail, let's say you settled for 100 songs on 512mb, but you have 2 cards! I wonder who was a person who put memory card behind the battery?
No EDGE?
Wanna piece of advise? Throw this useless piece of plastic out and get yourself iPod Shuffle. At least it's not going to drop phone calls 😉
Now, another very constructive detail, let's say you settled for 100 songs on 512mb, but you have 2 cards! I wonder who was a person who put memory card behind the battery?
No EDGE?
Wanna piece of advise? Throw this useless piece of plastic out and get yourself iPod Shuffle. At least it's not going to drop phone calls 😉
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Will an iTunes phone come to VZW? Probably. I would assume that Apple's goal would be to eventually have every cellphone possible have the ability to connect to Apple's music store and d-load tunes wirelessly, so Apple can charge money for 'em.
The current ROKR-style implementation really doesn't bring Apple much additional revenue, since the songs are imported from the PC, not the network. All Apple gets is a small fee from Motorola for them using the iTunes client, probably.
So Apple would probably want to team with as many carriers as possible to start up music stores that cell users can access wirelessly. I think Cingy has already made overtures towards Apple on that front. Whether they could pay Apple enough money to make that an...
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The current ROKR-style implementation really doesn't bring Apple much additional revenue, since the songs are imported from the PC, not the network. All Apple gets is a small fee from Motorola for them using the iTunes client, probably.
So Apple would probably want to team with as many carriers as possible to start up music stores that cell users can access wirelessly. I think Cingy has already made overtures towards Apple on that front. Whether they could pay Apple enough money to make that an...
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Hmmm,
They already ignore 90% of the computer market and do just fine.
Steve Jobs has never been interested in making what everyone wants. He makes unique products and does a pretty good job of it. 10% market share does him just fine.
They already ignore 90% of the computer market and do just fine.
Steve Jobs has never been interested in making what everyone wants. He makes unique products and does a pretty good job of it. 10% market share does him just fine.
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yeah, Steve Jobs sure hasn't been interested in market share(making what everyone wants)...
I could've sworn we were just talking about iTunes which holds the vast majority of the market (80%?)
How did he achieve that? by making iTunes and the iPod compatible with PCs--because thats what everyone wanted, and sales numbers come from PC users not Apple users(your 10% market share).
Isn't iTunes compatible with WMA now? sounds like they're trying to gain market share to me.
I could've sworn we were just talking about iTunes which holds the vast majority of the market (80%?)
How did he achieve that? by making iTunes and the iPod compatible with PCs--because thats what everyone wanted, and sales numbers come from PC users not Apple users(your 10% market share).
Isn't iTunes compatible with WMA now? sounds like they're trying to gain market share to me.
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How much do they make per download? Pennies? The big winner (wiener?) is the artists. The distribution methods of iTunes is such that many users are willing to pay whereas once they were willing to pirate.
He has a market share of downloads but makes little to no margin on that share.
Doesn't matter what you have 80% of the market if you don't make very much on said downloads. The carriers will get the incremental cost of the difference between PC based and Wireless downloads.
I think the big key here is licensing, and from what I know iTunes is only licensed to Motorola at this time.
He has a market share of downloads but makes little to no margin on that share.
Doesn't matter what you have 80% of the market if you don't make very much on said downloads. The carriers will get the incremental cost of the difference between PC based and Wireless downloads.
I think the big key here is licensing, and from what I know iTunes is only licensed to Motorola at this time.
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texaswireless said:
Hmmm,
They already ignore 90% of the computer market and do just fine.
'Ignore' would be a bad choice of words. Also isn't really true anymore... have you seen the Mac Mini? A Mac for $499. Jobs is trying very hard to sell to the broader market.
Also look at something like the iPod, which works on both Macs and PCs. If Jobs had really wanted to make niche products, the iPod would've been Mac-only.
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BetterThanJake said:
'Ignore' would be a bad choice of words. Also isn't really true anymore... have you seen the Mac Mini? A Mac for $499. Jobs is trying very hard to sell to the broader market.
Also look at something like the iPod, which works on both Macs and PCs. If Jobs had really wanted to make niche products, the iPod would've been Mac-only.
That's exactly what I was getting at. I'm not concerned with how much he's making per download. We were talking about "market share", and if he's not interested in market share then he's got no use for the PC world. But, obviously that's not true.
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I don't think apple will overload the market with dozens of iTunes phone, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a CDMA phone with it in time. As you mentioned, Apple isn't making much off the ROKR, and I doubt they'd want to compete with themselves in the iPod market. The ROKR only has 512 mb, with intentionally disabled bluetooth music playback or upload. I think that alone screams that there's a bluetooth iPod on the way, which they still want to be "the first of it's kind".
The biggest thing against Verizon getting the ROKR will be Verizon itself. Carriers are creating and promoting their own music download services, which would make them more money. Using iTunes to upload songs obviously wont make a carrier any money. I'm a diehard...
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The biggest thing against Verizon getting the ROKR will be Verizon itself. Carriers are creating and promoting their own music download services, which would make them more money. Using iTunes to upload songs obviously wont make a carrier any money. I'm a diehard...
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